What Mint offers : a pdf reader and picture viewers that use GTK 3 but with classic menu and tool bars. (known as the 'xapps', probably easy to get running in ubuntu and debian).
Ubuntu Mate 18.04, Default PDF application is Atril. Text editor is Pluma. Eye of Mate image viewer etc. All have classic menu and tool bar. Caja (same on Mint) is a decent file manager. The Mate Tweak application with its easy desktop layout switching is neat. Have found it a solid distro for getting sh*t done.
That being said, have used Mint in the past and liked it a lot too.
For fucks sake! This has to be THE most ridiculous thing I have ever read in my life. I can't believe how stupid some people can be. Did it not pass through the heads of those pressing the charges that its a pretty stupid thing to prosecute someone for doing something not to someone else but to themselves? Yeah sorry if my point is BLATANTLY OBVIOUS but I can't fathom how those prosecuting even have the brain power to get out of bed in the morning.
Well not that I've used it but I've heard AI Roboform is a nice alternative to Gator that doesn't have any annoying spyware embedded. It can import Gator's password files.
I agree with your comments about WINE, if the software you want to use is designed for Windows then you should damnwell use Windows. Its all about using the right tool for the job at hand. However I do find Cygwin useful, e.g. at our uni labs we don't have an actual Unix lab but we do have a few Unix servers and use Cygwin/XFree86 to run remote sessions. Very nice and works well. The only real uses for Wine are if you are stuck in a Unix/Linux environment and have no option to run anything else. However I think its more often the case that people find themselves stuck in Windows rather than been stuck in Unix/Linux.
After reading that the site wouldn't make my eyes bleed I happily went and took a look but ugh! All that red text and faint type. My eyes are bleeding! The content on the site IS good though. An interesting read.
I'm guessing I'll rub some here the wrong way and I don't want to go agreeing with a troll but I hate to say it.. I agree with a point the parent makes. Opera is a leaner download. Its also a lot faster. Yes its not free, but its well worth paying for.
I used to use Mozilla Firebird a lot. Thats until I installed opera. Tonight I just downloaded Firebird 0.7 to give it a whirl and its simply still not as quick. Nowhere near in fact. In Opera I can do pretty much anything in as much time as it takes to think of it. This is due to the interface being of a damned clever design coupled with the program just generally being lightning fast.
Eg. want to check mail? Easy hit F4 and your new mail is there staring in you in the face before you know it. Opera's intergrated M2 mail client rules. Works very well with newsgroups too.
Want to open a new blank tab? Hold down right mouse button and slide down. There new window open.
Zoom a page? (both images and text) hold down control and scroll mouse wheel.
Also it has the Google search bar etc. I added the mouse gestures stuff to Firebird to try it out but like I said earler it just doesn't feel anywhere near as snappy nor as intuitive in general use. Also Firebird's 9 meg file is a pretty large download for a "lean" browser although I can understand the reasons why. Its also dissapointing that the Firebird page doesn't have a nice easily accessible XFT enabled build available. I hate those clunky X fonts. Don't get me wrong, Firebird is great and I hope it keeps getting better and better, it is by far the 2nd best browser. However a little bit of critisicm never hurt anybody.
There are some free and some commercial products which can offer full read/write + journalling access for ext3 partitions from Windows. I'd definitely recommend you pick ext3 over fat32.
Some examples..
Free: Explore2fs allows you to read ext2 and ext3. Limited write support is available.
Commercial: Ext2FS Anywhere don't let the name put you off as it has full read/write support for ext2, ext3 and I think reiserFS is supported now too.
Hard drives are thoroughly tested before they are sold. How do you think they test hard drives before they are sold? Think about it? Yes thats right, at some stage in that testing they must write data to them. Therefore it is trivial to install Lindows on the hard drives during testing.
Yeah I have its not the installation that bothers me, that was good. More it was an issue with things like 2d quality. The Radeon seems to have the better font rendering for example, at least to my eyes anyway.
They don't suck for me. Running the ATI 3.2.5 XFree 4.3 drivers with Radeon 9000 pro and everything is goin' nice and smooth. Also as far as drivers go I've had more troubles with Nvidia cards be it under windows or Linux than anything else.
"..While it's a little hard to judge performance critically, since the demo runs from a CD, it ran nicely on a 900 MHz Athlon system, and I have to suspect that, since it is, after all, Linux and Gnome, it will run on relatively modest enterprise computers with rather fewer resources than Windows OSes, especially XP."
Don't want to sound like a shill but give www.fastmail.fm a try. Its free. Gives you 10mb of mailbox space. Has secure imap access, secure webmail access plus lots of other cool things. Oh and it can collect mail from your hotmail and other pop accounts.
Yup ur right about that! Hey but Albury's going to get a nice big freeway cutting through it in the next few years huh? That should be nice and smooth:-)
You spelled Thinkpad wrong.
The problem is the perception and not the reality. Damage is already done.
What Mint offers : a pdf reader and picture viewers that use GTK 3 but with classic menu and tool bars. (known as the 'xapps', probably easy to get running in ubuntu and debian).
Ubuntu Mate 18.04, Default PDF application is Atril. Text editor is Pluma. Eye of Mate image viewer etc. All have classic menu and tool bar. Caja (same on Mint) is a decent file manager. The Mate Tweak application with its easy desktop layout switching is neat. Have found it a solid distro for getting sh*t done.
That being said, have used Mint in the past and liked it a lot too.
For fucks sake! This has to be THE most ridiculous thing I have ever read in my life. I can't believe how stupid some people can be. Did it not pass through the heads of those pressing the charges that its a pretty stupid thing to prosecute someone for doing something not to someone else but to themselves? Yeah sorry if my point is BLATANTLY OBVIOUS but I can't fathom how those prosecuting even have the brain power to get out of bed in the morning.
Well not that I've used it but I've heard AI Roboform is a nice alternative to Gator that doesn't have any annoying spyware embedded. It can import Gator's password files.
I agree with your comments about WINE, if the software you want to use is designed for Windows then you should damnwell use Windows. Its all about using the right tool for the job at hand. However I do find Cygwin useful, e.g. at our uni labs we don't have an actual Unix lab but we do have a few Unix servers and use Cygwin/XFree86 to run remote sessions. Very nice and works well. The only real uses for Wine are if you are stuck in a Unix/Linux environment and have no option to run anything else. However I think its more often the case that people find themselves stuck in Windows rather than been stuck in Unix/Linux.
After reading that the site wouldn't make my eyes bleed I happily went and took a look but ugh! All that red text and faint type. My eyes are bleeding! The content on the site IS good though. An interesting read.
Oh come on, this is Telstra you are talking about. Aria would be flattened.
Try control + arrow keys for that buddy.
Well, I booted into Windows to try out iTunes and now thanks to it I can't bring myself to go back to Linux for at least a while!
So true! But for some reason I still use Linux over Windows. Glutton for punishment I guess ;-)
I'm guessing I'll rub some here the wrong way and I don't want to go agreeing with a troll but I hate to say it.. I agree with a point the parent makes. Opera is a leaner download. Its also a lot faster. Yes its not free, but its well worth paying for.
I used to use Mozilla Firebird a lot. Thats until I installed opera. Tonight I just downloaded Firebird 0.7 to give it a whirl and its simply still not as quick. Nowhere near in fact. In Opera I can do pretty much anything in as much time as it takes to think of it. This is due to the interface being of a damned clever design coupled with the program just generally being lightning fast.
Eg. want to check mail? Easy hit F4 and your new mail is there staring in you in the face before you know it. Opera's intergrated M2 mail client rules. Works very well with newsgroups too.
Want to open a new blank tab? Hold down right mouse button and slide down. There new window open.
Zoom a page? (both images and text) hold down control and scroll mouse wheel.
Also it has the Google search bar etc. I added the mouse gestures stuff to Firebird to try it out but like I said earler it just doesn't feel anywhere near as snappy nor as intuitive in general use. Also Firebird's 9 meg file is a pretty large download for a "lean" browser although I can understand the reasons why. Its also dissapointing that the Firebird page doesn't have a nice easily accessible XFT enabled build available. I hate those clunky X fonts. Don't get me wrong, Firebird is great and I hope it keeps getting better and better, it is by far the 2nd best browser. However a little bit of critisicm never hurt anybody.
Hey won't we be using quantum computers by then? Just brute force the damn thing! :-P
Indeed.
There are some free and some commercial products which can offer full read/write + journalling access for ext3 partitions from Windows. I'd definitely recommend you pick ext3 over fat32.
Some examples..
Free: Explore2fs allows you to read ext2 and ext3. Limited write support is available.
Commercial: Ext2FS Anywhere don't let the name put you off as it has full read/write support for ext2, ext3 and I think reiserFS is supported now too.
It would be inconvenient trying to run our present society if Windows machines all went kablooey at once...
Well if that's their motivation then they're behind the times. We all know windows already has that functionality built in.
Hard drives are thoroughly tested before they are sold. How do you think they test hard drives before they are sold? Think about it? Yes thats right, at some stage in that testing they must write data to them. Therefore it is trivial to install Lindows on the hard drives during testing.
Yeah I have its not the installation that bothers me, that was good. More it was an issue with things like 2d quality. The Radeon seems to have the better font rendering for example, at least to my eyes anyway.
They don't suck for me. Running the ATI 3.2.5 XFree 4.3 drivers with Radeon 9000 pro and everything is goin' nice and smooth. Also as far as drivers go I've had more troubles with Nvidia cards be it under windows or Linux than anything else.
It helps if you read the articles on occasion
from the review linked by the poster
"..While it's a little hard to judge performance critically, since the demo runs from a CD, it ran nicely on a 900 MHz Athlon system, and I have to suspect that, since it is, after all, Linux and Gnome, it will run on relatively modest enterprise computers with rather fewer resources than Windows OSes, especially XP."
About the usb mice question. Nope doesn't seem to have a problem. Have recently installed 9.1 on a couple of systems and they both used usb mice.
And then probably for no reason
CROCS RULE!
The Insert Image dialog does NOT have a preview pane (which IS ESSENTIAL WHEN CHOOSING IMAGES, I don't want to accidently insert the goatse guy!).
You keep goatse guy on your computer!?
Don't want to sound like a shill but give www.fastmail.fm a try. Its free. Gives you 10mb of mailbox space. Has secure imap access, secure webmail access plus lots of other cool things. Oh and it can collect mail from your hotmail and other pop accounts.
Yup ur right about that! Hey but Albury's going to get a nice big freeway cutting through it in the next few years huh? That should be nice and smooth :-)