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Ubuntu Linux 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Beta Now Available For Desktop, Cloud and Server Versions (betanews.com)

Posted by msmash on from the weekend-projects dept.

Roughly three weeks ahead of the scheduled release of Ubuntu Linux 18.10 "Cosmic Cuttlefish", the latest major update for the popular Linux distro, beta of all of its flavors -- desktop, cloud and server -- is now available for download. From a report: Codenamed 'Cosmic Cuttlefish,' 18.10 continues Ubuntu's proud tradition of integrating the latest and greatest open source technologies into a high-quality, easy-to-use Linux distribution. The team has been hard at work through this cycle, introducing new features and fixing bugs," says Adam Conrad, Software Engineer, Canonical. Conrad further says, "This beta release includes images from not only the Ubuntu Desktop, Server, and Cloud products, but also the Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Budgie, UbuntuKylin, Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu Studio, and Xubuntu flavours. The beta images are known to be reasonably free of showstopper CD build or installer bugs, while representing a very recent snapshot of 18.10 that should be representative of the features intended to ship with the final release expected on October 18th, 2018." Further reading: Canonical Shares Desktop Plans For Ubuntu 18.10.

73 comments

  1. But ... by eneville · · Score: 2

    Does it run on windows?

    --
    Why UNIX?
    1. Re:But ... by MrMr · · Score: 2

      No, windows 10 is still running the August release of 18.04 by default.

  2. Just wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    systemd will get that feature any day now.

    1. Re:Just wait by ArchieBunker · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Someone will get the bright idea to put all of /etc into a flat binary file. Think how nice that will be! Then a tool to make changes, maybe call it regedit...

      --
      Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
    2. Re: Just wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Regedit ? You mean gconf-editor right?

    3. Re: Just wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was more thinking... system-persistent-configuration_ctl.

    4. Re: Just wait by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      It's going to require 70 different obscure libraries and frameworks to function.

      --
      Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
    5. Re:Just wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just read that Lennart Poettering saw you post and just twitted "Hey! That's a great idea!"

      Nice job, a-hole! ;)

      captcha: annular

  3. Good stuff by demon+driver · · Score: 1

    Although I've been a fan of MATE for a while, I see myself in the process of converting those machines to Budgie which are powerful enough, and moving to Xubuntu those which aren't. Unfortunately, MATE 18.04 seems to put much more demand on hardware than 16.04 used to – at least that's my impression so far.

    1. Re:Good stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it is bogged down with Gnome 3 applications and components and other stuff somewhat bloating up. I only tried Lubuntu 18.04 and saw that the pdf reader is a Gnome 3 application with GTK header bar! I'll stick with Mint though I would like to use "real" Ubuntu sometimes. What Ubuntu offers that isn't on Mint : network installation, minimal installation, Ubuntu 18.10.
      What Mint offers : a pdf reader and picture viewers that use GTK 3 but with classic menu and tool bars. (known as the 'xapps', probably easy to get running in ubuntu and debian). Also the Mint-X and Mint-Y themes (not anything fancy : they work)

      If this doesn't bother you you could try a minimal install (i.e. no graphics, no desktop) and apt-get install Xorg, Mate, alsa, pulseaudio and what you need.
      I think Mint Xfce is good too.
      Then we're haggling about default icon themes and layout and a few apps, so I won't say you need to change your plans.

    2. Re:Good stuff by angle_mark · · Score: 1

      What Mint offers : a pdf reader and picture viewers that use GTK 3 but with classic menu and tool bars. (known as the 'xapps', probably easy to get running in ubuntu and debian).

      Ubuntu Mate 18.04, Default PDF application is Atril. Text editor is Pluma. Eye of Mate image viewer etc. All have classic menu and tool bar. Caja (same on Mint) is a decent file manager. The Mate Tweak application with its easy desktop layout switching is neat. Have found it a solid distro for getting sh*t done.

      That being said, have used Mint in the past and liked it a lot too.

    3. Re:Good stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good I can try 18.10 Mate then (the trackpad was shit on a particular laptop on 18.04 and Mint 19, I'm curious if it was updated)

  4. Not the year of Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only place Linux desktop seems to make progress is running on Microsft's Azure platform? Which if users are buying Azure I am not sure Microsoft gives a shit what OS you run on it. Otherwise desktop OS users are finding Windows 10 plenty good for the most part. I know I have tried Linux desktops and while the OS is perfectly fine, the rest of the apps suck.

    1. Re:Not the year of Linux by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

      It's been making steady progress on the Top 500 too.. The last two non-Linux machines dropped off the list a short while ago (two AIX (if memory serves) supercomputers that were retired)

      Haters (not you) always gotta hate.. I think Linus has done a pretty damn good job. His OS (or variants thereof) is the most used OSes on Earth... Give him his props..

  5. pfft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    another systemdOS clone who cares it ain't *nix....

    1. Re: pfft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I wish i had an account and mod points for you

    2. Re: pfft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed

    3. Re: pfft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then register an account, you jackass.

    4. Re:pfft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thing is. .. when you rewrite one thing, you quickly find out the parts linked to it were made of duct tape that nobody has touched in years, best thing is to just keep re-writing until you've done it all and get back to your own code.

    5. Re:pfft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If by 'duct tape' you mean 'simple and working', then this is an accurate statement of the absurdity of the systemd development process.

  6. Canonical trinkets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ubuntu varients from rock-solid U-16.04 are lubricious trinkets Cannonical hucksters while pimping its bones to Micro$oft. The home desktop lusr has no reason to move from ultra-reliable Leggy Lynx (whatever) to the new and fragile painted hussy. I mean ... who would fuck-a-Gnome in preference to cuddly MATE-desktop 1.18 ?

    1. Re: Canonical trinkets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I looked at this release. It is very user friendly and intuitive but I havenâ(TM)t been able to look at all the options, including network monitoring. It may not work with all corporate IT systems. Time will tell.

    2. Re: Canonical trinkets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It has the wonderful network-manager poettering blessed us with, combined with the amazing systemd we will have the year of winnix on the desktop!

    3. Re: Canonical trinkets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "the wonderful network-manager poettering blessed us with"

      That abomination is his work as well? Should have known.

  7. Eventually by zkiwi34 · · Score: 2

    They will probably notice that Linux is a better host for Linux VM's.

  8. Can't use anything else than Arch Linux by Oasis1701 · · Score: 0

    Good for Ubuntu. For me i'm new to Linux and i don't think i will ever part ways with Arch for my personal use.

    1. Re:Can't use anything else than Arch Linux by johnsie · · Score: 1

      "I use arch" "I'm vegan" "I only eat non-gluten". Yeah, we've come across this sort people before.

    2. Re:Can't use anything else than Arch Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The vegan crowd and the non-gluten crowd are different.

      You have two different world-views to satirize here -- do not waste them by lumping them together in one insult.

    3. Re:Can't use anything else than Arch Linux by Oasis1701 · · Score: 0

      I don't know how you assumed i ment that. Well i guess it's internet and that happens all the time.

  9. Unity on 18.10? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unity works fine on 18.04. But giving up Unity for clunky klugey Gnome desktop? No thanks. I'd give up Ubuntu in that case.

    1. Re:Unity on 18.10? by jwymanm · · Score: 1

      GNOME is way better these days than it ever was. Unity was way more clunky. Ubuntu is going in a great direction finally and has put all dev support behind what other distros are also using. I use latest Ubuntu and Antergos (Arch) on all my machines. The desktop experience is great finally.

    2. Re:Unity on 18.10? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually while I always refused to use Gnome 3 and Unity I could see myself trying Ubuntu 18.10, Gnome version. New pretty default theme?, major performance improvements in Gnome 3 (mind you it just means it sucked balls before) and if I need to capitulate and suffer header bar shit I might as well go to the horse's mouth (Gnome 3)
      But meanwhile there's no shortage of Windows 95 clones : KDE, Mint, Windows 10 + classic shell.

    3. Re: Unity on 18.10? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does Gnome have fractional display scaling yet, or am I still forced to pick between microscopic and Fischer-Price "My First UI" size on a hi-dpi display?

      It's pathetic that it's taken them this ling to fix that. Literally years behind Mac and Windows.

    4. Re:Unity on 18.10? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MATE mutiny is also a good replacement for Unity on 18.04

    5. Re: Unity on 18.10? by lexman098 · · Score: 1

      xrandr --scale

  10. Walk Away from CoCs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Free Software developers of the world, open your eyes! Our communities are bring raped, our work pillaged.

    Detestable villains - mean spirited, bigoted, belligerent, vicious - are using underhanded tricks to force hypocritical "Codes of Conduct" on the projects we built.

    The only purpose of these CoCs is to allow so-called "Progressives" to conduct witch hunts against anyone who opposes them. Thereby they plan to steal our work for their shadowy corporate paymasters.

    You can readily tell these CoCs are not about "just being nice" - because they are ALWAYS supported by the very LEAST NICE, most aggressively mean and shamelessly bigoted people you can imagine.

    If a project to which you contribute has been raped by CoC-mongers there is a simple solution: WALK AWAY. Never contribute again. If you have a patch almost ready, count the time you spent on it as a loss and throw it away. If you see a security issue, remain silent and do nothing. IT'S NO LONGER YOUR PROJECT. YOU ARE NOT WELCOME THERE.

    If you are evaluating new software, don't even consider any projects burdened under the tyranny of a CoC. It doesn't matter if they are technically superior - just don't consider them. Never be openly political, always make up a technical reason for rejecting CoCed projects.

    Don't argue in public about the CoC. Doing so only exposes you to needless risk. You might be dis-employed, blackballed, and even set up for a #MeToo purge. Just stay far away.

    Comrades: Individually we are powerless, and easily crushed beneath the iron boot of Corporate Social Just-Us. But together in solidarity we are millions and we are strong. The very Internet itself depends on our collective labor. If we stop working, the internet stops working.

    Free Software developers, save yourselves and save your communities! Just WALK AWAY from any project with a CoC. Without our labor they are nothing.

    1. Re: Walk Away from CoCs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bye and good riddance.

    2. Re: Walk Away from CoCs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Says the homunculus who's never contributed a line of code in his life.

    3. Re: Walk Away from CoCs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Says the homunculus who's never contributed a line of code in his life.

      a) Did you just assume their gender?

      b) They don't have to have contributed a line of code.

      c) If they have an unconventional hair color, they're welcome regardless!

      d) In fact, unless they do have an unconventional hair color, their opinion doesn't matter whatsoever.

    4. Re: Walk Away from CoCs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "his" applies to both genders, because the masculine gender preempts the feminine gender.
      English language is retarded anyway, other languages use the gender of the word "life" to determine the pronoun's gender. Hence why pronoun debates are US-centric and English-centric and thus a mark of cultural imperialism that infringes on other cultures lol. I'm offended! Please tell who you are so that I contact your current and prospective employers, and bring a lawsuit against you.

  11. Enough with Linux on the Desktop by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Linux dominates on:

    • Mobile devices
    • IoT
    • Servers
    • Cloud
    • Consumer electronics
    • Supercomputers

    Linux doesn't come anywhere near dominating on:

    • Desktops

    One of these markets is fading hard. Guess which one?

    Desktop isn't the metric we should be looking at. Not anymore.

    --
    Finding God in a Dog
    1. Re:Enough with Linux on the Desktop by demon+driver · · Score: 1

      Why should Linux even "dominate" anything? I'm satisfied as long as it works for me and I don't have to put up with the horrors of having to use and administer Windows machines at home. It's bad enough I have to use WIndows at work.

    2. Re:Enough with Linux on the Desktop by johnsie · · Score: 1

      Why the domination goal? You some sort of control freak? Let people be free to do what they want. Posted from my desktop.

    3. Re:Enough with Linux on the Desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It isn't a goal, it's just a statement defining reality

    4. Re:Enough with Linux on the Desktop by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 1

      It goes back to an anti-MS backlash after being forced - by means of OEM agreements - to pay for buggy shit-tier software like Win95 and Win98 whenever we bought a computer. Winning the desktop became a goal. I'm saying that goal is obsolete.

      --
      Finding God in a Dog
    5. Re: Enough with Linux on the Desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For some people stuck in the Stone Age, domination is a sure sign of betterness.

    6. Re:Enough with Linux on the Desktop by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      One of these markets is fading hard. Guess which one?

      Supercomputers.

      Did I guess right? I guess you wanted me to say Desktops but the millions of corporate users would disagree with you.

    7. Re:Enough with Linux on the Desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. Linux has a nice showing on Desktops and is a perfectly fine default choice.
      2. People who haven't experienced either Windows or Linux will not tend towards Windows markedly, if at all.
      3. The desktop isn't "fading hard" at all.

    8. Re:Enough with Linux on the Desktop by Baki · · Score: 1

      It would be best if there were no dominating system at all, and everyone would stick to (open) standards.

      When windows was dominant (on the sum of all devices), they could subvert standards and lock out other systems. If this would have continued, I bet windows (IE) might have been a requirement to watch Netflix. Luckily, the threat of Linux (and Mac) alone have been enough to prevent this. Of course there have been multiple factors to prevent this horror scenario, including concerns from politics in various nations.

      Therefore I think, if you don't care at all as long as "it works for me", you might sooner or later be limited in your options.

  12. Not updating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After the amount of network related stuff that broke on two of my machines during the update from 16.04 to 18.04 I don't think I'll be touching 18.10.

  13. Try systemd free Devuan by walterbyrd · · Score: 3, Informative

    I cannot find anything really wrong with it. It's like using real Debian, instead of systemd crap. Great package management.

    Not sure why Devuan is not more popular.

    1. Re: Try systemd free Devuan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because people donâ(TM)t know how to pronounce the name and the FAQ hasnâ(TM)t been updated.

    2. Re: Try systemd free Devuan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Dev-1"

      And it's great --- currently using it on most of my computers. And a couple remote servers (for work).

    3. Re: Try systemd free Devuan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Dev-1"

      LOL. You do realize nobody's willing to call it that, right?

      Maybe De-vu-ahn or De'von.

      (Just imagine it's a Vietnamese or African American name.)

    4. Re:Try systemd free Devuan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Because majority of users don't see systemd as a problem and are not interested in those fanatics who overblow systemd problems.

    5. Re:Try systemd free Devuan by apoc.famine · · Score: 0

      As the AC here said so eloquently:

      Because majority of users don't see systemd as a problem and are not interested in those fanatics who overblow systemd problems.

      If your use-case involves you failing to be able to use systemD, then don't use Debian/Ubuntu. But assuming that it bothers the rest of us is asinine. The only time I remember that it's my init system is when I come across a post like yours.

      --
      Velociraptor = Distiraptor / Timeraptor
    6. Re:Try systemd free Devuan by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Not sure why Devuan is not more popular.

      Because when all is said and done the world didn't end with Systemd and ultimately no one but a few of the most vocal minority cared. Linux didn't end. BSD didn't become the most popular of the *IX flavours. Servers kept humming away.

      Why throw away a perfectly good Debian distro for it's distinctly more experimental cousin?

    7. Re:Try systemd free Devuan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I recently installed Devuan, and, indeed, it is simply Debian for all intents and purposes except the systemd removed.

      Truth be told, I would rather have a Devuan-based Mint than vanilla Devuan, but that's fine too, albeit less polished.

    8. Re:Try systemd free Devuan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Love or hate systemd as you wish. My computers are fast, stable & reliable on Dev1, like they were before systemd disease.

    9. Re:Try systemd free Devuan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not very bright.

      Systemd is the "experimental" init system. Lots of "wontfix" problems.

  14. Unity does WORK on 18.10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So far, so good. It seems to be working fine: Unity working on 18.10

    See also Unty Testing 18.10

  15. Why is this news? by sqorbit · · Score: 2

    A beta version of an Ubuntu release that is not LTS require a front page spot on Slashdot? I get it, I love some "bleeding edge" distro's and it's fun to have the latest stuff from GNOME or KDE. Ubuntu release like this are neither bleeding edge, or really important releases. They aren't bleeding edge enough to get you excited. They aren't supported long enough to install them on anything other than a home PC you have fun with. I understand Ubuntu may be a front runner, but this is just not headline worthy.

    --
    Sent from my TARDIS
    1. Re:Why is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dunno. This is traditionally the correct moment to update the previous LTS to the current one.

    2. Re:Why is this news? by johnsie · · Score: 1

      You clicked it. This site gets its revenue from clicks.

    3. Re:Why is this news? by sad_ · · Score: 1

      because it's the most popular linux distro?

      --
      On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
    4. Re:Why is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might wait for Ubuntu 18.04.2 which would use the kernel and Xorg from 18.10.
      The kernel 4.15 for Ubuntu 18.04 is considered as kind of shit and not supporting recent hardware well enough.

  16. Cuttlefish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kyle... should I have the cuttlefish or the vanilla flavored paste?

  17. 32 bits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will it run on 32 bits machines?

  18. When they fix the bugs, not before by Lorens · · Score: 1

    These are lists of bugs in just gnome-shell. The reading is terrifying for people who actually want to work with Ubuntu. Some were known before releasing 18.04 "LTS", are still not fixed, and force me to avoid using full-screen video and to reboot my Ubuntu VM very regularly. Luckily I don't depend on Ubuntu for work, it's just a VM...

    https://trello.com/c/pe5mRmx7
    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubu...

  19. And with Gnome 3.* by default! by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 1

    Thus guaranteeing that Linux in the desktop will carry on getting nowhere. By default.

  20. Cosmic Cuttlefish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cosmic Cuttlefish? Shoulda named it after Trump: Colluding Cocksucker

    Oh, well. Maybe a future release?

      * Deranged Donald
      * Impeached Imbecile/Incompetent Idiot
      * Kooky Klan-lover
      * Mushroom-dicked MAGAtard-Leader
      * Pee-on-me POTUS
      * Scandal-Ridden Shithead

  21. Give up systemd and you're my baby.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I liked Ubuntu with Gnome. But, systemd was the deal breaker and my new choice is Devuan Beowulf (Buster). I'm looking to FreeBSD as well.

  22. Ubuntu minus systemd please! by deepclutch · · Score: 1

    Ubuntu, Debian without systemd possibly with OpenRC or SysV init as option. No? Angry with us infidels who hate your systemd and RH?

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    move to FOSS,save ur nation's resources.