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Microsoft is Testing Ads in Mail App For Windows 10 in Select Markets (betanews.com)
Mark Wilson writes: Ads in your inbox. Sounds like something you'd expect from the likes of Google or Yahoo, but Microsoft appears to be about to get in on the act as well. And we're not talking about online ads in your Outlook.com account -- we're talking about ads in the Mail app that's included with Windows 10. A new report says that Microsoft is currently testing ads with Windows Insiders, so it could be just a matter of time before they spread wider. In a support page, spotted first by news outlet Thurrott, Microsoft says, "Consistent with consumer email apps and services like Outlook.com, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail, advertising allows us to provide, support, and improve some of our products. We're always experimenting with new features and experiences. Currently, we have a pilot running in Brazil, Canada, Australia, and India to get user feedback on ads in Mail."
Update: ZDNet reports that Calendar app for Windows 10 is getting the same treatment.
Update: ZDNet reports that Calendar app for Windows 10 is getting the same treatment.
Fuck you.
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Well, that's one way to get people to stop using the Mail app.
Not to use Microsoft Mail. Thanks for that! I was really worried about having to find a bad reason to not use it, but you gave me a good one.
When I read shit like this, it validates my choice to move to Linux that much more.
Currently running Ubuntu 18.04LTS and no regrets!
Screw you, Microsoft.
Big ol pack o' cunts.
Ads in your inbox. Sounds like something you'd expect from the likes of Google or Yahoo, but Microsoft appears to be about to get in on the act as well. And we're not talking about online ads in your Outlook.com account -- we're talking about ads in the Mail app that's included with Windows 10. A new report says that Microsoft is currently testing ads with Windows Insiders, so it could be just a matter of time before they spread wider.
I thought of Thunderbird, but the last time I checked, that thing sucked big time. There was talk of it dying too! Sad.
This is no surprise.
They already have adds on the start menu and Solitaire.
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Enough people use it to make it a viable advertisement platform?
Come on, is it April 1?
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Look Microsoft you have been shipping a mail client (of a kind) with Windows since at least 3.11. Now maybe that was just a ploy to sell some NT Server and later Exchange licenses. All fine; whatever. Here is the thing though you are charging me for the OS. The license fee should pay for you to improve my experience.
The addition of advertising will certainly NOT improve my experience. Now I would argue that a mail client really is out side the scope of an OS anyway. If you don't want to support it or develop it; than just drop it entirely. Plenty of freeware mail clients out there you crappy one will be missed by exactly nobody.
Keep in mind though you are continuing to destroy the general value proposition of Windows. Apple seems to be able to deliver OSX with a suite of software that would be pretty adequate for most home users needs and give it away for free with (or pay for it by bundling it with) the hardware.
If you expect anyone past the current generation of midlevel IT managers who have just always bought MS; to pay premium prices for your Surface hardware well you better deliver a premium OS. The rest of us are NOT going to pay for your adware.
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why i refuse to use MS_Windows anymore
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That was the only benefit of the mail app over using webmail. The UI isnt any better, the features arent any better, its not any more powerful, the ONLY reason to use the email app over webmail was because you didnt get ads.
Windows 10, Edge Browser, built-in mail app, spectre, meltdown, more hilarity to ensue shortly, or:
What could possibly go wrong?
Windows 1-0:
1 symbolizes a lingam.
0 symbolizes Microsoft users' raw orifices.
It's shorthand for "Windows crams crap down their users' raw holes."
... to fully migrate to Linux by the time Windows 7 passes EOL.
I've never been a fan of M$'s tactics over the years but this Windows 10 fiasco is just insane.
Fuck you M$, fuck you.
I think that advertising has overstepped it's reasonable place in society. Have we no right to be left alone? How is it not disturbing the peace?
...whoever wants to pay for it. But selling it to advertisers...
...oh, I see what they did there.
I get it, this is an article about MS's mail app, and how they just took a shit in it. But my point is that they're doing so based on factual evidence that advertising is a source of revenue, and nothing more. Just sell your mail app to
Politics; n. : A religion whereby man is god.
If the OS will start showing us advertisements, does this mean they will stop charging for this POS? Not that I care; since 1999, I use Windows only at work.
COE
The mail app in Windows 10 is absolute shit... 10/10, if you're using that app you're still on AOL dial up and deserve to be inundated with ads.
WTF? Bruh... if Microsoft is adding that much stress to your life, that's a you problem... and you need to seek psychiatric help.
Windows 10 will automatically install gigabytes of software onto my machine without me knowing, approving, or having the choice of making it stop. This is unacceptable for a supposedly professional product that costed me 260 â. Also, it is me who is paying for the bandwidth required to download those unwanted applications and games, and for the disk space required for their installation. And I don't want to trust the developers of that software to have any kind of access to my computer or the data contained therein. It's incredible how greed trumps every other consideration in the behaviour of those multinational entities. If they can get away with something, they will do it; and as they grow in size, what they can get away with is more and more.
Right click PowerShell, click "Run as Administrator".
PS C:\Windows\System32> Get-AppxPackage Microsoft.windowscommunicationapps | Remove-AppxPackage
Mail and Calendar both gone. Enjoy.
Apple did the calculation with boot times back in the Mac days.
Average human lifespan is 80 years, or 2.5 billion seconds.
If you waste 10 seconds of everyone's time on looking at/downloading/processing ads every day, that's 3652 seconds. Do that to about 700,000 users, and that's one lifetime wasted.
Shit should be a hangin' offense.
i.e. one lifetime wasted per year for every 700,000 users Microsoft probably has at least 1000x that many Win 10 users, so they're "killing" 1000 people per year.
I can't image in any test scenario that a significant portion of any testers have ever said.. "Yeah, I really like getting ads in XYZ."
I'd much rather they just skip the obvious pageantry and simply say "We're sticking ads in XYZ, deal with it." At least that'd be honest.
I don't wonder. I moved to macOS when Microsoft tried to shove Win10 down everyone's throat.
Every time I start to wonder if I should move back to Windows, Microsoft does something like this again. You'd really think that having an Indian CEO would mean the company wouldn't treat its customers like cattle to the slaughter.
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Definitely, people will stop using Microsoft mail. There will be more damage to Microsoft's reputation.
Microsoft has always been badly managed in some ways, in my opinion. But now the management is FAR worse.
Pay for an operating system with advertisements in the baked in apps that are hard to remove for the average user or switch to a free opensource operating system with open source applications that do the same thing.
Its clear that Microsoft is trying to maximize revenues, the truth is that the majority of computer users have Stockholm syndrome, whether it be from apple, microsoft, google or facebook, they have been beaten into submission and refuse to switch because new is scary and might be tough. this is why these ideas work and the MBA types that suggest them succeed, even if MS was to start charging a subscription for windows (which is more than likely for home users and already happens for enterprise users), they will still stuff it full of advertisements and get away with it because change is hard for people.
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Next, ads on the BSOD.
Have gnu, will travel.
Yet another reason to keep Win10 off every machine I own or otherwise control.
Hey, there, Microsoft: Fuck you hard, fuck you deep...fuck you with something that has jagged, rusty serrations on it.
I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
"advertising allows us to provide, support, and improve some of our products"
He seems extremely confused about the definition of the word "improve."
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Next, ads on the BSOD.
Can you imagine?
"Your graphics driver crashed. This is because your graphics card is too old. Click here to purchase the latest nVidia graphics card"
Right... cause without Microsoft nobody ever wastes a second of their life.
I was thinking more along the lines of:
"Your graphics driver crashed. You won't be up all night playing games. Here's some ads for liquor and condoms."
Have gnu, will travel.
[Microsoft has] in my opinion, over the last couple of years, made strides in the right direction of friendship with the broader community of open source development ecosystem.
You have been successfully hoodwinked. Microsoft has no friends. Never has. Never will. If Microsoft does anything that benefits someone else, it's just to set a trap that will be sprung at the appropriate time.
get-appxpackage -allusers | remove-appxpackage
get-appxpackage | remove-appxpackage
get-appxprovisionedpackage -online | remove-appxprovisionedpackage -online
That will nuke all but Defender, Edge, and Cortana now
And you will need to do that every 6 months. Also, delete the contents of C:\Users\Default\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Shell
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Linux doesn't play games.....
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Throwing flaming condoms of liquor at people pretending they are NPCs is generally frowned upon.
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No really, most people I know use web based email, or already have a mail application of their choice. I have never seen anyone use the horror that is the Windows 10 email app. I only opened it up myself once because I heard how bad it was and wanted to see for myself.
Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon what's the difference? All steal money from devs and control with walled gardens.
Since when don't you have to use the command-line to do anything in Linux? The promise that GUI package managers can do everything is one of the most persistent lies in the open-source community.
You took the bait, suckers. Now enjoy the ride up to the surface.
Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
What did you do that your parents never trust you?
You don't have parents do you :)
Throwing flaming condoms of liquor at people pretending they are NPCs is generally frowned upon.
You sure? That sounds like the start of a pretty good party, or street riot.
Om, nomnomnom...
I know the point you're trying to make, but you're exaggerating. Win95 was far less stable than WinNT at the time, and you wouldn't dream of trying to keep it up for days or weeks.
Like the guy says, "Ads in your inbox. Sounds like something you'd expect from the likes of Google or Yahoo"
Somehow, if the ads are not showing on the browser and instead they are on a desktop application, then it's a big deal. What is wrong with you people?
When I open my Gmail box, there are advertisements showing at the top of the message list, with a subject and sender, to make them look like a normal email. I've been using Gmail for 10+ years, free of charge, so it's kind of shitty to complain.
Plenty of mobile apps do worse. They have the sort of irritating pop up ads that made adblock a necessity. They have silly excuses for games with 50 too-easy-to-be-playable game levels just to have more opportunities to display interstitial ads. The ads have minuscule "close buttons" in random places, made for hopefully getting clickthroughs by accident. That's OK as well, if the rest of the app is free(mium). Pretty bad after spending £600+ on a smartphone, heh?
But Microsoft? NOOO!
Microsoft gives the desktop email client for free, like they've done with Outlook Express and the 2012 Essentials email application, maybe with a free mail service like the one from Google or Yahoo et. al. and then they decide to push their ads, people lose their minds on Slashdot. Windows being a paid for OS does not mean that everything connected to Windows should be included in the price.
Get a grip.
... make for a very profitable prison infrastructure. Maybe tech evangelism was never a suitable substitute for an actual gospel that survives an inverse turing test, which seems to look like the dogfooding that implements programmatic integrity. Hmm.. too much dust in this case fan?
"Do not let your heart envy sinners, but live in the fear of the LORD always." Proverbs 23:17
This has already been confirmed as not going forward by the Communications VP at Microsoft:
https://twitter.com/fxshaw/sta...
We can all collectively stop freaking out about an App absolutely no-one here uses.
Given all of the problems with their own updates being very unreliable, now users have to worry that a rogue advert as part of the OS may infect the computer? I'll bet the ransomware writers are quite happy. Wonderful...
haven't used windows in a long time, but is it free these days (or is there a free edition)?
if not, they still show ads in bundled applications? wow...
you know just complaining won't help, just abandon the platform.
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
It's not forced on you... you're under no mandate or obligation to use any Microsoft product.
That's really the only response "Microsoft's ads are killing me" deserves...