Ubuntu Linux 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Beta Now Available For Desktop, Cloud and Server Versions (betanews.com)

Roughly three weeks ahead of the scheduled release of Ubuntu Linux 18.10 "Cosmic Cuttlefish", the latest major update for the popular Linux distro, beta of all of its flavors -- desktop, cloud and server -- is now available for download. From a report: Codenamed 'Cosmic Cuttlefish,' 18.10 continues Ubuntu's proud tradition of integrating the latest and greatest open source technologies into a high-quality, easy-to-use Linux distribution. The team has been hard at work through this cycle, introducing new features and fixing bugs," says Adam Conrad, Software Engineer, Canonical. Conrad further says, "This beta release includes images from not only the Ubuntu Desktop, Server, and Cloud products, but also the Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Budgie, UbuntuKylin, Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu Studio, and Xubuntu flavours. The beta images are known to be reasonably free of showstopper CD build or installer bugs, while representing a very recent snapshot of 18.10 that should be representative of the features intended to ship with the final release expected on October 18th, 2018." Further reading: Canonical Shares Desktop Plans For Ubuntu 18.10.

Comments

But ...

[eneville]

Does it run on windows?

Re:But ...

[MrMr]

No, windows 10 is still running the August release of 18.04 by default.

Just wait

[Anonymous Coward]

systemd will get that feature any day now.

Re:Just wait

[ArchieBunker]

Someone will get the bright idea to put all of /etc into a flat binary file. Think how nice that will be! Then a tool to make changes, maybe call it regedit...

Re: Just wait

[ArchieBunker]

It's going to require 70 different obscure libraries and frameworks to function.

Good stuff

[demon driver]

Although I've been a fan of MATE for a while, I see myself in the process of converting those machines to Budgie which are powerful enough, and moving to Xubuntu those which aren't. Unfortunately, MATE 18.04 seems to put much more demand on hardware than 16.04 used to – at least that's my impression so far.

Re:Good stuff

[Anonymous Coward]

Perhaps it is bogged down with Gnome 3 applications and components and other stuff somewhat bloating up. I only tried Lubuntu 18.04 and saw that the pdf reader is a Gnome 3 application with GTK header bar! I'll stick with Mint though I would like to use "real" Ubuntu sometimes. What Ubuntu offers that isn't on Mint : network installation, minimal installation, Ubuntu 18.10.
What Mint offers : a pdf reader and picture viewers that use GTK 3 but with classic menu and tool bars. (known as the 'xapps', probably easy to get running in ubuntu and debian). Also the Mint-X and Mint-Y themes (not anything fancy : they work)

If this doesn't bother you you could try a minimal install (i.e. no graphics, no desktop) and apt-get install Xorg, Mate, alsa, pulseaudio and what you need.
I think Mint Xfce is good too.
Then we're haggling about default icon themes and layout and a few apps, so I won't say you need to change your plans.

Re:Good stuff

[angle_mark]

What Mint offers : a pdf reader and picture viewers that use GTK 3 but with classic menu and tool bars. (known as the 'xapps', probably easy to get running in ubuntu and debian).

Ubuntu Mate 18.04, Default PDF application is Atril. Text editor is Pluma. Eye of Mate image viewer etc. All have classic menu and tool bar. Caja (same on Mint) is a decent file manager. The Mate Tweak application with its easy desktop layout switching is neat. Have found it a solid distro for getting sh*t done.

That being said, have used Mint in the past and liked it a lot too.

pfft

[Anonymous Coward]

another systemdOS clone who cares it ain't *nix....

Re: pfft

[Anonymous Coward]

I wish i had an account and mod points for you

Canonical trinkets

[Anonymous Coward]

Ubuntu varients from rock-solid U-16.04 are lubricious trinkets Cannonical hucksters while pimping its bones to Micro$oft. The home desktop lusr has no reason to move from ultra-reliable Leggy Lynx (whatever) to the new and fragile painted hussy. I mean ... who would fuck-a-Gnome in preference to cuddly MATE-desktop 1.18 ?

Eventually

[zkiwi34]

They will probably notice that Linux is a better host for Linux VM's.

Enough with Linux on the Desktop

[MAXOMENOS]

Linux dominates on:

• Mobile devices
• IoT
• Servers
• Cloud
• Consumer electronics
• Supercomputers

Linux doesn't come anywhere near dominating on:

• Desktops

One of these markets is fading hard. Guess which one?

Desktop isn't the metric we should be looking at. Not anymore.

Re:Enough with Linux on the Desktop

[demon driver]

Why should Linux even "dominate" anything? I'm satisfied as long as it works for me and I don't have to put up with the horrors of having to use and administer Windows machines at home. It's bad enough I have to use WIndows at work.

Re:Enough with Linux on the Desktop

[johnsie]

Why the domination goal? You some sort of control freak? Let people be free to do what they want. Posted from my desktop.

Re:Enough with Linux on the Desktop

[MAXOMENOS]

It goes back to an anti-MS backlash after being forced - by means of OEM agreements - to pay for buggy shit-tier software like Win95 and Win98 whenever we bought a computer. Winning the desktop became a goal. I'm saying that goal is obsolete.

Re:Enough with Linux on the Desktop

[thegarbz]

One of these markets is fading hard. Guess which one?

Supercomputers.

Did I guess right? I guess you wanted me to say Desktops but the millions of corporate users would disagree with you.

Re:Enough with Linux on the Desktop

[Baki]

It would be best if there were no dominating system at all, and everyone would stick to (open) standards.

When windows was dominant (on the sum of all devices), they could subvert standards and lock out other systems. If this would have continued, I bet windows (IE) might have been a requirement to watch Netflix. Luckily, the threat of Linux (and Mac) alone have been enough to prevent this. Of course there have been multiple factors to prevent this horror scenario, including concerns from politics in various nations.

Therefore I think, if you don't care at all as long as "it works for me", you might sooner or later be limited in your options.

Re:Unity on 18.10?

[jwymanm]

GNOME is way better these days than it ever was. Unity was way more clunky. Ubuntu is going in a great direction finally and has put all dev support behind what other distros are also using. I use latest Ubuntu and Antergos (Arch) on all my machines. The desktop experience is great finally.

Try systemd free Devuan

[walterbyrd]

I cannot find anything really wrong with it. It's like using real Debian, instead of systemd crap. Great package management.

Not sure why Devuan is not more popular.

Re:Try systemd free Devuan

[thegarbz]

Not sure why Devuan is not more popular.

Because when all is said and done the world didn't end with Systemd and ultimately no one but a few of the most vocal minority cared. Linux didn't end. BSD didn't become the most popular of the *IX flavours. Servers kept humming away.

Why throw away a perfectly good Debian distro for it's distinctly more experimental cousin?

Why is this news?

[sqorbit]

A beta version of an Ubuntu release that is not LTS require a front page spot on Slashdot? I get it, I love some "bleeding edge" distro's and it's fun to have the latest stuff from GNOME or KDE. Ubuntu release like this are neither bleeding edge, or really important releases. They aren't bleeding edge enough to get you excited. They aren't supported long enough to install them on anything other than a home PC you have fun with. I understand Ubuntu may be a front runner, but this is just not headline worthy.

Re:Why is this news?

[johnsie]

You clicked it. This site gets its revenue from clicks.

Re:Why is this news?

[sad_]

because it's the most popular linux distro?

Re:Not the year of Linux

[jpaine619]

It's been making steady progress on the Top 500 too.. The last two non-Linux machines dropped off the list a short while ago (two AIX (if memory serves) supercomputers that were retired)

Haters (not you) always gotta hate.. I think Linus has done a pretty damn good job. His OS (or variants thereof) is the most used OSes on Earth... Give him his props..

Re:Can't use anything else than Arch Linux

[johnsie]

"I use arch" "I'm vegan" "I only eat non-gluten". Yeah, we've come across this sort people before.

When they fix the bugs, not before

[Lorens]

These are lists of bugs in just gnome-shell. The reading is terrifying for people who actually want to work with Ubuntu. Some were known before releasing 18.04 "LTS", are still not fixed, and force me to avoid using full-screen video and to reboot my Ubuntu VM very regularly. Luckily I don't depend on Ubuntu for work, it's just a VM...

https://trello.com/c/pe5mRmx7
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubu...

And with Gnome 3.* by default!

[OneHundredAndTen]

Thus guaranteeing that Linux in the desktop will carry on getting nowhere. By default.

Re: Unity on 18.10?

[lexman098]

xrandr --scale

Ubuntu minus systemd please!

[deepclutch]

Ubuntu, Debian without systemd possibly with OpenRC or SysV init as option. No? Angry with us infidels who hate your systemd and RH?