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Democrats Intend To Probe Ivanka Trump's Use of Personal Email In Next Congress (go.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from ABC News: Amid reports that first daughter and White House senior advisor Ivanka Trump exchanged hundreds of official government business emails using a personal email account, top Democrats on Capitol Hill "want to know if Ivanka complied with the law" and in the next Congress plan to continue their investigation of the Presidential Records Act and Federal Records Act. Rep. Elijah Cummings, the ranking Democrat who's in line to become the next chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee next year, promises any potential investigation into Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump's emails won't be like the "spectacle" Republicans led in the Clinton email probe.
The Oversight committee has jurisdiction over records and transparency laws, and Cummings helped write an update to the Presidential and Federal Records Acts that was signed into law by President Barack Obama in 2014. That measure mandates that every federal employee, including the President, forward any message about official business sent using a private account to the employee's official email account within 20 days. "We launched a bipartisan investigation last year into White House officials' use of private email accounts for official business, but the White House never gave us the information we requested," Cummings, D-Md., noted. "We need those documents to ensure that Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, and other officials are complying with federal records laws and there is a complete record of the activities of this Administration. My goal is to prevent this from happening again -- not to turn this into a spectacle the way Republicans went after Hillary Clinton. My main priority as Chairman will be to focus on the issues that impact Americans in their everyday lives."
The Oversight committee has jurisdiction over records and transparency laws, and Cummings helped write an update to the Presidential and Federal Records Acts that was signed into law by President Barack Obama in 2014. That measure mandates that every federal employee, including the President, forward any message about official business sent using a private account to the employee's official email account within 20 days. "We launched a bipartisan investigation last year into White House officials' use of private email accounts for official business, but the White House never gave us the information we requested," Cummings, D-Md., noted. "We need those documents to ensure that Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, and other officials are complying with federal records laws and there is a complete record of the activities of this Administration. My goal is to prevent this from happening again -- not to turn this into a spectacle the way Republicans went after Hillary Clinton. My main priority as Chairman will be to focus on the issues that impact Americans in their everyday lives."
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Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
To be clear, it's not necessarily a crime that a private server existed, or that it was used for official business. Usually, any criminal statutes require knowledge and intent of the crime being committed.
For example, even if there is classified information on this server, that would be a security violation, but not a crime unless someone intended to mishandle the information. Just because someone "should have known better" does not actually mean they're guilty.
How about we focus on fixing the violations, get everything into compliance, and move on with business as usual, eh? Just like we should have done with Clinton's incident...
You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
Why is it at least 1/3rd of the stories on this site are basically just ORANGE MAN BAD. It's fucking exhausting.
Everyone keeps comparing this to what Hillary did. Not sure why.
She was using a non-government account for government business. Hillary set us her own email sever in an unoccupied house and transferred classified information on to it.
These things are not comparable.
Ivanka Trump is a Senior Adviser to the White House, who gets a nice taxpayer paycheck. She is not "just the President's daughter".
We're about to see how well the "just the president's child" works for Don Jr.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Thank goodness the President's daughter has no kind of official role in the Administration, otherwise you might look like a pillock who's attempting to be disingenuous by leaving out pertinent facts that even those with only a passing acquaintance with American politics are already aware of.
and go after him for violations of the emoluments clause. Then we can worry about little things like this. I don't want political theater designed to keep Clinton Democrats busy, I want the rule of law restored.
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Spectacle cause they will looking for a crime this time instead of when it was Clinton, looking for way to make sure a crime wasn't found.
Just charge both Hillary and Ivanka now with violating Espionage Act and be done with it already. Let the chips fall where they may.
Yes, she was. The emails were sent in 2017. She's been a Senior White House adviser on the government payroll since January 22, 2017. She used her personal email to conduct White House business throughout 2017.
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You are welcome on my lawn.
Maybe two, maybe three. One is at a runoff. But the Democrats won the majority of seats up for grabs this year.
They were expected to win more than they did.
But it doesn't seem to matter. They already put whomever on the court.
No, the Republicans put carefully considered and middle of the road SC candidates forward - because they thought it mattered and were expecting rational debate. Now they know none of that is true so expect the next candidate to really be a far right option, thanks to what the Democrats did to the very middle of the road candidates the Republicans offered. That is why what the Democrats did was tactically insane.
You also don't seem to understand that the whole House stands for election
I don't think you understand what *I* am saying relies on exactly that point. After two years of utter Democratic lunacy on open display what do you think will happen to the whole House? It will be savage, absolutely savage for the Democrats next election if they do even just the things they are promising to do.
You mean, aside from pass laws. Yeah, they can fuck up the judiciary, but other than that they're pretty unable to effect change.
Ha ha ha you think law is the only way to effect change. HA HAH AHAH HA HAAH PHOHAH AHAH HA H AHHA AH AH AHAHA HAHA HAH AH AH AH A AH AHHAHA HA HAH.
Trump just isn't a stunning genius. His skill is media manipulation and flooding the zone
As they say, in the land of the blind... and Trump is in the land of politicians.
But Trump doesn't have to be a genius for any of what I say to come to pass. The Democrats just have to be complete idiots, which they have managed to show they can in fact hold to for years in a row now, with only acceleration along that vector evident. They appear to have zero sense of what effective long term tactics would be.
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that this is allowed, if not expected. Moreover, the Trump family could easily destroy all the evidence during the investigation.
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Not according to polls. And not according to history. I mean, you have to go back to Nixon's impeachment^W resignation to get a similar bump.
They're just drawing them from the Heritage Foundation list. That's all that's going to happen. And, I'm not sure who you think sits to the far-right compared to these people.
Now, maybe Trump tries to put his sister on the court, if he thinks he can push that through.
Well, we can definitely agree on this.
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Sometimes I think the founders designed the systen to keep the bossy people busy arguing so they couldn't actually effectively boss the rest of us around. It took over 200 years for them to manage to become really bothersome.
We had 28 months of Hillary being investigated (after 8 prior investigations on the same subject), and there were no charges. 28 months of Ivanka being investigated,and we'll see if there are any charges to be had. The hypocrites in this case would be all the whiny little bitches who foamed at the mouth for Hillary to be investigated (she was), but for Ivanka to not be investigated.
What needs to happen is you to pull your head out of your ass and learn what words mean before using them.
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So, she worked as a Senior Adviser for nine months last year, during which she conducted White House business via a personal email account. The January date was just when she moved into her own office in the West Wing. She has been on the government payroll since 3/29/2017.
Thank you for clearing that up.
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That's not true. It's possible that one doesn't know it's classified, and/or that it was an inadvertent accident. As I mentioned elsewhere, H didn't receive proper training, and the markings do resemble those used in legal documents.
Now if somebody is properly trained AND accidentally expose or put-at-risk classified materials, the legal standard is "gross negligence", which is typically a pretty high hurdle. Ordinary accidents by themselves don't usually lead to felonies. Dismissal and fines, perhaps, but probably not jail.
After all, many of the lawmakers would be subject to the very secrecy laws they write, and they don't want to be jailed for their own inadvertent mistakes. Thus, they usually write it up as requiring either "intent" or large-scale repeat screwups.
Being H wasn't properly trained, "gross negligence" probably doesn't qualify. It took a chain of people screwing up incrementally to pull that off (including the training roster manager).
There's also the issue that H was supposed to hand over all work-related emails to the court per subpoena. However, some were inadvertently excluded, considered "personal" by her team. But, there was no evidence they were intentionally excluded, because the later-recovered "excluded" emails didn't contain anything of significance in terms of making a case of "intentional". The lawyers she hired were essentially sloppy in their review process.
To be fair, if the average person had to read roughly 20k emails and sort them ALL properly based on the text, they'd probably screw up a handful. Thus, it's ordinary negligence, not "gross" negligence. A jury is not likely to convict based on a mistake they themselves might make.
Essentially, the laws as written are weak because lawmakers don't want to screw themselves.
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when he's under investigation for violation of the emoluments clause. Which he will be soon. The Dems, assuming they have any backbone, will be nailing him to the wall over that. Not because of partisanship (though they could do with a bit more of that, ever since that bastard Gingrich started open war in the House the Dems have been getting their asses kicked and the country is much worse off for it) but because having a president who can and will be bought off by foreign powers is terrifying. That's something we should all agree on.
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The fact that the events happened a while ago does not make this old news. It only came to light now and that is why it is new news. I'm glad to be able to clear that confusion up for you. What's old news is the fact that the President himself has used an unsecured phone from the outset and conducts business pertaining to national security in insecure locations, such as dining rooms with members of the public present. It would be new news if he went to jail for that. It would also be the right thing to happen, but it won't.
I'm glad you think that what we know about what Ivanka did so far is unimportant. Personally, I'm not much minded to just take the word of people who clearly have an interest in downplaying the severity of the breach, but I'm thrilled for you that you think they're trustworthy.
She wasn't an official before she was hired and had access to a Federal e-mail account. Dumbass.
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