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Is Linux Taking Over The World? (networkworld.com)
"2019 just might be the Year of Linux -- the year in which Linux is fully recognized as the powerhouse it has become," writes Network World's "Unix dweeb."
The fact is that most people today are using Linux without ever knowing it -- whether on their phones, online when using Google, Facebook, Twitter, GPS devices, and maybe even in their cars, or when using cloud storage for personal or business use. While the presence of Linux on all of these systems may go largely unnoticed by consumers, the role that Linux plays in this market is a sign of how critical it has become. Most IoT and embedded devices -- those small, limited functionality devices that require good security and a small footprint and fill so many niches in our technology-driven lives -- run some variety of Linux, and this isn't likely to change. Instead, we'll just be seeing more devices and a continued reliance on open source to drive them.
According to the Cloud Industry Forum, for the first time, businesses are spending more on cloud than on internal infrastructure. The cloud is taking over the role that data centers used to play, and it's largely Linux that's making the transition so advantageous. Even on Microsoft's Azure, the most popular operating system is Linux. In its first Voice of the Enterprise survey, 451 Research predicted that 60 percent of nearly 1,000 IT leaders surveyed plan to run the majority of their IT off premises by 2019. That equates to a lot of IT efforts relying on Linux. Gartner states that 80 percent of internally developed software is now either cloud-enabled or cloud-native.
The article also cites Linux's use in AI, data lakes, and in the Sierra supercomputer that monitors America's nuclear stockpile, concluding that "In its domination of IoT, cloud technology, supercomputing and AI, Linux is heading into 2019 with a lot of momentum."
And there's even a long list of upcoming Linux conferences...
According to the Cloud Industry Forum, for the first time, businesses are spending more on cloud than on internal infrastructure. The cloud is taking over the role that data centers used to play, and it's largely Linux that's making the transition so advantageous. Even on Microsoft's Azure, the most popular operating system is Linux. In its first Voice of the Enterprise survey, 451 Research predicted that 60 percent of nearly 1,000 IT leaders surveyed plan to run the majority of their IT off premises by 2019. That equates to a lot of IT efforts relying on Linux. Gartner states that 80 percent of internally developed software is now either cloud-enabled or cloud-native.
The article also cites Linux's use in AI, data lakes, and in the Sierra supercomputer that monitors America's nuclear stockpile, concluding that "In its domination of IoT, cloud technology, supercomputing and AI, Linux is heading into 2019 with a lot of momentum."
And there's even a long list of upcoming Linux conferences...
You're soaking in it!
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You can't be ahead of the curve, if you're stuck in a loop.
Now? Lol. If anything, shitty IOT one-off landfill devices are taking over the world.
I would say Linux is already basking in the glow of having outstanding server share. It's just the desktop experience that leaves alot to be desired.
No
Linux laptop exists with power management on par with Windows. The basic kernel and userland are fine; it's just that there is no hardware support to speak of. (Sure, it "runs", but it is mostly a battery burner. )
Linux destroyed UNIX, BSD, and Windows Server many years ago.
We want Year of Linux on the Desktop!!! And that's still not happening anytime soon...
I hesitate to give them the full "Linux" designation if they're not actually full OSS, upgradeable, patchable, moderate-sec devices. "Backdoored *nix bricks" might be more accurate.
Don't forget all the SOHO wireless routers, NAS storage devices, probably TVs, DVRs, and a whole pile of other home appliances.
The one place Linux has been way behind is on the Desktop/Laptop,
Microsoft has been fighting tooth and nail to keep Linux Desktop at bay. Giving away millions of free copies of Windows 10 was part of this strategy.
This is being typed on a battered old laptop running Xubuntu with xfce. I think I booted Vista on once to check if it supported manual fan controls. It's probably 7 years old and works fine for me (I am not a gamer on PC systems)
It's greedy megacorps like Google, Facebook and whatnot that have taken over Linux as a commodity OS they have complete access to the source code of, and don't have to pay a cent in royalties to deploy by the hundreds of millions of seats.
What's taken over the world is those companies' disgusting and heinous application stacks that happen to run on Linux.
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
Corporations who use FOSS are taking over the world
FOSS provides the means for them to concentrate their power by making them more independent of other greedy software corporations who used to fight them for it.
FOSS assists in a concentration of power by select corporations.
Not the way i hoped it would work out.
As /.'s former poster child for Windows - I like Linux & KDE latest/greatest + dev tool FreePascal + Lazarus IDE, does all I need.
* Do I think Linux makes a GOOD DESKTOP OS too? You bet (posted from KUbuntu 18.04 LTS fully patched).
APK
P.S.=> It's inevitable free wins over pay-for ANYTHING once it plays enough "catchup ball" (which Linux & it's surrounding DESKTOP apps imo, for the most part, have)... apk
I've been reading Slashdot for 20 years and the year of the Linux desktop has always been at at hand.
It's finally been shortened to "the year of Linux" to finally admit desktop Linux will never happen and to reshape the claim to fit the reality for once.
But the year of linux isn't really here. The populace aren't really using Linux are they? Most experience of Linux is Android, or a cloud service, somewhere buried under a stack of abstraction is linux, and that in many cases could be replaced by a new OS without the user even noticing. Examples Fuschia (Google), Tizen (Samsung).
After logging in slashdot still does not take you back to the page you were on. It's been that way for 20 years.
Google is working on replacing the Linux kernel: Fuchsia uses the "Magenta" kernel. Linux on the desktop is missing its wide open opportunity. Microsoft has been fumbling its desktop OS for years, but the Linux desktop has not been able to capitalize on it and Microsoft will close this opportunity eventually. There is significant pressure on router and IoT manufacturers to prevent flashing of devices with Open Source firmwares. This is a blow to another mainstream market in which the Linux kernel has a foothold. Linux still dominates in high performance computing, but with potentially waning CPU manufacturer support, this to will be drawn into question.
It may never be the "year of the linux desktop", but it has been the decade or more of:
the linux server
the linux powered phone
the linux powered appliance
the linux powered IoT device
the linux powered router
the linux powered storage device
the linux powered chromebook
linux is everywhere, where it matters.
HP-UX : Dead
SunOS : Dead
Microsoft Servers : As good as Dead
SparcOS : Dead
Windows: Still a dominant player in the GUI space, for web-browsing, and communicating with Linux Servers
All a desktop nowadays is, is a way to interact with linux backend applications. Nobody cares about the desktop, since it's a glorified web interface.
The cloud is taking over the role that data centers used to play
The cloud *is* a data center, it is just someone else's data center. It is important not to forget that. There is nothing wrong with doing your computing in someone else's data center as long as you have analyzed the the risks (and possible rewards) of doing so. That being said, a lot of folks seem to associate some magic value because of the term "the cloud"; doing so without understanding what it is, is risky.
Linux is the kernel. For OSS, you want GNU or BSD userspace over a Linux kernelspace, GNU/Linux and BSD/Linux respectively.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
From TFS: "...businesses are spending more on cloud than on internal infrastructure."
I call Bullshit.
Linux is a kernel. They run that kernel, and so they are Linux. You are talking about Gnu.
The Linux kernel surely takes over the world however Linux is nowhere to be seen on the desktop where it matters most.
There's there's this still little known fact that Google wants to replace the Linux kernel with their own one. So, Android is not particularly bound to Linux since the kernel part of Android is anyone's to take.
What about supercomputers? They are great, right, except they are basically huge calculators, so it's not like a huge win in my book. Besides, *BSD could have been used there as well.
Then there's this fact that application/web servers only use Linux'es CPU/storage/networking capabilities and almost nothing else and then you'll get a pretty bleak picture of Linux dominance.
Your biggest megacorps realized, that teamwork is better than a free-for-all.
Because the ideal state of capitalism and socialism, is actually the same state.
Of course they're still psychopaths. So they think they can get the benefits from teamwork, without having to contribute themselves. That's what profit is, after all: The part that you take without giving back.
I doubt that will work forever, though.
They need custom things. And they are dependent on the community too.
Sooner or later, some will contribute, and gain advantages from it, because their contributions give them an advantage. Then everyone will follow or die, as those are the rules of capitalism.
Not the way i hoped it would work out.
your way would have ended in global destruction
We heard you were dead
Corporations who use FOSS are taking over the world
FOSS provides the means for them to concentrate their power by making them more independent of other greedy software corporations who used to fight them for it.
FOSS assists in a concentration of power by select corporations.
Not the way i hoped it would work out.
What the Hell did you people expect? That they'd all chip in, release their code, and we'd all live in a F/OSS utopia with RMS as our patron Saint, leader and moral compass?
The cynics called this in the 90s. Corporations as organization go straight to the bottom when it comes to morals and will exploit everything and anything for the bottom line - at least in the USA where "maximizing shareholder value" is the excuse and rationalization for being horrible corporate citizens.
If some of the companies developing for Win 10 and MacOS were to start releasing Linux ports too, the era of the Linux Desktop would come a lot sooner.
Facing the inevitable switch from Win 7 to Win 10 in around a year, i've done an evaluation of my needs and in actual fact the only thing i need to leave MS behind is better photo editing support. I know there is GIMP, but a linux port of Affinity Photo would be a lot better for me (to use in conjunction with Darktable), along with Epson pulling their thumbs out their arse and writing linux drivers for their P600 / P800 family of photo printers.
Because the ideal state of capitalism and socialism, is actually the same state.
What nonsense. An individual company might seek to become so powerful and all controlling that they essentially own everything, which would have a similar effect to the state removing private property, but that has nothing to do with the system itself. Without special treatment or protection from the government, it's quite unlikely that any single entity could ever reach that level of control.
It's a joke because anyone who actually does computing work on his computer knows that the biggest advantage of Linux is exactly that it isn't a shitty desktop OS catering to what the dumbest and hence loudest consumers believe they want due to being told what to want by marketing and movie PHBs who print out the Internet.
Look at systemd/Ubuntu/Gnome. It tries so hard to get to the consumer desktop, it kills everything that makes Unix-likes great in the process.
The more you walk towards that goal that was carved out by the likes of Microsoft and Apple, the harder and more cumbersome it becomes, to actually do what is the whole point of having a computer: To automate your information processing work away!
And when they try to add a productivity element, they go and pick the one thing that's bad about such systems! Like when they thought it would be great to offer a search/CLI type input to run easy commands... When not having oversight over what commands are currently available, since all you have is a prompt and a blinking cursor, is the one key flaw of traditional command-line interfaces!
No. Linux is, and should always be, the OS for actually doing things.
If you want a consumer desktop cripple OS, we already have too many of those. Just pick one of them, instead of ruining the one thing that's free from that cancer.
Perhaps I'm a zealot, but I have 1 Windows virtual machine running Win7 Media Center. All the rest of the devices in the house run a Unix-like OS.
2 raspberry Pi kodi machines - that's Linux
1 Roku - BSD
1 TiVo - Linux
2 Android Tablets - Linux
3 smartphones - Linux
1 Nokia N800 - Linux
2 Chromebooks - Linux
4 physical desktop PCs - Linux as the hostOS
1 SunOS machine as a curiosity.
under those physical PCs are virtual machines, 15 VMs are Linux, 1 is BSD and 1 is that Win7 media center.
We don't have any Alexa or Google-home or Nest personal home monitoring systems.
Most homes will have an Amazon speaker (linux), some sort of streaming stick(s) (Linux), and 3-4 smart TVs running a BSD/Linux stack. 65% of the world uses Android phones, which is Linux.
Pretty much every server you hit on the internet is running Linux, unless it is owned by Microsoft or about 50% of bank online websites. The other 90% run a Unix, probably a Linux, OS.
In enterprises where I've worked, over 80% of our servers were Unix-based. We had about 10K Windows servers, so 40K were Unix/Linux. We didn't even use AD, preferring to use FreeIPA for enterprise authentication and directory management.
Please realize that almost all popular operating systems are Unix-based except 1, MS-Windows. All the others that everyone in the world uses daily are Unix.
Basically, I think you live in a different world than the rest of the world. But MSFT is definitely having a good quarter, thanks to their Linux support on Azure.
Yah, no. Linux kernel is a kernel. Debian Linux is a Linux distribution.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
Linux was the kernel. That is, before it grew up to take over the world. Now Linux is considerably more than a kernel.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
There is no "Debian Linux."
"This operating system that we have created is called Debian."
"Debian systems currently use the Linux kernel or the FreeBSD kernel."
"A large part of the basic tools that fill out the operating system come from the GNU project; hence the names: GNU/Linux, GNU/kFreeBSD, and GNU/Hurd."
https://www.debian.org/intro/about
Worldwide domination is not done until Apple kisses the ring or dies. Actually, it would not be particularly hard to port I-os and OS-x to Linux.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
I hope some day they initialize parallel development of a Linux microkernel.
I think that depends on whether 2019 will be the year of the Linux desktop...
Of course 2019 will be the year of Linux. It already rules:
* The vast majority of phones runs on a Linux kernel. Yes, userspace above the kernel is mostly closed source, so it's not "pure," but the kernel is still important.
* The vast majority of IoT, routers, web servers, "cloud" servers (yes, that's really just new, shiny timesharing of somebody else's computer really), etc. run on some flavor of Linux - at least the kernel.
* It's hard to tell any more whether IBM mainframes run on Linux with legacy OS in a VM or whether Linux is running in a VM over a legacy OS.
* Linux through a gaggle of distros has a rapidly growing (when you start from near zero, any increase is going to look great at first) desktop presence.
It's almost easier to count the non-Linux OS with significant market share:
* Windows desktop (all versions combined)
* Windows Server (all versions combined)
* Apple iOS
* Apple Mac
* BSD
* Various country-specific OS done to avoid paying MS or others, or for special features; some probably are based on Linux if examined closely
In terms of installed base (numbers of units), Linux (defined as the kernel, so driven mainly by the dominance of Google and Android) is so far ahead that everything else added together is a distant second. The only place that isn't ruled by Linux already is the desktop and corporate servers (Windows Server and mainframes still have a substantial presence). Despite some desultory attempts, Windows never got significantly into the phone and things markets, and has long since abandoned them. The only non-desktop, non-server market Windows is significant in is XBox, which is nowhere near the dominant force in the console market (think Sony, Nintendo). Otherwise, Linux.Rules.
I've moved to doing all my development on Ubuntu (it's C based microcode and Java/C data processing modules which will be moved to WebAssembly). I've pushed my daughter who's at college to Ubuntu for her development systems and my wife and younger daughter to ChromeOS laptops. I still love my Macbook Air, however, as my personal/business laptop.
We have two Windows 10 laptops that my wife and older daughter want to keep for security sake and I have a couple of Win 7 laptops and desktop for the same reasons. These get powered up once a month to update in a non-stressful manner in case they're ever needed.
The biggest challenge for the family was going off Microsoft Office products (Outlook, Word, Excel and Powerpoint) and moving to the Google (and Apple) versions.
Mimetics Inc. Twitter
I went out to *BSD's grave on Decoration Day. The old forgotten cemetery is to be found adjacent to the dark woods beyond the edge of town. There within olfactory distance of the municipal treatment plant you will find *BSD's final resting place.
*BSD's tombstone was shrouded by thick mosses and knots of noxious ivy. A mournful funerary crow sounded the requiem, as I gently pulled aside the tangled twists of thorns, and cleaned the decaying marker the best I could. A suffocating melancholia filled my heart, while I pondered that this indeed was *BSD's figurative charnel house of which so many have plaintively spoken.
Nothing is so pitiful as an untended grave, a loved one now forgotten. The short sad life of this doomed and fated OS makes us realize that there but for the grace of God go all of us.
I planted some wilting marigolds, found discarded in the waste heap behind the caretaker's shack, wishing that by some miracle these fleurs de mort might take root and bring a modicum of cheer to *BSD's God forsaken plot. My fervent hope is that the torpid colored boy, who so carelessly mows the grounds, doesn't slice them down, inadvertently mirroring *BSD's own doomed encounter with death's irresistible scythe.
Funny how things work out. Linux, that brilliant nova stella, now runs the Internet and the world's fastest computers, while *BSD lies moldering within its forgotten crypt. Let the barren silence of *BSD's tomb be a mute reminder that hubris and braggadocio were no defense on that woeful day when the Angel of Death's bleak umbra was cast upon *BSD.
The article also cites Linux's use in AI, data lakes, and in the Sierra supercomputer that monitors America's nuclear stockpile, concluding that "In its domination of IoT, cloud technology, supercomputing and AI, Linux is heading into 2019 with a lot of momentum."
Citing one supercomputer's use of Linux as evidence of its momentum is sort of silly. Actually, Linux' momentum regarding use in supercomputers has pretty much come to a stillstand. In the list of the 100 fastest supercomputers in the world it is used in 100. Does not leave a lot of room for momentum here.
So what's special about the Sierra supercomputer?
Nuff said...
Welcome my little friends, here is some fish.
Really nice to see ongoing work on bringing windows compatibility, various graphics stacks and traditional X server replacements up to speed. Sooner Microsoft's Malware operating system dies the better off we'll all be.
"Cloud Industry Forum, for the first time, businesses are spending more on cloud than on internal infrastructure. The cloud is taking over the role that data centers used to play"
Translation to English:
Rent a server industry forum, for the first time, business are spending more money renting other peoples servers than owning and operating their own. Rented servers is taking over the role that owning your own servers used to play.
In its first Voice of the Enterprise survey, 451 Research predicted that 60 percent of nearly 1,000 IT leaders surveyed plan to run the majority of their IT off premises by 2019
Translation to English:
Server rental industry marketing hacks release survey showing favorable outlook. Be cool like everyone else and rent a server instead of buying your own.
Gartner states that 80 percent of internally developed software is now either cloud-enabled or cloud-native.
I tried to translate this to English but my translation software crashed.
Ian Betteridge is correct once again.
Linux is not taking over the world. Its position in the market is very similar to Java, which touts "billions" of devices using it during the installation process on a PC. But nobody knows that Android uses it, that their Bluray players use it, that lots of other embedded systems use it (they don't know what the fuck that even means, either).
With Linux, the same is be true: billions may be using it, but they don't fucking know it. They don't know that their phone or tablet or in-dash panel in their car uses it, they don't know that their Tivo uses it, that their Wifi probably relies upon it. They don't know that the web site or email or "app" they're using likely uses a Linux-based server. They don't know what the magic that is the 'internet' relies upon Linux in the switches and routers and servers that power it. They don't care, either. And because they don't know, and don't care, they aren't going to stroll into BestBuy or browse Amazon specifically looking for a Linux-based PC. Until that happens on a significant scale, Linux will not be 'taking over the world'.
You DO realize that the entire concept of "the desktop" has drastically changed from 10-20 years ago, right? Yeah, "the desktop" used to mean an x86-powered PC running Windows OS and an ecosystem of applications that could ONLY run on said Windows OS (or Mac equivalent). Today "the desktop" means pretty much everything from a tablet to a workstation that may or may not be able to run Windows apps, but does most of its work over a network and can run any web-based application that comprises the majority of apps today. Wintel-only "desktop" is a dinosaur that is dead, just too stupid to lay down.
This is just to announce the imminent completion of a brand-new Linux release, which I'm calling the Debian Linux Release -- Ian Murdock
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
That's not how socialism works. Hell, that's not even proper communism! Sounds like it got tainted by what you call libertarianism.
American "education", 'eh?
Not *a* company, but a handful of them. Just like in a dictatorship, power is not held by *a* person, but by a cabal. Kim Jong Un wants to really change how things are run, he'd better have most of the most powerful members of his cabal on board first if he wants to keep breathing.
--- Most topics have many sides worth arguing, allow me to take one opposite you.
When the real Fourth Reich comes
You'll be the first to go
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Not sure what distro you're running, but having had Mint on my desktop for a few years now, I almost never have occasion to open up a terminal window. I see this as similar to the cmd prompt/Powershell in Windows - there if you need it or for power users, but most users can work just fine in the GUI for day-to-day fun & games.
Giving away??? Hmm, shoving up your ass is, perhaps, a better description of their approach.
Or I might have been too paranoid at the time they were at it.
Sometimes when I'm feeling low, I remember that a man such as Adolf Hitler once lived, and within memory of many still alive. Yes, a new Adolf will rise up. Learning from the mistakes of the past, it will be no more mister nice guy. The Fourth Reich will be bigger and badder than ever, and no mercy will be shown to to the mud people. There will be a house cleaning that will make your head swim. A new broom will perform a cleans sweep of undesirables, sweeping them into the dustbin of history once and for all. Sieg Heil!
Sierra supercomputer that monitors America's nuclear stockpile
At 2:14 August 29, 2017 Sierra became self-aware and was renamed Skynet.
Léa Gris
Yeah, and you had to go back to 1993 to find that, Grandpa.
Also, note that Ian uses the word "Linux" to mean the whole operating system - NOT just the kernel. Just as Linus does, and has since the beginning.
Giving away??? Hmm, shoving up your ass is, perhaps, a better description of their approach.
Or I might have been too paranoid at the time they were at it.
The good news is, I haven't heard of any linux distro having a forced update to Windows 10 (yet)
I went back to Ian Murdock, son. Good reason for that. I know that Ian uses[1] the word Linux to mean the whole operating system, just as I do. What are you blathering on about.
[1] Used, because he is no longer
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
> comming
That's "cumming," stupid.
Gartner states that 80 percent of internally developed software is now either cloud-enabled or cloud-native.
Network bills are that cheap?
I use Linux to make a phone call in the same sense as I use Quantum Mechanics to make a cup of tea. In other words, it's true but not a necessary part of the solution.
What's really sad are the constantly faux-outraged, white-knighting, virgin SJW children like you who think having sex is the ultimate end-all goal in life just because you've never had it.
Soon Linux will be my standard OS to get as far away from corporate surveillance as possible.
what's wrong with that? They make money, we get tons and tons of free software (free as in beer & speech).
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Those "cumming" penguins shot loads and wads of hot jizz all over that BSD thingy. So much jizz that BSD choked to death on the wads of Linux goo.
How are you defining a Linux? The official kernel? anything that is forked off the official kernel? *nix style systems? Is a iPhone or Mac considered to be a Linux device? Is Linux actually Unix?
Oh - and yes you are a zealot.
Can't really disagree, but you gotta admit sex becomes a lot more important when you're not getting it.
No. No it isn't. Because with regard to Linux being the predominant OS on the planet we crossed that threshold a long time ago, just as stupid people flooded Slashdot a decade or more ago.
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
Mac or iPhone would be BSD based, not linux based
AC included BSD and a heavy focus on Unix-based systems at the end of his post, so I was just trying to get a baseline for his definition. Also, I wanted to see how far deviated from Linux it has to be before it is no longer considered Linux. along with his above items you have to consider the connectivity of the world as well. Many switches / routers also contain linux. The smart TV thing got me though, I only know 1 person that has 1 of them :-)
As to if Linux is taking over the world. No, I do not imagine there will be a Linux dictator any time soon.
Nix Bricks... I like it.
Linux is the kernel. For OSS, you want GNU or BSD userspace over a Linux kernelspace, GNU/Linux and BSD/Linux respectively.
But GNU and BSD were just command-line systems. For a desktop you also want an MIT display interface: X-windows/GNU/Linux. ...
Then some chunks of BSD, Firefox or Chrome,
What is the string-size limit for OS names?
Um, "the cloud" is just a bunch of datacenters.
FreeBSD is used in so many embedded places that you don't see that it would really open your mind.
As well as OpenBSD and NetBSD.
Their Copyrights are simply much more permissive and freedom oriented than the Abject Force that GPL imparts. Force constraining freedom to do no harm, does no good.
Remember people, you should always move to MORE freedom in the world, NOT LESS.
GPL represents LESS FREEDOM than BSD.
While at the same time ensuring NOTHING more than BSD.
If you don't like where a BSD codebase goes, you Fork from the last known revision, and live freely without King or Rulers telling you what to do with what you make.
With GPL, well, you're fucked.
Same with Fiat vs Cryptocurrency... you're fucked with FIAT.
But with Distributed P2P Decentralized Privacy Cryptocurrencies,
you are Free as in unltimate Freedom to do whatever the fuck you want.
That's a good thing.
Choose the BSD Copyright.
https://www.openbsd.org/policy.html
https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/src/share/misc/license.template?rev=HEAD
Obviously the official kernel and the forks.
If you have a piece of BSD-derived software that is slow, buggy, or just could use some updating, but you don't have the source code because the vendor just sold you a binary and refuses to release the source, you're fucked.
GPL would ensure that you can get the source.
And GPL doesn't tell you what to do with what you make; it tells you what you can do with other people's work. And that's pretty much everything except distribute without source.
GPL is for people who want to share their code. If you don't plan on releasing source for your contributions, stay away from GPL. Simple as that.
Great arguments. Almost passionate. Except for one thing. BSD is dead. Linux thrives, while BSD's corpse slowly twists in the wind. Sorry!
In my day, Computer Science was a very new field. We learned the basic concepts of a multitasking OS but didn't look at actual, working systems. I presume that's different now. It means, of course, that everybody has to know C.
I'm just wondering what the exposure is for a typical computer science major nowadays.
In theory, theory and practice are the same; in practice they're different. (Yogi Berra & A. Einstein)
Re writing the windows core to Linux and putting their graphics on top would make sense and save money on support. Amazing how long it takes MS to catch up.
They needn't bother. GNOME is doing a perfectly good job scaring people away from desktop Linux.
One of your socks, obviously. Fuck off.
The year of the Linux desktop never happened if you define success exclusively as having an overwhelming usage share. If you look at sustained development and quality the success has been obvious all along during those 20 years you mention. At the start of those two decades KDE, for example, already offered a desktop interface that was superior to Windows.
Software industry likes to compare itself to ecosystems. Fine, let's look at nature. What makes a species succesful? The fact that it survives. It is not a requirement to have a bigger population than other species. On the contrary, that would often be an indication the ecosystem is in trouble.
Linux is in a healthy state. Several desktop and window managers available for Linux are in a healthy state, as well as loads of other software. I see no reason why Linux as a platform is in danger of not surviving, including for desktop use. It is successful. Not in a winner-takes-all fashion but in a way that is much more sane in my opinion.
I already pointed in 2011, seven years ago (!), that this is the case - that Linux is already more popular than Windows, because people only have Windows on their desktop machine, but have Linux on their phone (Android was already becoming popular seven years ago), TV, home router, NAS, and a bunch of other machines. Here is my post from seven years ago noting that: http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/pipermail/linux-il/2011-April/006874.html
Right, because that worked out so well last time...
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Go burn in hell, asshole.
Two users must have accidentally modded you up when, in fact, they meant to mod you down. If I had mod points, I'd help correct their mistake. Your post is useless shit, much like your software and your $1 house. Fuck off.
I know many people who have dabbled in Linux and some who have committed to using it as their desktop. We win a few converts every year. Is it enough? Maybe not yet.
If a hardware manufacturer would include a bootable flash drive with support for their own hardware with the sale, it could skyrocket.
If only systemd would stop killing things by trying to take over things that have no problem.
Yes, it did!
Sent as ripples into the electromagnetic field. No single photon has been harmed in the process.
I can't walk in to a single shop in Copenhagen area an expect to be asked...
"So, would you like that computer with, or with-out Windows?"
We all know that Microsoft didn't become wealthy giving away software, so even if it doesn't specify a cost on the purchase receipt next to VAT... I'm paying for Windows when I buy a computer even-though it will never be used.
I'll might start to believe in a "Linux take-over" when EVERY piece of computer hardware I buy has a "Works with Linux" label, and I won't have to worry about that manufacturer looses interest in maintaining Linux drivers immediately after I open the box.
For those saying, "yeah but Linux Desktop never caught on", Smartphone is the new Desktop (at least regarding how much final users spend time and do work with one or the other) and it runs Linux core.
Your software is just fine - well written, functional... I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine by mmell February 17, 2017
Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising and malvertising is quite valid - by JazzLad April 20, 2016
his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10 2015
his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg September 25 2015
I like your host file system by Karmashock September 09 2015
that APK guy, I use his host file by rogoshen1 Tuesday March 03, 2015
I personally use a HOSTS file blocker produced from a genius called APK by 110010001000 October 27 2017
* SEE SUBJECT & TELL US: How does EATING YOUR WORDS taste?
APK
P.S.=> You're already VASTLY OUTNUMBERED but many more are coming
Apk has the answer for that - really... kill automatic updates by adding a hosts file entry setting updates.steam.com or whatever to 127.0.0.1. You have to find the right hostname for each software you want to block updates on by raymorris (2726007) on Friday July 06, 2018
APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat (756137) on Wednesday June 21, 2017
I support APK's stand on the hosts file and can't see why it's not used more than it is. My hosts file is 144247 lines long (4,332 Kb) it & a firewall serves me very well - by Trax3001BBS (2368736)
ABP is insufficient as a solid hosts file does everything APK reminds us about fast turtle September 17 2013
You need APK's hosts file - by Teun (17872) on Wednesday August 06, 2014
APK
P.S.=> You EATING YOUR WORDS != GOOD NUTRITION... apk
APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context. Of course, your phone has to be rooted, which isn't the case with Firefox + adblock." - by chihowa on Saturday May 16, 2015
APK solution STILL relevant Thud457 June 11 2015
In a footnote, I would like to note that I find your hosts file admirable - by vel-ex-tech (4337079) on Tuesday November 24, 2015
APK's monolithic hosts file is looking pretty good at the moment - by Culture20 on Thursday November 17
you're right about hosts files - by drinkypoo (153816) on Thursday May 26
APK, I know people give you a lot of shit regarding hosts, but please don't ever stop - by nasredin (958927) on Friday June 12, 2015 @03:34PM
APK
P.S.=> Are you ENJOYING the taste of EATING YOUR WORDS yet?... apk
APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works. - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015
get around to 'installing' a hosts file list, not sure which one, likely the one from someonewhocares.org. If it works as well as what I used for a while about ten years ago, I'll be happy. And grateful to APK for the lesson and the reminder. - by kermidge (2221646) on Wednesday March 27
I actually went and downloaded a 16k line hosts file and started using that after seeing that post, you know just for trying it out. some sites load up faster. - by gl4ss (559668) on Thursday November 17
dammit MS, you proved APK right about something by lgw
APK
P.S.=> Your words YOU'RE EATING: You choking on them yet?... apk
(APK) is still right a hosts file really does work. It even blocked a some of the video ads that were inserted into a stream OrangeTide February 10 2016
the Host File Engine performs exactly as promised - by mmell (832646) on Thursday February 16, 2017
I do use APK's host file on all my systems at home by OrangeTide December 01 2017
I've never tried to belittle (APK's work), I've flat out said it's good - by BronsCon (927697) on Thursday February 11, 2016 @06:48PM (#51491263)
(Toss on 100,000++ users worldwide too!)
* For the Win32/64 model...
APK
P.S.=> Linux model's faster/more efficient + BETTER merge feature... apk
Dozens of REGISTERED /.ers disagree w/ you all enumerated quoting them here outnumbering you https://linux.slashdot.org/com... JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie", lol...
APK
P.S.=> You sure TALK (& that's it, nothing to show for yourself, least of all that our /. peers PRAISE as they do MY WORK, not your non-existent HOTAIRWARE/NOTWARE (lol)) a "good game" but you have ZERO TO SHOW FOR YOURSELF in comparison to me... apk
I'm correct about EFast, no questions asked & here's proof https://duckduckgo.com/html?q=... & it IS a real DANGER of OpenSORES'ing code - Chrome itself was turned into a MALWARE because it's code was open to all.
* CLUE: That CANNOT HAPPEN TO ME when I do NOT open my code to all to abuse (which WAS threatened my way by /. trolls like you but the REAL BEAUTY to your 'threats' is that I KNOW "your kind" CAN'T CODE, lol - else you'd have something to show for yourselves & you DON'T... just hot blowhard air!)
APK
P.S> ... & as usual, YOU LOSE, lol... apk
I'm correct on EFast, no questions asked & here's proof https://duckduckgo.com/html?q=... & it IS a real DANGER of OpenSORES'ing code - Chrome itself was turned into a MALWARE because it's code was open to all.
* CLUE: That CANNOT HAPPEN TO ME when I do NOT open my code to all to abuse (which WAS threatened my way by /. trolls like you but the REAL BEAUTY to your 'threats' is that I KNOW "your kind" CAN'T CODE, lol - else you'd have something to show for yourselves & you DON'T... just hot blowhard air!)
APK
P.S> ... & as usual, YOU LOSE, lol... apk
Thanks for projecting your modus operandi as you HIDE from me like the cowardly WORM you are by your UNIDENTIFIABLE anon posts STALKING me.
APK
P.S.=> Jealous "Lil' Jowie", you're pitiful, lol... apk
Don't you mean "Truth/Fact GO AWAY" instead? Node.js Event-Stream Hack Reveals Open Source 'Developer Infrastructure' Exploit https://it.slashdot.org/story/... ??
* That's JUST ANOTHER PROOF/EXAMPLE THEREOF of the DANGERS of "OpenSORES" along w/ EFast too https://duckduckgo.com/html?q=... (there are TONS more also)
APK
P.S.=> Now, if you want to continue to LIE to people? That's your business (& downfall, not mine)... apk
if you look at it in sort of a Trojan Horse fashion then yes, Linux has taken over.
The majority of mobile phones are running on Android, derived from Linux.
Almost all supercomputers run on some version of Linux
Although most businesses still use Microsoft Office (or Office 365) many of the back office functions are running on some Linux server tucked away out of sight.
It has been a quiet revolution and I think that is how it will continue to be. Most attempts by Linux diehards to be front and center (i.e. Linux on the Desktop, Linux branded phones, etc.) have largely been flops, at least from a commercial standpoint.
I suspect this is a case of too much choice leading to confusion. There must be thousands of Linux distros and in the hands of the general populace it is simply too overwhelming. Sure, me and my fellow geeks love to mess with it but let's face it - we are in the minority. Windows and OSX have succeeded because they are familiar and relatively straightforward to use. The Linux community is just too splintered.
But in the hands of the right people, Linux is just magic. It is fast and stable and just hums along in the background.
> Most IoT and embedded devices -- those small, limited functionality devices that require good security and a small footprint and fill so many niches in our technology-driven lives -- run some variety of Linux
Not a ringing endorsement then. This is about the worst example they could think of if the goal was to put Linux in good light. Yeah, they *require* good security, yet IoT devices are some of the most poorly secured devices in existence.
Although this has *nothing* to do with Linux's security. Blame those manufacturing the devices.
And every year the answer is the same:
No, not the way you want to be.
Linux has always excelled in spaces where extreme customization is an advantage. Servers where you're doing anything more custom than business network services (e.g. email, domain authentication and management, file sharing, etc). Small device applications where embedded Windows would be too rigid and prohibitively expensive, like streaming video or music players, IoT devices in general, etc.
However, with all of this, Linux has no mind share with the general population, and that's what people who are this question want. Linux people want regular folks to start giving up their proprietary Windows or Mac boxes and switch to running Linux directly, and that's just never going to happen.
That's because, no matter how good Linux desktop UI's get, they are always far behind the proprietary UI's in polish, useability, and integration with the OS.
And the reason why is blindingly simple:
Money. Not even direct profit, just money spent.
Look at all the Linux products with great UI's. They are ALL in products people purchase. People won't spend money on a device that's hard to use, so it's really, really important that they get the UI right. So these companies spend enough to make sure they get it right.
Android is the quintessential example. Thanks to Android, you can and should say Linux dominates the phone market. But look what it took to make a version of Linux that could compete with a closed source product. It took a massive company like Google spending millions of dollars to make sure that UI piece is right, and integrates seamlessly with the OS.
In the desktop arena (the arena Linux users seem to care about the most), Apple and Microsoft have spent hundreds of millions of dollars developing their UI's and making sure they integrated smoothly and seamlessly with their OS. There is just no way a FOSS desktop UI can compete with that kind of highly motivated, focused attention. As good as Ubuntu and the like have made things, they are perpetually behind the industry big dogs.
Yes these companies make blunders in their quest for better UI (MS moreso than most, it seems), but generally speaking the results speak for themselves.
Linux UIs have come a long, long way over the years, but even now they are mostly 5-10 years behind the state of the art. In my experience that's where they seem to stay, and that's why they'll never dominate in the desktop arena.
So you could say 2019 is the year of highly customized proprietary Linux black boxes, just like 2018 was, and 2017 was, and 2016...
Nothing is new for Linux in 2019, it's the same story it's always been. And IMO that's not a bad thing, nor is it something to be ashamed of. Quite the opposite. Linux does what does, and does it extremely well.
Security is mostly a superstition... Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. - Helen Keller
Easy for 1 unidentifiable anonymous loser like you to APPEAR to be "all those lusers" being many isn't it? I've registered users saying they like/use my work (not your notware/hotairware, JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" the DO-NOTHING "ne'er-do-well" you are, lol).
* FACT I've already proven - YOU can't, lol & you KNOW it (prove all those UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous losers like YOU aren't YOU - you can't).
APK
P.S.=> You must think folks here are STUPID - the truth is, you're the ONLY ONE that's stupid... apk
See subject & PROVE all those UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous LUSERS like you AREN'T YOU ONLY https://linux.slashdot.org/com...
* GOOD LUCK - you'll NEED it, loser...
APK
P.S.=> I can easily show DOZENS of REGISTERED /.ers that like/use/praise MY work (not your "notware"/"hotairware" THAT JUST PLAIN AIN'T THERE, lol)... apk
Bwahahaha (registered users can submit ac) - so WHO are you TRYING to fool here? Yourself only as usual you deluded LOON that STALKS me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts... lol!
APK
P.S.=> What's it LIKE being SO JEALOUS, "Lil' Jowie"? LOL... apk
You are changing the subject because you got caught lying that trolls threatened to create a malware version of your software. I requested that you prove your allegations by linking to where trolls made such a threat. You didn't, so you ran from the question and tried to change the subject.
You LIED, yet again.
EAT YOUR WORDS https://news.slashdot.org/comm...
APK
P.S.=> Close enough for me to NEVER open my code to ANYONE ever (between THAT & EFast)... apk
It is, between Node.js, EFast etc.? I write ALL MY OWN CODE & it makes me stronger as a coder too vs. https://it.slashdot.org/commen...
* Strong enough to DUST all your bs here today easily & w/ facts!
APK
P.S.=> YOU LOSE - ESPECIALLY HERE (Enjoy EATING YOUR WORDS) https://linux.slashdot.org/com... ... apk
See subject & https://news.slashdot.org/comm... & TELL ME: How's EATING YOUR WORDS taste? Like your foot in your mouth RAMMING them back DOWN your chicken-neck throat??
APK
P.S.=> RoTfLmAo & I KNEW if I waited, you'd SHOOT YOUR MOUTH OFF only to EAT, lol... apk
Him saying that alone sealed the deal (for me & that's who has MY code only & thus, it STAYS that way) & he's no 1st. Of 1,000's of bookmarks that's only the 1st one I found, there are others like it OR WORSE I'm sure, but that's all it took & I make the decision/I'm in charge of my code, period (safest way).
* Works for me - no EFast Chrome malicious doppleganger possibles OR Node.js bogus code infilatrators etc.
APK
P.S.=> There's NO ARGUING w/ results... apk
Other than OS API's? Yes, I do WRITE all the CODE I put out there under my initials (APK). Don't try put words in my mouth I don't say.
* That's a WEAK puny play - & you PLAYED yourself w/ it, lol!
APK
P.S.=> You have issues - why don't you do something w/ your obviously WASTED life if the "best ya got" in that so-called 'life' of yours is weak stupidity like putting words in my mouth I don't say, lol... apk
See subject:& if I'm a loser like you say because I like posting/reading here? Who's a bigger loser?? The stalker of a loser's a bigger loser (you & you ARE obsessively STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts - wow, my own weirdo, no less... lol!).
* ... & to easily additionally put your nonsense away??? EFast type dopplegangers can't happen off my code as it's NOT in public - period/fact.
APK
P.S.=> You're mental, aren't you? apk
BronsCon flat out said my work's good. He even admitted it. You saying he didn't say what I quoted? To anyone that can read it does.
APK
P.S.=> He may not like me personally - immaterial: My work's quality speaks for my character (deeds, not mere words)... apk
I needed to go multiplatform - there's only 1 way to do that right - get on that particular horse & RIDE, lol - & there ya go! I didn't do Qt - I did GTK (but could instantly do Qt).
My code stays w/ me - NO Efast or Node.js infiltrating corruptors possible, period. Fact, end of story.
* Look - take a break - have a beer (provided you're of legal age to do so that is) & relax - check out a flick - I am now (Good one, "Knight & Day" humorous, light hearted yet serious Tom Cruise/Cameron Diaz espionage flick).
APK
P.S.=> You sound like you need one... apk
LMAO - see subject above: Especially by your UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous you STALK me - how flattering! My own private weirdo!
* RoTfLmAo & so are my pals.... lol!
APK
P.S.=> We all found that amusing & TRUE... apk
See subject: Specifically some "PsYcHo" ward out there - explains MUCH about your ObSeSsiVe trait of STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous & FAILING, lol!
* You never fail, to FAIL - Love that about you, lol - you always make ME look GOOD & yourself? Well - mental... lol!
APK
P.S.=> Hahahahahahahaha... apk
See my subject & YOU put an end to them (I commend that much - you got sane for even 1 second (why bother others that way's all I'm saying)) https://science.slashdot.org/c...
* I don't do the SuperKendall, Jew swastika, Raymorris (I like raymorris & respect him - he does good) & you yourself did the same to me & talk like you're some 'saint'? Please.
APK
P.S.=> I think you're nuts but you ARE amusing to me... apk
See it on youtube (search U2 Mission Impossible) https://linux.slashdot.org/com... & THAT's my present to "all y'all", tech I discussed there too (not ELEGANT otherwise & I already DID it in Windows - thus, a challenge - can I play w/ Linux @ those levels & WIN? Oh, you know I will - it's WHAT I do, lol!).
* Quote Emmanuelle Beart (sexy as hell I always thought) from the film MISSION IMPOSSIBLE (after nearly throwing her life out on that job)?
"Did we get him?" Tom Cruise "WE GOT HIM!" (or they wouldn't BE talking, see the flick - still great).
APK
P.S.=> REMOTE ACCESS = ME from that film intro (watch closely), lol (story of my life really)... apk
My 87 year old father and his octogenarian friends have been using Linux for a decade or more. They enjoy the experience because Linux just works. None of them have fallen for scams or had virus issues.
Linux on the desktop is the only way to go if you want to stop being the support guru for family and friends.
such insight! i'd say linux world domination moment was years ago.
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
It's good to know there's ONE non-evil product that I can actually trust. All tech companies have become untrustworthy.
Linux has its place in the world, but the PC desktop is not one of them. That part of Linux is so difunctional and fragmented with nerds creating more and more slightly altered version to satisfy their own strange logic its not even funny. It would be like Windows having several dozen versions of Windows 10. If all these developers could focus on one or two options I think many newbie's would become interested more. The best success of Linux in the consumer arena has been Chrome OS and Android with the help of Google's marketing power. Just because Linux is a very good desktop OS, doesn't mean it has any marketing ability to sell it to average consumers.
When I first heard about the Linux vs GNU/Linux debate many years ago I thought it was really silly. Why bother with GNU when Linux is descriptive enough?
Now, I'd say it is an important distinction. Android/Linux or IoT/Linux is nothing like GNU/Linux. As it turns out, Stallman is not just a great singer, he is also right (again).
Nazi Trumps Fuck Off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=532KOrUDfi0