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Google Employees Stage Protest Over Handling of Sexual Harassment (nytimes.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The New York Times: Employees at Google offices around the world held a wave of walkouts on Thursday to protest the company's handling of sexual harassment. The walkouts, which started in Asia and spread across continents, were planned for around 11 a.m. in their time zones. Protests were held through the day in Google offices in the United States. The backlash was prompted by an article in The New York Times last week that revealed that Google had paid millions of dollars in exit packages to male executives accused of harassment, while staying silent about the transgressions. As late morning arrived in different time zones on Thursday, Google employees walked away from their work at offices including Singapore; Hyderabad, India; Berlin; Zurich; Dublin; London; New York; and its headquarters in Mountain View, California.

Employees posted photos on social media, but it was unclear how long the protests lasted as many of those who stopped working stayed inside the buildings. The employees who organized the walkout have called on Google to end its use of private arbitration in cases of alleged sexual assault and harassment. They have also demanded the publication of a transparency report on instances of sexual harassment, further disclosures of salaries and compensation, an employee representative on the company board and a chief diversity officer who could speak directly to the board.

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  1. An ad company by AHuxley · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The workers worked so hard getting the best education.
    Loans. All the exams. That wealth someone paid for the best education.

    They found work at an .... ad company.
    Working for Communist China and helping de rank the internet...

    Start your own company with your own great ideas.
    Find a really great company that makes product and services you actually like working with.

    Thats what your education allows you to do.
    The freedom to find work all over the USA.

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    1. Re:An ad company by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Informative

      Nobody cares about your definition.

      Google makes money selling ads.

      Bill Hicks was right.

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    2. Re:An ad company by AHuxley · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Software and hardware that allows ads more time with users is still part of been an ad company AC.

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    3. Re:An ad company by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2, Insightful

      College loans that you spend half your life paying back are mostly an American thing. Most of these protestors are outside the USA, where education is much more affordable. The downside is that they have no student rec centers with saunas, climbing walls, and acai bowl bars.

    4. Re:An ad company by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They found work at an .... ad company.

      Yes they did, and it completely irrelevant. You see the type of primary work a company does is completely irrelevant to a desire to work for a company unless your overriding decision is affected by some moral opinion about said company.

      What actually matters to most people:
      - The type of work.
      - The type of development opportunities.
      - The long term investment in the type of work.
      - The type of prestige.
      - Getting paid what you're worth

      This is why the likes of AI / image recognition experts will line up to be paid money with lots of zeros on the end to work at an "ad company". It's why datacentre designers and hardware experts line up to be paid money with lots of zeros by an "ad company".

      Start your own company with your own great ideas.

      If it were easy then everyone would do it. But it's not. It's far easier to be paid for your expertise than to branch out into something that you have no experience in. The fact that you actually suggested this shows that you've never started your own company before.

      Find a really great company that makes product and services you actually like working with.

      They did. Most educated and capable people do not work very long for a company they aren't happy with.

      Thats what your education allows you to do.
      The freedom to find work all over the USA.

      Which begs the question, why is it that you are more upset that these people work at an "ad company" than the people themselves?

  2. ex-Google employees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    im pretty sure that Google Internal Security just face-recognized all of those social media posts, put all those workers on a blacklist, and will have them banned from the tech industry.

    young people these days don't seem to understand how mega corporations work. they are not your friend, they are not your community, they are not a family, they have no values, and they have no empathy. they are big, sociopathic lumbering expressions of greed and brutality. if slavery were legal, every single one of them would buy slaves. if murder were legal, every single one of them would engage in murder.

    stop trying to change Google. Quit google, and go work for some company that is not a monstrous leviathan of cruelty.

    1. Re:ex-Google employees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      But they put nice colors on the walls and give meeting rooms cute names.

  3. If the paragon of feminist morality by Jarwulf · · Score: 2

    cannot live up to their own standards, should we really be taking pointers on how to implement equality from them?

    1. Re:If the paragon of feminist morality by Jarwulf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They didn't claim they were perfect. They just acted like it when lecturing us and trying to force us into their morality through lobbying and propaganda.

    2. Re:If the paragon of feminist morality by Mashiki · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I would like to know when Google claimed they were a perfect company, rather than a company trying to do better, that has a ways to go in spite of their efforts so far.

      In politics we call these people limousine liberals. The self-righteous, sanctimonious assholes that preach that they're better, their actions are better, and if you don't do what they tell you? You're a terrible person. This of course is while they're carrying on like normal or acting even worse then what they claim they're fighting for/against/etc.

      It's really no difference then the old catholic indulgence system. All sins can be forgiven as long as you virtue signal hard enough, and throw enough money at *insert special/pet cause* showing how "woke" you are.

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    3. Re:If the paragon of feminist morality by Mashiki · · Score: 4, Insightful

      At this point I can tell if trolls like this are American or Ukranian....

      Would you be happier if I called them baizuo instead? By the way, it's a common term in Canada as well. Someone in the Ukraine would be more likely to use a local version of champagne socialist, noting the heavy communist influence on the country.

      Wish I could.

      Don't worry, one day you'll have learned enough of the world that it'll either drive you insane or make you a realist.

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  4. What would you do? by Snotnose · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Half of your co-workers are walking out. You either think they're wrong, or flat out don't care and would rather keep working. If you keep working you're The Enemy in a highly SJW work environment.

    wat do? Work, or fuckit take a break?

    1. Re:What would you do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Show the company why men earn more: Get work done even when others don't.

    2. Re: What would you do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Complain to HR that you are being made to feel bullied by not participating in their walkout and you no longer feel safe at work.

    3. Re:What would you do? by iggymanz · · Score: 2, Funny

      yeah, plus walkouts are a great opportunity for some grab-ass since their not on the premises and not working

    4. Re: What would you do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You can't be bullied by a SJW. If a SJW bullies you, then you, by definition, deserve it. So it's not bullying. You're just bullying them more than you already do, by making them bully you.

  5. Re: But We're not EVIL by c6gunner · · Score: 2

    Fire them all and hire more commissa ... err ... "diversity officers".

  6. Doesn't matter. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is all that Slashdot cares about anymore. This "SJW" monster they've invented in their minds to vilify people who are angry about things they don't personally care about, but might tangentially affect them eventually. Maybe. We all need a bogeything to rally against, be it "evul femunists" or "anti-meritocratic agents" or whatever other nonsense makes us less threatened when the world around us shows signs of not revolving around us.

    1. Re: Doesn't matter. by c6gunner · · Score: 5, Funny

      We all need a bogeything to rally against

      Especially the SJWs.

    2. Re: Doesn't matter. by Mashiki · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Especially the SJWs.

      Well there's a difference between SJW's and 'bogeythings.' Bogeythings don't have an impact on society, don't go after your job, and further try to ruin future employment, and don't try to censor things. SJW's do. If you don't think so, why not go ask the round of progressive professors who've lost their jobs because someone got offended and rallied the mob over their opinion on Halloween costumes, or refusing to play along with their "whitey is the cause of all world ills" stances.

      It's funny just how racist so many SJW's are though, especially with their cries of 'everyone else is a racist.'

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    3. Re: Doesn't matter. by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2

      Even that seemingly PC word of theirs: “person of colour” (PoC) is deeply racist. Basically it means “everyone except the whiteys”.

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    4. Re: Doesn't matter. by c6gunner · · Score: 2

      It's also apparently WAAAAAAY different than "coloured person" for some fucked up reason.

  7. Re: Bet they didn't post to Google+ by c6gunner · · Score: 5, Funny

    Posting to "social media" such as G+ would be a bad idea and probably career limiting.

    Why would it be a problem if they posted to G+? It's not as if anyone would see it ...

  8. Re: Hire stupid harassers by c6gunner · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So I guess that means that, before all of these SJWs started creating work stoppages, there were no harrassers?

    Boy, the 1950s must have been wonderful. Totally harassment free!

  9. Re:Hire stupid harassers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nah bro. There's always something to offend a feminist. The goalposts always change. When the entire culture is based on gaining power and prestige by taking offence, offence will be taken.

    They spend more time on facebook and slashdot compaining than working even when they do choose to show up. Don't hire them and you won't get your career ruined later when they witchhunt you for using the word "Dude" in your username or having a penis, or other not-woke-enough nonsense.

  10. Re:What is next? by ma1wrbu5tr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Exactly. They've not only mass jumped on a #metoo opportunity, but they're also talking how big G is too dominated by males. Google is about to let itself be overrun in leftist politics.

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  11. Because male = guilty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The man is clearly guilty because ... because you don't need a trial to know that every straight man is guilty of harassment.

  12. And the whole thing is horseshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here's why: I worked at Google. At Google, today, you can't as much as argue with a feminist (and I'd bet money most of Google's female employees consider themselves that), let alone sexually harass anyone for real. I once called out a female SJW on internal Google+ for "kill all white men" type of rhetoric. This promptly resulted in her reporting me to HR for "harassment". This is the kind of offense threshold we're talking about here. Does Google have bad apples? Any company of 85K people has at least a few. Can you get fired for as much as looking at some female co-worker wrong? 100% you can, if you're not Andy Rubin or the like. There is "process" for that: you get reported to HR, and security will walk you out the door for a mere "credible" accusation, no evidence or physical contact required. So the whole thing is SJW bullying plain and simple. If you're not walking out with them, you're misogynist bigot and literally a Nazi. So glad I don't work there anymore.

    1. Re:And the whole thing is horseshit by aberglas · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It is difficult for an outsider to know which is the truth.

      But we do all know how Damore was treated.

      Only one data point. But went to the CEO.

    2. Re:And the whole thing is horseshit by AbRASiON · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I have a friend in Google who is Constantly telling me what the op said. It's full sjw infestation "with us or against us"

      Having now actually visited a campus, it was EXACTLY how the movies, tv and gtav depict.

      I saw /mostly/ women, mostly young and mostly hip looking types. I'm 40 and out of the 300 ppl I saw, I'd say teen were my age or older.

      I saw less then 5 "typical nerds" that we generally look like, balding, overweight dudes who look a bit shy / insure of themselves.

      My contact tells me the vast majority of real work is done by about 15% of the staff. It was seriously like a high school cafeteria.

    3. Re:And the whole thing is horseshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Here's why: I worked at Google ... So glad I don't work there anymore.

      So am I. Oh boy, so am I !!

      I was amongst the first batch hire by Google, some twenty odd years ago. It used to be fun and satisfying working there.

      The situation worsen, but at that time it was still 'tolerable', until the time they got that Indian on the helm, then all hell broke loose.

      That's the time I started packing, and never looked back.

    4. Re:And the whole thing is horseshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I wasn't "terminated", but I did have a sit-down with HR. Some time later I left on my own. I suspect I'm on a blacklist somewhere now, marked as "do not rehire".

      Try it. Find an example of the obviously extremist rhetoric on internal G+ and try to call out the person on it. Better yet, post a clever meme on Memegen ("constant struggle" would do the job). You'll see for yourself. Google is brimming with SJWs who are constantly on the lookout for new things to be offended by. If you do not constantly signal your virtue by supporting their dogma you will be ostracized.

    5. Re:And the whole thing is horseshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      OP here: literally anybody in the trenches trying to challenge even the smallest facet of liberal dogma will face a fate similar to Damore's. Think gender dysphoria is a mental illness (many psychiatrists agree)? Don't want to use ever more bizarre pronouns? Think wage gap doesn't exist? Don't like illegal migrants (sorry, they aren't "undocumented immigrants")? Wear a MAGA hat? They will eventually chase you out, it's not even a question.

    6. Re:And the whole thing is horseshit by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      I saw /mostly/ women, mostly young and mostly hip looking types.

      Seems unlikely as Google's own stats say that women are a minority in their company. Also if you look at the photos in TFA you can see that there are more men than women protesting.

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  13. Re: Hire stupid harassers by Mashiki · · Score: 5, Informative

    So I guess that means that, before all of these SJWs started creating work stoppages, there were no harrassers?

    No, they existed. The difference between now and 20 years ago is that the "amount to be offended by" has increased to the point where air conditioning, smiling, small talk, and refusing to be baited by the crazy cat lady is claimed as sexist.

    Boy, the 1950s must have been wonderful. Totally harassment free!

    Well it was, especially if you were working a trade. Just remember that working in a switch office was considered one of the worst jobs for women because of the high levels of backstabbing and mean-girl cliques.

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  14. Something cannot be explained by sentiblue · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I definitely don't get this for the life of me. In every country, whether it's legal or not, people can pay for sex. In this case, the guy in question has lots of money. He can pay for as many companies as he'd like. And in most (if not all) cases, he will get much more good looking ones than the ones he tried to harass. Why in the world would he go and try having sex with somebody at work knowing it will get him in trouble? This just doesn't make any sense.

    1. Re:Something cannot be explained by hyades1 · · Score: 2

      If there's an element of exerting power and control involved as well as sex, then it makes perfect sense. Is there a better way to prove your absolute and complete dominance over a reasonably attractive female employee...maybe one with a husband or boyfriend...than to tell her to lie down and spread or watch her career go to hell?

      If you're that kind of scumbag, you're going to do this every time you think you have a chance of getting away with it.

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    2. Re:Something cannot be explained by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      People want what they can't have. As you say, he has money, he can just pay for it... But that's less rewarding than having to work for it. There is less excitement, no will she/won't she uncertainty, making the payoff less satisfying.

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  15. Anonymous reporting by rossz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They want to be able to anonymously accuse someone of sexual harassment. I'm sure no one would abuse a system that would allow you to destroy someone's life without repercussions.

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  16. Re: But We're not EVIL by astrofurter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No need. Big Brother Google already fired all their competent engineers. All that's left now are H1-Bs and screaming social just-us activists. I mean, seriously, have you seen the utter shit quality of Google's recent software?

  17. Re:What is next? by Mashiki · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What's wrong with a company being forced to do something other than being a psychopathic profit driven machine?

    Nothing of course. But ask yourself why you'd want your company to start operating like Mizzou or Evergreen Collage. Then ask exactly how such environments are going to keep people happy and productive, when it degenerates into hostile cliques of people who witch hunt others because they're triggered.

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  18. Re: Hire stupid harassers by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 3

    These claims are modded up because many people have at least anecdotal evidence from their own environment that they are true. If you work for a large corporation, I’m sure you’ve had your course on “micro-aggressions”, which refers so called offensive behaviour that is so insignificant that you have to go out with a magnifying glass to look for it. Or just look at the wave of politically correct intolerance that washed over this year’s Halloween celebration.

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  19. Re: Hire stupid harassers by c6gunner · · Score: 2

    That wasn't a wild claim at all. I may somewhat disagree with other parts of his comment, but the part you chose to quote is quite accurate.

  20. Re: Hire stupid harassers by Mashiki · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I love how here any such claims, no matter how wild, get modded up high. Now I expect to be modded down for pointing this out, despite it being true. If there's one thing the "anti SJW" can't stand it's dissent.

    Do you work for a company with more then 300 people, a Fortune company, or company listed on a major stock exchange that has annual profits greater than $15m/year? How about been to a university in Canada, US, or Europe in the last 15 years? Can you name the last time you had mandatory workshops on any of the following: Sexual harassment/workplace etiquette/triggers/trigger-words/micro-aggressions/politically (in)correct language/politically correct speech/politically correct terminology.

    Has your HR dept or student life/student union/professor published memo's outlining speech guidelines, improper speech, improper word usage in essays/papers, warnings against particular types of speech in the university and/or aggressively made restricted speech in a public university which is backed by the university president and/or dean of students. Thinking on the university, can you or can you or not remember at any point in the last 4 years where a TA, professor or tenured professor has been unofficially or officially sanctioned by either other professors, or adjoining body, or open protests by students for wanting to show full arguments/open discussion/defense of speech/views protected by charter/constitutional law/students rights charter/employment act/student union protections on an issue.

    If the answer is no. Then you haven't interacted with mainstream education, or corporate culture in the last decade in any western country. In turn, you're ignorant of what's going on around you. If yes, then you're either accepting of these views or you're either not paying attention or are simply lowering your head so much to not make any waves, you've accepted the abnormal as normal.

    Feel free to read campusreform, Fire, or anything similar for universities. Go on and read up about the Title IX abuses and abuse of students with no due process for indictable offences/felonies. Feel free to read the employment manual and/or the up to 20 supplemental documents at a major company. Read The Guardian, Vox, Vice, The Root, Huffpo, and read the articles that led to those same policies you're now skimming over. Look at the universities that are primary hires at these major companies, then go take a look at the googlers and their statements. Notice anything yet?

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  21. Re: But We're not EVIL by cayenne8 · · Score: 2

    The h1B ARE the competent folks.

    If so, then that is one scary fucking statement.

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