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TSA Lays Out Plans To Use Facial Recognition For Domestic Flights (theverge.com)

The TSA has released its roadmap to use biometrics technology in the coming years. The Verge reports: Customs and Border Protection has been using facial recognition to screen non-U.S. residents on international flights since 2015, a project that was expedited by the Trump administration. Last year, the U.S. government laid out its plans to start expanding the screening tools to U.S. citizens, which would require them to undergo facial scans when they leave the country through a system called the Biometric Pathway. Today's news lays out how the TSA will adopt the same technology, partnering with CBP on biometrics for international travelers, expanding security operations to TSA Precheck members, and eventually, using facial recognition to verify domestic travelers.

TSA says that by moving toward facial recognition technology in a time where travel volume is rising, it's hoping to reduce the need for physical documents like passports and paper tickets. Currently, TSA manually compares the passengers in front of them to their ID photos, but it believes an automated process that can match facial images to photos from passports and visa applications will be more accurate and efficient.

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  1. I didn't say it by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I didn't say that the TSA were a bunch of goose-stepping bully Nazi thugs armed with technology the Gestapo only dreamed of.
    Oh. Wait. Yes I did.

    1. Re:I didn't say it by terrycarlino · · Score: 2

      Sure do all that. Just don't expect to get on a plane afterwards. Because flying is not a constitutionally protected right. No one has to fly on an airplane. It's entirely voluntary.

      Personally I avoid it when ever possible. At work I tell them I have the Mississippi rule. If they want me to travel for work and the destination is east of the Mississippi then I expect to be paid mileage or get a rental car and drive. The time comes out of my normal salaried hours and they can pad a day on each end. Never been a problem for them. I expect most times a plane ticket would be just as expensive.

      I can't always avoid flying for work, but I certainly avoid it for non-work activities, and do. Pretty much no where I need to go that I can't drive. I realize everyone isn't in this position, but I am and I won't deal with TSA's security theater any more than I absolutely have to.

  2. The TSA is why I don't fly. by WCMI92 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I won't be sexually molested by a government goon. So until the TSA goes away I won't go anywhere my Tacoma won't take me.

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    1. Re:The TSA is why I don't fly. by jpaine619 · · Score: 3

      I've had the pat down and it is not even close to being molested. It's a pat down which is used to check for trace amounts of chemicals which are contained in things that go boom.

      You sound like you have a pretty serious case of Stockholm Syndrome...

      My guess is that you're a closet faggot and you're afraid a pat down will awaken your desires to suck cock

      Someone is obviously projecting.....

    2. Re:The TSA is why I don't fly. by dcw3 · · Score: 2

      Yeah, because you clearly need to be a younger white male to be a terrorist
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      FWIW, I'm 60, white and male...no tattoos, and have a registered Global Entry number, and yet I was recently stopped for extra screening.

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  3. And THIS is how it goes by p51d007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It started with the TSA...full body search, FOR YOUR SAFETY. It continued with full body scans, FOR YOUR SAFETY. It continued with "Real ID", FOR YOUR SAFETY. Now, facial recognition, FOR YOUR SAFETY. Where does it end? Implanted bio chips of course.

  4. SAME HERE by p51d007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not to mention, the few places I travel to, are within 6 hours, and given how much time you have to waste, getting to the airport hours early, going through the violations of your rights (TSA), plus the hassle getting out of the airport, plus, being packed onto a plane like sardines, I would rather just drive there anyway. I enjoy driving, seeing the scenery, listening to the music...I'll drive first!

  5. Your rage is directed at the wrong place by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    you're made at the barely-more-than-min-wage drone that runs the computers. You should be mad at the Aristocracy that is abusing you through those computers.

    I should also add that your misplace anger is not an accident

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    1. Re:Your rage is directed at the wrong place by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      you're made at the barely-more-than-min-wage drone that runs the computers.

      They make a lot more than minimum wage. Prior to 9/11 the security was run by the airlines. But in the aftermath they were replaced by unionized government employees earning nearly twice as much. Many tests have shown that there was no increase in effectiveness at detecting prohibited items, despite the slower process and newer equipment.

  6. On one hand... by Arzaboa · · Score: 2

    On one hand, this is great, because it will save time. On the other hand, it seems to be the inevitable march of being tracked and recorded everywhere one goes.

    On one hand, no one seems to care that they can already be pinpointed to a 100 foot spot on the planet. On the other hand, it makes it much easier to find the criminals.

    On one hand, if I'm not breaking the law, it shouldn't matter. On the other hand, the US has the largest prison population on the planet.

    On one hand, all this data is too much for any human to sort through. On the other hand, sic some AI bots on it and we can correlate, extrapolate and predict what people may or may not do.

    On one hand, most people have done something they shouldn't have done. On the other hand, every person can be identified, and taught a lesson by the state for any past, or future transgressions.

    On one hand, the technology to ID people will help things run smooth. On the other hand, we know that someone is creating an alert to notify the man, that we are back in town.

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    1. Re:On one hand... by Sebby · · Score: 2

      On one hand, the TSA are supposedly providing a safety service. In the other hand, they've got your balls.

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    2. Re:On one hand... by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      Totalitarian states often have very low crime rates. The criminals all have jobs or have been exiled. The only crimes are committed by regime officials, who are obviously not subject to their own repressive laws.

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  7. That excuse didn't work a the Nürnberg trials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And "I only followed orders." also doesn't work now. I'm German, by the way. Our history classes in school are 90% "Look at this horrible shit we did. Never do that shit again, cause and this is why.”

    "I gotta pay the bills" isn't an excuse to break in and steal somebody's money either. Let alone do full-on totalitarian state terrorism. Doesn't matter if somebody told you to do it, now does it?

    Let's be very clear: I don't expect you to risk your life by openly fighting the oppressors. But: If you work for the Gestapo, err, TSA, argue for the TSA, support the TSA, or otherwise enable the TSA, you're a traitor.

    Frankly, the most scary part, to me, is that the USA does not have anyone strong that could bring it to its knees, like Germany had Russia, the UK, the French Resistance and the USA, once it goes full goose stepping. Who's gonna help us? Overweight US citizens with silly hand guns? Aliens? The Russians and China? Don't make me laug^Wcry.

  8. Internal passport, please, Comrade by davecb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Most countries do not have exit controls. Those that do aren't a good place to love.

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  9. Re:Quit yer bellyachin'!! by jonwil · · Score: 2

    Except that actually finding a politician you can vote for who wants to get rid of all this crap AND has a snowballs chance in hell of actually being elected is nearly impossible.

  10. Re: Think of the criminals that get found by mSparks43 · · Score: 2

    eh?
    facial recognition wont help with that, any more than photo id. in fact computers are even less reliable at recognising faces than people.

  11. Re:On one hand...Except it Won't by I75BJC · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "On one hand, this is great, because it will save time." Facial Recognition Scanning tests have Added Time to inspection lines thus Far. This has been in the news (and maybe /., too). The TSA is complaining to the Airlines that they, the Airlines, want on-time departures and will stop facial scanning in order to achieve on-time departures. Whereas, the TSA wants the Airlines to delay all flights until every passenger is face-scanned. It is a clusterfuck on a Grand Scale. Hasn't everything the TSA attempted to do (to protect) failed miserably? What evidence that the TSA will get face-scanning correct?

  12. The terrorists won by astrofurter · · Score: 2

    President Geedub Boosh said, "they hate us because of our freedom". Well, we sure fixed that!

  13. Re:Why is ID important? by terrycarlino · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There's a bigger picture here. The U.S. anti-terrorist groups aren't just interested in preventing a terrorist taking down the plane they're flying on. They want to catch them on the way into the country, and while they're traveling the country, on their way to non-aircraft internal terror attacks. The major nightmare for federal anti-terrorist forces is a terror attack at someplace like Mall of the Americas or Disney World.

    Such an attack has never happened, but the big fear is an attack in such a venue will cause people to stop frequenting such places, which would result in major losses for the corporations that own them.

    It's why the TSA security theater exists in the first place. The airlines were terrified that people would stop flying, so the government set up TSA, not to make it safer to fly, because statistically terror attacks are an insignificant danger to any specific passenger, but to make people think it was safer to fly, so they would keep flying.

    Like most things the government does they've ham handed it up and are now actually driving people away from flying. Luckily for the airlines they have more than enough business because some people have to fly or just cancel their trip entirely. Also now there is a whole generation who has never experienced reasonable airline security practices, so don't actually realize how bad it is.

    When the terror groups eventually fizzle out, like the anarchists of the late 19th/early 20th century did, the U.S. government won't know how to respond to it. Of course they will fizzle out. Terrorism in the middle east is pay-rolled by petrodollars. When that finally runs out Islamic terrorism will go the way of the Paris Commune.

  14. Re:Quit yer bellyachin'!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Private jets are immune to the TSA?

    So all we need then, is for the airline to be organized a little differently. You don't buy a "ticket", you buy "a share" in a temporary airline that exists for the duration of the trip. So, the passengers really own the plane - it is a private jet. The jet is bought from a mother company (ordinary airline, or plane holding company), with money loaned from the same mother company. Personell & ground services are rented from the same place. When the plane lands, they default on the loan and give the plane back instead. The temporary airline is then bankrupt and dissolves. The passengers thus lost their fake investment, but they got moved to their destination for a normal price and is happy with that. For the hassle-free return trip, you buy a share in another temporary airline company . . .

  15. Re: That excuse didn't work a the Nürnberg tr by stealth_finger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I feel for your country. With over 20% of the next generation not being german you may soon be bred out of your own country. Do Thank Merkel for that.

    It's happening here too. They say "Australia gives people a go". That's correct. Australians do. Soon there won't be many of us left. 5% indian and growing. Getting to 5% muslim (some crossover with Indian there) etc. Come back in 3 generations and you may be hard pressed to find an aussie.

    I'm sure there's a whole bunch of aboriginals just waiting for you to cry on their shoulders.

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  16. Simple Answer: Drive by BrendaEM · · Score: 2

    You also vote with your Dollars. Vote against it.
    The truth is, most sighted people could check the ID. Obviously, they are going to use this to scan everyone. Just don't go, but call your local airline and tell them exactly why. Then it will change.

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  17. Re:On one hand...Except it Won't by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    Hasn't everything the TSA attempted to do (to protect) failed miserably?

    That's not what the TSA is for. The TSA is there to frighten Americans and employ deplorables. (Nobody else would be willing to molest air passengers for money.) It's succeeding brilliantly at both of those things. Actually preventing terror attacks is counterproductive if your primary goal is to control the sheeple so you can shear them occasionally.

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