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Driverless Car Hype Gives Way To E-Scooter Mania Among Technorati (nbcnews.com)

Millions of dollars in funding and billions of dollars in valuations have made scooters the next big thing since the last big thing. From a report: When Michael Ramsey, an analyst for technology research firm Gartner, started in February to put together his 2018 "hype cycle" report for the future of transportation, he had plenty of topics to choose from: electric vehicles, flying cars, 5G, blockchain, and, of course, autonomous vehicles. But one type of transportation is conspicuously absent from the results of the report: electric scooters. "At the time, outside of California, these scooters were really not that common," Ramsey said. "That's how much has happened." As for autonomous vehicles, which have enjoyed years of hype as the next big thing, Ramsey labeled them sliding into "the trough of disillusionment," which Ramsey described as "when expectations don't meet the truth."

In a matter of months, electric scooter startups have gone from tech oddity to global phenomenon. In some cities, hundreds of scooters suddenly showed up on streets from companies including Bird and Lime, leaving municipalities to figure out how to handle the sudden influx of two-wheeled travelers. The concept behind the scooters is simple: A user can grab any available scooter, unlock it with an app, ride to their destination, and leave the scooter there for someone else to use. Even by the hyper-growth expectations of Silicon Valley, the rise of scooter companies has been dizzying. Scooters can be found in more than 125 cities in the U.S. and more than 10 across the globe. In the year after their launch, both Lime and Bird said their scooters had been used for more than 10 million rides.

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  1. modern day by ole_timer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    suicide

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  2. Too easy to steal by rsilvergun · · Score: 5, Interesting

    they homeless are having a field day with them. It's pretty easy to yank off the GPS and walk off with them. The batteries have value as scrap too and there's plenty of shady recycling centers that don't ask questions.

    This'll go away when the investor cash dries up and they'll be clogging landfills the world over.

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    1. Re:Too easy to steal by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

      they'll be clogging landfills the world over.

      We're getting there

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  3. Re:Huh? by youngone · · Score: 2

    Technorati is a person who knows how to change a font to bold in Microsoft Word, according to old people.
    You are an elite hacker because you have figured out how to post on Slashdot.

  4. Overnight by mobby_6kl · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Don't really have much to say about the scooters themselves but it's really bizarre how they showed up almost overnight. I've read stories about some American cities bitching about them even here on /. but there wasn't a single shared scooter here (city in central Europe).

    Occasionally you'd see some dork ride an electric scooter or one of those unicycles and even those were pretty rare. I went away for three weeks on vacation, and when I got back they're all over the place.

    One thing I've noticed before though is that a lot of successful local startups are essentially clones of what's been tried before in the US. One of a major and oldest companies here is a clone of Yahoo, there is also a clone of Groupon, and so on. I'm not really sure how financially successful these scooter companies are, but somebody is probably making money so this might've been a decent opportunity.

    1. Re:Overnight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Blitzkreig" is the term that you were looking for.

      Bird, Lime, etc. knew exactly what they were doing. They knew that there would be resistance from a substantial part of the populace, that city governments would have issues with hundreds of unlicensed scooters littering the street, that some cities would want to regulate, etc.

      So they swooped in under the radar, got them established and in use by the part of the populace who thinks this is a good idea, and now they can say "Nyah, nyah, it's easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission."

    2. Re:Overnight by Dorianny · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It is not "bizarre." They are simply following Uber's tactics of avoiding regulation by entrenching themselves before regulators have time to react. Once money is in play things get politically "tricky" for the regulators

    3. Re:Overnight by Luckyo · · Score: 3, Informative

      They're dumping the massive overproduction in China. Electric scooters have been a thing there for at least half a decade at this point, and as with all things Chinese, they tend to overproduce massively after initial need is met.

    4. Re:Overnight by joh · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's not that easy in Europe. They have quite stringent regulations for vehicles and while bicycles are bicycles (and basically 100% unregulated for historical reasons), scooters are just as rare as Segways because they're treated basically as powered toys that are not allowed on public streets. No way. Trying the same as in SF would just get you a into big and expensive trouble in Europe. You may see single people driving around with them as long as nobody cares, but dump a shitload of them onto the streets and try to make money with them and you'll be very surprised what happens to you there.

    5. Re:Overnight by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 4, Funny

      I read something recently that made me chuckle:

      "In France, everything is allowed unless it's explicitly denied,
        in Germany, everything is denied unless it's explicitly allowed,
        in Russia, everything is denied even if it's explicitly allowed,
        and in Italy, everything is allowed especially if it's explicitly denied."

      My roommate and I just got back from Italy and I was surprised that this Italian company had no problem renting her a Vespa without an International driver's license. "Just look out for the police."

    6. Re:Overnight by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's OK - these "innovators" are just doing what was already being done in China. Scooter and bike rentals have been a thing for quite a while in Shenzhen, Shanghai, Beijing, and other big cities, for quite a while.

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    7. Re:Overnight by spitzak · · Score: 2

      Bull. I was just in Paris. Not only are Bird and Lime scooters in use, there were many many apparently privately owned motorized scooters in use, perhaps more than bicycles.

    8. Re:Overnight by Crashmarik · · Score: 4, Funny

      Here's an oldie but it's definitely on target

      Heaven in Europe is where

              the English are the policemen
              the French are the cooks
              the German are the mechanics
              the Italians are the lovers
              and the Swiss organize everything

      Hell in Europe is where

              the German are the policemen
              the English are the cooks
              the French are the mechanics
              the Swiss are the lovers
              and the Italians organize everything

  5. Popcorn, anyone? by Cinnamon+Beige · · Score: 2

    I don't see this as lasting very long--haven't we already seen an article about a city banning these things? And my first run-in with one was with somebody who was of the definite opinion that "I am on an electric scooter!" means that they automatically have right of way over everybody & do not have to obey the traffic rules. (I admittedly don't know which set applies, but I'm going to bet that you won't go wrong by assuming that the ones that apply to bikes apply to scooters, powered or not.)

    I'm not advocating for it or anything, but...if you have a significant percentage of people using these things being idiots and assholes, it's going to only be a matter of time until they either get banned or start requiring a license to use. I don't particularly care, though; I'm just gonna kick back and enjoy the show.

    1. Re:Popcorn, anyone? by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      Unfortunately, they are enforcing the "no motor vehicles on the sidewalks" laws with a vengeance

      As a pedestrian who walks a small child to and from school I don't see what's unfortunate about that.

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  6. Throw them off of sidewalks by DogDude · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Every one I see on a sidewalk gets tossed by me.

    1. You can't just leave your shit in the middle of the sidewalk. That's called littering.
    2. You can't operate a business in the middle of the sidewalk. That's illegal in every municipality that I know of.
    3. The really hurt disabled people, such as people in wheelchairs and the blind.

    If I can, I just one foot underneath the middle of the things, and launch them somewhere else, out of the way. I'd put them in the trash, if it were worth my time.

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    1. Re:Throw them off of sidewalks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You can't just destroy property, that's an illegal act.

      It's also unwise for an anti-social criminal to share details of their criminal behavior online.

    2. Re:Throw them off of sidewalks by DogDude · · Score: 2

      Property left in the middle of a public sidewalk is abandoned. It's probably illegal to abandon property on a sidewalk.

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    3. Re:Throw them off of sidewalks by hey! · · Score: 2

      Well, what about a bike locked to a parking meter? Is that free to take?

      IIRC, these things have motion alarms that will sound if someone attempts to move them without unlocking them, which is an attempt at least by their owners to secure them.

      The issue here isn't abandoning stuff, nor is it using public spaces for profit, which you generally can do if the activity is not expressly forbidden. The issue is using public spaces in a way that inconveniences other users.

      If you can get away with that, making the public pay your costs is a good way to turn a marginal business into a profitable one. Dock-based bike systems work pretty well in dense city areas like Manhattan, but such a solution involves expenses like building the docks and coordinating with local officials to minimize inconvenience to other city street users. Just ignoring the inconvenience and making everyone else deal with your shit means more money in your pocket.

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    4. Re: Throw them off of sidewalks by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2

      Good luck with that claim I court. You know damn well it isn't abandoned property.

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  7. I see the next trend here! by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    So wait, first it was driverless cars, now it is scooters that are hot...

    Obvious next new hot trend: Autonomous Scooters.

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  8. Good source of by bobstreo · · Score: 4, Funny

    free batteries, charging systems, maybe sim cards, and some metal to sell as scrap. Yay makers

  9. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Mainly homosexuals in Silicon Valley who consider themselves the technological elites. Characterized primarily by the "soylent grin", dopey beards, and a slavish devotion to the latest techology trend, these "technorati" consider themselves to be the natural aristocratic class by virtue of their education and cushy tech sector jobs making important decisions about things like what color the buttons in "Generic Social Media App #11223" should be. Because of the nonsensically large salaries from their largely pointless jobs, they tend to have a certain sense of guilt for their entirely unearned privilege and as a consequence tend to espouse "socialist" political views through which they imagine they will a) assuage their upper middle class white guilt, and b) be the controlling elite in the future Socialist Utopia. Both of these are patently untrue as they, too, will be murdered unceremoniously by the third-world proletarians they advocate importing en masse and whom they believe ought to inherit the country.

    To summarize, a technorati is a self-absorbed Silicon Valley elitist. See also: futurist, technologist, narcissism, hubris.

  10. Sounds like a bad plan by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    If I can, I just one foot underneath the middle of the things, and launch them somewhere else, out of the way.

    Where is more out of the way than they are? I've usually seem them propped against posts or buildings, standing up so they are not taking up much walking space.

    If you "launch it with a foot" it will land on it's side - either on the sidewalk, or on the street, or maybe into a side of a car. There is no scenario I can see where tossing the thing several feet results in better placement, in fact all possibilities after landing seem quite a lot worse and more like actual littering.

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  11. Winter is coming by pedantic+bore · · Score: 2

    I'm guessing that this infatuation with scooters will end very quickly in many cities once there's snow and ice on the roads.

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  12. The word you want is Technocrat by FilmedInNoir · · Score: 2

    Technorati is the name of a business that got bought out in 2016 and got shut down. Did Google type stuff.

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