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Body Camera Maker Will Let Cops Live-Stream Their Encounters (fastcompany.com)

tedlistens writes: Police officers wearing new cameras by Axon, the U.S.'s largest body camera supplier, will soon be able to send live video from their cameras back to base and elsewhere, potentially expanding police surveillance. Another feature of the new device -- set to be released next year -- triggers the camera to start recording and alerts command staff once an officer has fired their weapon, a possible corrective to the problem of officers forgetting to switch them on. (The initial price of $699 doesn't include other costs, like a subscription to Axon's Evidence.com data management system.)

But adding new technologies to body camera video introduces new privacy concerns, say legal experts, who have cautioned that a network of live-streaming cameras risks turning officers into roving sentinels for a giant panopticon-like surveillance system. Harlan Yu, the executive director of Upturn, a Washington nonprofit consultancy that has studied body cameras, says that live-streaming could erode community trust and help enable more controversial technologies like real-time face recognition. "The capability to live stream all BWC footage back to a department- or precinct-wide command center... will further entrench body-worn cameras as tools for police surveillance of communities, rather than tools for transparency," he said.

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  1. Cops - LIVE! by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do?

    1. Re:Cops - LIVE! by darkain · · Score: 1

      I think I have a new favorite Twitch channel!

  2. recording after? by rogoshen1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Huh, wouldn't it seem that the events just prior to the cop shooting are what is actually relevant.

    Perhaps they should figure out a way to trigger recording when the cop starts showing stress reactions (which could be triggered by fear, anger, etc)

    1. Re: recording after? by Reaper9889 · · Score: 2

      hopefully cops are not running around with their weapon drawn much and that seems a better starting time to my mind (it should be easy enough to figure out when they draw).

    2. Re: recording after? by rogoshen1 · · Score: 1

      Well even then; you wouldn't know what made the cop draw in the first place. Still better than after they shoot though.

    3. Re:recording after? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I recall reading that some early body cameras were designed to continuously record into a 30-60s buffer, and then when the camera is set to 'record' it dumps the buffer and then appends in real time. Whether this actually happens or is better or worse is up for debate.

    4. Re: recording after? by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

      From TFA: "These technologies aren’t completely new: A similar sensor Axon released last year is meant to activate cameras once a weapon is drawn from its holster"

    5. Re:recording after? by Tyrannosaur · · Score: 1

      I am under the impression that usually body cameras are continuously recording- when they get "switched on" they then start saving- as well as the previous minute or two before the turn-on. If these are not designed like that it is a huge flaw.

    6. Re:recording after? by Leuf · · Score: 1

      Typically the camera is always recording to its buffer. When it starts recording to file it includes what was in the buffer. So you get some time from before you actually start the recording. There have been cases where cops were caught planting evidence because they didn't know that and recorded themselves doing it even though they had turned off the recording.

    7. Re:recording after? by theweatherelectric · · Score: 4, Interesting

      continuously record into a 30-60s buffer, and then when the camera is set to 'record' it dumps the buffer

      This feature caught Baltimore police planting drugs in an attempt to fake body camera footage. Had they been an extra 30 seconds corrupt they would have got away with it.

    8. Re:recording after? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This feature caught Baltimore police planting drugs in an attempt to fake body camera footage.

      If you watch the video, you can see one cop planting the drugs, while two other cops stand and watch as if planting evidence is perfectly normal and routine.

      Only the cop planting the evidence was fired. The other two corrupt cops are still Baltimore police officers.

    9. Re:recording after? by thoughtlover · · Score: 1

      More like a 30-60 day buffer... If the gov is demanding that tech companies hold user data for two+ years, why can't we just demand police do the same?

      And regarding emergency recording based on gunshots.. Uh, yeah, that's a bit too late for describing events leading up to the need to discharge a gun. Cameras should come on the moment a cop finds reason to engage with the general public...maybe a proximity sensor via Bluetooth that immediately turns them on when a cop exits his car.

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    10. Re: recording after? by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      A 60 second look back from the time a weapon is drawn would seem reasonable to me.

      LK

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    11. Re:recording after? by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      I recall reading that some early body cameras were designed to continuously record into a 30-60s buffer, and then when the camera is set to 'record' it dumps the buffer and then appends in real time. Whether this actually happens or is better or worse is up for debate.

      I think technology should've improved to the point where we can get a day's worth of recordings. The unit records immediately once taken off the charger and stops at the end of the shift being placed back on the charger.

      To make life easier, you can timestamp events - when the weapon is drawn a mark is made on the recording. Likewise more markers can be made - either manually pushing a button (e.g., arriving at a scene), as well as "off duty" and "on duty" markers to indicate when the cop went on a break (or the bathroom) and when they returned.

      The markers are informative - the unit is always recording, but markers can be made to quickly index the videos. The raw recording is protected and only releasable through a court order (alongside the timestamps) but snippets can be made available freely

    12. Re:recording after? by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      A 1,000 times this. Otherwise we'll have non-stop police brutality claims and mass riots every time a suspect or perpetrator gets hit, knocked down, or shot. Context is key.

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  3. 2 views by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The encounters will expose either the cop or the perpetrator. Now if you're a perpetrator you don't want the cop to livestream your encounter. You just want to be able to say cop was bad. Too many situations have brought us to this point of people not telling the truth

    1. Re:2 views by gnick · · Score: 3, Informative

      Now if you're a perpetrator you don't want the cop to livestream your encounter.

      If you're the perpetrator that gets pulled over for speeding and then shot for smelling like cannabis, you definitely want the cop's camera on.

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    2. Re:2 views by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      shot for smelling like cannabis

      Where do these paranoid fantasies come from? A lot needs improvement in law enforcement, but solving problems begins with talking about them honestly.

    3. Re:2 views by gnick · · Score: 3, Informative

      Where do these paranoid fantasies come from?

      Fantasies?

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    4. Re:2 views by theweatherelectric · · Score: 2

      A lot needs improvement in law enforcement

      American police kill more Americans than terrorists do.

    5. Re:2 views by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      I don't mind the cops having a camera on me any more than they should mind me having a camera on them. If it's a sketchy situation, I expect that their evidence will go missing, so I'd better have my own. That aside, the number of incidents like this are a tiny minority of all stops. Cops are human and subject to all manner of human shortcomings and fuck-ups even if they're not actively evil. You're probably being overly paranoid if you expect that to happen to you, as it's probably within an order or two of magnitude of pulling down a huge lotto jackpot.

    6. Re:2 views by gnick · · Score: 1

      I don't mind the cops having a camera on me any more than they should mind me having a camera on them

      With you 100%. The laws backing cops barring cameras are offensive.

      You're probably being overly paranoid if you expect that to happen to you, as it's probably within an order or two of magnitude of pulling down a huge lotto jackpot.

      Of course it's not going to happen to me. I'm white. Shouldn't happen at all.

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    7. Re:2 views by drew_kime · · Score: 1

      You're probably being overly paranoid if you expect that to happen to you, as it's probably within an order or two of magnitude of pulling down a huge lotto jackpot.

      Median rate nationwide of officers killing civilians is 3.8 per million people. It's hard to find statistics on lottery winnings - the states running them don't want people to know how bad the odds are - but in most states big winners number in the single digits per year. The biggest state, California, only has about 10 per year. So if you were saying that there were an order of magnitude fewer officer killings, you were wrong. If you were correctly pointing out that it's only slightly more likely than winning the lottery, that's still way too often.

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    8. Re:2 views by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Evidence suggests that police body cameras result in better behaviour from the police and from the police with whom they're interacting.

      Something that simple that reduces violence during an arrest is surely a good thing for everybody.

  4. Why not activate by bobstreo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the body camera as soon as a weapon leaves the holster instead of when it's fired?

    This may end up more entertaining than Russian Car Crash Compilations.

    1. Re:Why not activate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Start the moment they set foot outside the police station.

  5. Here's an idea.... by bobbied · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seems to me that turning it on at the sound of the gun shot might be a bit too late to get the complete picture of if the use of force was justified or not.

    How about they are always recording a 2 min buffer and the sound of a gunshot triggers it to write the buffer and start the recording at a point 2 min in the past..

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  6. Authority AND Accountability by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There is a rumor that the Romans had a double-sided ax that represented two things:

    * Authority
    * Accountability

    Why?

    * Authority without Accountability leads to abuse of power.
    * Accountability without Authority leads to Bureaucracy and constant bikeshedding.

    It's time that people start demanding accountability from those in power -- to keep everyone honest.

  7. Trump can't possibly be for this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "MORE Video evidence? NO THANKS!" - Donald J Traitor

  8. Accountability, not Surveillance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    potentially expanding police surveillance

    You misspelled accountability.

    1. Re:Accountability, not Surveillance by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      I wish you were being cynical but sadly you are right.

      The founding fathers share your lament.

      "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Ben Franklin.

      Ironically it has lost its context

  9. Purpose of body cams? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I thought the whole point of body cameras was to establish what happened during police shootings. Am I missing something? You can't have it both ways; either 1) you get recordings of police (mis)behavior, or 2) you get no recordings and your privacy remains intact. Pick one. Personally, I'd opt for letting the police record their interaction with me. I think it decreases the likelihood that things will end badly for me.

    1. Re:Purpose of body cams? by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      I think it needs to go both ways. Citizens need to record their own encounters with the law or it's entirely too convenient for recordings to go missing or for malfunctions to occur. Don't ever count on police evidence to exonerate you. Even if they're not being malicious, spiteful, etc. they're still human and just as capable of lazy mistakes as the next person. Record your interaction with the police.

  10. Outrage News for Nerds by ckatko · · Score: 1

    Uhh, shouldn't we be more impressed that the evidence they normally delete is going to be livestreamed instead?

    Like a girl who accidentally (ha! "accidentally!") flashes her nipple on Twitch, and it's on the web FOREVER.

    Granted, it's not necessarily online. But it's at least one step harder to delete incriminating videos when you need TWO or more people "in on it." When a cop can just shut his camera off (why tf was that ever an option?) then do something illegal, a livestreamed, hypothetically, requires the consent of whoever is at base watching the livestream.

    So this is potentially a good thing. AND, it may be even better because this may allow us to enact FURTHER changes 10 years from now once this is standard, to force say, "citizen / watchdogs", to be allowed to watch the sensitive content live.

    Also --> If there's a COP AROUND YOU, you're ALREADY BEING WATCHED. Does the damn camera change much? (And we already have traffic cameras that are always on.)

    I'm not saying I'm for a "surveillance state", but that this isn't really any additional surveillance, and, it may even enact accountability in the long run because it's harder to delete a livestream.

  11. This should be fun by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    Since all cops are at very least, "bad cop adjacent", this should make for some very interesting Twitch streaming.

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  12. An idea by TimMD909 · · Score: 2

    Can the officers add Snapchat filters to the feeds? Make it interesting...

  13. Re:Surveillance or Evidence by toadlife · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Police cameras should be running 24/7. It's not surveillance it's evidence, both for and against police actions.

    Which is why police would never agree to it willingly. Police love body cameras so long as they control when they get turned on, what gets saved and who gets to see the footage.

    Otherwise, they hate body cams.

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  14. Surveillance must be equal by Munich+Munchkin · · Score: 1

    I'm happy if the authorities want to record what I'm doing for possible use in court against me, provided I am also free to do the same to them.

  15. when gun is fired by sad_ · · Score: 1

    Recording after the gun has been fired is way too late.
    Better would be to trigger recording on certain words/phrases.

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  16. Taser by Luthair · · Score: 1

    Don't let the sleazeballs escape their name.

  17. Re:Surveillance or Evidence by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

    I think the honest police love body cams because they can protect them from false allegations or questioning their judgement once you have the benefit of hindsight. If someone pulls a gun on an officer and the officer fires, the body cam will show that the officer acted properly. The footage can help clear an honest police officer's name.

    Now, corrupt police are another story. They hate body cam footage because the footage will show that the guy didn't pull a gun when he was shot, but that a gun was planted on him after he died of his injuries.

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  18. It's hardly more surveillance. by sabbede · · Score: 1
    Think about it - what do police body cameras record? What's in front of the cop, if the camera is fixed to the chest, or what the cop is looking at, if it's attached to glasses. So this scary "giant panopticon-like surveillance system" still requires the physical presence of a police officer looking at whatever is being surveilled.

    In other words, NO CHANGE.

    It's not like the cameras are going to catch you doing something naughty while you don't think anyone is looking. There will be a cop standing there facing you.