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Michael Bloomberg Donates Record $1.8 Billion To Johns Hopkins University; Donation Will Be Devoted Exclusively To Undergraduate Financial Aid (go.com)

Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is giving $1.8 billion to Johns Hopkins University. The gift is believed to be the largest ever to an academic institution. The money is earmarked for scholarships and grants for undergraduate students from low and middle-income families, Mr. Bloomberg, 76, said through a press release. The gift will enable Johns Hopkins to become one of just a handful of need-blind schools -- meaning students will be considered for admission regardless of their ability to pay. Currently, 44% of Johns Hopkins students graduate with some form of debt averaging $24,000. From a report: As a direct result of the endowment, Johns Hopkins will be able to permanently commit to "need-blind admissions," which will admit the highest-achieving students from all backgrounds, regardless of their ability to pay, according to the university. In addition, the Baltimore-based school will be able to offer no-loan financial aid packages, reduce contributions for families who qualify for financial aid, provide "comprehensive student support," and increase the enrollment of Pell grant eligible students, which will "build a more socioeconomically diverse student body," Johns Hopkins said in a statement. In an op-ed published in The New York Times, Bloomberg wrote: America is at its best when we reward people based on the quality of their work, not the size of their pocketbook. Denying students entry to a college based on their ability to pay undermines equal opportunity. It perpetuates intergenerational poverty. And it strikes at the heart of the American dream: the idea that every person, from every community, has the chance to rise based on merit.

I was lucky: My father was a bookkeeper who never made more than $6,000 a year. But I was able to afford Johns Hopkins University through a National Defense student loan, and by holding down a job on campus. My Hopkins diploma opened up doors that otherwise would have been closed, and allowed me to live the American dream. I have always been grateful for that opportunity. I gave my first donation to Hopkins the year after I graduated: $5. It was all I could afford. Since then, I've given the school $1.5 billion to support research, teaching and financial aid.

134 comments

  1. USA your education system is broken by johnjones · · Score: 3, Interesting

    if you cant admit students regardless of their ability to pay otherwise known as NORMAL

    1. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now all we are going to hear is how magnificent this is with one guy muttering âoewell itâ(TM)s not that greatâ. I assume there will some kind of ceremony around the whole check presentation? His accountant must have fallen off his chair

    2. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Sorry, we're not interested in socialism. Thank you for asking, tho.

    3. Re:USA your education system is broken by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sorry, we're not interested in socialism.

      The data suggests otherwise.

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    4. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Hope they don't do a 'Cooper Union' and blow it all on new luxury buildings and gambling in hedge funds.

    5. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Highschool doesn't work too well either. Basic spelling and punctuation, what's that?

      But Americans like it that way. Then the guys with all the money can make a big show of giving it all away, as if that's "charity" or even "philantropy". Fuck no, it's "buying even more fame".

    6. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe it is just honorable. Who knows?

    7. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Good things done by people in the other tribe = virtual signaling

    8. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Touch that data and they will kill you

    9. Re:USA your education system is broken by alvinrod · · Score: 3, Informative

      You're welcome to go work for the college at a reduced rate so that they can lower their costs. I'm guessing that whatever company you work for admits or maintains customers on the basis of their ability to pay.

      The line from the summary indicating that "Currently, 44% of Johns Hopkins students graduate with some form of debt averaging $24,000" which assuming that it's saying the other 56% graduate with no debt at all, would suggest that students who attend that college graduate with significantly less debt on average than students at most other universities.

      If the U.S. education system is broken it is precisely because it will gladly loan anyone money to go to college regardless of their likelihood of being successful there, the ability for their degree to allow them to earn a living or pay back their loan, or any other sensible metric. Given the surprising number of college students who cannot even pass the high-school level math courses necessary to take college algebra, I suspect that these loans are being given to people who have no real understanding of compound interest or who have given any thoughts as to how their degree might enable a career. It is morally reprehensible to shackle young people with a debt that they cannot discharge through bankruptcy.

    10. Re:USA your education system is broken by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 0, Troll

      I don't mind rich guys making a show out of doing a big donation, or engaging in feel good rich man's hobbies. It beats them using their money to buy political favors or spread misinformation that furthers their goals. Better Bloomberg and Gates than Soros.

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      If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
    11. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet somehow the top 4 universities in the world, ranked by a non-US source, are all in the US.

      Those being: MIT, Stanford, Harvard, and Caltech.

      Whichever country you are from, it doesn't do as well.

    12. Re:USA your education system is broken by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 0

      It is morally reprehensible to shackle young people with a debt that they cannot discharge through bankruptcy.

      Do you get what money is? It's a fungible resource to exchange Human labor - all materials, housing, food, etc - it boils down to Human labor. If someone is irresponsible enough to take out loans - to take the labor of others - and use that so they can study liberal arts or Frisbee dynamics or another worthless thing, they have wronged others. They may have obfuscated that act through the financial system designed to help them reach their personal objectives with the presumption that they will make it, but they have still taken from the pool of Human labor, lounged away musing about how to beat people into their own failed ideology (unsuccessfully,) or otherwise just squandered it. They have stolen when offered a gift, they deserve no mercy.

    13. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is magnificent. Best news so far today.

    14. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Except you have socialism? How ignorant are you?

      Also itâ(TM)s implemented so poorly that you spend way more than other nations for way less.

    15. Re:USA your education system is broken by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      If college loans were handled like anything else, where there was a possibility of default, then lenders would be forced to evaluate where students want to attend and what majors they wanted to pursue. I expect that the net effect would be fewer people majoring in some form of underwater basket weaving. Similarly, students might take their college experience a little more seriously if they learned that receiving additional loans was contingent on doing well in their classes.

      For those who truly are coming from nothing and can't get any bank to lend you money, the U.S. armed services will gladly pay for a college education. Not only that, they'll likely give you some practical real world experience along the way. Better yet, ignore college entirely and go to a trade school, or even failing all of that, get a job and start building up some financial capital. There are a large number of jobs in the U.S. that require no college education of any form, and life is much easier if you don't have a staggering loan debt with payments that will constitute a significant percentage of your monthly expenses for many years to come.

    16. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Johns Hopkins is a private university. It has nothing to do with USA state or federal governments.

    17. Re:USA your education system is broken by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 2

      If college loans were handled like anything else, where there was a possibility of default, then...

      If that were the case you'd have to include the degree (and probably a means of having them blacklisted from relevant industries) with the bankruptcy because recent college grads are poor and have no incentive to not file bankruptcy. They could easily just take out loans, get their diploma, file bankruptcy, and start their career, so they all would.

    18. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If college loans were handled like anything else, where there was a possibility of default, then lenders would be forced to evaluate where students want to attend and what majors they wanted to pursue. I expect that the net effect would be fewer people majoring in some form of underwater basket weaving.

      Basket weaving is actually a useful skill though, with legitimate practical applications. You're relying too much on an established meme for your arguments to be sustained.

      Similarly, students might take their college experience a little more seriously if they learned that receiving additional loans was contingent on doing well in their classes.

      Those are the people who end up stressing themselves out and dying.

      For those who truly are coming from nothing and can't get any bank to lend you money, the U.S. armed services will gladly pay for a college education. Not only that, they'll likely give you some practical real world experience along the way.

      Or they'll expose you to toxic substances, conveniently blame your speculated sexuality to scapegoat you for the misconduct of a contractor, ruin your life over their own mistakes, and abandon you in your time of need.

      Better yet, ignore college entirely and go to a trade school, or even failing all of that, get a job and start building up some financial capital. There are a large number of jobs in the U.S. that require no college education of any form, and life is much easier if you don't have a staggering loan debt with payments that will constitute a significant percentage of your monthly expenses for many years to come.

      I'm honestly surprised you didn't recommend getting to Clown College.

    19. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      For those who truly are coming from nothing and can't get any bank to lend you money, the U.S. armed services will gladly pay for a college education. Not only that, they'll likely give you some practical real world experience along the way.

      Like learning how to kill people. Yep, that's definitely for me. It's funny, btw, that you're so quick to suggest the US armed services as a means to a college education. Isn't that a sort of socialism? Or is socialism okay as long as it potentially includes killing foreigners?

    20. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    21. Re:USA your education system is broken by quonset · · Score: 1

      it will gladly loan anyone money to go to college regardless of their likelihood of being successful there, the ability for their degree to allow them to earn a living or pay back their loan, or any other sensible metric.

      And yet, college can offer so much including reduction in crime and poverty.

      That college costs so much despite universities sitting on billions of dollars in endowments might be a better area to look at.

      However, that Bloomberg is following in Harris Rosen's footsteps seems like a good thing.

    22. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't mind rich guys making a show out of doing a big donation, or engaging in feel good rich man's hobbies. It beats them using their money to buy political favors or spread misinformation that furthers their goals. Better Bloomberg and Gates than Soros.

      How about the Koch brothers? They buy political favors and spread misinformation, but you're all "meh, don't care."

      Ohhhhh, I get it. The Kochs aren't jewish. And they're on the "right" side.

      Soros is one millimeter to the left of center – politically – and he's jewish, so that makes him a bad guy when he donates to Dem candidates.

      And you don't care who Bloomberg and Gates donate to because they're not donating to Dems. Or Republicans, but mostly that they're not donating to Dems.

      Just callin' it like I see it.

    23. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Firstly: lots of people already work at jobs for less that the most money they could possibly make, because they feel that their work is important or beneficial to humanity. This includes a bunch of people in (higher) education, many of whom could probably make more doing almost anything else. You are, of course, free to decide that you will only ever take jobs that give you personally the most benefit, but please don't assume that everyone takes such an a-moral approach to their careers.

      Secondly: US college's don't spend the majority of their income on labor costs. Indeed, they seem to be competing with one another as to who can pay their administrators the most and waste their endowments on the most academically irrelevant follies. Academic labor costs are basically unchanged since the 70s, whilst the inflation of student loans is ploughed into vanity projects.

    24. Re:USA your education system is broken by geek · · Score: 0, Troll

      Sorry, we're not interested in socialism.

      The data suggests otherwise.

      Haven't you socialists killed enough people? Nearly 100 million just in the last century. How many failures does it take before you "get it right"?

      Its astounding to me that despite all the evidence of the amazing success of capitalism that people can still stand there stubbornly insisting they deserve other peoples money. Every single one of your arguments crumble to dust the second anyone asks, "How do you intend to pay for it?"

    25. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't understand economics. This isn't socialism, this is classic debt neoliberalist right-wing macro economics - screwing the little guy and stifling growth. Hit the books kiddo, your alt-right Trump U degree isn't paying dividends.

    26. Re: USA your education system is broken by c6gunner · · Score: 0

      Getting paid for working is a type of socialism?

      Commies say the darndest things.

    27. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ike was a socialist. He killed fascists. We have a problem with fascism currently in this country but the difference is the fascists Ike killed weren't incels.

    28. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are quite possibly the dumbest human being on the face of the planet. Please, take a jump off a bridge and do the gene pool a favor.

    29. Re:USA your education system is broken by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Why I mentioned Soros? The guy bet against the UK Pound, then dumped assloads of that currency to get it to tank... he made about a billion dollars in that little stunt. Enough for me to question his motives when he meddles in EU politics. The Kochs are probably as bad (perhaps worse) but they get plenty of negative press (in mainstream publications, not just crackpot blogs), and there's plenty of commentary on what they are doing. In contrast, everybody seems to love Soros. EU politicians decry the US practice of rich people buying political influence, but they'd kill for a lunch date with Soros. He does have lunch with the top EU dogs... behind closed doors, and who knows what is being discussed there. I can well understand why Hungary wants to curb his influence in that country and shut down his education and "free press" initiatives. And no, the guy being Jewish has fuck all to do with all that. Nor the fact that he's left leaning. I don't trust his motives, but he is not the only one with suspect motives or undue influence. What scares me about him is that there's zero pushback against his influence from the people who are usually very critical about whom they associate with.

      Also, as a European, I care very little about Dems and Reps and who donates to them.

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      If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
    30. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, I think he had it right. But instead of being mean and asking you to kill yourself, I'll just ask that you don't breed.

    31. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So if we as a society decide to offer free education to the worthy, somehow millions of people will die?
      How is that supposed work again?

    32. Re: USA your education system is broken by mermeid007 · · Score: 1

      I enjoy imagining all the gloating going on

    33. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it isn't honourable. Paying your fair share of taxes, paying employees a livable wage, and not using your excessive wealth to lobby to skew laws even further in your favour to the detrement of the majority is honourable.

    34. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Getting paid for working is a type of socialism?

      Yes, they're called a "public works" or "works programs". The did it during the Great Depression precisely as a form of Keynesian economics. Most of the Military Industrial Complex is all about not only paying armed servicemen that aren't needed but buying all the equipment they don't need. Admittedly, most of that's on the high end stuff and they could get away with most the "civilian" public works on military gear with a much smaller armed forces. In any case, the idea of offering a college tuition is also to try to prevent the armed forces degenerating into the absolute stupidest possible quantifiable people.

      Put another way, how many *other* jobs include free college after putting in N years? It's clearly the sort of fringe benefit that comes from either having a very socially minded company willing to invest that sort of money into someone who may never return or a government with bottomless pockets.

    35. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ya must be a Euro-gaffot ... parasite Rawlsian ... believing he has a right to other peoples property. Now ... this Winchester says get off my lawn.

    36. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Erasing Trotsky-slut activists and Quisling politicoz are skills worth having no matter the cost. Pestilent, tyrannous parasites worthy of extinction. Makes ya think ... TBBOM home-schooling anyone ?

    37. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sorry, we're not interested in socialism.

      The data suggests otherwise.

      Haven't you socialists killed enough people? Nearly 100 million just in the last century. How many failures does it take before you "get it right"?

      Its astounding to me that despite all the evidence of the amazing success of capitalism that people can still stand there stubbornly insisting they deserve other peoples money. Every single one of your arguments crumble to dust the second anyone asks, "How do you intend to pay for it?"

      Name the "people" who have been killed by socialism? Now there's an argument that crumbles to dust.

      Just for you and you alone: we're going to take away the highway system, airports, fire departments, schools, paved streets, police departments, etc., etc., etc. Somehow we manage to pay for those things – for the common good – with everyone's money.

      Oh wait, you actually want those things? I guess it's okay in your book when they're the things you want. But when they're things you don't want, then you drag out your <<<socialism>>> boogeyman.

      We've had socialism for a long time. You just don't want to see it.

    38. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People like michael bloomberg are the reason students cant afford college. White doo good billionair liberals with big pockets write laws guaranteeing everyone a loan provided by Sallae Mae, which just so happens to someone like Machael Bloomburg either on the board or as a major shareholder. These laws are written so the debt can not be written off in bankrupcy. The colleges, which also have people like Michael Bloomburg on the board suddenly see a lot more people thar can spend more on college thanks to the influx of these guaranteed loans. The college administrators will naturally raise tuition to whatever price the students can bear.

      Occasionally the stink will get so bad that these billionaires will throw a bone to a few students so they can pretend they are 'Helping the disadvantaged' or some other bullshit. In reality people like Bloomburg are making fuck tons of money fucking over students and the nation.

      If michael Bloomburg really wanted to help the cause of education he would use some of his billions to bribe the governement to stop guaranteeing student loans. College tuition rates would go down and students would no longer have to go into debt to pay for a degree.

      In the 50s you could reasonably finance your degree working part time. What changed? Banksters like Bloomburg wrote laws guaranteeing financial aid, and made themselves richer in the process.

    39. Re:USA your education system is broken by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      Someone also has to maintain the Jeeps, cool the meals, and all manner of other tasks that might allow someone to earn a living. There are some people who are blessed with a brain that lets them be a programmer or engineer, but even if they are and are so descriminated against that they can’t get any other funding, the army won’t turn down talent. Also, the army won’t accept the absolute bottom who are incapable. Read up about McNamara’s 100,000.

      And yes it’s publically funded. It’s one of the few things the constitution actually says the government is allowed to do. I think our armed forces are larger than they need to be, but if you don’t rely on voluntary participants that means conscription. Some countries do this and I’m not sure it’s entirely bad, but that’s another argument. However there’s nothing “free” about that education and if you’re signing up to die for your country (or the misguided fools who run it) then I don’t mind paying for it. Really, they should get more for what many of them give up. At least the Roman senators made their sons commanders.

      But if you think all the military teaches you is to kill, you’re sadly misinformed. If that’s what ours did and practiced, no one would be talking about overpopulation.

    40. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Getting paid for working is a type of socialism?

      Whose money pays for the army?

      Commies say the darndest things.

      Well, unlike retarded orange morons, they are capable of sophistication in their word play.

    41. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If thatâ(TM)s what ours did and practiced, no one would be talking about overpopulation.

      There's actually a lot of Quiverful in the army today. And even less savory types. They might as well admit they have classes in covering up sexual assault. Thanks, but those are lessons that should be left untaught.

    42. Re:USA your education system is broken by roman_mir · · Score: 0

      Whatever you believe 'data suggests' the correct thing to do is to prevent destruction and self destruction, thus to avoid socialism and to rely on individual capitalism.

    43. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is this socialism? He's donating his own money. It's charity, a method of transferring wealth used under capitalism.

    44. Re:USA your education system is broken by SimonInOz · · Score: 1

      Quite a number of countries in the world offer university study for low or zero fees. Germany, Sweden, the Netherlands. These countries are of similar levels of wealth to USA.
      USA has made a choice to make higher education (and medicine, but that's another, sadder, story) a source of profit. This is a choice - many think it a poor choice.
      It means that student of lesser means, regardless of their ability, do not have the opportunity to study at top universities.

      This is a choice of the USA political system. And a fairly recent choice - USA degrees used to be affordable, but now they are not - students end up saddled with high debts. What has changed?

      Many countries, certainly UK and Australia, do leave students with debts, and paying them back is fairly painful - but not bankrupting.

      USA, supposedly the land of opportunity, has chosen not to make that opportunity available to all. All in the pursuit of the almighty dollar.

      What has happened to you?

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      "Cats like plain crisps"
    45. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone also has to maintain the Jeeps, cool the meals, and all manner of other tasks that might allow someone to earn a living. There are some people who are blessed with a brain that lets them be a programmer or engineer, but even if they are and are so descriminated against that they can’t get any other funding, the army won’t turn down talent. Also, the army won’t accept the absolute bottom who are incapable. Read up about McNamara’s 100,000.

      Ie, you accept it as a necessity to have a standing army. It's also quite interesting how you speak very quickly as if the army is precisely for the "discriminated against", but it won't accept abject idiots (they have a floor of an 80 IQ). So, I take it you think the poor are discriminated against? Or are you suggesting that the poor are abject idiots but thankfully the army rejects them? You see, nothing on how you twist it changes the fact that the existence of the army as it stands is something which has a lot less to do with fighting wars* and a lot more to do with being a jobs program. Which leads to..

      And yes it’s publically funded. It’s one of the few things the constitution actually says the government is allowed to do.

      Yes, the Constitution says "To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;". Ie, it's very patently clear in the language that armies aren't supposed to be long-term things and their continued existence is supposed to be seriously reviewed on a regularly. Since the very beginning of the US it's been clear that isolationism was the preferred international policy. Having standing armies just encourages waging wars*. If you want to argue that standing armies are a modern necessity, then change the Constitution to reflect that. Now, the navy is a different story as that's about actual national defense.

      I think our armed forces are larger than they need to be, but if you don’t rely on voluntary participants that means conscription.

      What the fuck does the former have to do with the latter? Having too many people volunteering just means you have higher standards and refuse people once a quota is reached. It also means you could potentially do other things like reduce prospective benefits to discourage too much of a surplus of volunteers.

      Some countries do this and I’m not sure it’s entirely bad, but that’s another argument. However there’s nothing “free” about that education and if you’re signing up to die for your country (or the misguided fools who run it) then I don’t mind paying for it. Really, they should get more for what many of them give up. At least the Roman senators made their sons commanders.

      Maybe $1,000,000/hour. I mean, the skies the limit, right? Yea, that's bullshit hyperbole, but I do mind paying for an education for some people when there's no reason for them to join the military except to justify it for people like you who refuse to just let people receive a good education regardless. I wonder, do you think people who join the post office should also get a free education? What about various other federal jobs? Is the prospect of death the winning ticket? If we just reduce OSHA standards, do they suddenly get a tuition? Seriously, what's your argument other than some feel good thing about how those who "serve our country" (for certain definitions of "serve") should be paid more? And invoking the Romans of all people is insane.

      But if you think all the military teaches you is to kill, you’re sadly misinformed. If that’s what ours did and practiced, no one would be talking about overpopulation.

      Being part of the military means teaching you to kill. In fact, a large part of it is desensitizing you to the act precisely because

    46. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, we're not interested in socialism.

      The data suggests otherwise.

      Haven't you socialists killed enough people? Nearly 100 million just in the last century. How many failures does it take before you "get it right"?

      Its astounding to me that despite all the evidence of the amazing success of capitalism that people can still stand there stubbornly insisting they deserve other peoples money. Every single one of your arguments crumble to dust the second anyone asks, "How do you intend to pay for it?"

      Congratulations on being an example of how the US educational system is a failure.

    47. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why I mentioned Soros?

      There's an order of magnitude of difference between the cock bros and sores, and sores is on the receiving end of that dildo.

      The cocks just have more russian bots/libertarians (I really can't tell the difference, nor does it matter to me) working for them screaming about how sores is paying protestors and using false equivelences.

    48. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Best thing ever said. It will be downvoted by fuckwits and those that are making money off the student load scam. The reason school is so expensive is because we have garanteed student loans. In the 50s you could pay your way through school working part time. School will cost exactly as much as people are able to pay. If you garantee student loans, then the schools will raise tuition to the point that they will take every bit of that loan money.

      If college loans were unsecured, less loans would be granted. Tuition would decrease, and you would not need to indept yourself for 20 years to pay for a degree.

      Fucking common sense. At least that used to be common sense. Today what i just said is considered racist. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Anyone that offers you a free lunch is setting you up to be conned. Student loans are a big con. The loaner has no skin in the game. The loanee is getting fucked by the college and the banks.

    49. Re: USA your education system is broken by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      Yes, they're called a "public works" or "works programs".

      No, it's not, but even if it were ... that's not what "socialism" means. Apparently you're not the only idiot confused about the meaning of the word though, since the original retard is sitting at +3 right now.

    50. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... not interested in socialism.

      I'm guessing you're another American who has drunk the 'stop socialism now' squash (kool-aid) and assumes you're protecting capitalism.

      Capitalism makes one promise; To make goods efficiently, creating two effects: Making goods cheaper, making wages higher.

      So when you're schools, prisons, medicines, hospitals, internet service get more expensive (than inflation and investment cause); that's not capitalism.

      When wages increase 1.9%, price-inflation is 1.9%, and productivity (a form of efficiency) increases 10%; that's not capitalism. (Aside: Employers providing healthcare/pension may count as a wage increase but it benefits someone else.)

      You might be saved from socialism but you're not experiencing capitalism either.

    51. Re: USA your education system is broken by FuzzyDaddy2 · · Score: 2

      We just want free college and single payer health care. But damn it, no socialism! https://www.reuters.com/invest.... (Scroll to end)

    52. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When Americans complain about "socialism" they mean "government spending" on "stuff I don't like" that "helps transfer that spending to people/corporations". That's why there's "corporate socialism", "military socialism", and just plain "socialism" involving giving out food stamps/medicaid. At the same time, a lot of people refuse to acknowledge that Medicare or Social Security are socialism because they're convinced they "paid" for it so it's somehow not actually socialism.

      So, feel free to argue about 'what "socialism" means' as if Americans give a shit about it's "actual" meaning. Oh, and thanks for calling me a retard. It's good evidence I'm right. You've degenerated into an ad hominem attack instead of trying to justify the spending. Of course, it's virtually impossible to justify around 90% of the spending except as a show of a force to oppress other countries into abiding with crappy trade negotiations, but lots of other countries with much smaller budgets manage that just fine. No, perhaps it's more about suppressing our allies from being any sort of threat, but then we don't like having to actually pay for everything (we don't, but we should given our demands) and bitch when other countries do the rational thing and spend a bit more for jointly defending themselves.

      The best argument to make is that at least the spending is something the Constitution expressly allows. That's the logic that's moving us towards bankruptcy, just like the bullshit "owed" Social Security. Sure, the Constitution allows us to go bankrupt. That doesn't mean it's a good idea.

    53. Re:USA your education system is broken by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      You're welcome to go work for the college at a reduced rate so that they can lower their costs. I'm guessing that whatever company you work for admits or maintains customers on the basis of their ability to pay.

      Most countries subsidise their education systems, because they realize that they need educated workers to survive in the future.

      If that sounds too much like socialism for you, consider this. Do you want to be treated by the best doctor, or the one who could afford to go to medical school?

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    54. Re:USA your education system is broken by mrvan · · Score: 2

      If the U.S. education system is broken it is precisely because it will gladly loan anyone money to go to college regardless of their likelihood of being successful there, the ability for their degree to allow them to earn a living or pay back their loan, or any other sensible metric.

      As a corollary, tuition has gone up to a level that is nonsensical for the purposes of education. In the Netherlands the real cost of university is about 10k euro per year (of which the taxpayer pays about 80%), depending on study programme (bachelors are cheaper than masters because of scale; medicine is more expensive than history; etc). Now, the global top-10 universiteit are not in the Netherlands, but a number of Dutch universities are in the top-100.

      10k a year is something you can save for, or even something you can earn on the side if you are OK with working hard. 60k a year for 3-4 years is not something you can save for as a young person, and not something you can earn waiting tables next to your study. So (unless you have a rich parent) your choices as loans or financial aid.

      Of course, what you are paying for is exclusivity, brand name recognition, and an elite network. These might be worth those kinds of sums, especially if you have dreams of grandeur; but if your ambition is a happy middle class life I think going into 6 figure debt is not going to be worth it.

    55. Re:USA your education system is broken by mrvan · · Score: 1

      Quite a number of countries in the world offer university study for low or zero fees. Germany, Sweden, the Netherlands. These countries are of similar levels of wealth to USA.

      Note that for the Netherlands, fees are only "low" (2k a year) for EU students. Non-EU students are not subsidized and pay full fees (determined by the institution rather than the government). This is generally around 10k a year, so still low by US standards, but shockingly high by German standards...

    56. Re: USA your education system is broken by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Uhh.. He did...

    57. Re:USA your education system is broken by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      You're welcome to go work for the college at a reduced rate so that they can lower their costs. I'm guessing that whatever company you work for admits or maintains customers on the basis of their ability to pay.

      Now now, you know that they want someone else to pay for it.

      That's the part that they never get - that goods and services actually have to come from somewhere.

    58. Re: USA your education system is broken by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      Oh, and thanks for calling me a retard. It's good evidence I'm right.

      Yep, retards are always right. Especially when they're arguing that it doesn't really matter what words mean.

    59. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Charity is socialism. The voluntary kind.

    60. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two corporations enter! One monopoly leaves! All heil Thunderdome!

    61. Re: USA your education system is broken by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Hey, at least he's using his money for something good that most people can agree with in the US, rather than trying to force his anti 2A views and try to strip gun rights away from people in states that want to keep them.

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    62. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe it is because socialism, as a system, is based upon using force against your fellow citizen that it also so happens the worst atrocities visited upon citizens by their own governments have been inflicted by socialist governments. It is a matter of, as Friedman said, being true to the values socialism encourages in those living under that system. Here is a list of the largest killings in the 20th century of citizens by their own governments:

              40-70 million killed. China under Chairman Mao. Single Party Socialism. 1958-61 “The Great Leap Forward”.
              20 million killed. USSR under Joseph “socialism in one country” Stalin. 1936-52 “The Great Purge”.
              40 million killed. USSR under all other leaders.
              4 million killed. Cambodia under Pol Pot. Communist. 1975-79.
              1.6 million murdered; 4 million killed in hard labor. North Korea under Kim Il Sung. Independent socialist State.
              1.15 million killed. Yugoslavia under Josip ” socialist federation President” Tito. 1945-65.
              1 million total killed. Ethiopia under Menghistu. Communist. 1975-1978 “The Red Terror.”
              1 million killed. Indonesia under Suharto. Communist. 1966.
              1 million killed from genocide; this does not include war casualties. Afghanistan under Brezhnev. Communist. 1979 – 1981.
              800,000 killed. Rwanda under Jean Kambanda. 1994. Socialist.

      The old expression was that “Socialism Breeds Mediocrity, Capitalism Breeds Exceptionalism.” As the numbers above show you socialism breeds a lot more than mediocrity.

      Sources:

              “Statistics of Democide” by Dr. RJ Rummel
              “Final Solutions: Mass Killing and Genocide in the 20th Century” by Dr Benjamin A. Valentin
              “Afghanistan: The Soviet Invasion and the Afghan Response, 1979-1982” by M. Hassan Kaka

    63. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      virtual signaling

      I thought that was the act of posting on social media to draw more attention to yourself.

    64. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Make America Grotesque Again?

    65. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      which I'll let you Google

      I stopped doing other people's homework in High School.

    66. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      funny, you were arguing against socialism but used numbers from communism to make your point. You do know there is a difference between the two right? oh wait, does that ruin your straw man argument?

      mao was communist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
      Stalin was communist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
      Jean Kambanda was a republican democrat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      This is the problem, definitions don't matter any more even back then words were used to describe things that they were not (con men will always exist and you were trying to pull a con in your comment). Alot of these people used the word socialism as a way to conceal their true goals of totalitarian rule and yet to this day people keep bringing these things out as socialism. Even the Miriam Webster dictionary says socialism has several different meanings so instead of trotting out the boogey man of "socialism" why dont you actually articulate your argument and tell us what you are opposed to because i am sure that everyone would agree that they are against totalitarian rule like all of the examples that you gave above.

      Public infrastructure is socialism, otherwise i could buy the road and all the property around your house and force you to stay on your property or pay me rent every time you stepped off your property. So please understand that there is nuance to this world and the same totalitarian ideals that you espouse are from the same foundation that killed all those millions of people that everyone keeps lumping under Socialism and Communism (even though those are two different political ideals).

    67. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All countries run by a Fascist dictator, right? I'm surprised frankly that you didn't list how many people (blacks mainly) died under the Apartheid regime in South Africa. But then that doesn't fit your narrative because South Africa is, and was, a capitalist "democracy."

      Now tell us how many people have been killed by Socialism in Sweden? Or France? Or gosh, dare I say it, America?

      Because yes, even we have Socialism.

      Personally I'd love to see just how well you'd fare if we took away your police and fire departments, and the paved roads, and the public schools, and the highway system and airports that make it easy and inexpensive for farmers to get their food to the markets where you can buy it.

      I guess it's because you actually want those things, so you're personally happy that the rest of us were forced to pay (taxes) to build them so that you (and everyone else) can use them. Amirite? All while pretending that those things aren't exactly what real Socialism is all about.

      It's only when you think your arm is being twisted – e.g. by being required to buy health insurance (like a grownup) so that the risk pool isn't full of only sick and old people – that you suddenly think socialism is bad.

      Which flavor of Kool-Aid is Breitbart serving this week?

    68. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and how many of your employees - who you brag about trying to hard to not pay at all - have been educated in a purely capitalist system? don't pretend that you don't benefit from the "socialism" that runs education in the country where you currently reside.

    69. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personally I'd love to see just how well you'd fare if we took away your police and fire departments, and the paved roads, and the public schools, and the highway system and airports that make it easy and inexpensive for farmers to get their food to the markets where you can buy it.

      I guess it's because you actually want those things, so you're personally happy that the rest of us were forced to pay (taxes) to build them so that you (and everyone else) can use them. Amirite? All while pretending that those things aren't exactly what real Socialism is all about.

      I would love it if you took all the above mentioned away. I live in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan where my father was the youngest of 15 kids (big farm family). We all are self sufficient, grow our own food, raise cattle/chickens and hunt deer and other wild game for food. We've learned to always can food from the garden to hold you over through the winter until the next year.

      One of my cousin's started a General Contracting company so we have any equipment needed to make our own roads. In fact my cousin owns about 4000 aces of land and has created and maintains those roads for family/friends to enjoy and hunt in.

      I don't need farmers for my food because I can grow/hunt my own food. Fishing is also huge up here with the great lakes you can get Salmon, Walleye, Perch. You can get trout and bluegill in many of the lakes/rivers. Food isn't hard to come by with a little effort and knowledge.

      If the entire system where we have to use people's taxes to pay for roads etc were to disappear overnight our community of family/friends would survive and be perfectly okay. As far as police/fire departments they are nice to have, however everyone owns at least one gun in the country and if you are being robbed the time it would take police to get to your house would render them useless in an immediate situation.

      We help our neighbors up here and I probably know more of my neighbors than most people know their neighbors in apartments and there is over a mile between houses.

      I would rather use my resources/funds to help my own family and community and those that we deem worthy than have to pay for every else's shit.

      Good job making assumptions.

    70. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes I have actually seen articles where criticism of Soros that seemed completely legitimate was instantly called antisemitism. Personally I don't care about his religion, ethnicity or birth nationality. I DO care that he destabilized a currency for personal gain which is HUGELY sociopathic. And then he said his brief foray into honest work convinced him that such work was not for him. For real he said this and it was a sales job which is like sticking your toe into the pool of honest work.

      I disagree with your calling him left leaning. I find him to be the opposite. In fact I find him to be a major destructive force against liberal thought and capability. His sponsorship in politics seems to be for the purpose of throttling actual leftism and replacing it with his brand of hyper conservative corporatism. It's all about identity politics and complete and utter betrayal of actual liberal principles and philosophy. The chaos of a Marxist mob rather than a continuation of Locke's philosophy. In fact his specialty is identifying cooperative inefficiencies and taking personal advantage of them. He is basically the anti-liberal. Soros hated Communism and his family fled this. Unfortunately I believe he equates the efficient social organization and egalitarianism of western society with the aspects of Communism that he despises. It appears he despises more than just honest work. He despises honest workers.

    71. Re:USA your education system is broken by geek · · Score: 1

      Socialism is the economic component of Communism you dumb fuck.

    72. Re: USA your education system is broken by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      No, it's not, but even if it were ... that's not what "socialism" means.

      One of the hallmarks of real-world socialism was full employment (the the attendant criminalization of unemployment), but that often involved something effectively equal to "distributed" public works, in forms of make-work jobs and systemic inefficiencies in state companies.

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  2. Elite (albeit Baltimore) university gets the goods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hopefully there is room at the inn for some of the less well healed Mr. Bloomberg.

  3. Come on, Give it to the Dems!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Beto could have won with just 10% of that amount!

  4. Obvious next step? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The school will now probably start charging higher tuition fees.

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  5. Price matters a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is a big difference between tuition costing $3,000, $10,000, $25,000, or $60,000 per year.

    1. Re:Price matters a lot by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      The problem is that the education bureaucracies are like sponges. Pouring more money in just causes them to spend more on their own purposes. Which often are only tangential to undergrad education.

  6. Great News for JH! by biggaijin · · Score: 0

    This substantial grant of money for undergraduate tuition aid will allow the university to raise their tuition and get more revenue. This will allow them to hire even more administrators and assistant deans of student diversity and such. A big win fro everyone. Especially the administrators.

  7. That's nice and all by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Now how about we restore the lost federal and state funding that was cut by this country's right wing politicians (from both parties, Yes, I'm calling out the Clinton Democrats here too)?

    I like my schools to be independent, not begging for scraps from billionaires.

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    1. Re:That's nice and all by gtall · · Score: 1

      While I applaud the sentiment for restoring lost federal and state money, Johns Hopkins is a private institution.

      Just restoring state funding (I don't believe the federal government supports unis directly, just through research grants and such), won't solve the problem that state unis have expanded their bureaucracy. I don't know of any solution to that except whacking the unis and restarting. That can not work either because rebuilding a uni doesn't just happen because you declare it to be so.

      An additional problem is that a fair number of pols don't believe in science, or the humanities, or the arts, or engineering. Different groups in both major parties oppose these for various reasons with the biggest reason "ignorance". They are stupid and do not like smart people telling them to stop talking out of their asses about things they know nothing about.

    2. Re:That's nice and all by alvinrod · · Score: 2

      If the colleges would cut the useless administrative bloat (see The Changing of the Guard: The Political Economy of Administrative Bloat in American Higher Education) that they've acquired, I suspect that government funding could even be decreased further. Tax payers are uninterested in funding the expensive adult daycare that college has become for a large number of students.

      If the government would get out of the student loan business, this problem would likely become self-correcting.

    3. Re:That's nice and all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The state universities have expanded their bureaucracies primarily because of federal mandates, mainly from Title IX, but also due to political demands, such as "diversity officers."

      The question about Bloomberg's bequest is whether it truly is for those who can't pay, or whether it is for those who have the right oppression credentials; i.e., whether it will be used as a form of affirmative action.

  8. It's Refreshing by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 0

    To see a socialist donate their own money toward their objective instead of that of someone else, and actually hit the objective instead of forming a PAC with it.
    If more of them took this tack they'd likely have more followers.

    1. Re: It's Refreshing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bloomberg has made his donation publically and is receiving the accolades of men. He has received his full reward.

  9. Well I guess we now know who won... by 3seas · · Score: 2

    ...the 1.6 billion $ lottery

  10. Need-blind admissions by AHuxley · · Score: 0

    Is that on merit? So the very best get into a top university and can then move into work ready to be productive?
    Such people could just be given a scholarship after showing they have the academic skills to win out over people seeking the same scholarship.
    Want a top university?
    Select the very best students from all over the USA on merit only.
    Do great on your exams and tests and be one of the best in the USA.
    Know that academics is the key to getting in.

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    1. Re:Need-blind admissions by bug_hunter · · Score: 2

      Do we need admissions to be that blind?

      What about somebody who gets 90% on their tests but their parents fund them and pay for a private tutor vs
      A person who gets 80% on their tests but also works two jobs to cover living expenses and fees?

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    2. Re:Need-blind admissions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shoot the rich?

    3. Re:Need-blind admissions by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Having "two jobs" is not an academic skill.
      Why should a person who put in the effort not get a place on merit?
      They sit exams and tests, worked hard and know how to study?
      Should a university fill up with students who get "80%" but get allowed in for reasons other than merit?
      75%? 65%? How low can that academic side slide to cover for a "person" who "works two jobs"?

      What happens when a student who can't/won't study gets into face the tests and exams a year or two into university?
      They cant study, cant pass their exams, take keep up with the students who can study?
      Give them a free pass so they as a "works two jobs" person can stay on campus for free for a few more years to learn how to study?
      What about all the students who did not get accepted but had great study skills? Who had a "private tutor" and would have done really well?
      Attempts like that got made in the US mil under Project 100,000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... .
      All the US mil had to do was find people to look after the people who would have failed to enter the mil under normal testing.

      Filling up the best US universities with people who cant study will not result in better graduates.
      Keeping people who can study out on the best universities for people who cant study wont improve US wide academic results.

      A skilled person should be ready to study and not be getting 80% after years of education before university.
      A university can only accept so many people on campus every year. Select on merit who are the best in their generation.
      Not the people who cant study after many years of trying.

      Getting 90% shows a bit more ability to study. The ability to study more for years.

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  11. There is already too much money in politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ugh. People outside of the top 10 percent could support elections when every 2 years, only a couple of billion dollars is spent. Higher income people would provide money. Lower income people can provide door to door evangelizing, or manning phone banks.

    I'm kind of surprised all the Silicon Valley Billionaires haven't got together to spend billions of dollars, to bribe all of Congress to bring in more Indians and Chinese.

  12. Stupid. Almost 2 billion wasted... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's amazing how affordable education can be if the costs are low, especially housing costs. Buying expensive land to expand schools simply means making the previous landowners rich, and paying higher real estate taxes.

    Pro-tip: governments are exceedingly wasteful and only should take over burdens that cannot be provided by private industry. Build schools in needy and less costly areas (think the flyover states) instead and let society reap the rewards, not politicians and downtown real estate barons.

  13. Wrong answer by sunking2 · · Score: 1, Troll

    All this does is encourage prices to continue to go up, even more so than student loans.

    1. Re:Wrong answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, do nothing then. Good plan.

    2. Re:Wrong answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this gift is enough to fully cover upwards of 5000 students, or more, every year... forever

      it also buys him a little publicity should he, now that he's officially a democrat again, launch a 2020 run at the white house... but he's in the same age range as hillary, biden, and bernie (and our current moron-in-chief, for that matter). the party (and the country) needs someone from a younger generation, though.. like klobuchar, booker, gillibrand, or o'rourke, etc...

    3. Re: Wrong answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unlikely he will make a serious run soon. He has publicly stated his plans and he likes what he is doing now

    4. Re:Wrong answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is correct. Within a few years, tuition will rise, associate professor salaries will fall, and administrative compensation will soak up the difference.

    5. Re:Wrong answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A good plan would be to fund online classes and build more computer terminals in public libraries.

    6. Re:Wrong answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this gift is enough to fully cover upwards of 5000 students, or more, every year... forever

      .

      I think you are excessively optimistic. You might be able to count on spending about 2% per year of the initial amount in order to keep up with inflation and accommodate down years. If you figure it costs $50,000 per year per student, then he will be able to fund about 720 students per year.

    7. Re: Wrong answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Public libraries? Let me translate that for you: SQUAK: SOCIALISM!! SQUAK!

  14. Many thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one would like to thank Mr. Bloomberg for this kind gesture. It's like levelling the playing field. And to think that just yesterday, we were just reading about the fall of that tech giant (hint: the one that picked Long Island for their HQ)

    1. Re:Many thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The gift founding William and Mary was even larger when adjusted for inflation. In hindsight it is clear they didn't deserve it. I suppose they will make Bloomberg the extinguished lecturer in terminal boredom? All well and good for them, but what about the rest of us who toil in japanese car factories for a living?

  15. In usa just about any one can get a student loan by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    In usa just about any one can get a student loan even at schools like trump-u

  16. Re:Stupid. Almost 2 billion wasted... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's amazing how affordable education can be if the costs are low, especially housing costs. Buying expensive land to expand schools simply means ... paying higher real estate taxes.

    News alert: Non-profits like churches and universities pay no property taxes. Sometimes they pay a PILOT (Payment In Lieu Of Taxes.) to offset the loss of property taxes they would have otherwise paid.

    Johns Hopkins is a not-for-profit institution. So are many other private universities like Harvard, MIT, and Stanford.

  17. Thanks for the inflation! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now that there's more money going into financial aid, the university can jack up tuition without necessarily losing bodies! Well, except for those who won't get financial aid of course...they're going to have to take on even more debt now.

  18. True but he's giving up that much cash by rsilvergun · · Score: 1, Interesting

    because he perceives a lack of available education. At least in theory. Restoring the state funding would go a lot further to fixing that.

    Read the article I linked to. Very little of the increased cost of education is because of increased overhead. It's almost all down to decreased funding from the fed/state.

    And there's nothing special about those "pols" (?, do you mean proletariat?). Taken in aggregate poor folks aren't any dumber than rich folks. What you're seeing is people with limited information who are doing bad economically looking for a solution and billionaire's media outlets (Fox News, Sinclair Media, Right wing Talk Radio) pushing a plausitive narrative.

    If you want folks to stop falling for that snake oil the solution is more education. During the 2016 campaign there were interviews with folks making good money off fake news to drive page views and ads. It was almost 100% right wing fake news and when asked the folks running the sites were candid about why: when they tried left wing fake news it got shot down as B.S. in no time. That's not because right wing folks are dumber, it's because left wing folks have generally had more education and education teaches critical thinking.

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    1. Re:True but he's giving up that much cash by PeeAitchPee · · Score: 0

      That's not because right wing folks are dumber, it's because left wing folks have generally had more education and education teaches critical thinking.

      And even with all that education, the left wing folks still haven't figured out that being smug pricks with a superiority complex doesn't get people to vote for their team.

    2. Re: True but he's giving up that much cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And even with all that education, the left wing folks still haven't figured out that being smug pricks with a superiority complex doesn't get people to vote for their team.

      What are you talking about? That is incredibly successful as an attitude and posture, it is the tendency of the left-wing to be self-abasing and deprecating of themselves that has caused them problems,

      Really, boastful bravado is incredibly popular and effective, introspective conscientious consideration of the opposition just doesn't work as well.

    3. Re:True but he's giving up that much cash by alvinrod · · Score: 2, Informative

      The article you linked to makes a terrible mistake in that it looks at funding per student instead of the overall cost. I'd suggest this article in the NY Times which does a good job of explaining the flaws in the reasoning in the article you've presented. I'd link to other articles, but you have a tendency of dismissing the source without bothering to read it so you get the Times, which if you could successfully dismiss as "right wing" would constitute such an amazing display of mental gymnastics that even the fucking Russian judge would have to give you a 10.

  19. Good for bloomberg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He talks the talk and he walked the walk. Any other billionaires out there care to get out their checkbooks and give some serious unrestricted gifts like Mikey did?

  20. He will probably require... by charles05663 · · Score: 0

    He will probably require you to sign and support some sort of gun control agenda in order to be eligible for the money. He is simply prepaying for his gun control agenda.

  21. And then 2 months later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And in related news, admissions to John Hopkins has quadrupled in one month with plans to further increase another 8-fold in the coming 2 years. Administrators say students will see no change as the difference is made up by a giant pile of cash they can only access through student scholarships...

  22. The left figured that out ages ago by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Informative

    Clinton Democrats OTOH did not.

    Folks keep mixing up the right wing of the Democratic party with the left. They are not.

    For example, Nancy Pelosi is not a member of the left. The actual left is currently trying to oust her from her speakership, and they tried to primary her but she had so much cash she buried her primary challenger.

    Listen to Bernie. To Liz Warren. To Ro Khanna. They're the left, and they're trying to unite the working class for better pay, universal, guaranteed as a right healthcare, clean air and water and worker's rights.

    You're right about the Clinton Democrats though. They behave like the GOP 90% of the time, so the only thing they've got to run on is phony social issues. Like the actual GOP all they've got is identity politics and fat sacks of cash from their donors. Don't fall for it. There's a real left, and they're the party of the working class.

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    1. Re:The left figured that out ages ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Listen to Bernie.

      Except that he isn’t actually a Democrat; he just hijacks the party when it’s convenient for his desired ends.

  23. You would suspect that by rsilvergun · · Score: 1, Interesting

    but you're suspicions are incorrect. Best case scenario useless bloat drops the price of college 10%, see article I linked to above.

    And tax payers should either start funding it or start supporting Hilary Clinton's open borders. Otherwise we're not going to have the workers needed to keep your 401k solvent in time for you to retire. Like it or not those adults need economic growth in order to maintain their quality of life. Without an educated population we're not gonna have that growth. Say good by to Social Security and Medicare too. And say hello to Purina Brand Dog chow for dinner in your 60s.

    I'm just kidding, you think you'll be able to afford the name brand stuff?

    Oh, and get ready for the Gulags. See, what do you suppose is going to happen when you have tens of millions of unemployable men in their 20s and 30s who can't balance an equation but can hold a rifle?

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  24. Donations as Fuel by SaBumNim · · Score: 2

    What stops Johns Hopkins from raising their tuition on incoming students by the interest on the endowment (or more)? This would leave students exactly where they were, which the market has proven it would bear. After all, they have to maintain their competitive position...

  25. This money would be much better spent by melted · · Score: 1

    This money would be much better spent on bribing politicians in congress to solve this problem legislatively. Same as with healthcare, if there's no upper bound on how much money can be wasted on administration, underwater basketweaving courses that produce solely McDonalds employees, "organic" caffes, facilities, etc, then there will be no upper bound on tuition. Put an upper bound on administrative expenses at the very least in state schools, and possibly in private ones as well. Refocus higher ed on actual education rather than activism. Put structures in place under which companies would find it attractive to fund higher ed for in-demand professions in exchange to access to top talent pool universities produce. Stuff like that. Be creative. Just giving them $1.8B is pointless and temporary.

  26. Ways to spend $1.8 on education by myid · · Score: 1

    Here are some other ways to spend $1.8 billion on education:

    1) Set up low-cost schools that teach people basic school skills, such as basic math, science, and grammar. (Don't forget the people who need help in these areas.)

    2) Set up schools that concentrate in one area - for example, music, auto repair, or STEM. One of these STEM schools doesn't teach PE or women's studies. It just teaches STEM classes. These schools wouldn't force you to take classes unrelated to your major.

    3) In these schools, make sure that the teacher does a thorough job of grading your homework. For example if you turn in code, the teacher should check whether your code is efficient, well-structured, etc.

    4) Buy the rights to outstanding educational books, an then distribute the books freely online.

    5) For books with outstanding authors (people who explain things well), if the author is willing to do so, set up a website for each book. Pay the author to answer questions that were sent in by people who read that book. (This is an alternative way to learn.)

    6) Pay researchers to find out how universities have been spending their money for each of the last 25 years (to show the trends), and publicize the findings. Taxpayers might ask, "My tax money has been spent for that?!" That might help bring down the tuition prices.

    7) Pay for this project: Ask thousands of hiring managers to write some questions and answers (which will be peer-reviewed). Ask the manager to categorize the questions (ex: Java / beginning / inheritance). Collect the questions and answers into a database. Then if a company is willing to consider hiring a self-taught entry-level Java programmer employee, the company can use beginning Java questions in the database to test the job applicant. If you're self-taught, then you can prove what you know by the projects that you did, and by passing the test.

    8) To encourage employers to hire student interns, pay part of the interns' salaries. (A student job really helps you see what the "real world" is like. Also, the student and employer get a chance to check each other out.)

    9) Remember, not everyone want to go into IT. Some people prefer to drive trucks, or to be a professional cook. Remember to set up truck-driving schools and cooking schools.

    10) Also remember that the basic goal is not helping the student to go to a particular school. The basic goal is to teach the student. If the student can learn in ways other than by going to the particular school (ex: by individual study), then fine. Let's help the student do individual study.

  27. Re:In usa just about any one can get a student loa by alvinrod · · Score: 1

    That’s exactly the problem. It’s hardly any surprise that predatory organizations like that crop up when there’s easy money on the table.

  28. all of this by sad_ · · Score: 1

    wouldn't it be great this would be available for everybody all the time?

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  29. Couldnt agree more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "America is at its best when we reward people based on the quality of their work, not the size of their pocketbook"

    Yup - time to get rid of affirmative action.

    1. Re:Couldnt agree more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since when do underprivileged minorities have large pocketbooks?

      Ohhhhhh, you're talking about the rich white sponsors who lobby Congress to allow them to force companies to have diversity quotas.

  30. You're welcome by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

    You're welcome :)

    (What's that you say? The posts here are not expressing simple gratitude? ;) )

  31. Bloomberg is a clown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no doubt some anti-white donation going on here. My guess:
    - Only non White students get the grants.
    - Bonus grants for the mentally retarded and gender non binaries.

  32. We need something like Godwin's Law for Soros by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Better Bloomberg and Gates than Soros.

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  35. Amend the constitution first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Show me where in our nation's constitution where the federal government is authorized to fund and regulate education.

    Education - all of it - was left to the states to implement as they saw fit.

    If individual states want to provide free education for their residents - they are free to do so. The federal government should stay out of education entirely.