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'Hologram' Lecturers To Teach Students at Imperial College London (bbc.com)

Imperial College London will be using holograms of lecturers to teach students from afar. "Imperial will initially limit its use to its Business School's activities but expects the technology could eventually become common," reports the BBC. From the report: Strictly speaking, the illusions are not holograms but neither are they the Pepper's Ghost effect used by politicians including French presidential candidate Jean-Luc Melenchon and India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi as well the entertainment industry. Instead, they use a technique developed by a Canadian company, Arht Media. "The problem with Pepper's Ghost is that it can be intricate to set up and can cost about $200,000 to run an event," said Dr David Lefevre, director of Imperial's Edtech Lab. "This is simpler -- you project upon a glass screen, and a backdrop behind it uses software to give it an illusion of depth. "It runs at the low thousands each time, so for the first time universities can afford it." To send their image, lecturers need to use a "capture studio," which involves filming them against a black backdrop while being lit from both sides.

57 comments

  1. NOT holograms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Could people PLEASE stop calling these 2d projections 'holograms' and learn what an actual hologram is??

    1. Re:NOT holograms by Z34107 · · Score: 1

      Could people PLEASE stop calling these 2d projections 'holograms' and learn what an actual hologram is??

      This. So much this. For reference, here's a list of things that are holograms:

      • Tupac
      • The Emergency Medical Hologram
      • That little sticker on my driver's license
      • That one phone made by the company with the cameras
      • Your girlfriend

      Tthings that are not holograms:

      • Hatsune Miku
      • Guest lecturers
      • My girlfriend
      • 37% of the migrant caravan (as of last counting)
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    2. Re:NOT holograms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      63% of the migrant caravan are holograms? Haven't you run through the EMH's landmark holonovel, Photons Be? The entire working class across racial or substrate boundaries must unite against the capitalist profit system according to a socialist program. A white person in the working class has vastly more in common with a working class hologram than with any white person in the capitalist ruling class. An injury to one is an injury to all!

    3. Re: NOT holograms by TimMD909 · · Score: 1

      Don't kids worry abut jinxing themselves anymore? Saying everyone else doesn't have a girlfriend, but you do, is really tempting fate...

    4. Re:NOT holograms by jools33 · · Score: 1

      Which is kind of strange given that Imperial college pretty much invented holography (Dennis Gabor's work there).

    5. Re: NOT holograms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's racist.

    6. Re: NOT holograms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nazi isn't a race, dipshit.

      Of course, it's also telling that GP felt the need to use a homophobic slur.

      Ah, but this is what the green site has become! At least the alt-idiots on the red site are more articulate.

    7. Re:NOT holograms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "My girlfriend"

      True enough, I nudged her awake and asked her. Also she says to pick up eggs thx.

    8. Re: NOT holograms by Z34107 · · Score: 1

      This is /. It's actually just lying.

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  2. The point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Unless something radical happened lectures tend to just be some guy droning on about a subject, often as not with his back to the audience so he can read off the power-point presentation. How does this benefit from being in pseudo 3D?

    1. Re:The point? by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      My thoughts as well. The novelty effect will only last a short time. And it isn't like he can see and interact with the students like they are there too.
      Most colleges have smart boards and projectors. What can you do with all this to enhance learning, that you couldn't do over skype onto a projection in front of the class?

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    2. Re:The point? by BringsApples · · Score: 1

      Because technology. WOOP WOOP!! Some head at the school probably had to spend money on some new technology upgrades to keep the school at the cutting edge of ...whatever. Seems pretty standard that every piece of electronics in the world has to be upgraded into oblivion every few years, even something as trivial as cables (don't get me started on software).

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    3. Re:The point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With this technology, the speaker will now be able to face the audience.

  3. Almost as good as.. by MpVpRb · · Score: 2

    The University of You Tube

    With YouTube, I can pause, watch again, skip the parts I found easy, repeatedly watch the challenging parts

    Real time learning is non-optimal

    1. Re: Almost as good as.. by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      Real time learning allows you to ask questions.

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    2. Re:Almost as good as.. by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      For a _small class size_ real time learning is actually very effective where the students and professors interact with each other.where students can give feed back if a particular idea they are not getting or not, and the professor can explain things differently vs the same same way over again.

      However for many learning centers, class sizes are too large for that level of interaction, and there are too many students who really don't care enough about that particular topic to give feed back either way. Unless it is going to be on the test.

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  4. You left an important bit out by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    The bit where it's of any additional value to anyone but the company selling this junk.

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    1. Re:You left an important bit out by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      It looks cool. I'm sorry the fun child in you who likes cool looking things died.

  5. Effective? by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

    Cool, but is this really any better than a video conference? Why would you simply not use an online video instead? Students can watch it multiple times to grasp harder concepts and they can watch it literally anywhere with mobile technology. I even did one for my physics students explaining Pepper's ghost. It might not be as cool as a hologram but I bet it is at least as effective pedagogically and since we had all the equipment already the cost was pretty much zero.

    1. Re:Effective? by Krishnoid · · Score: 1

      It could go beyond just basic telepresence; you tell me if it has the potential to change the classroom experience for the weirder.

    2. Re:Effective? by Z34107 · · Score: 2

      Cool, but is this really any better than a video conference?

      It is a video conference. The "capture studio" sounds expensive, but "low thousands" for the projector doesn't sound all that obscene. Whether it's worth it depends on how beneficial the illusion of the instructor's physical presence is in terms of classroom interaction &c. is relative to the price premium over a 2D projector.

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    3. Re: Effective? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is a fucking lie. APK does not suck his roommate off every night. That is when his shift is down at the glory hole in the Pilot Travel Center off of I81 near his shithole dump of a duplex he paid $1 for from his parents. He sucks his roommate off every morning just before his roommate leaves for his shift as the greeter at walmart.

  6. Stop the marketing bs, they are not holograms!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They are simply projections, holograms do not require a surface project light on to.

    1. Re:Stop the marketing bs, they are not holograms!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > They are simply projections, holograms do not require a surface project light on to.

      True, but they require a surface (film) to transmit the light through.

      Any time you view a real hologram, you are looking at an image in a substrate.

  7. Why is it always biz or law schools that get toys? by spiritplumber · · Score: 0
    CSB:

    Way back in the stone age, my alma mater's campus had 11mbps wifi. We were told that 54mbps wifi was going to roll out but that the law school building and library was going to get it first.

    Cue me and two other idiots replacing the routers overnight (They were those blue and grey WRT routers so they looked the same).

    Best part is that the law school guys bragged with us about their wifi once or twice afterwards.

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  8. Business courses.. by thesupraman · · Score: 1

    Not Science... You are asking far FAR too much of such a department (and probably too much of both the administration and a science department also, sadly..).

    They should however not be doing this on the basis that there is little or no cost/return benefit over using a standard camera/big screen (ie: video conferencing).

    This is just gimmickry.. not the BEST thing to be promoting to business students (or perhaps it is, teach them how to extract money from over-funded universities with BS ideas..)

  9. Color me skeptical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    As a student in London in the 80s, I attended a few lectures over CCTV. The only good thing about them that it was easier to fall asleep than in standard lectures. This aside, they were pretty much as useless as standard lectures.

  10. Peppers ghost by slashnot007 · · Score: 1

    is there something wrong with just saying pepper's ghost

    1. Re:Peppers ghost by Jeremi · · Score: 1

      Yes, if you say it three times, Pepper will appear and steal your soul.

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    2. Re: Peppers ghost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you eat it backwards you'll burn yourself

  11. Re:Why is it always biz or law schools that get to by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 0

    Law and Biz schools have more money, more donations, etc. Hence, better toys.

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  12. Obligatory Star Trek by gijoel · · Score: 0

    Please state the nature of your educational crisis.

    1. Re:Obligatory Star Trek by bn-7bc · · Score: 1

      From the near future
        EEH mk1.:Please state the nature of your educational crisis
      Student: All the lectururs are gone even the department deans are MIA/AWAL
      EEH: What about the lecture archives?
      Student: Off lime and the it departmet is on strike
      EEH: (sigh) I seem to be at the University of the damed
      (freely modifed from EMC MK1 Voyager: Cartaker. no intelectual property violation intended)
      Om e serious note tho without the lecturing fees how can the researchers fund that part of the reserch now funded by those fees?

  13. even better for me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i can enter class, sit down, enable my Holo Duke, go back to the strip bar to make some money.

    looks like im studying, who can complain?

  14. hope by Angga.permana · · Score: 0

    wow I hope on campus I also apply the same thing

  15. Nobody wants to see the speaker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just project the slides or chalk board, add a good sound system for the voice. For all I care the lecturer can be sitting in their bath tub naked or whatever their preferred location while at it.

    Ps. If you want to see the lecturer it is probably not the subject of the lesson you care about. Looking at you, 20 something male.

  16. Nice by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    So it just costs a few thousands more per lecture than a video and it gives the fantastic bonus of almost being 2.5d?

    What a progress for the learning experience that must be for those schools who swim in money.

    1. Re:Nice by coofercat · · Score: 2

      It's the business school. They're not going to be any good at raising the next generation of CEOs without 'wowing' them with some shiny new technology, now are they? I'm told they're going to be marking end of term papers using blockchain and industry-standard REST APIs.

  17. Sigh... by LordHighExecutioner · · Score: 1

    I still remember my quantum physics professor giving two hours lectures without ever taking a break, with no written notes at hand, surfing among hamiltonians, fuchsian singularities and spins, and using nothing but chalck and a blackboard. For his research work he missed a Nobel prize nomination by a hair, and he left a vivid impression in all his students.
    Now a student gets nothing but a virtual assistant...what will they remember of this after a few years ?

    1. Re:Sigh... by gerald.edward.butler · · Score: 1

      It looks like you're trying to understand supply & demand growth? Would you like some help with that? Woof!

    2. Re:Sigh... by novakyu · · Score: 1

      He might have been a more impressive lecturer (although, what you describe is kinda standard for any emeritus—or near-emeritus—professor), but here's the more relevant question: how many of your classmates were able to follow the lecture for 2 hours? How much of the material do you remember (can you write down the Hamiltonian of a spin-1/2 particle in an applied magnetic field)?

      The "virtual assistant", as unimpressive as they might be, have a potential for being a better teacher, only unsurpassed by the equivalents of Aristotle tutoring Alexander one-on-one.

    3. Re:Sigh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It looks like you're trying to puff up your ego by being a shit.

    4. Re:Sigh... by gerald.edward.butler · · Score: 1

      It looks like you have a dog's dick in your ass and it's shit in your mouth. Gross! You really need to be more hygienic.

    5. Re:Sigh... by gerald.edward.butler · · Score: 1

      Also, it looks like you didn't understand the reference to "Bob".

    6. Re:Sigh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thunderspazz.

    7. Re:Sigh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why don't you stop licking the assholes of random homeless drunks/addicts? That's just nasty! Fucking disgusting pig!

    8. Re:Sigh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why we can't have nice Slashdots.

  18. Huh? by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    Can't just watch it on YouTube for free?

    1. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can get a lot of lectures on Second Life too - AND mod your avatar too!

  19. Only a Few Thousand a Time by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

    No money for essential services but let's spend a bunch of money on faux holograms that don't really add much to the teaching experience over a projection TV. With the projection TV you can save the lecture and post it on YouTube so the students can watch it later.

    Put the money into the basic essentials and leave the fancy light shows for the entertainment industry or even CEOs introducing products.

  20. hologram! by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2

    Help me Professor Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope!

  21. Imperial Professor? by jimbo-nally · · Score: 1

    Given that it's Imperial College and they're going to be teaching by hologram... I wonder if this ( http://www.oocities.org/~speci... ) might be one of the professors.

    1. Re:Imperial Professor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, he's the chair of the political science department with a focus on applied genocide.

  22. uhm... by morethanapapercert · · Score: 1
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't projecting onto a transparent surface exactly what Pepper's Ghost IS? This may well be a slightly different approach, using software to generate the background of the projected image instead of capturing it during the original recording, but it's still projecting onto a surface that will reflect back to the viewer(s) and working best when shown against a dark background and/or in a dark room.

    I also wonder, neat as this idea is, is there a clear advantage to doing this over a simple video recording shown on a conventional TV or hosted on the course's website for students to access on their own devices?

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