Suspicious Packages Spotlight Vast 'Mail Cover' Postal Surveillance System (fastcompany.com)

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Suspicious Packages Spotlight Vast 'Mail Cover' Postal Surveillance System (fastcompany.com)

Posted by msmash on Friday October 26, 2018 @04:43AM from the closer-look dept.

tedlistens writes: As law enforcement investigates possible mail bombs sent to prominent Democratic Party figures and liberal activists, the tools available at their disposal include digital images and delivery metadata commonly associated with mail sent in the United States. The U.S. Postal Service regularly photographs the front and back of every piece of U.S. mail, or about 150 billion parcels, envelopes, and postcards every year. A longstanding practice known as the "mail cover" program enables law enforcement to obtain address information and images of the outsides of mail as part of an investigation without the need for a warrant through the Postal Inspection Service, the U.S. Postal Service's policing arm.

According to a report from CBS News, authorities are currently using "data analytics" to spot similar packages to those identified as containing bombs. Images of packages shared with the press show a common return address, using the misspelled name of Representative and former Democratic National Committee chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz. The Postal Inspection Service doesn't generally comment on its investigative techniques. As part of the mail cover program, mail is routinely digitally photographed as part of the sorting process and even available for recipients to digitally preview in some areas. Apart from threats like bombs, the department says its main focus is on mail theft, fraud, and narcotics cases.

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Uh, no shit? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 04:52 · Score: 0

The U.S. Postal Service regularly photographs the front and back of every piece of U.S. mail
Yea, you can sign up to have them email you images of any postal mail you're going to receive that day. It's not a secret.
1. Re: Uh, no shit? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 11:40 · Score: 0
  
  Not every piece, jackass. Just pieces that are automatically processed
Old News by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 04:53 · Score: 0

Somehow made relevant again by new scare. We already read all these articles when the bomb was sent to Obama in a framing attempt.
It's just metadata! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 04:54 · Score: 1

What, you thought metadata collection only applied to digital communication?
1. Re:It's just metadata! by Bradmont · 2018-10-26 05:07 · Score: 2
  
  Is it just metadata if they photograph a postcard?
2. Re:It's just metadata! by pz · 2018-10-26 06:29 · Score: 2
  
  The exterior of all mail is considered to be public information, including post-cards. There is no expectation of privacy.
  Want to write a post-card without making the contents public? Put it in an envelope, simple as that.
  
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USPS offers a service to "preview" your daily mail by turp182 · 2018-10-26 04:54 · Score: 4, Informative

It's called Informed Delivery. They email you images of what's arriving that day.
https://informeddelivery.usps....
My wife signed up for it, it's sort of creepy and exciting (at first).
I would assume they image everything (at least letter sized) as part of sorting.

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Not news, just another service by jfdavis668 · 2018-10-26 04:55 · Score: 1

The postal service offers "Informed Delivery" where you can see your mail before you pick it up. From their web site: "Digitally preview your mail and manage your packages scheduled to arrive soon! Informed Delivery allows you to view greyscale images of the exterior, address side of letter-sized mailpieces and track packages in one convenient location."
1. Re:Not news, just another service by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:34 · Score: 0
  
  the surveillance operation existed for many years before the "service" was offered
2. Re:Not news, just another service by Theaetetus · 2018-10-26 06:21 · Score: 1
  
  The postal service offers "Informed Delivery" where you can see your mail before you pick it up. From their web site: "Digitally preview your mail and manage your packages scheduled to arrive soon! Informed Delivery allows you to view greyscale images of the exterior, address side of letter-sized mailpieces and track packages in one convenient location."
  The nice extension to this would be if you could mark stuff as junk, and the post office would then dump it rather than delivering it to your house.
How did it work, I wonder? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 04:55 · Score: 0, Informative

All of the photos of the packages show absolutely no post marks, barcodes, cancelled postage.. Nothing.
So they say they were delivered by courier.. But couriers wont take packages with postage on them, and again.. .No shipping labels, no barcode.
So they say they were hand delivered. This guy drove up and down the coast and delivered all the packages within a few hours of each other?
How the fuck is this supposed to work.
Should I believe this goofball had a whole team working with him?
They said one package couldnt be delivered, so it was sent back to the return address.. And yet, NO FUCKING POSTMARKS ON THE PACKAGE.
None of the packages shown have ever been in the USPS system, nor Fedex, UPS, etc, etc..
What the fuck?
1. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:02 · Score: 0
  
  Don't agitate the sheep! Let the MSM to (((their))) thing.
2. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:09 · Score: 1
  
  And also, they are in plain manilla envelopes, not shipping envelopes.
  Go get a regular yellow envelope, put a "thing" in it, like an old ethernet card or whatever. Try to handle the envelope without it ripping.
  Anyways
  COOL CLOCK CESAR!!!!!
3. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by Oswald+McWeany · 2018-10-26 05:15 · Score: 1, Informative
  
  All of the photos of the packages show absolutely no post marks, barcodes, cancelled postage.. Nothing.
  So they say they were delivered by courier.. But couriers wont take packages with postage on them, and again.. .No shipping labels, no barcode.
  So they say they were hand delivered. This guy drove up and down the coast and delivered all the packages within a few hours of each other?
  How the fuck is this supposed to work.
  Should I believe this goofball had a whole team working with him?
  They said one package couldnt be delivered, so it was sent back to the return address.. And yet, NO FUCKING POSTMARKS ON THE PACKAGE.
  None of the packages shown have ever been in the USPS system, nor Fedex, UPS, etc, etc..
  What the fuck?
  A little common sense reveals your hoax claim to be ridiculous.
  If what you say is true, the USPS and FBI have to be in on this plot. Do you think two organizations of that size could keep this quiet if it was a hoax. Not everyone at USPS or FBI is vehemently anti-republican so this would leak. Use common sense before you post nonsense.
  
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4. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:31 · Score: 0
  
  I didn't say anything about "every USPS and FBI employee" being in on a plot.
  A little more common sense would tell you they are all federal employees and legally bound not to disclose what happens at their workplaces.
  So why not address what I actually said? You wont. You glow in the dark.
5. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by fahrbot-bot · 2018-10-26 05:32 · Score: 2
  
  All of the photos of the packages show absolutely no post marks, barcodes, cancelled postage..
  [ ... blather deleted ... ]
  None of the packages shown have ever been in the USPS system, nor Fedex, UPS, etc, etc..
  What the fuck?
  The fuck is that you're an uninformed idiot.
  From Fact Check: 'Canceled Stamp' Conspiracy (a conservative opinion site, BTW):
  
  Lastly, the premise that if a stamp is not canceled it was therefore not mailed through the USPS is incorrect. As the executive director of the American Philatelic Society, Scott English, tells TWS Fact Check, “It is possible for mail to go through the mail without being cancelled by the USPS. There are still hand-stamped packages and in other cases, a postal clerk will use a magic marker to draw a line through stamps. There is no standard throughout the country.”
  
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6. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:40 · Score: 0
  
  Did you see the van with the back windows platered over with stickers?
  That van would not get a block before being pulled over and over and over again.
  But as to your larger sense... look how few FBI/DoJ/DoS ewmployees it took to attempt to subvert a duly elected president.
  Look how few people it took to create the 'insurance policy'.
  Look how since 2001 the FBI has created virtually every terrorist group and plot they claim fame to halting.
  Obviously the bombs were not even worthy of being movie props, obvious hoax.
  WE already know the USPS detects and intercepts explosives sent through the system. You can assume any bomb looking device you get is inert.
7. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by sexconker · 2018-10-26 06:12 · Score: 1
  
  All of the photos of the packages show absolutely no post marks, barcodes, cancelled postage..
  [ ... blather deleted ... ]
  None of the packages shown have ever been in the USPS system, nor Fedex, UPS, etc, etc..
  What the fuck?
  The fuck is that you're an uninformed idiot.
  From Fact Check: 'Canceled Stamp' Conspiracy (a conservative opinion site, BTW):
  
  Lastly, the premise that if a stamp is not canceled it was therefore not mailed through the USPS is incorrect. As the executive director of the American Philatelic Society, Scott English, tells TWS Fact Check, “It is possible for mail to go through the mail without being cancelled by the USPS. There are still hand-stamped packages and in other cases, a postal clerk will use a magic marker to draw a line through stamps. There is no standard throughout the country.”
  You're a retard. That's simply stating that sometimes there's a fuckup and the worker PHYSICALLY MISSES when cancelling or FORGETS to cancel.
  Do you actually believe that somehow happened for all of these packages, at every point along the delivery?
8. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 06:14 · Score: 0
  
  [different AC] While it's likely that publicly available photos only represent a small subset of the actual packages that were sent (i.e. many did go though the mail with postmarks) there's still the comment in the GP post that your link didn't address, viz. why would a courier deliver a package with stamps on it and not the courier company's labeling system? The link also raised a strawman in that no one has stated that a magic marker line through the stamps (also not visible in the photos) wouldn't be considered a cancellation.
9. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by Oswald+McWeany · 2018-10-26 06:26 · Score: 1
  
  I didn't say anything about "every USPS and FBI employee" being in on a plot.
  A little more common sense would tell you they are all federal employees and legally bound not to disclose what happens at their workplaces.
  So why not address what I actually said? You wont. You glow in the dark.
  They would have to be in on the plot because any USPS worker could see what you saw and announce it. And the FBI, something as big as that would have to be quite extensively spread.
  For this to be a hoax you would literally have to have the entire USPS onboard not to announce the "no stamping thing" and out it as a hoax... and probably dozens of FBI agents. Like most conspiracy theories- you'd have to be nuts to believe it.
  
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10. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by fahrbot-bot · 2018-10-26 06:36 · Score: 1
  
  Those were examples. The operative phrase was, "It is possible for mail to go through the mail without being cancelled by the USPS." More to the point, I have actually received stamped mail that has no cancellation marks. Furthermore, the reports are that the packages, or majority, were courier / hand delivered. Don't really know why you're so cranked up, unless you're a crank that believes the conspiracy nonsense.
  
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11. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 06:48 · Score: 0
  
  Do you see any hand stamps or magic marker lines on these packages?
12. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by eaglesrule · 2018-10-26 07:26 · Score: 1
  
  It is reasonable to ask pertinent questions and expect to receive pertinent answers for a matter of this importance.
  "If you don't believe the prevailing media narrative unquestioningly you must be a ridiculous conspiracy theorist" is an answer only an NPC could accept.
13. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:39 · Score: 0
  
  Again the NPC cannot deviate from its script. It cannot address how these were mailed without being stamped as shown by actual photographs of the envelopes and the fake bombs.
14. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by sexconker · 2018-10-26 07:39 · Score: 0
  
  They were examples intended to explain away the obvious signs that this is all fake.
  Yes, something can be delivered without the postage being canceled. It's very, rare. It's also much rarer for something to have NO postage marks at all. To suggest that these packages could have gone through the USPS in any normal fashion is bullshit. If we had 1, maybe. 2? There's an outside chance. But all of these? Fuck off.
  As for hand delivering, nope. The narrative is that this was a lone, right-wing nut with a crazy van. He COULDN'T hand deliver all of these.
  As for couriers, nope. They generally won't take shit with postage, generally slap on their own tracking tags, generally won't take a bunch of shady looking packages from a dude with an obviously fake return address targeting a bunch of political people, etc.
  This is all bullshit, and it's plain as day.
15. Re: How did it work, I wonder? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:42 · Score: 0
  
  The three million Mexican Jew Muslims that voted for Hilary and were never caught by that genious planner's brilliant plan, btw she is dumb, planted the bombs to create a false flag operation at the behest of the lizard queen that rules the icewall that keeps the oceans from falling off the edge if the flat earth. It's so obvious, only a libtard with their "facts" and "science" and blind faith religion based on "empirical data" can't see it!
  #MAGA
16. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by PPH · 2018-10-26 07:51 · Score: 1
  
  As for couriers, nope. They generally won't take shit with postage
  There exists a courier business that picks up and drops off US mail for business clients at the local post office. I see them all the time. They show up with a plastic tub full of mail and walk it up to the commercial service window. And they have keys to a half dozen PO Boxes to pick up clients' mail.
  It's possible that Sayoc hired one of these people to drop packages off. Hence the reference to a courier. And I imagine that postal workers drop their guard when they see the same guy they do every day hauling in a bunch of packages. "Sure Bob. Just pile them up in the corner and we'll get to them when we can."
  
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17. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by Etcetera · 2018-10-26 08:05 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  Did you see the van with the back windows platered over with stickers?
  That van would not get a block before being pulled over and over and over again.
  You seriously underestimate the amount of crazy shit that exists on a day to day basis in Florida.
  
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18. Re: How did it work, I wonder? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 08:17 · Score: 0
  
  Citation needed. You've provided nothing but a bunch of hot air. Trumptard.
19. Re: How did it work, I wonder? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 08:31 · Score: 0
  
  Pictures of at least five of the devices that were sent along with the envelopes. This is directly from a NPC source you should be familiar with.
  https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/26/politics/everything-we-know-mail-bombs/index.html
20. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 08:51 · Score: 0
  
  Isn't a clock the wrong type of device for triggering a mail bomb?
21. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by Oswald+McWeany · 2018-10-26 09:21 · Score: 1
  
  "NPC"? Is that supposed to be some insult to dehumanize victims to make it OK to send them bombs?
  
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  "That's the way to do it" - Punch
22. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:36 · Score: 0
  
  Holy faking cruch on a Christ. I've seen dizzying attempts to convince people that up is down or red is green, but the MAGAbomber brings out the desperation it seems.
23. Re: How did it work, I wonder? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:45 · Score: 0
  
  Yes, you Iranian bot.
24. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 10:09 · Score: 0
  
  The whole story is bullshit that's supposed to make you feel sorry for those poor, poor democrat victims and then vote for them next month.
  The only problem with this plan is that it's so obviously bullshit, that the only people stupid enough to believe it are people who ALREADY VOTE DEMOCRAT!
25. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 10:37 · Score: 0
  
  Yes, something can be delivered without the postage being canceled. It's very, rare. It's also much rarer for something to have NO postage marks at all. To suggest that these packages could have gone through the USPS in any normal fashion is bullshit. If we had 1, maybe. 2? There's an outside chance. But all of these? Fuck off.
  If the suspect mailed all of them at the same time and place, then the chances of all of them not being stamped would be close to the chance of just one mail item not being stamped.
26. Re:How did it work, I wonder? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 11:09 · Score: 0
  
  Automated equipment has a problem with lumpy packages?
USPS Informed Delivery - Kinda handy, actually by Kevoco · 2018-10-26 04:59 · Score: 5, Informative

Go to informeddelivery.usps.com
Select "Sign Up For Free."
1. Re:USPS Informed Delivery - Kinda handy, actually by ksw_92 · 2018-10-26 07:25 · Score: 2
  
  OK, I thought I've never, ever see this happen but it looks like that site's slashdotted now. It's about as unlikely an occurrence as Sears.com melting down on Black Friday.
2. Re: USPS Informed Delivery - Kinda handy, actually by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 08:52 · Score: 1
  
  I can believe that the graybeards on slashdot can bring down a website devoted to that favorite of old people, snail mail, definitely!
3. Re: USPS Informed Delivery - Kinda handy, actually by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:32 · Score: 0
  
  He's questioning the agenda we're trying to ram down the gullible population's throats! Quick, call him a russian bot!
  Oh wait, msnash is already on it. Phew. Thought for a second the rubes might have their propaganda bubble threatened.
4. Re:USPS Informed Delivery - Kinda handy, actually by arglebargle_xiv · 2018-10-26 14:22 · Score: 2
  
  It surprises me that anyone is surprised by this. The USPS does more tracking of everything imaginable than Google, it's nearly impossible to send something of any real size anonymously. Which also surprises me that the guy sending the bombs wasn't aware of this.
  Mind you someone doing what he did clearly wasn't in any rational state of mind, so I guess not knowing you'd get caught almost immediately comes with that.
5. Re: USPS Informed Delivery - Kinda handy, actually by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-27 00:27 · Score: 0
  
  I thought snail mail war a favourite of those youngsters who want to receive all their groceries to their parent's basement, not the old farts who still know hot to go shopping out in the analogue wild? ;-P
6. Re:USPS Informed Delivery - Kinda handy, actually by Outta_the_way_peck! · 2018-10-29 03:36 · Score: 1
  
  The couldn't spell (not just the names, but "Florid" too) and you expect him to know this?
Re:USPS offers a service to "preview" your daily m by TheCastro1689 · 2018-10-26 05:02 · Score: 1

My address is not available for this service...what are they hiding?
Re:I was wondering when /. would find an excuse .. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:02 · Score: 1

Also none of these packages shown have ever been in the postal system, or any other tracking system. They would have to have been placed in various mailrooms by hand.
MAGA Bomber!!! by bit+trollent · 2018-10-26 05:02 · Score: 4, Insightful

Surprising nobody, the person sending bombs to Democratic politicians, supporters, and media organizations is a virulently pro-Trump terrorist.
His van is covered in pro-Trump stickers, along with stickers of Democrats with gun targets on their faces.
The coverings of the terrorist's van refer to Trump's stated enemy list as well as memes shared by right wing republicans nationwide.
Is it too much to ask that Trump stop encouraging his supporters to violently attack reporters and Democrats?
1. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by cascadingstylesheet · 2018-10-26 05:09 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Surprising nobody, the person sending bombs to Democratic politicians, supporters, and media organizations is a virulently pro-Trump terrorist.
  His van is covered in pro-Trump stickers, along with stickers of Democrats with gun targets on their faces.
  The coverings of the terrorist's van refer to Trump's stated enemy list as well as memes shared by right wing republicans nationwide.
  Is it too much to ask that Trump stop encouraging his supporters to violently attack reporters and Democrats?
  Real bullets that actually work were shot at Republican lawmakers having a ball game. One was seriously wounded.
  Was that Democrats' fault? Or was it just a lone nut?
2. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:09 · Score: 0
  
  Surprising nobody, the person sending bombs to Democratic politicians, supporters, and media organizations is a virulently pro-Trump terrorist.
  His van is covered in pro-Trump stickers, along with stickers of Democrats with gun targets on their faces.
  The coverings of the terrorist's van refer to Trump's stated enemy list as well as memes shared by right wing republicans nationwide.
  Is it too much to ask that Trump stop encouraging his supporters to violently attack reporters and Democrats?
  Bit obvious that it was a republican. Only a republican could try building 8 bombs and fail to make a single one of them work.
3. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:12 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Democrats don't share pictures of republicans with gun targets on their face.
  Republicans share pictures of democrats (including this weeks' bombing targets) with gun targets painted on their face.
  So yes, when a lunatic does something that goes contrary to everything Dems stand for it's not Democrats fault. When a republican puts violent right wing memes spread by Trump and prominent republicans into action they deserve the blame.
4. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:14 · Score: 0
  
  Is it too much to look beyond the sheep's clothing and see the wolf underneath?
  captcha: distorts
5. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:15 · Score: 0
  
  "Is it too much to ask that Trump stop encouraging his supporters to violently attack reporters and Democrats?"
  Is calling it a despicable act and condemning it enough? Because that's what Trump did.
6. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:18 · Score: 0
  
  He's probably a Trump University dropout.
7. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:22 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Oh no! My side had bombs sent to them.
  Well, MY side was shot at! That's a hundred times worse.
  My side, your side. Republicans. Democrats. Don't you think that's how we ended up where we are right now?
  Repeat after me: "It is a tragedy when ANYONE is threatened or attacked and we, as American Citizens, should be appalled and angered every single time any violence happens to anyone. Everyone should feel safe TO SPEAK their beliefs and TO HEAR OTHERS speak their beliefs. No exceptions."
8. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:24 · Score: 0
  
  That shooter didn't care he just wanted to shoot someone. This bomber is after people who criticize Trump - and Trump instigated this. He is after all in favor of violence against journalists and others. Ya know, he's the Mr. Secondition Amendment solution.
9. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:27 · Score: 1, Insightful
  
  The Democrats didn't encourage the potential bombings to happen while Trump is continuously encourages violent behavior. Remember Palin and the crosshair bullshit which led to Gifford getting shot in the head? The Republicans have a long history of inciting violence. However don't worry, cascadingstylesheet, none of this will cost the Republicans any seats in the upcoming elections, but the Dems are a bunch of unimaginative pansies who are crappy at the art of theatrics to rile up their base like the way the Republicans can.
10. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:30 · Score: 0, Informative
  
  The FBI needs to start taking right-wing terrorism seriously. These people need to be put on watch lists and have a lot more scrutiny applied. This guys public twitter feed will make your brain bleed.
11. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:30 · Score: 0
  
  Democrats say that Hispanics can't be controlled, impossible to deport them, impossible to stop them at the border, so why are you asking something of Trump? Unless it's to ask Trump to release him from prison, since he couldn't help himself
12. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:35 · Score: 0
  
  In other words Republicans are violent retards so you resort to petty racism to defend the indefensible.
  Get the fuck out, traitors.
13. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:43 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  When was the last time a Democrat running for any office - let alone the Presidency - stood in the middle of a crowded stadium and offered up bail money for anyone arrested being violent in their name, you intellectually dishonest shithead?
14. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:50 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  I have seen democrats share pictures with targets on the faces of their political opponents. Hell, one of the "bomb" targets was telling her supporters to harass any members of the Cabinet they see out in public. Another one was recorded telling supporters "when they go low, we kick them".
  
  What exactly is "everything Dems stand for"? It seems these days they're more than happy to encourage folks to "see a nazi, punch a nazi".... and then label all their opponents as nazis.
15. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Oswald+McWeany · 2018-10-26 05:51 · Score: 1, Funny
  
  Real bullets that actually work were shot at Republican lawmakers having a ball game. One was seriously wounded.
  Was that Democrats' fault? Or was it just a lone nut?
  To me, as an independent, this says- followers of both main parties are deranged idiots- but the Democrats are better at pulling off their objectives.
  
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  "That's the way to do it" - Punch
16. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:54 · Score: 1, Informative
  
  Crazy person attacks Republican Congresspeople: blame the crazy.
  Crazy person sends bombs to Democrats: blame the Republicans.
  Nancy Pelosi: “How DARE anyone blame us for the actions of one mentally sick individual.”
17. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:56 · Score: 0
  
  Orange man BAD!!!
18. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by jythie · 2018-10-26 06:00 · Score: 0, Troll
  
  Taking right wing terrorism seriously hurts the feelings of right wing terrorist apologists and supporters, and that is the true terrorism!
19. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 06:08 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  "Palin and the crosshair bullshit" led to Gifford being shot in the head by someone who started planning *years* before the crosshair bullshit? Amazing!
  
  https://www.washingtonpost.com...
20. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 06:15 · Score: 0
  
  President GOOD!!!
21. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by hduff · 2018-10-26 06:25 · Score: 0
  
  Is it too much to ask that Trump stop encouraging his supporters to violently attack reporters and Democrats?
  Real bullets that actually work were shot at Republican lawmakers having a ball game. One was seriously wounded.
  Was that Democrats' fault? Or was it just a lone nut?
  Can you cite elected Democrats who have advocated, supported or encouraged violence against Republicans since Donald Trump was elected? Please share.
  
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  "I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it." : Dogbert
22. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 06:37 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Correct - Democrats create "art" with a decapitated Trump head instead. "Art" makes it cool.
  Democrats also go out and violently protest, fighting police, damaging public property, and bloodying people who wear MAGA hats. But that's just because they're so passionate about freedom and democracy and stuff.
  Clearly there's a single "good" team in all of this.
23. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by jd · 2018-10-26 06:39 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  That was a lone nut. We know this because he was not incited. Nobody encouraged him to be violent.
  This guy was incited. Trump has specifically talked of killing people, particularly opponents. The conspiracy theories he referenced were ones promoted by Trump-backed media outlets.
  You are entitled to question which incitement made the difference, who is ultimately responsible for driving him over the edge. What you aren't entitled to do is invent your own set of facts.
  If you do not see any difference between the cases, I can't help you.
  
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  It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
24. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 06:43 · Score: 1
  
  How is making a graphic with a target on someone not already threatening? As other posters have said, one side is worse about this than the other. Your nice statement is double-speak. No, you should not feel safe to speak a belief that someone else should be attacked with extrajudicial violence.
25. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 06:49 · Score: 1
  
  Oh no, inanimate objects! That's much worse than you people feeling the need for speed towards a crowd of protesters and ganging up half-a-dozen strong on a black kid curled up on the ground. Oh, and mailing out a dozen bombs, lets not forget that. And then there was the time one of your guys blew himself up in Texas making more bombs, but on the bright side at least he killed the bad guy.
26. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by jd · 2018-10-26 06:49 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Terrorising? Sorry, no. That is not enough. This was a terrorist attack. A term he is keen on using when his supporters are at risk.
  He is the President of the whole country or none of it. It is not enough until he calls it for what it is.
  I don't expect him to admit to lying when he said earlier that it was a false flag, when he would have already been informed it wasn't. I don't think he has the guts. He can't do anything about that.
  Letting him slide on diminishing and belittling terms. No.
  And I expect any American to insist he calls it for what it is, whatever side they are on. One America, indivisible, cannot allow the belittling of an attrocity.
  The same is true of all attacks on all sides. I am fully aware of the attack some time ago on a Republican and his friends. That, too, was a terrorist attack. Not terrorizing, not less than. Said so then, will repeat so now.
  Those Republicans who have said it was a terrorist attack, good for you. You've courage and decency.
  All I ask is for false flag theorists and "terrorizing" justifiers to do the decent thing. Call it for what it is.
  
  --
  It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
27. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by jd · 2018-10-26 06:52 · Score: 1
  
  Don't know any Democrat who has said any of that. Can you name names and offer compelling evidence?
  An impartial study showing immigration by Hispanics increases under Democrat governance would suffice.
  
  --
  It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
28. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 06:52 · Score: 1
  
  The thread is about:
  > Democrats don't share pictures of republicans with gun targets on their face
  You can't keep track of the simplest concepts in front of your face, which makes other libtards look bad. Maybe the internet isn't for you.
29. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 06:54 · Score: 1, Insightful
  
  First of all, fuck your ableism.
  Second, the person who attacked Republicans did so IN SPITE of the Democrats' non-violent ideals, whereas the person who sent these bombs did so BECAUSE of Trump's constant inciting and condoning of violence.
  It's always the same, Democrats tell you that maybe you shouldn't be so racist, you respond with violence. It's just like Hillary said, there's no room for civility anymore, we aren't dealing with rational people, we are dealing with deranged animals who want to destroy society because they're angry that suddenly they have to share their toys with women and people of color.
30. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 06:56 · Score: 0
  
  Generally, Democrats are sneakier with their shenanigans. For example, Hillary Clinton compared Republicans to al-Qaida and the Taliban, declaring “Now, extreme views on women, we expect that from some of the terrorist groups, we expect that from people who don’t want to live in the modern world, but it’s a little hard to take from Republicans”
  
  Now, she didn't *explicitly* say that Republicans should be hunted down and killed like al-Qaida and the Taliban... But what other implication are you supposed to draw? That they should be thrown in the prison at Guantánamo?
31. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 06:58 · Score: 0
  
  Why didn't any Republicans shoot back?
  I thought Republicans were all about defending themselves; with their guns & other BS.
32. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:00 · Score: 0
  
  So long as you ignore the rappers, comedians, NYT short stories and Broadway shows.
33. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:08 · Score: 0
  
  Actually the FBI needs to be taking all domestic terrorism seriously, and that includes those who are destroying congressional offices, standing at intersections dressed in masks attacking cars, punching people in the back of the head, driving cars into crowds --- ALL of it
34. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:09 · Score: 1
  
  Why the fuck should I have to listen to nazis and white supremacists?
  My friend, I think you are confused. I know it is a common misconception, but "everyone should feel safe [...] to hear others speak" is not the same as saying "everyone should be forced to hear others speak".
  
  If you do not wish to listen to nazis, that is fine, you do not have to. But I for one do want to. Not because I believe in their statements, but because I want to know who the asshats are.
35. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by werepants · 2018-10-26 07:09 · Score: 1
  
  Now, she didn't *explicitly* say that Republicans should be hunted down and killed like al-Qaida and the Taliban... But what other implication are you supposed to draw? That they should be thrown in the prison at Guantánamo?
  Hillary was using a rhetorical technique of equivalence there to make her opponents seem like backward fundamentalists. Republicans are actively and explicitly advocating for Democrats to be sent to guantanamo - just google it on Infowars. It's completely bonkers.
36. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:11 · Score: 1
  
  Democrat here with a FOID card. Because not all Republicans are the insane parody Democrats try to make them out to be. I have many Republican friends who support the right to bear arms but who do not and will not ever own guns. And I have Democrat friends who want stricter gun ownership or flat out banning of the sale of guns any and everywhere in the US, but who also carry around tazers and friggin ice picks (of all things, and no, I don't understand why them and not pepper spray for example).
  The world is a complex place. A person generally figures that out very quickly once they've removed their heads from their backsides and had a look around in the world outside political one-upsmanship. ffs
37. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:11 · Score: 0
  
  But what other implication are you supposed to draw?
  That she was simply calling them bad? Honestly, if that's the best "proof" you have that democrats are calling for violence against republicans, then you've already lost the debate.
38. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:15 · Score: 0
  
  Maxine Waters
  Next.
39. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:17 · Score: 0
  
  If you lived in a free state you would not need a FLOP or any other card to have a natural right
40. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:36 · Score: 0
  
  Wait, what do you mean "you people"?
41. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Plumpaquatsch · 2018-10-26 07:37 · Score: 1
  
  "Is it too much to ask that Trump stop encouraging his supporters to violently attack reporters and Democrats?"
  Is calling it a despicable act and condemning it enough? Because that's what Trump did.
  Was that before or after he riled up chants to lock up Soros?
  
  --
  Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
42. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:42 · Score: 0
  
  Then every instance of Republicans being harassed in public is the fault of Maxine Waters, Hillary Clinton, and CNN.
43. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:57 · Score: 0
  
  Facts.
44. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 08:09 · Score: 0
  
  LOL. If you think that is on the same level as trump you must be a trumptard.
  She was advocating For people to speak their minds to their representatives. She wasn't calling for violence you cuck. Unless somehow words are violent, which your party vehemently denies.
45. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 08:09 · Score: 0
  
  Orange man BAD!!!
  Orange Man very BAD!!!!
46. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 08:10 · Score: 0
  
  Show us where they incited violence.
  And no Maxine didn't incite violence. Saying you should tell your representatives how you feel isn't violence. It's called living in a democracy you cuck.
  Also what physical threats did Hillary tell Democrat's to commit? Please cite them.
  None of those people advocated committing violence against people. NONE of them.
47. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 08:13 · Score: 0
  
  Facts. X100
48. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 08:29 · Score: 0
  
  Stop bullying.
49. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 08:44 · Score: 0
  
  Trump Actually got sued by someone who took him up on the offer. What a chump.
50. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:03 · Score: 1
  
  Now, she didn't *explicitly* say that Republicans should be hunted down and killed like al-Qaida and the Taliban... But what other implication are you supposed to draw? That they should be thrown in the prison at Guantánamo?
  It's very obvious she was asking voters not to vote for these Republicans, that's what campaign rallies are supposed to be about, after all. Anything more bloodthirsty is purely in your own mind.
51. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by dcollins117 · 2018-10-26 09:06 · Score: 2
  
  What exactly is "everything Dems stand for"?
  I'll field this one. I'm independent but have only voted for Democratic candidates simply because no one happened to be better.
  The first priority is to institute a check against the lunacy coming out of the White House. This is absolutely essential because Donald Trump doesn't think, he just spouts whatever happens to pop into his deranged brain at the moment, and because he's president, it suddenly becomes policy. Cruel, real life things, like separating children from their families and restricting rights for women and minorities. Perhaps we can curb his use of stochastic terrorism that leads to incidents like the one we are discussing.
  Once that is accomplished, maybe we can focus more on policies that help people instead of actively hurting them. Healthcare for all would be a good start. Certainly that would benefit more people than some inane wall.
52. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:36 · Score: 0
  
  You're a racist. Come here so I can punch your lights out.
  See how that works?
53. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:37 · Score: 0
  
  So I assume, since I don't see it anywhere on any news outlets, that the perpetrator has been identified and was a trump supporter? If that hasn't happened, then this is nothing more than progressive propaganda.
54. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:49 · Score: 0
  
  Move. Leave the country and go to somewhere you think is not "a white supremacist society" and see how great things are on the other side of the fence.
  You won't do it though, because you're a cowardly pussy, just like all those other shit-for-brains leftists who threatened to leave the USA when Trump won and then didn't.
55. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:56 · Score: 0
  
  Nobody with any common sense believes this is anything but another pathetic Democrat false flag ploy to garner sympathy for their dishonest campaign before the elections.
  The whole thing is so childishly produced, too. You'd think with the money these clowns have, they'd put something somewhat believable together, but no. This is what a lifetime of laziness and "no child left behind" results in: shoddy, substandard work that doesn't even merit a laugh.
56. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:59 · Score: 0
  
  But, but, but... It's DIFFERENT when us Democrats do it!!11!
57. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 10:00 · Score: 0
  
  Trump has specifically talked of killing people, particularly opponents.
  Please specifically cite such specific comments. I haven't heard trump specifically talk about *killing* people yet, and am curious as to what you're talking about....
58. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 10:03 · Score: 0
  
  I can't wait to see you useful idiots throw an absolute shit-fit when you lose the midterms next month. People don't believe your shitty lies anymore. They're tired of hearing you whine and cry while you project your crimes on others. They're sick of you constantly playing the victim and pushing identity politics every step of the way.
59. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 10:06 · Score: 0
  
  Quit your whataboutism bullshit.
60. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 10:15 · Score: 0
  
  Every public service dollar that goes to feeding and supporting an illegal alien child is a dollar less for American children in need.
61. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 10:23 · Score: 0
  
  Except you're wrong. Don't you recall not that many months ago the democrat ad with targets on people?
  short fucking memory don't ya.
62. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 11:07 · Score: 0
  
  Those offers were made in the context of defending Trump himself from a hypothetical violent attacker (throwing tomatos, rushing the stage, etc.) Self defense laws also apply to defending *others* from personal injury, so the "violence" in question would've been perfectly legal.
  Meahwhile in reality, Hillary was caught red-handed sending paid instigators to Trump rallies to provoke fights and spawn exactly the kind of "Trump is a violent fascist!!" news articles you've clearly been brainwashed by.
  https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2016/10/17/exclusive-okeefe-video-sting-exposes-bird-dogging-democrats-effort-to-incite-violence-at-trump-rallies/
  https://dailycaller.com/2016/10/18/activist-who-took-credit-for-violent-chicago-protests-was-on-hillarys-payroll/
63. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by bugs2squash · 2018-10-26 12:06 · Score: 1
  
  Surprising nobody, the person sending bombs to Democratic politicians, supporters, and media organizations is a virulently pro-Trump terrorist.
  Apparently it came as a surprise to those who promoted it as a false flag operation or asserted that republicans just don't do this kind of thing
  
  --
  Nullius in verba
64. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 12:32 · Score: 1
  
  >Meahwhile in reality,
  >breitbart.com
  AMAZING.
65. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 13:13 · Score: 0
  
  Tell me again what Trotsky-slut , nibberizing, power-mad DemoRat bitches deserve ?
66. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by reboot246 · 2018-10-26 13:13 · Score: 2
  
  A Democrat held up a fake severed head of Trump. That's a step beyond putting a bullseye on a photo.
  
  And antifa is a non-violent service organization that collects money for orphans, right?
67. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 13:29 · Score: 0
  
  Democrats also shoot republican senators playing baseball but hey republicans are the bad guys so itâ(TM)s ok
68. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 14:12 · Score: 0
  
  All 868 BILLION DOLLARS spent on the US Military is 868 billion dollars that we don't have, isn't spent on citizens, and can't be paid back. Asshole
69. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 14:20 · Score: 0
  
  >FAEK N00Z!!!!1
70. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Plumpaquatsch · 2018-10-26 15:23 · Score: 1
  
  Then every instance of Republicans being harassed in public is the fault of Maxine Waters, Hillary Clinton, and CNN.
  And every instance where a Nazi harasses a Democrat by running them over with their car is Trump's fault.
  But yeah sure, same thing.
  
  --
  Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
71. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 15:33 · Score: 0
  
  I'd love to say you are wrong. I'd love to say that you don't know who I am. But, I am a Slashdot reader and therefore probably white, educated, middle class and suburban.
  I won't deny it.
  My daughter is non-sexual. Oh! I hear you now, saying that it isn't one of the "true" sexual orientations.
  My friend, that is where it starts. Her sexual orientation is true. I don't understand it but I support her. My son is in love with a bi-sexual who actively has a girlfriend, he is friends with a trans-sexual and a heterosexual. I can't make this "right" for my daughter or my son, I can only say they are not wrong.
72. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 15:46 · Score: 0
  
  All white supremacists deserve to be executed slowly and painfully! Yourself included.
73. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 17:03 · Score: 0
  
  Did you feel this way about Democrats/Clinton after the guy who soit up a ball field full of Republicans?
  Clinton/Democrats started this crap with her deplorables comment and calling anyone who doesn't agree with their socialist policies a racist/bigot.
74. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 20:14 · Score: 0
  
  A Democrat held up a fake severed head of Trump. That's a step beyond putting a bullseye on a photo.
  The bullshit thatis circulating in alt-right circles is amazing. But they're not the ones living in a bubble, of course. It's the rest of us.
  /s
  
  And antifa is a non-violent service organization that collects money for orphans, right?
  No, it fights Nazi's. Preferably without violence, but violence is an option if necessary.
75. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 20:19 · Score: 0
  
  Real bullets that actually work were shot at Republican lawmakers having a ball game. One was seriously wounded.
  Was that Democrats' fault? Or was it just a lone nut?
  Depends, did any high profile Democrats call for shooting Republican lawmakers before that?
  This guy literally went by a list of people Trump have pointed out as enemies.
  Or perhaps your shooting is more comparable to that time Giffords was shot in the head?
  Also, 6 people were killed and 19 wounded.
  Democrats have what? Less than 10% of the amount "lone nuts" compared to Republicans, but they also don't have their leaders calling for violence against the other side.
76. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 20:25 · Score: 0
  
  A Democrat held up a fake severed head of Trump. That's a step beyond putting a bullseye on a photo.
  Well, I would say it is about the same and almost identical to what Republicans did with Obama when he became president.
  
  And antifa is a non-violent service organization that collects money for orphans, right?
  Antifa is violent, it is the entire point of the organization. "Meet violence with violence".
  If you want get rid of antifa the solution is simple. Get rid of the neo-nazis and antifa will drop their support and disappear.
  Antifa is a symptom of rising fascism. Treating the symptom without treating the disease isn't a good idea.
77. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-27 00:12 · Score: 0
  
  Only white supremacists? Nobody of other races? Oh, wait, you probably believe only white people can be racist and other such absolute bullshit.
78. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-27 00:26 · Score: 0
  
  Nazis marched in groups of thugs to intimidate people. Antifa does that.
  Nazis routinely physically attacked anyone they disagree with. Antifa does that.
  Nazis would cause violence and then play the victim. Antifa does that.
  Nazis hated people because of who they were and what race they were born as. Antifa does that.
  Nazis used propaganda to demonize anyone they didn't like. Antifa does that.
  Nazis used civil unrest that they manufactured to gain power and silence critics. Antifa does that.
  Nazis believed in strict limits on speech, on how you lived your life, on who was allowed to do business, in gun confiscation, in heavy doses of propaganda designed to make sure they get their way.
  Trump supporters believe in none of that and largely want to be left alone to live their lives in a free society free of external threats, like mass importation of culturally incompatible people who threaten a free society. The most 'American' person I know is a Vietnamese immigrant. That's great. If you come here wanting to be a part of this society that's awesome, and you start out by respecting our laws just as we have to respect the laws of other nations when in their territory. If you come here because you want to take what's ours, you shouldn't be allowed to come here because it destabilizes society and ultimately destroys it. And the left calls us Nazis for believing that.
79. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-27 05:03 · Score: 0
  
  Indeed, it's sad how easily we as humans continue to fall for 'divide and conquer' tactics, despite many examples in history.
80. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-27 06:17 · Score: 0
  
  Everyone should feel safe TO SPEAK their beliefs and TO HEAR OTHERS speak their beliefs. No exceptions."
  Yes, there are exceptions. Anyone who speaks their belief that group XXX should be killed or expelled should not feel safe to do so.
81. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-27 09:32 · Score: 0
  
  Do they teach false equivalences as a course, or do you just pick it up as you go along?
82. Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by fatwilbur · 2018-10-27 21:11 · Score: 1
  
  To call Trump's rhetoric, however over-the-top it usually is, as specifically inciting people to murder others, is as absolutely batshit crazy as the people who believed in pizzagate.
83. Re:MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-27 22:56 · Score: 0
  
  Maxine Waters
scanning does not mean tracking by kiviQr · 2018-10-26 05:04 · Score: 4, Funny

Amazing, they are the only one who cannot find or track my packages but at least the photograph both sides of every letter.
1. Re:scanning does not mean tracking by Anubis+IV · 2018-10-26 10:09 · Score: 1
  
  So, two stories about tracking packages at the USPS:
  1) Earlier this year my wife and I ordered a piece of furniture on eBay (a flat-pack, DIY assembly sort of thing for some cheap storage we needed). The furniture didn't arrive on time, and the seller was unresponsive, so we initiated a dispute ten days after the original delivery date. The day that eBay was set to close the dispute in our favor by default, the seller suddenly posts a tracking number that proves the item was delivered to our ZIP code two days before the guaranteed delivery date.
  So, off to the USPS office we went to sort things out, figuring that someone had misrouted or stolen our package. The guy there was able to pull up the tracking number and quickly discovered that, rather than being delivered to our address, our package had been delivered to a local Cracker Barrel restaurant instead. "Cracker Barrel has our furniture?!", my wife asked incredulously. "Furniture? No. It's a padded envelope from Amazon", came the reply. He flipped his screen around to show us the picture of the package, taken by the postman as it was being delivered to Cracker Barrel. The man in the office was kind enough to print out a copy of that image, which clearly showed a medium-sized padded envelope bearing the tracking number given to eBay by the seller.
  With that printout in hand (as well as the fact that the online tracking information listed the item as being a lightweight package), we were able to successfully appeal the decision and receive a full refund. Oh, but first we had to file a criminal complaint to the FBI, submit proof we had done so to eBay, and then receive notice from eBay that they were only extending the courtesy of a refund to us this one time, but that we'd be on the hook for the payment if anything like this (i.e. someone takes our money without sending us anything) should happen again.
  To say the least, my wife hasn't used eBay ever since (and I've only used it via a credit card so that I can initiate a chargeback if need be), but, man, did the USPS come through for us that time.
  =====
  2) A music store where my wife worked once rented an instrument to a customer who absconded with the instrument without ever making a payment. After multiple attempts at contacting the person failed, the store tried to file criminal charges so that they could make an insurance claim. The police told them that they needed to prove they had attempted to contact the customer first, which meant sending a letter via certified mail, as you do in these situations.
  Fast forward a month and my wife was on the phone with USPS because the letter's tracking information showed that after going to the correct city on day one, it then took a detour on day three to a city a few hundred miles away, which is where it had been for the remainder of the last month. Once she was able to get on the phone to talk to the support representative, the rep agreed that the letter was simply lost, told her that the store would need to send another letter, and suggested that maybe the store should send it via certified mail this time...words that the rep promptly ate once they realized it had been sent via certified mail.
  For an extra dose of irony, my wife spent 15 minutes on hold before she was able to talk to the support representative. As she waited on hold, she was told repeatedly by a pre-recorded loop that if she had any concerns about her letters or packages arriving, she should use certified mail. It's apparently guaranteed to arrive.
The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Trump by bit+trollent · 2018-10-26 05:08 · Score: 2

The arrested bomber's van is covered in pro-Trump stickers, and violent memes spread by republicans nationwide, like a gun target painted on a picture of Hillary Clinton.
You may apologize now.
Trump should apologize for encouraging domestic terrorism.
Re:USPS offers a service to "preview" your daily m by turp182 · 2018-10-26 05:11 · Score: 2

Interesting, I thought it was generally available for letter mail.
And what are they hiding? They probably don't want to tip you off of their awareness of your untoward and tawdry mail contents...
Maybe it's only in urban areas, but they have to scan everything anyway for sorting purposes.

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Re:The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tru by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:17 · Score: 0

Innocent until proven guilty, friendo.
What do you want to bet this man never sees trial because of mental health issues?
What do you want to bet, that like Dr Indellibull Ford, we never hear about this again after the elections.
Re:The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tru by JackieBrown · 2018-10-26 05:18 · Score: 2, Insightful

LOL - And the democrats who are actually encouraging civil unrest and violence even after a republican was shot at a baseball game? I don't recall any apologies there.
And honestly, earlier this month "Suspected Ricin sent to Pentagon, suspicious letters to Trump, Ted Cruz office"
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/u...
How did the media respond to this? Well the New York times publishes a fictional article about the secret service and Russians assassinating Trump
Yeah, the report is clear by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:18 · Score: 0

It came from inside the White House!
Democrats don't share violent memes like GOP by bit+trollent · 2018-10-26 05:20 · Score: 0

Democrats don't share pictures of republicans with gun targets on their face.
Republicans share pictures of democrats (including this weeks' bombing targets) with gun targets painted on their face.
So yes, when a lunatic does something that goes contrary to everything Democrats stand for and advocate it's not Democrats fault.
When a republican puts violent right wing memes spread by Trump and prominent republicans into action they deserve the blame.
1. Re:Democrats don't share violent memes like GOP by Mashiki · 2018-10-26 05:46 · Score: 1, Informative
  
  Strange, because democrats were doing this for years. Until Giffords got shot, then it was a political faux pas all of a sudden.
  
  When a republican puts violent right wing memes spread by Trump and prominent republicans into action they deserve the blame.
  No power no peace! - Hillary Clinton
  Get up in their faces wherever they are. - Maxine Waters
  When they go low, we kick them while they're down. - Eric Holder
  Violence against patriots is collateral damage. - Nancy Polosi
  Need more marching, blood and death in the streets - Loretta Lynch
  And I'm only getting started. I'm also sure you think "violent rightwing memes" include pepe the frog, and the current NPC meme. But don't see calling peoples as nazi's, racists, fascists, white supremacists, race traitors, misogynists, and so on as a problem either.
  
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  Om, nomnomnom...
2. Re:Democrats don't share violent memes like GOP by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 06:24 · Score: 0, Informative
  
  Try googling before you post - just one example - I realize that these come from the "Fake News": sources, but still better than Fox or Infowares
  Need more marching, blood and death in the streets - Loretta Lynch
  https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/jun/16/infowars/infowars-ridiculous-claim-dems-called-violence/
  Or
  Violence against patriots is collateral damage. - Nancy Polosi
  https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/18/nancy-pelosi-on-the-collateral-damage-of-dems-econ/
  Or
  No power no peace! - Hillary Clinton
  https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/09/politics/mitch-mcconnell-hillary-clinton-civility/index.html
3. Re:Democrats don't share violent memes like GOP by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:04 · Score: 0
  
  Don't forget how forcefully Nancy Pelosi pushed back against anyone connecting Hillary or Bernie to the shootings of Scalise and others.
  
  House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) lambasted Republicans on Thursday, calling some conservative lawmakers “sanctimonious” for blaming Democrats after Wednesday’s shooting that left House Majority Whip Steve Scalise and several others wounded.
4. Re: Democrats don't share violent memes like GOP by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:13 · Score: 0
  
  The Eric Holder one.. the outrage is odd. "Going low" as in a "low blow" is figurative language.. seems really weird to then apply a literal interpretation of "kick 'em" in that context.. especially since a kick is what I might try against an opponent doing that in some fighting game.. assume it's a legit technique in a real fight, at least sometimes. So I don't know, just weird.. fucking politics, gets things done, but seems it's never really been civil. Ugh
5. Re:Democrats don't share violent memes like GOP by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 21:58 · Score: 0
  
  > "Bash the fash"
  > Call everyone a Nazi
  Your memory seems to be working very selectively.
Call for violence then act surprised when targeted by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:20 · Score: 1, Informative

You will notice all the people sent ones were promoting violence against Republicans.
Biden - I want to punch Trump
Clinton - You can't be civil
DeNero - I want to punch Trump
Booker - Get in their face
Waters - Attack them
Obama - They bring a knife you bring a gun
Holder - They go low kick them
and on and on...
Every last person who got one was promoting violence on others. When it comes to them NOW its bad?
You will notice Pelosi and Schumer were not targeted, neither of them were promoting violence against others. You will excuse me for not caring, especially after last week being told by multiple /.ers that violence against GOP and supporters was acceptable and to be encouraged (rsilvergun, PopeRatzo specifically)
It's not that nefarious. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:23 · Score: 1

If you understand how OCR scanning works, you'd know they *have* to image the envelope, look for something that vaguely looks like an address (in various positions, orientations, etc), parse it, then route it through the sorting machines, etc all within seconds. It makes sense to store those images for training the software (wait until you find out that google stores your "ok google" requests, especially ones that it can't understand and sends them off to folks who manually listen and try to discern what the fuck you're asking for, etc.. and I'm not surprised if law enforcement can get at those records.
1. Re:It's not that nefarious. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 06:39 · Score: 0
  
  furthermore..... every now and then the imager cant read the label and a human is notified to read the label and shown the picture.
  Not only are they photog'ed, they are video'ed, etc.
  anon developer of one such system.
2. Re:It's not that nefarious. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:47 · Score: 0
  
  This system was put in place after the anthrax mailings in 2001/2 and is explicitly about helping LEO track stuff like this.
3. Re:It's not that nefarious. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 13:45 · Score: 0
  
  Well, yes, it's understood that they've been scanning packages all this time. But I don't think it was generally known that they were saving those images on disk for the long term. I always thought they did the scan, then printed a code on the package with the result, and that was it. I would not have expected they'd store any images except for the problematic ones.
Re:USPS offers a service to "preview" your daily m by whoever57 · 2018-10-26 05:26 · Score: 1

It's a nice service, but in the email that they send me, every day, without fail, there is exactly one "mailpiece for which we don't currently have an image"

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Re:USPS offers a service to "preview" your daily m by whoever57 · 2018-10-26 05:29 · Score: 1

The other thing that I notice from this system is that mail from the UK is frequently scanned upside down.

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Re:I was wondering when /. would find an excuse .. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:35 · Score: 0

this and the "swarm of brown people coming to take yer jerbs" are both calculated to get the "republican base" out to vote while keeping the other side away. But that sounds very bitter and cynical.
Re:The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tru by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:40 · Score: 0

Yeah, and democrats don't drive their cars into crowds. If you really want to play the game of who drew first blood, it was a republican piece of shit like you.
Democrats know that child rapists don't belong in the white house. Republicans, evidently, don't.
Eventually people lower their guard by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:40 · Score: 0

In most cases when security is tightened for a threat. Eventually it becomes so constrictive that by default it eventually loosens its grip. Just good news that nobody got hurt and apparently the suspect has been caught. I think its very interesting that sometimes our fears of terror should be focused more on domestic sources then foreign. We have plenty of extremist right here in the US that obsess over things to a point of violence.
Re:The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tru by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:43 · Score: 0

Back window is covered too. illegal in florida.
look it up.
That van would get pulled over every quarter mile if it was driven any length of time.
someone tried too hard.
Re:The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tru by cascadingstylesheet · 2018-10-26 05:45 · Score: 1

The arrested bomber's van is covered in pro-Trump stickers, and violent memes spread by republicans nationwide, like a gun target painted on a picture of Hillary Clinton.
Right. Just like any stealthy terrorist would do, lol
"There's a flag, so it can't be a false flag"

You may apologize now.
For what, wondering about yet another bizarre 11th hour thing happening?

Trump should apologize for encouraging domestic terrorism.
Which he has not encouraged. So, no.
TRUMP DID CALL FOR VIOLENCE, YOU MORON. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:46 · Score: 0

"Was that Democrats' fault? Or was it just a lone nut?" -Did Obama say "we should go out and shoot people"? No. Trump made ALL KINDS of calls for violence, while pushing his nazi anti-immigrant stoking of extremist groups. Incomparable.
Even TRYING to compare these two things without evaluating this makes you a fucking moron. Trump literally calls for this violence, "reporters are the enemy of the people" etc. You'd have to be a traitor to miss it, you actual bitch.
Re:USPS offers a service to "preview" your daily m by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 05:50 · Score: 0

Maybe they thought they were sending it to Australia?
Government Conspiracy! by Thelasko · 2018-10-26 05:54 · Score: 1

The USPS is just pretending to be incompetent to cover up their vast and efficient data collection. Think about it!

Nut: The government is spying on our mail!

Normal Person: The same people that delivered my mail to the house around the corner, and gave me mail for someone who moved 10 years ago? No way!

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Just one thing wrong with your statement by SuperKendall · 2018-10-26 05:59 · Score: 1, Troll

Surprising nobody, the person sending bombs to Democratic
They were not bombs - they were joke bombs. Fake Blews, as it were.
If you want to look to people trying to do actual harm to opponents, there you will have to look for the insane left as opposed to the insane right (like the baseball field shooting).

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1. Re:Just one thing wrong with your statement by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:26 · Score: 0
  
  They were not bombs - they were joke bombs. Fake Blews, as it were.
  The FBI disagrees with you; they call the bombs 'dangerous'. It's clear the guy was grossly incompetent, but so far I all information indicates he was trying to harm people. To call them 'joke bombs' is obviously just your desparate spin. What are you so invested in that you're trying to whitewash acts of terrorism?
2. Re:Just one thing wrong with your statement by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 23:01 · Score: 0
  
  They were not bombs - they were joke bombs. Fake Blews, as it were.
  The FBI disagrees with you. Analysis of the exploded debris shows a timer, a pipe, and plenty of explosive residue. Enough to seriously wreck the day of anyone in the area when the bomb goes off, and potentially lethal.
  I'm not sure where you get your idea that the bombs were jokes. I'd personally assume fake bombs wouldn't contain actual explosive material.
"Punch a Nazi" is a Call to Violence by Kunedog · 2018-10-26 06:04 · Score: 0, Troll

Democrats do spread the "Punch a Nazi" meme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Many of them are also tepid in their condemnation (or outright supportive) of Antifa terrorism and harrassment.

Leftist professors openly call for violence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

You look silly pretending there aren't Democrats who support this kind of thing.
1. Re:"Punch a Nazi" is a Call to Violence by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 06:11 · Score: 1, Insightful
  
  Nazis want to exterminate all jews. I think it's fair game to punch them. Why show them any civility?
2. Re:"Punch a Nazi" is a Call to Violence by chiefcrash · 2018-10-26 06:42 · Score: 1
  
  It used to be the case that Nazis wanted to (and more importantly, actively worked towards) exterminating all the jews...
  
  Now the definition of a Nazi has shifted to include.... pretty much whoever you want to punch...
  
  For example: a bay area antifa group published a "most wanted" poster labeled "Know your Nazi". Their stretched definition of "Nazi" included figures such as Joey Gibson, a conservative agitator who publicly denounces white supremacists. Antifa sources consider Gibson guilty by association because white supremacists regularly show up at his rallies.
  
  Can you explain why it should be acceptable to punch someone like Joey Gibson?
  
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3. Re:"Punch a Nazi" is a Call to Violence by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:00 · Score: 0
  
  Come get some, Nancy.
4. Re:"Punch a Nazi" is a Call to Violence by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:06 · Score: 0
  
  Oh SNAP! Now call him a soy boy or an NPC, that'll really impress the fellas at the TrumpFurFiction message boards.
5. Re: "Punch a Nazi" is a Call to Violence by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 08:03 · Score: 0
  
  You wrestle with pigs you get dirty.
  Also, If its a duck and quacks, it's a duck.
6. Re: "Punch a Nazi" is a Call to Violence by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 11:00 · Score: 0
  
  Also, If its a duck and quacks, it's a duck.
  If it's a duck and *doesn't* quack, it's still a duck...
7. Re: "Punch a Nazi" is a Call to Violence by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 12:33 · Score: 0
  
  Joey Gibson is absolutely a fucking Nazis, fuck him
8. Re:"Punch a Nazi" is a Call to Violence by Plumpaquatsch · 2018-10-26 12:42 · Score: 1
  
  Democrats do spread the "Punch a Nazi" meme.
  
  How many people have you Nazis killed by now?
  
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9. Re:"Punch a Nazi" is a Call to Violence by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 12:49 · Score: 0
  
  Their hate list dwarfs that of Hitler. They already murdered Heather Heyer for being a woman with an opinion.
10. Re: "Punch a Nazi" is a Call to Violence by Cmdln+Daco · 2018-10-26 13:21 · Score: 1
  
  Why does who you advocate copulating with warrant discussion here?
11. Re:"Punch a Nazi" is a Call to Violence by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 13:36 · Score: 0
  
  Why not assault? Because your naziboo fantasy will put a CCing bullet in your head before you can punch them. OOOOh that's gonna hurt ... and before you have voted ... they stand-their-ground and Trotsky-slut eats mud ... sweet ...
12. Re:"Punch a Nazi" is a Call to Violence by No+Longer+an+AC · 2018-10-26 14:27 · Score: 1
  
  Joey Gibson invites groups like Identity Evropa to his rallies. White supremacists flock to him.
  He surrounds himself with The Proud Boys.
  I don't think it's all that extreme to think he's lying when he says he's not a White Supremacist.
13. Re: "Punch a Nazi" is a Call to Violence by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 15:43 · Score: 0
  
  You Russian paid trolls are pitiful. You're too stupid to get a real job, you're too weak to join the real Russian army, and you're too effeminate to realize your true enemy is Vladimir Putin and that he needs to be assassinated.
14. Re:"Punch a Nazi" is a Call to Violence by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 20:29 · Score: 0
  
  Democrats do spread the "Punch a Nazi" meme.
  
  OK, what does that have to do with violence against Republicans?
  Or are you insinuating that Republicans are Nazis?
15. Re:"Punch a Nazi" is a Call to Violence by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 22:03 · Score: 0
  
  Everyone who disagrees with the left gets called a "Nazi" these days. The term has lost its original meaning in an attempt to justify violence against political opponents.
16. Re: "Punch a Nazi" is a Call to Violence by Cmdln+Daco · 2018-10-27 07:22 · Score: 1
  
  The crapflooding has gotten really weird around here.
17. Re: "Punch a Nazi" is a Call to Violence by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-27 11:27 · Score: 0
  
  Islam also wants to kill non-believers and Jews. The punishment for apostasy is death in Islam so why does the left support Islam?
Re:The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tru by sexconker · 2018-10-26 06:14 · Score: 1

Damn, STICKERS? They got him! We've NEVER seen anyone try to frame shit up as being done by someone else! Certainly not the DNC!!!
Re:The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tru by sexconker · 2018-10-26 06:16 · Score: 0

Innocent until proven guilty ? How did that work out for "crooked hillary" ?
Seems like, so far, she's gotten away with multiple proven felonies (relating to her campaign, mail server, dissemination of classified information, etc.) and dozens or hundreds of others she's suspected to be directly involved with (lots of suicides with 2 shots to the back of the head, lots of staffers murdered in the night in botched robberies where nothing was taken, etc.).
Re:Call for violence then act surprised when targe by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 06:19 · Score: 0

That's fascinating and interesting, if true. With the evidence that the bombs were constructed in a way to suggests they were meant to be noticed rather than detonate it might seriously be someone thinking it would be a good turn about to send a probably harmless pipe bomb to the people who are seemingly advocating potential violence.
Re:The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tru by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 06:20 · Score: 0

Also, if you've ever printed custom stuff like that and let it sit in the sun for too long (what's Florida called again?), you'd know that ink like that fades unless specially treated with a UV-protective filter. These supposed "stickers" have clearly just been printed and only just put on the van.
You have fake bombs being sent with no post marks and laughably insufficient postage, and then suddenly they track it to a "suspect" who "owns" a brand new van covered in clearly freshly printed "stickers," all timed to be an "October surprise." It is such a blatantly obvious false flag I can't believe anyone who can operate a light switch, let alone a computer, could fall for it.
Re:USPS offers a service to "preview" your daily m by OzPeter · 2018-10-26 06:22 · Score: 5, Insightful

It's called Informed Delivery. They email you images of what's arriving that day.
https://informeddelivery.usps....
My wife signed up for it, it's sort of creepy and exciting (at first).
I would assume they image everything (at least letter sized) as part of sorting.
I expect that this what Netflix uses to speed up delivery of DVDs. I regularly drop a DVD in the mail and Netflix will send out the next one in my queue well before the returning DVD will have made it to their wharehouse. So on one hand creepy, on the other hand faster turn around time for their service.

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Politics is like an NFL championship by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 06:24 · Score: 0

Everyone is for the other team...
They Might Be Giants. by Thud457 · 2018-10-26 06:52 · Score: 1

It goes deeper than that--

the post office reads the address on every piece of mail!
and they KNOW where YOU LIVE!

Best to just not have an address so they can't FIND you!

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1. Re:They Might Be Giants. by PPH · 2018-10-26 07:19 · Score: 2
  
  and they KNOW where YOU LIVE!
  That little box I have at the post office is getting pretty cramped.
  Interesting note: The post office will deliver mail addressed to their street address and my PO box number (as if it were an apartment address).
  Another interesting note: Federal law requires that I keep the post office informed of my actual residential address. Many years ago, when I moved, I went to my post office to fill out the requisite forms.
  Me: "I'm moving. What form do I have to fill out to update my residential address on record for my PO Box?"
  Clerk: "Oh, so you'll be giving up your box? Where would you like your mail forwarded?"
  Me: "No. Keep delivering my mail to my PO Box. I just need to update my address."
  Clerk: "I don't understand. What are we supposed to do with your mail?"
  Me: "Keep putting it in the little box over there. But I need to change my residential address, which is ... " (In an adjacent town)
  Clerk: "But we don't deliver to that location. You'll have to contact the post office in your town to arrange for delivery."
  After a few more minutes of playing 'Whos on first' with the clerk, I just thanked him and walked out. To this day, I'm not sure they know where I live. If this clerk ever came across a bomb, he'd probably start chewing on it.
  
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Yes they do - and buy radioactive material to harm by SuperKendall · 2018-10-26 06:52 · Score: 1

Democrats don't share pictures of republicans with gun targets on their face.
They have done so many times.
What Democrats also do apparently is try to buy radioactive substances after telling at Republicans... instead of sending joke bombs that are not a threat.

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Re:The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tru by Xylantiel · 2018-10-26 07:03 · Score: 1

Nope, that's just making things up. (This seems like typical Russian troll stuff.) Hillary Clinton violated policy in her email handling, but the investigation concluded that there was not sufficient evidence to make a case that she committed a crime. And the crime would have been about records retention, not classified info anyway. Any mishandling of classified info would have been done by her subordinates by moving material to a non-secure medium, regardless of if the email account was a state department one or not. You are just parroting made-up stuff.
The Van ... by schwit1 · 2018-10-26 07:09 · Score: 4, Funny

This van looks like what Steve Bannon would turn into if he was a Transformer
- Twitter
1. Re:The Van ... by AmiMoJo · 2018-10-26 09:36 · Score: 1
  
  It's weird that he still loves Trump, even after Trump fired him, called him "Sloppy Steve" and suggested that he was mentally ill.
  His unrequited love is almost tragic.
  
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Re:The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tru by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:10 · Score: 0

Can you give us the exact amount of time it would take for the sun to fade those stickers? If that time is more than a week or so I'm sure you realize you don't really have an argument? Not to mention that it's not clear from images that the "stickers" are not applied to the INSIDE of the glass, thus protecting it from UV decay...
Seriously, I get that you want to continue to live in your fantasy world where Trump is a competent and honorable president, and nothing he or his minions say can have a negative effect. It must be crazy comforting to get your hateful thoughts affirmed on a national scale. But do yourself a favor and spend a few minutes thinking about it, is the retoric coming out of the GOP really good for this country (and try to refrain from whattaboutism for a second)?
Re:The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tru by werepants · 2018-10-26 07:17 · Score: 2

Is there any anti-Democrat conspiracy theory you WON'T believe? I used to think tin-foil hatters were just an exaggerated joke, but your posts are doing a great job convincing me otherwise. You better tighten that thing up another notch.
Re:The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tru by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:25 · Score: 0

What investigation? Who reported she was not guilty?
The only "official" I remember was James Comey, who got fired for making such statement. Comey also lied under oath multiple times.
So you are basing your statements on someone who got fired for making his statements because he wasn't authorized to? Someone who is known to lie under oath? You are an idiot.
And then there's the actual harm - to the GOP by SuperKendall · 2018-10-26 07:46 · Score: 2

No bombs sent to Democrats even got close to them, or went off...
Unlike the bomb locally delivered to a GOP office.

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1. Re: And then there's the actual harm - to the GOP by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 08:14 · Score: 0
  
  So that makes it ok?
  You trumptards will find any way to make violence of the enemy look good.
  You are deplorable and America is starting to push back on your backwards ass views. Get used to it.
2. Re:And then there's the actual harm - to the GOP by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:43 · Score: 0
  
  But the party angle isn't really about the bombs. I'm willing to accept this guy is just insane. It used to be that the parts of each party implying violence is okay were shunned by both major US party organizations. But the GOP doesn't do that anymore because the person making the incitements is their president, who in the US system is the de facto leader of the party. This is just more of the GOP's "win at all costs" attitude. Lie, cheat, steal, scare, incite, all appear okay from the GOP side. At least the mainline Democrats speak and act like these things are bad, even if some running as Democrats get caught in dirty politics sometimes.
3. Re:And then there's the actual harm - to the GOP by balbeir · 2018-10-26 11:18 · Score: 1
  
  No bombs sent to Democrats even got close to them, or went off...
  Oh, ok. The bomb maker was incompetent. That makes it a non-issue then.
  We prefer bomb makers that have their bombs go off
Re: The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tr by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:47 · Score: 0

In America, we don't have trials to prove innocence. If someone has not been pronounced guilty by an actual judge after a trial, then they are not guilty by definition.
For example, I am not guilty of shooting JFK. No court has issued an edict that I am not guilty. But then I am not Ted Cruz's father. Ted Cruz hasnt even denied that his father killed Kennedy. Why not?
But seriously, in America, you appear to need a conviction issued by a judge to even be denied a job on the SCOTUS.
Re:USPS offers a service to "preview" your daily m by jeff4747 · 2018-10-26 07:48 · Score: 1

Does it happen to be a bulk mail thing? Since those are presorted, perhaps they don't go through the scanner.
To those who don't want this by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 07:58 · Score: 0

Don't you care about the law? If you've ever proudly claimed you care about the law on other topics you should feel exactly the same here
Re:The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tru by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 08:05 · Score: 0

"First"? Seriously, you're going to try to play "He did it first" with political violence?
Republican President Abraham Lincoln was assassinated by a Democrat. Not long before that, two Democrat SENATORS held their comrades at gunpoint and beat a Republican Senator nearly to death, because he insulted slavery.
That's drawing "first blood".
not just mail, cash too... what else? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 08:11 · Score: 0

This is one of the things that causes me to chuckle when people express the belief that they have successfully gone off-grid. There is a near zero possibility of that. Luckily, most of the true capability of the intelligence systems goes "unused" because public use of it would reveal it and cause the more important targets to be more cautious.
Another thing that is extensively tracked is cash. It can't be tracked hand to hand in a mass fashion, but it can be tracked machine-to-hand and hand-to-machine. Dispensing systems have been tracking cash for years. Knowing the serial numbers of every bill issued or received and the account the transaction was associated with allows for some quite valuable tracking. Statistical analysis makes up for the fact that the tracking is partial. This ability is more closely held than the postal capabilities.
There was a case in WV a few years ago where a murder suspect was apprehended due to the license plate scanners at an Interstate choke point picking up a license plate. Highway Patrol was on him in minutes. It is surprising they used the information or at least that they let it be disclosed that that is where the intelligence came from. The government's network of license plate scanners tracking nationwide travel is pretty quietly run and rarely publicly used. Instead, they pretend that the private contractor run systems providing similar intelligence are bigger. Really?
Of course we have all of the scanners at airports, but how many really realize the extent of that system or that it collects and stores the data instead of just using it at the moment? Does everyone know that body odor is like a fingerprint and the sniffing systems all store that fingerprint correlated with identity via facial recognition that is boosted in its effectiveness by monitoring of the ticketing systems to narrow who is supposed to be in the airport? That the same is true of gait and the airport videos are used to capture the data for gait analysis to attach to that ID as well?
What else is out there?
Truly though, the ship has sailed. The key now is to make sure we never elect a government who will employ the resulting big data cache in combination with massive AI systems to enforce everyday criminal law on the millions instead of using it to protect the nation from the next 9/11. If that were to happen, we'd quickly be in one of the dystopian stories about what happens when technology is employed to attempt to enforce someone's idea of the perfect good. Those stories never turn out good unless they end in fantasy ("The Truth Machine" was a disturbing example of a delusional good outcome).
Re:Yes they do - and buy radioactive material to h by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 08:20 · Score: 0

"They have done so many times."
Why would an anti-gun group sell pictures of anything with gun targets on them?
Re: The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tr by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 08:22 · Score: 0

Lol. Repubtards have nothing but strawmen left.
I love Their salty tears.
Re:Yes they do - and buy radioactive material to h by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 08:35 · Score: 1

>instead of sending joke bombs that are not a threat.
You're so desperate to make this man seem like less of a nutjob that this is the line of thinking you're going with huh. Do I get to sit in a sniper's nest with a fake rifle on Capitol Hill or political rally because it's a "joke rifle" and "not a threat"?
Re:USPS offers a service to "preview" your daily m by whoever57 · 2018-10-26 08:40 · Score: 1

You may be right. I had always read it as "one mail piece", but perhaps it should be read as "at least one".

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Re:USPS offers a service to "preview" your daily m by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 08:47 · Score: 0

CIA thought you were a different Castro?
Tor by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 08:50 · Score: 0

What we need now is the postal equivalent of Tor, but for physical mail. (And dang but that would be expensive...)
1. Re: Tor by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 15:40 · Score: 0
  
  We've had that for hundred years.
  Put the real article in an addressed stamped envelope.
  Put that in an envelope addressed to Postmaster at some random zip code, with a cover letter saying please remail this thanks.
  Repeat some number of times.
  Mail the envelope of nested envelopes. Hijinx ensue.
Re:Yes they do - and buy radioactive material to h by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 08:54 · Score: 0

They have done so many times.
Which means it is trivial to show an example, no?
Re:I was wondering when /. would find an excuse .. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:01 · Score: 0

I was thinking Republicans fund the caravan (they like cheap labor anyways)
Democrats send fake bombs to their own party (For sympathy and to prove how bad the Republicans are)
Re:The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tru by Obfuscant · 2018-10-26 09:06 · Score: 1

Hillary Clinton violated policy in her email handling, but the investigation concluded that there was not sufficient evidence to make a case that she committed a crime.

Now you're making things up. Quotes from Comey's statement:
"Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information." Also: "Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case."
That latter statement is not "she's innocent" or "there's no evidence", it's a pretty clear "there is evidence" and "no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case." He's right, no prosecutor is going to waste the time and effort to counter every legal maneuver that Clinton's team would make to try to avoid a guilty verdict. And nobody wants to take down the golden girl who "won the election" (if only the rules for how to win the election were different!)
Re:USPS offers a service to "preview" your daily m by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:29 · Score: 0

I used it to find that my postman was selectively not delivering mail.
Re:The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tru by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:30 · Score: 0

Democrats also know that liars and child rapists don't belong on the Supreme Court. Republicans, evidently, don't.
Re:The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tru by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:32 · Score: 0

it just rained everywhere in florida. hurricane? home printer color ink runs.
Fake MAGA Bomber by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:36 · Score: 0

The bombs are fake. So it is real news about fake bombs. Only in America...
Re:Yes they do - and buy radioactive material to h by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:38 · Score: 0

Because they're a bunch of crazy hypocrites, that's why. Haven't you been paying attention for the past few years as the Dem insanity had the dial turned up to 11 and only got worse from there?
Re:Yes they do - and buy radioactive material to h by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:42 · Score: 0

Did you conveniently forget about Snoop Dog's video where he assassinates a mock Trump character?
Not only do they publish that shit, but the left-wing circle jerk surrounding it instead of condemning it make the hypocrisy all the more vile.
Re:Yes they do - and buy radioactive material to h by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:45 · Score: 0

Why would they hire armed bodyguards if they think guns are only for killing innocent people and have no value as defensive tools?
Re:The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tru by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:46 · Score: 0

Yeah, and democrats don't drive their cars into crowds.
Oh for fucks sake.....
https://judas.watch/Dwayne_Dixon
Hmm, guy with rifle brandishes it, illegally I might add, at someone in a car.
Re:The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tru by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:46 · Score: 0

He was arrested based on DNA matches from the devices. He had a criminal history of making bomb threats, which is probably why they already had his DNA on file. The stickers are just confirmation of motive.
Slashdot. News for human garbage. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 09:53 · Score: 0

As law enforcement investigates possible mail bombs sent to prominent Democratic Party figures and liberal activists, the tools available at their disposal include digital images and delivery metadata commonly associated with mail sent in the United States.
That's from the OP link. There is zero info anywhere that identifies who is responsible for the packages.
Re:The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tru by dcollins117 · 2018-10-26 10:41 · Score: 1

They caught the guy. Florida man. He's one of you right loonies. Doesn't surprise me one bit that after evidence that you are wrong surfaced you changed the troll rather than admit you were wrong.
Re: The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tr by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 10:45 · Score: 0

We have the White House. And will possess a larger number of Congressional seats in a few weeks. You should just move to Canada now.
Much the same as his opponents by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 11:36 · Score: 0

They are all about hating him. There is no attempt at thought, being rational, nothing but hate. Trump would be hated if he created 1 legitimate job etc.
Re: The arrested bomber's van is covered in Pro-Tr by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 12:39 · Score: 0

fuck off ivan
White house lunacy (Re: MAGA Bomber!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 13:13 · Score: 0

Please be specific about the fact based policy and actual implementation that's lunacy. Sure, the guy is a buffoon, and tweets craziness. But help us understand the lunacy he's actually implemented and the impact it's had.
Full disclosure: I'm centrist, rabidly against either side. Tho lately, the Nazi left censors and brown shirt whackos have me leaning right. If I were retired with $, I'd track down all of the folks restaurant screaming and go mess with their meals. I'd probably fund bringing in the immigrants and relocate them next door to all the pro open door politicians, and their parents families. The current left is scaring me.
I micro funded, voted for Obama in 08 and 12. Overseas in 16.
Obvious False Flag Is Obvious by NicknameUnavailable · 2018-10-26 13:17 · Score: 1

The packages weren't postmarked when they were photographed on camera and released in news stories: they never went through the postal service.
Re:USPS offers a service to "preview" your daily m by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 13:38 · Score: 0

mm no. Netflix will prosecute fraud, so they don't mind sending you the next DVD while waiting for it to come back. A few times "lost in the mail" is a rounding error for them. A lot of times raises an eyebrow. Every other DVD? your ass is going to jail because they just report mail theft to the postal police.
Re:USPS offers a service to "preview" your daily m by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-26 13:38 · Score: 0

I'm pretty sure this was originally implemented to scan the addresses and ensure the delivery point barcode matches the written address. The same system also spits out a new barcode and sticks it to the mailpiece when this happens (or if there was no routing barcode). The postcode has 9 digits and there is a delivery point containing two digits (Typically the last two digits of the address for a house, apartment number for an apartment building, a few reserved values, etc.). These 11 digits are a full routing to any address the USPS services. Theoretically the mailpiece could be delivered with the address being zip+delivery code. For the White House's official address, it would be 20500-0004-99 (99 is a special-meaning delivery point, which in this case I think means there is only a single address on this zip+4, like PO boxes). I don't believe they allow this form of addressing (it would be confusing to the human mail carrier) but it could technically work with only slight changes to the system.
So since it has determined the 11 digit number, using the OCR scan for alternative purposes (Informed Delivery & security-related purposes) could be easily associated with the delivery address. So it must have been quite trivial to search that database and identify which post offices the scans for those packages were done at, ultimately making the policework straightforward.
As for them collecting this information and using it in this manner, it's totally a reasonable usage. The law enforcement activity by the Postal Inspectors was clearly warranted by the obvious sending of unmailable manner in violation of postal regulations and federal law.
But I'd have a big problem if this kind of information was provided to someone in association with dirt-digging or for analyzing who non-violating mailpieces were being sent between. That should be considered out of scope and disallowed.
Re:Yes they do - and buy radioactive material to h by No+Longer+an+AC · 2018-10-26 14:12 · Score: 1

I hadn't seen that Snoop Dogg video until just now.
So, on the one hand you've got a rapper famous for smoking marijuana and saying stuff like "For shizzle" making a video where everyone appears in clown makeup and a toy gun that "fires" a tiny sign that says "Bang" is used to shoot a "Trump" clown and on the other hand we've got the actual President of the United States calling the press the "enemy of the people" and saying it's "unfortunate" that people expect him to have a coherent response to Khashoggi's murder.
Trump has called for police to rough up suspects and for his followers to attack those who don't support him at his rallies. He even tweeted that Snoop Dogg deserves "jail time" for exercising his First Amendment rights.
He literally said that anyone who can body-slam a reporter is "my kind of guy". That's a guy who plead guilty to a violent crime.
No wonder Snoop doesn't share his joint with the clown in his video.
"False equivalency" and "snowflake" are a couple of things that come to mind.
Re:USPS offers a service to "preview" your daily m by Anonymous Coward · 2018-10-27 05:09 · Score: 0

No, they just assume you're not dumb enough to defraud them, given that they presumably have payment and IP info about you.
Re:USPS offers a service to "preview" your daily m by Oloryn · 2018-10-27 18:42 · Score: 1

Yeah, I've found Informed Delivery handy, particularly when watching out for a particular letter. Also, it's occasionally handy for adding a bit more debugging data for delivery snags. E.g., I live at 999 E Bargle-bargle Lane, and regularly find mail destined for 999 W Bargle-bargle Lane in my mailbox. The fact that it also shows up in my Informed Delivery emailing tells me that the problem is with USPS routing software, not with my local mailbeing. The misrouted mails generally appear to have WEST spelled out, so that may be relevant to the glitch. There seems to be no way to communicate this to whoever maintains the routing software, but I've told enough of my local mailbeings about it that they sometimes catch it and locally reroute. I get the impression that the USPS has no way for local mailbeings to communicate such routing bugs upward, though. One other nifty feature is that packages sent to me generally show up in the package side of the ID page, even if the sender didn't pay for a tracking number. I've seen the occasional "mailpiece for which we don't currently have an image", but I've noticed that they usually seem to be things like magazines. Local flyers, coupons, etc, though, never show up in ID, only first-class mail and packages.