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Google Employees Stage Protest Over Handling of Sexual Harassment (nytimes.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The New York Times: Employees at Google offices around the world held a wave of walkouts on Thursday to protest the company's handling of sexual harassment. The walkouts, which started in Asia and spread across continents, were planned for around 11 a.m. in their time zones. Protests were held through the day in Google offices in the United States. The backlash was prompted by an article in The New York Times last week that revealed that Google had paid millions of dollars in exit packages to male executives accused of harassment, while staying silent about the transgressions. As late morning arrived in different time zones on Thursday, Google employees walked away from their work at offices including Singapore; Hyderabad, India; Berlin; Zurich; Dublin; London; New York; and its headquarters in Mountain View, California.
Employees posted photos on social media, but it was unclear how long the protests lasted as many of those who stopped working stayed inside the buildings. The employees who organized the walkout have called on Google to end its use of private arbitration in cases of alleged sexual assault and harassment. They have also demanded the publication of a transparency report on instances of sexual harassment, further disclosures of salaries and compensation, an employee representative on the company board and a chief diversity officer who could speak directly to the board.
Employees posted photos on social media, but it was unclear how long the protests lasted as many of those who stopped working stayed inside the buildings. The employees who organized the walkout have called on Google to end its use of private arbitration in cases of alleged sexual assault and harassment. They have also demanded the publication of a transparency report on instances of sexual harassment, further disclosures of salaries and compensation, an employee representative on the company board and a chief diversity officer who could speak directly to the board.
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Bad enough we had to hear about this politicized nonsense the first time.
The workers worked so hard getting the best education.
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Loans. All the exams. That wealth someone paid for the best education.
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Working for Communist China and helping de rank the internet...
Start your own company with your own great ideas.
Find a really great company that makes product and services you actually like working with.
Thats what your education allows you to do.
The freedom to find work all over the USA.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
im pretty sure that Google Internal Security just face-recognized all of those social media posts, put all those workers on a blacklist, and will have them banned from the tech industry.
young people these days don't seem to understand how mega corporations work. they are not your friend, they are not your community, they are not a family, they have no values, and they have no empathy. they are big, sociopathic lumbering expressions of greed and brutality. if slavery were legal, every single one of them would buy slaves. if murder were legal, every single one of them would engage in murder.
stop trying to change Google. Quit google, and go work for some company that is not a monstrous leviathan of cruelty.
cannot live up to their own standards, should we really be taking pointers on how to implement equality from them?
Half of your co-workers are walking out. You either think they're wrong, or flat out don't care and would rather keep working. If you keep working you're The Enemy in a highly SJW work environment.
wat do? Work, or fuckit take a break?
Get stupid work stoppages.
What will be the next demand? This is starting to look like a college campus and not a company.
This is all that Slashdot cares about anymore. This "SJW" monster they've invented in their minds to vilify people who are angry about things they don't personally care about, but might tangentially affect them eventually. Maybe. We all need a bogeything to rally against, be it "evul femunists" or "anti-meritocratic agents" or whatever other nonsense makes us less threatened when the world around us shows signs of not revolving around us.
Posting to "social media" such as G+ would be a bad idea and probably career limiting.
Why would it be a problem if they posted to G+? It's not as if anyone would see it ...
What’d they do... sit at their desks with their hands folded on their laps?
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So I guess that means that, before all of these SJWs started creating work stoppages, there were no harrassers?
Boy, the 1950s must have been wonderful. Totally harassment free!
Nah bro. There's always something to offend a feminist. The goalposts always change. When the entire culture is based on gaining power and prestige by taking offence, offence will be taken.
They spend more time on facebook and slashdot compaining than working even when they do choose to show up. Don't hire them and you won't get your career ruined later when they witchhunt you for using the word "Dude" in your username or having a penis, or other not-woke-enough nonsense.
The man is clearly guilty because ... because you don't need a trial to know that every straight man is guilty of harassment.
So, really everyone just went out to lunch? An 11am walkout is symbolic at best.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
Here's why: I worked at Google. At Google, today, you can't as much as argue with a feminist (and I'd bet money most of Google's female employees consider themselves that), let alone sexually harass anyone for real. I once called out a female SJW on internal Google+ for "kill all white men" type of rhetoric. This promptly resulted in her reporting me to HR for "harassment". This is the kind of offense threshold we're talking about here. Does Google have bad apples? Any company of 85K people has at least a few. Can you get fired for as much as looking at some female co-worker wrong? 100% you can, if you're not Andy Rubin or the like. There is "process" for that: you get reported to HR, and security will walk you out the door for a mere "credible" accusation, no evidence or physical contact required. So the whole thing is SJW bullying plain and simple. If you're not walking out with them, you're misogynist bigot and literally a Nazi. So glad I don't work there anymore.
So I guess that means that, before all of these SJWs started creating work stoppages, there were no harrassers?
No, they existed. The difference between now and 20 years ago is that the "amount to be offended by" has increased to the point where air conditioning, smiling, small talk, and refusing to be baited by the crazy cat lady is claimed as sexist.
Boy, the 1950s must have been wonderful. Totally harassment free!
Well it was, especially if you were working a trade. Just remember that working in a switch office was considered one of the worst jobs for women because of the high levels of backstabbing and mean-girl cliques.
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I definitely don't get this for the life of me. In every country, whether it's legal or not, people can pay for sex. In this case, the guy in question has lots of money. He can pay for as many companies as he'd like. And in most (if not all) cases, he will get much more good looking ones than the ones he tried to harass. Why in the world would he go and try having sex with somebody at work knowing it will get him in trouble? This just doesn't make any sense.
If employees feel they have to protest against their own employer fine
BUT...
I can guarantee you everyone single of them who walked out or protested or went on social media about it is has now effectively destroyed any career at Google. They won't be fired [especially in Europe] but they won't be promoted or advanced and will be first in line if it's redundancy time.
Corporations are self-protecting entities.
Also I'd suggest they Google [heh heh] the concept of "Biting the hand that feeds you"
They want to be able to anonymously accuse someone of sexual harassment. I'm sure no one would abuse a system that would allow you to destroy someone's life without repercussions.
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Looks like the NPC missed update 1.03a. Guess it's just further proof that machine learning has a long way to go.
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These claims are modded up because many people have at least anecdotal evidence from their own environment that they are true. If you work for a large corporation, I’m sure you’ve had your course on “micro-aggressions”, which refers so called offensive behaviour that is so insignificant that you have to go out with a magnifying glass to look for it. Or just look at the wave of politically correct intolerance that washed over this year’s Halloween celebration.
If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
That wasn't a wild claim at all. I may somewhat disagree with other parts of his comment, but the part you chose to quote is quite accurate.
Isn't sexual harassment illegal. So how can Google require employees to go through private arbitration for crimes? Tell the police, not your HR drone. Same for college students too. Campus police protect the school, not you. Corporate police (HR) protect the company, not you. Real police protect society, which sometimes includes you. At least you'll have a chance and retaliation against you for contacting the police is illegal.
I love how here any such claims, no matter how wild, get modded up high. Now I expect to be modded down for pointing this out, despite it being true. If there's one thing the "anti SJW" can't stand it's dissent.
Do you work for a company with more then 300 people, a Fortune company, or company listed on a major stock exchange that has annual profits greater than $15m/year? How about been to a university in Canada, US, or Europe in the last 15 years? Can you name the last time you had mandatory workshops on any of the following: Sexual harassment/workplace etiquette/triggers/trigger-words/micro-aggressions/politically (in)correct language/politically correct speech/politically correct terminology.
Has your HR dept or student life/student union/professor published memo's outlining speech guidelines, improper speech, improper word usage in essays/papers, warnings against particular types of speech in the university and/or aggressively made restricted speech in a public university which is backed by the university president and/or dean of students. Thinking on the university, can you or can you or not remember at any point in the last 4 years where a TA, professor or tenured professor has been unofficially or officially sanctioned by either other professors, or adjoining body, or open protests by students for wanting to show full arguments/open discussion/defense of speech/views protected by charter/constitutional law/students rights charter/employment act/student union protections on an issue.
If the answer is no. Then you haven't interacted with mainstream education, or corporate culture in the last decade in any western country. In turn, you're ignorant of what's going on around you. If yes, then you're either accepting of these views or you're either not paying attention or are simply lowering your head so much to not make any waves, you've accepted the abnormal as normal.
Feel free to read campusreform, Fire, or anything similar for universities. Go on and read up about the Title IX abuses and abuse of students with no due process for indictable offences/felonies. Feel free to read the employment manual and/or the up to 20 supplemental documents at a major company. Read The Guardian, Vox, Vice, The Root, Huffpo, and read the articles that led to those same policies you're now skimming over. Look at the universities that are primary hires at these major companies, then go take a look at the googlers and their statements. Notice anything yet?
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The difference between now and 20 years ago is that the "amount to be offended by" has increased to the point where air conditioning, smiling, small talk, and refusing to be baited by the crazy cat lady is claimed as sexist.
Sorry but that's just plain horseshit. There are definitely people out there with this opinion, however they typically don't last long and few people give them the time of day.
On the flip side 99% of what you hear about is actual legitimate complaints that are only not tolerated now because people are sick of being harassed by arseholes. ... I say 99% because I assume you are a normal person who reads normal stuff and doesn't hang out on SJW blogs or go around fatshaming people on tumblr or whatever it is those idiots do. They do exist, those echochamers exist, however they are exceedingly rare in large companies which (as you can see here) typically swing in the opposite direction.
Leftie: "Everyone should go to University! It's a Human Right!"
Normie: "Er, everyone can go to university. What's the problem?"
Leftie: "NOOO! Poor Brown people can't because Poor, Brown, Misogyny, Racism, Patriarchy, NAZIS!"
Normie: "Huh? We have bursary and scholarship programs. Kids with good grades can fill out a form and get their education paid for. So what's the problem?"
Leftie: "REEEEEEEEEEEE! Everyone should go to University! It's a Human Right! REEEEEEEEEEEE!"
Normie: (sigh) "Ok, assuming you're right, how do you propose to pay for all that. University education is expensive."
Leftie: "Well tax the rich of course! Tax the evillll corporations!"
Normie: "Fuck Off"
Leftie thinks about this for a while rubbing 2 brain cells together then comes back.
Leftie: "I've got it! Why not a student loan program! We can setup yet another government bureaucracy to manage it! Big Government YAY!"
Rightie: "Hmmm, my banker friends would like that. They can profiteer from that. I think we need to ask University Administrators what they think of this."
Universities: "So what you're saying is we can take everyone in and we'll just get paid no matter what? HOLY SHIT THAT'S FANTASTIC!!!!"
Results:
Now Universities are all about asses-on-seats and not about higher learning.
It gets worse. Universities pressure professors and threaten their tenure if they fail too many students. Sorry Quantum Field Theory is hard...
It gets worse. Universities emphasize retardo courses like gender studies, intersectionality, postmodernism, Harry Potter, Star Wars, etc..
It gets worse. Kids get saddled with 50000 of debt and useless degrees living at home with mommy and daddy into their 30's.
It gets worse. Now we have a situation where universities can charge whatever they want for tuition fees. 200+% over CPI.
It gets worse. Because courses get dumbed down Industry has trouble finding good candidates and therefore look outside. > 50% PHDs are H1B visas.
Solution: Kill the student loan programs. Whoops not so easy when the Banks, Government and University Administrations all support it.
Isn't that less of a protest and more of a long lunch? One you need to leave early for, because maybe you have a doctors appointment or need to run to the DMV.
While in some case this is about sex (think clumsy coworker flirting borderline harassment, type) in the case of an executive like that there is a very good chance it was about him using his power and feeling the rush of it, rather than the sex.
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Do you work for a company with more then 300 people, a Fortune company, or company listed on a major stock exchange that has annual profits greater than $15m/year?
Yep.
How about been to a university in Canada, US, or Europe in the last 15 years?
Yep.
And your original claim is still bullshit. I note that you're industriously moving the goalposts though.
Can you name the last time you had mandatory workshops on any of the following: Sexual harassment/workplace etiquette/triggers/trigger-words/micro-aggressions/politically (in)correct language/politically correct speech/politically correct terminology.
I had one on harassment, none on the other topics you're angry about. I don't really see a problem with it because I'm not a massive snowflake who's so precious that I get triggered when someone tells me it's possible for me to behave in an unacceptable way.
Notice anything yet?
Yeah I noticed that you're perpetually aggrieved that you can't behave exactly how you want with zero consequences. I also noticed that your claims are so overblown as to be flat out wrong
SJW n. One who posts facts.
The backlash was prompted by an article in The New York Times last week that revealed that Google had paid millions of dollars in exit packages to male executives accused of harassment, while staying silent about the transgressions.
Isn't it an HR policy to NOT share personal information about someone? Wouldn't this be counter to a persons right of privacy?
Yup, they're a pile of crap for what they did (if they did do it, and it wasn't just a baseless accusation), but does an employer really need to advertise why they got rid of someone? As far as the payouts, I'm sure there was something other than "Well, we think you're a good guy anyway, here, take a pile of money while we fire you for being accused of sexual harassment". Things are never cut and dry. It's not a binary world. There's an infinite distance between that 0 and 1...
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Sexual assault is a crime. Harassment, in and of itself, generally is not.
And, in many cases, the victims do not want to be identified. Forcing it to be public would prevent a lot of victims from reporting, since THEIR names would be public, too.
Nah bro. There's always something to offend a feminist. The goalposts always change. When the entire culture is based on gaining power and prestige by taking offence, offence will be taken.
They spend more time on facebook and slashdot compaining than working even when they do choose to show up. Don't hire them and you won't get your career ruined later when they witchhunt you for using the word "Dude" in your username or having a penis, or other not-woke-enough nonsense.
The chilling proof of this statement can be seen by the fact that literally no men are now CEOs or Senators, judges, professors, doctors, etc.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
I don't think that's quite right about the latter, but yeah, I'd assume a few companies skip it if they're not really seeing any reason to believe there could be a problem.
Every company I've worked for in the last 20 years, big, small, medium, etc, has had some kind of sexual/racial harassment training session once a year. One did it online, others have staff meetings that are usually an hour long where a lawyer does a "fun" presentation. Interestingly with the sessions I was involved in for one of the companies I've worked for, the session usually ended with examples of lawsuits, where the employee who was upset about a fellow employee's harassment lost the lawsuit.
It's kinda bizarre Mashiki thinks this is a problem, for those of us who aren't assholes we recognize the need for them and occasionally are given something to think about that's new, for those that are, well, you kinda need to be reminded to not be one, that's the entire point of them.
Some people want businesses and work environments to be rotten horrible places where nobody feels comfortable except the biggest assholes. The rest of us...
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
Has been changed, to be really good at hiding the evil.
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And your original claim is still bullshit. I note that you're industriously moving the goalposts though.
Are moving the goal post? No, sorry they're not. Rather you've contributed nothing from your original post, and contributed nothing in your follow up reply. Want to try again?
I had one on harassment, none on the other topics you're angry about. I don't really see a problem with it because I'm not a massive snowflake who's so precious that I get triggered when someone tells me it's possible for me to behave in an unacceptable way.
Oh it's not anger, it's disgust. Something that any rational person should feel when they're told by a 3rd party that mentioning the smell of christmas trees is a micro-aggression. You are proving that the left can't meme though, so it's unacceptable for you to refuse to be baited by the women that engages in sexual harassment with male employees? The same actions that would lead a male to be fired.
Yeah I noticed that you're perpetually aggrieved that you can't behave exactly how you want with zero consequences. I also noticed that your claims are so overblown as to be flat out wrong
Haven't quite figured out yet why the vast majority of people are sick of political correctness yet have you. Looks like you're simply a moral authoritarian and have a desire to impose your morality and sensibilities on everyone else.
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It's kinda bizarre Mashiki thinks this is a problem, for those of us who aren't assholes we recognize the need for them and occasionally are given something to think about that's new, for those that are, well, you kinda need to be reminded to not be one, that's the entire point of them.
The comrade will only engage in policies and actions approved by the party.
Some people want businesses and work environments to be rotten horrible places where nobody feels comfortable except the biggest assholes. The rest of us...
Strange, because most people according to business survey's find that imposing more rules to stifle people to "avoid offence" make a business and work environment a less welcoming place. Might have something to do with the entire culture that currently exists around tiptoeing and regulating speech around every person in order to keep your job.
What a fun place to work, who wants to be part of the collective? It looks like...it's you!
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The chilling proof of this statement can be seen by the fact that literally no men are now CEOs or Senators, judges, professors, doctors, etc.
And the reality is, the chilling proof of government stepping in and mandating by law that a company must have women on their boards/percentage of hires/etc. Not the best, not the most skilled, but women because that's why.
Ever wonder why so few people now support feminism, and are railing harder then ever for egalitarianism?
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True, though. I've also had an hour of online sexual harassment training and basically nothing else in that list.
I assume that, for some reason, laboratory safety training, handling of personal information training, etc don't fall under the same umbrella.
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Something that any rational person should feel when they're told by a 3rd party that mentioning the smell of christmas trees is a micro-aggression.
It's interesting you keep simply inventing stuff but are so angry about it that you think it's real.
That never happened.
SJW n. One who posts facts.