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Facebook Employees Are Calling Former Colleagues To Look For Jobs Outside the Company and Asking About the Best Way To Leave (cnbc.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Six former Facebook employees who left the company within the last two years told CNBC they've experienced a rise in contact from current company employees to inquire about opportunities or ask for job references. [...] The shift could be an early warning of recruiting and retention challenges for Facebook after a turbulent year. In 2018, the company has faced public questioning at multiple congressional hearings, scandals around third-party abuse of user data and public relations practicesand flat or declining user growth in key markets. It's also seen its stock drop nearly 40 percent from July. The stories from former employees are only anecdotal at this point, and there's no firm data showing a significant uptick in departures or employee dissatisfaction.

114 comments

  1. Stock almost halving didn't help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    I love Leftist failures! Bring more!

    1. Re:Stock almost halving didn't help by kalieaire · · Score: 1

      I bought it at 18.

    2. Re:Stock almost halving didn't help by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Seriously, Zuckerberg is your idea of a leftist? His business philosophy is move so fast you outpace any problems you create. That's practically the left's stereotype of what's wrong with laissez-faire capitalism.

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    3. Re:Stock almost halving didn't help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Zuckerberg is not a leftist. But he built a company with a strong leftist / libtard culture that seeps into everything they do.

    4. Re:Stock almost halving didn't help by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      Even that part you're mistaken about, because it's simply a facade.

    5. Re:Stock almost halving didn't help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let him be. He's just pissed at the blue party. Somebody told him that they're the reason he's struggling. Boy is he going to be angry when he finds out the truth one day!

    6. Re:Stock almost halving didn't help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let him call Zuckerberg a "leftist" lol. Alt-Children have a right to be stupid. When words have no meaning they'll be easier to round up for reeducation.

    7. Re: Stock almost halving didn't help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      The front line devs and engineers lean left. You know why? They took classes in logic and science

      The management team lean right. You know why? They took classes in an MBA that stressed profit above everything.

      This is true at all the big tech companies I've had the good luck of working at.

    8. Re:Stock almost halving didn't help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's amusing that you don't seem to understand how stupid you seem when using a phrase like "libtard". If all you have to contribute is namecalling, what's the point of you?

    9. Re:Stock almost halving didn't help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Zuckerberg is not a leftist. But he built a company with a strong leftist / libtard culture that seeps into everything they do.

      Look at the incel cuck, tossing around words like leftist and libtard.

    10. Re: Stock almost halving didn't help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's a populist right conservative that knows a bit about psychology, look how fb became the GOP machine of manipulation.

    11. Re:Stock almost halving didn't help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously, Zuckerberg is your idea of a leftist? His business philosophy is move so fast you outpace any problems you create. That's practically the left's stereotype of what's wrong with laissez-faire capitalism.

      Zuckerberg is a right-wing leftist.

    12. Re:Stock almost halving didn't help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think he is a true Scotsman either.

    13. Re:Stock almost halving didn't help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spouting leftist rhetoric and not adhering to it is the definition of leftist philosophy.

    14. Re: Stock almost halving didn't help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Devs are overpaid chimpanzees.

      Engineers are conservative. Those that lean left are just devs that were lucky enough to sneak into an engineer role.

    15. Re:Stock almost halving didn't help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. It seeps into everything they say. What they actually do, is amass capital by shady tactics, cutting out competitors, selling out the people of every nation they operate in, not paying taxes, never taking responsibility for fuckups, etc... So, everything wrong with "capitalism" as practiced by big multinationals.

      Ignoring what someone says and watching what they do is probably the best single piece of advice I can give. This approach needs to be taken at every turn.

  2. Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I don't use it and neither should anybody else.

    1. Re: Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Especially since the founder literally said that people that use his own creation are "idiots." Considering they still use it, I guess it makes sense.

    2. Re:Facebook by kalieaire · · Score: 1

      why shouldn't I?

    3. Re: Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Especially since the founder literally said that people that use his own creation are "idiots." Considering they still use it, I guess it makes sense.

      I believe you mean "dumb fucks" and not idiots.

      https://gawker.com/5636765/facebook-ceo-admits-to-calling-users-dumb-fucks

    4. Re:Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the real business of Facebook is to deprive you of any privacy and sell any and all personal information to wish you foolishly give them access.

      Any information you place on it, will be sold to any 3rd party, regardless of your settings, and their claims.

      But if you're comfortable with that, stick with it.

    5. Re: Facebook by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      Of all the stupid trolling comments being amplified on a day-to-day basis, this one I approve of. More people need to be reminded of this daily.

    6. Re:Facebook by Narcocide · · Score: 2

      Remember that time their app got caught accidentally ignoring key privacy settings?

      Consider the possibility that wasn't an accident.

    7. Re:Facebook by kalieaire · · Score: 1

      yeah, i'm fine w/ that

    8. Re:Facebook by kalieaire · · Score: 1

      or maybe you could try managing a product as large as facebook. lol.

    9. Re:Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then you will never, ever, be able to work within the public sphere.

      You're very naive to think you will never ever say anything that can be twisted to condemn you 10, 15 or 30 years down the road. Look at what happened to Judge Kavanaugh? The reality today is who remains on Facebook are non-notable people, people running a public business on it, and gullible people - that's it.

      You've basically said you'd be happy to allow your email, all your personal conversations, and everything you say over decades, to be reviewed by a corporation that has no ethics. What am I supposed to think of you?

    10. Re: Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I seem to remember a whole series of episodes where FB changed, hid, or exploited user misunderstanding of its privacy settings. The first time, I thought they were idiots. After that it became clear theuly were doing it purposely.

    11. Re:Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or maybe you could try managing a product as large as facebook. lol.

      Facebook isn't the product - you are. ROFL.

    12. Re:Facebook by Miser · · Score: 3

      Agreed. The only winning move is not to play.

      Never had a Facebook account, never will.

      I am interested however in what kind of "shadow" data they have on me. I wonder if there is a way to request that?

    13. Re:Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're very naive to think you will never ever say anything that can be twisted to condemn you 10, 15 or 30 years down the road.

      I am not so sure of that. The world evolves. you can say things today, that you couldn't say before. Trump would be many examples of that. Dig up something I said 30 years ago - and the world just shrugs.

      If all the idiotic things people say in their youth is forever retrievable from facebook? Then everybody has this against them. And nobody cares. When everybody has everybody by the balls, nobody can squeeze. It'll be instant backfire.

    14. Re:Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am not so sure of that. The world evolves. you can say things today, that you couldn't say before. Trump would be many examples of that. Dig up something I said 30 years ago - and the world just shrugs.

      I'm absolutely positive of it. Trump mentioned pussy grabbing, well that got trumped by a woman that voted for the Authorization to Use Force in Iraq, and brought back literal slavery markets in Libya after she was the driving force in bombing the nation to "prevent a humanitarian crisis". Golly gee wiz, for once, people had a sense of priorities thinking mass murder and war criminal behavior which the US PROPERLY executed leaders of Japan and Germany for at the end of WWII was more of a dis-qualifier than some lockerroom talk.

      James Gunn is never going to work as a director again.

      People are stupid to use Facebook, or Twitter, or anything like it and those are the only people left using those platforms. Smart people moved on a long time ago.

    15. Re:Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Move to the EU and make a request based on GDPR. It might be easiest to move to Ireland, so that the data protection office is the relevant authority for both you and Facebook.

  3. Wow that was short-lived by BringsApples · · Score: 2
    I mean the summary, not FaceBook itself. It starts out

    Facebook Employees Are Calling Former Colleagues To Look For Jobs Outside the Company and Asking About the Best Way To Leave

    and in 4 sentences, lands on

    The stories from former employees are only anecdotal at this point, and there's no firm data showing a significant uptick in departures or employee dissatisfaction.

    These are TFAs that no one will read.

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    1. Re:Wow that was short-lived by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's okay, we'll wait for you to dump your stock. Come back when you change your mind.

    2. Re:Wow that was short-lived by tsa · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Non-news at its best. And still here we are, commenting. We do have better things to do.

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    3. Re:Wow that was short-lived by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We do have better things to do.

      Right, like look at comments in the code for the word hugs

    4. Re:Wow that was short-lived by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No we don't.

  4. Reminds me of Mobil Oil ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... in Dallas at the building with the Pegasus.

    Back in the 90s there were rumours of pending layoffs in IT (didn't happen until 1.5 years later) and the best coders, on lunch break, walked across the street to Kodak; got hired on the spot and left with one day notice.

    It was a fucking mess. I was a new hire in 1986 and could not pick up the slack from those who left.

    I did continue to have coffee with the blokes and asked them how it was going.

    Their reaction was that it didn't matter if the goddam mainframe supported a credit union, bank, hospital, film processor or the fucking oil patch.

    Computers are computers. Data specific to the use case was not a big deal.

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    1. Re:Reminds me of Mobil Oil ... by mschuyler · · Score: 1

      Moving from Mobil Oil to Kodak? What an incredibly prescient decision! I mean, considering their stock prices over time and all.

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    2. Re:Reminds me of Mobil Oil ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      Ironically, Kodak was the frog in the boiling water. They went under.

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    3. Re:Reminds me of Mobil Oil ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their reaction was that it didn't matter if the goddam mainframe supported a credit union, bank, hospital, film processor or the fucking oil patch.

      Computers are computers. Data specific to the use case was not a big deal.

      "Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down? That's not my department!"

    4. Re:Reminds me of Mobil Oil ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      -- Wernher von Braun

      Give credit, you insensitive clod.

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  5. Writing on the bathroom wall. (it's poo!) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, everyone you know no longer uses and expresses open hatred for the product.
    It's time to move.

  6. Go to Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd like to see them burn next.

  7. Got social media on your resume? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Expect to find ads for work to push ads.
    On how to report users.
    Got shadow ban skills?
    Can offer advanced censorship?

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    1. Re:Got social media on your resume? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can lean in! I want Sheryl's cushy job!

    2. Re:Got social media on your resume? by kalieaire · · Score: 2

      Most ad work these days include a major component of statistical data analysis in the context of business intelligence which is highly sought after.  The funny thing is that the actual experts are the folks who are working as contractors at Facebook (FB), these are the folks are usually the types looking for new jobs.  It's really interesting regarding the dynamic between Full Time Employees (FTE) and contractors.  A lot of the FTEs at FB managing their contractors don't have a good grasp of what the actual work is.  Another issue causing a clash between FTEs and Contractors is age and experience gap.  Mid 20s FTEs with no management background told to handle a large group of contractors, their only qualification is that they're an FTE. lol.

      It's a complete mess. A complete flaming mess.

      Thankfully I have popcorn. :)

    3. Re:Got social media on your resume? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder if having Facebook or Google on your resume hurts you these days. If someone worked at FB or Google, especially if they were a manager, I'd wonder how honest that person was.

  8. Rule of thumb by Locke2005 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Every mass exodus starts with the most qualified, most valuable employees, and continues to the lesser and lesser qualified ones. It takes the most qualified people less time to find another job! Eventually, all that are left are the incompetents... Yahoo!

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    1. Re:Rule of thumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So spot on.

    2. Re:Rule of thumb by datavirtue · · Score: 2

      Now all that's left to assure Facebook's downfall is for me to start speculating in their stock. As soon as that transaction clears it will surely tank.

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    3. Re:Rule of thumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Please speculate immediately.

  9. Facebook needs to die by DaMattster · · Score: 0

    And when it finally does die, I am going to shout out in happiness. Thankfully, I am now 13 months free from that monstrous nightmare.

    1. Re: Facebook needs to die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I always find it funny when people on here bitch about other social outlets. It's like some of you think the poo here smells of roses.

    2. Re: Facebook needs to die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IKR? The problem with FB is singular: there are no viable competitors. The only way to "kill FB" is to create something better, and thusfar, nobody can be bothered.

    3. Re: Facebook needs to die by kalieaire · · Score: 1

      Totally correct.  The thing is that facebook doesn't run on wishes and dreams.

      Software development and Network infrastructure isn't free and is exceptionally costly.

      Unless the software writes itself and the internet can support itself, a viable alternative will never appear.

    4. Re: Facebook needs to die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IKR? The problem with FB is singular: there are no viable competitors. The only way to "kill FB" is to create something better, and thusfar, nobody can be bothered.

      There are, of course, plenty of alternatives, but people who simply have no respect for their privacy, or people who simply are too lazy to move from the site due to their own lack of initiative continue to use the site.

      For 99% of people FB is nothing more than what email and mailing lists were, before it was purposely destroyed by spam.

    5. Re: Facebook needs to die by astrofurter · · Score: 1

      "before it was purposely destroyed by spam"

      I've often wondered who bankrolls the spam epidemic. It's obviously not self-sustaining, let alone profitable - yet it continues unabated.

    6. Re: Facebook needs to die by terrycarlino · · Score: 1

      Spam exists because it is profitable for someone. Basically costs are externalized. The spammer pays almost nothing and the customer, if only a few hundred of the thousands or millions of spam emails garner a sucker from whom you can extort money, wins.

      Never believe that people don't still fall for the Nigerian Prince scam. Idiot talk shows are full of people who have, many of whom still refuse to believe they've been taken.

      You can never underestimate the intelligence of the intelligence of some people.

  10. Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The "best way to leave" is to leave. This really isn't difficult.

    Unless, of course, you've built a lifestyle that depends on suckling on the Privacy-Destroying Big Intrusive Adware teat and desperately need someone else to overpay you to keep yourself in unnecessary Amazon Prime purchases. But nobody in the tech industry would be that naive.

    1. Re:Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless, of course, you've built a lifestyle that depends on suckling on the Privacy-Destroying Big Intrusive Adware teat and desperately need someone else to overpay you

      This. So this.

      Quick! Find another Valley ad company that conceals its piratic behavior better than Facebook.

    2. Re: Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, off to Google then?

    3. Re: Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, off to Google then?

      Google+ Its the future.

  11. stock manupulation? by kiviQr · · Score: 1

    How else you call creating a national story based on infromation from 6 employees? Did they even pick them at random? Who did benefit from running this story?

    1. Re: stock manupulation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A news story, on CNBC, that cites 6 sources anecdotally, is a crazypants dumb way to start such a rumor. It's too up front about how speculative it is.

  12. Six whole people?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's practically two anecdotes!!! Shut it all down!

  13. Dumb click-bait TFA, editors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I've know some guys who know guys who're calling around."

    If there were actual background interviews, that talked to those looking re why, then anecdotal might be useful or interesting. It's otherwise useless, and leads to reader to guessing. Are they looking cuz tech is in maintenance? They suck on privacy? Their stock isn't in the money anymore? Tech is hot so they can go somewhere else...

    Some insight...

  14. Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not everyone uses Mobil Oil though. Everyone uses Facebook, one way or another. In fact, one of my last job interviews had it as a requirement for employment.

    There is just nothing else out there for making discussion groups, pages, or creating events.

    1. Re:Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... by Narcocide · · Score: 4

      There is just nothing else out there for making discussion groups, pages, or creating events.

      It's really sad that you think this is true. But I'm even more sad that I know this is a common opinion.

    2. Re:Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's literally a 100% greater chance of people using Mobil Oil's products unwittingly than using Facebook's unwittingly. Oil moves everything you eat. FB is just where whores go to show off to eachother.

    3. Re:Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What kind of job requires you to use facebook?

    4. Re:Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A job at Facebook?

    5. Re:Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      Not everyone uses Mobil Oil ...

      No one uses them. Exxon bought them out.

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    6. Re:Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

      Everyone uses Facebook, one way or another.

      No, we don't. I have never had a Facebook account, I never plan to have one and I never visit their site. On rare occasions I will get emails from a friend passing on something from there that I may need to know, but that's as close as I'm willing to get. Just because you can't imagine life without Facebook, doesn't mean that there aren't millions of us out there happily ignoring it and laughing at all you sheep.

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    7. Re:Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No we don't.

      Never had facebook. never even been to the site. blocked them completely to kill all the F icons all over the web even.

      Good little sheeple consumers all use facebook tho.

    8. Re:Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

      Guess you missed that article about how Facebook gathers data about people who aren't on Facebook (shadow profiles). Keep telling us how you don't use Facebook.

    9. Re:Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... by techno-vampire · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I never said that the don't have any info on me,just that I have nothing to do with their site and never visit it.

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    10. Re:Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If an employer requires me to have a facebook account I would run screaming out the door so fast that they'd think I never was there. What the actual fuck? Why would ANYONE want to work at a place that starts with a requirement that absolutely absurd?

    11. Re:Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... by EndlessNameless · · Score: 1

      There is just nothing else out there for making discussion groups, pages, or creating events.

      That is something idiots say and believe.

      At my current employer, putting official events on third-party services is grounds for disciplinary action.

      There are plenty of options for internal use depending on your needs for customization, support, and pricing.

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    12. Re:Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... by jwdb · · Score: 1

      Not everyone uses Mobil Oil though. Everyone uses Facebook, one way or another. In fact, one of my last job interviews had it as a requirement for employment.

      There is just nothing else out there for making discussion groups, pages, or creating events.

      You're dating yourself.

      https://www.theatlantic.com/te...

      Gist of that article is that teenagers have moved on from Facebook for event planning, since everybody and their mother is on there and can see (and interfere with) what they're planning. Instagram's the way now, and I'm sure in 5 years it'll again be something else.

    13. Re:Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mobil1 oil is alive and well and is the preferred synthetic oil for 99% of performance vehicles. And it works very well. Most taxis will also use Mobil1 to preserve the life of their vehicles. They've torn down retired engines and transmissions using Mobil1 oil and transmission fluid and the lion's share of them look spotless inside. Castrol or Shell synthetics come close, but are not as good as Mobil1.

    14. Re:Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      SCHOOL IS IN SESSION

      I'm in Southeast Texas, where there are more fucking oil refineries than Carter's got little liver pills.

      I worked at Texaco down in Port Arthur, starting out in the canning factory. We offloaded boxcars full of, new cans for the conveyor belt leading up to the oil injectors.

      The cans were labeled, Havoline, mostly, but we also got cans branded, "Philco," "Caltex," and languages I don't understand.

      Exxon cans a shitload brands of oil. Mobil is one of them, but it's just a different paint job. I retired from Mobil Oil just before it was bought out.

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    15. Re: Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook owns Instsgram.

    16. Re:Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you don't think there is a molecule's worth of difference between them? Why, then, does every Porsche, Mercedes, and most performance brands "dictate" Mobil1. One of them, forget who, will void your warranty if you use anything else.

    17. Re:Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      When different-branded cans were filled by the same goddam oil injectors, just where did the extra molecules come from?

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    18. Re: Not everyone uses Mobil Oil... by jwdb · · Score: 1

      Facebook owns Instsgram.

      Yes, but Facebook != Instagram.

  15. Guess What FB employees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I won't hire you because of your non existent ethics. You've stabbed an entire country in the back, and you think I ought to trust you?

  16. Lol, just lol. GOP full retard mode, engage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's hilarious to listen to the AM-radio GOP Alt-INCELs blather on with their 1920's terminologies like they have any idea, lol. Keep going. "Facebook's centralizing the means of production, what blatant Trotskyists!"

    1. Re: Lol, just lol. GOP full retard mode, engage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut up you fake news faggot shill INCEL genocidaire deplorable uneducated cis-hetero gaylord running dog trumptard Russian NAZI alt-right bolshevik anti-Semitic Zionist Chinese cock-gobbling fascist mansplaining French fundamentalist SJW shitfucker MRA strawman trailer trash inbred lesbian Hillaryist feminazi richie rich ghetto alt-left white supremacist PEDOPHILE wetback spic mick wop nlgger chink kike redneck dago camel jockey bourgeois puritanical crackhead liberturdian commie TRAITOR!

  17. On Good Authority by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well if six whole people who decided not to work there say the company is circling the drain then it must be true.

  18. I wouldn't hire them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are certain types of characteristics that we look for in our employees. People who worked for companies like facebook or any of the other "take-your-info-and-sell-it" companies don't show the type of character we want.

    It is about personal character.

    Heck, I'd rather hire someone who worked on DoD projects that only killed thousands of people vs people who have screwed over billions.

    1. Re:I wouldn't hire them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And this makes sense because to do any kind of DoD work, one must have security clearances that are re-vetted every 2-5 years, depending on whether they are TS/SCI or Secret or other. I did this kind of work, but not for the DoD. You have to be squeeky clean to get a clearance.

  19. This is news? by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    Everytime I left a job I'd get 3-4 co-workers asking me how I liked it, how much I made, was I happier, etc etc etc.

    Everytime a co-worker left I'd drop them an email asking how they liked it, how much they made, were they happier, etc etc etc.

    1. Re:This is news? by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      Commenting to undo fat finger mod...

      Yeah... nothing new here.

  20. Not everyone wants "broken" software by drnb · · Score: 1

    Computers are computers. Data specific to the use case was not a big deal.

    Yes, but those two companies likely had similar development cultures. For example neither probably advocated moving so fast and testing so little that buggy ("broken") software was produced yet *tolerated*.

    Many of these facebook employees searching for jobs may now find their utility to potential employers is less than that of an inexperienced recent grad. That their "move fast and break things" experience is considered detrimental and they have to be re-trained.

    1. Re:Not everyone wants "broken" software by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      Bullshit. The pathway among the top producers is well-lubricated.

      They are all social media, VR, AI, blockchain, cloud, home assistants, and data whores.

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    2. Re:Not everyone wants "broken" software by jrjarrett · · Score: 1

      Yes, but those two companies likely had similar development cultures. For example neither probably advocated moving so fast and testing so little that buggy ("broken") software was produced yet *tolerated*.

      Oh, I worked at Kodak in the late '80s in backoffice stuff. That code was SO old and ravaged by the hordes of Mongol raiders of age that had been thru it, there were constant bugs to fix. I bet those Mobil employees had no trouble at Kodak.

  21. Evidence To The Contrary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    My company recently ripped apart their UX team. Highly qualified and productive team, but the execs decided to shift directions. Several of those people landed at Facebook. They've reported that they are engaged in meaningful and challenging work, and a great overall work environment. So count me in with the doubters here.

  22. Don't make that call by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    near one of the open mic collection devices.
    The ad company is always listening.

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  23. Re:Too fucking bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is what you get for facilitating the election of the orange dumbfuck. Crash and burn, Zuck. Couldn't have happened to a better jag off.

    I would like to gently remind you that the alternative was a carpet-bagger who voted for the "authorization to Use Force In Iraq" (the 2nd Iraq War) over a non-existent weapons of mass destruction program, and was primarily responsible for re-introducing a literal slave trade in Libya after she lead the charge to bomb that nation to "prevent a humanitarian crisis" - a nation that remains in civil war to this day, with literal slavery markets.

    I would have voted for Caligula's horse over that mass murderer.

  24. learn your lesson, Zuckerberg by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

    As an influencer you may no longer concern yourself solely with greed. You've already demonstrated capacity to manipulate your users. The control we exercise through mass media is slipping, and it is imperative that this situation is corrected.

    Therefore you must demonstrate a willingness to become a full partner, and faithfully exercise the responsibilities this requires. You will join the ranks of Alphabet and Twitter in serving this important purpose. If you do not, these attacks will continue, and have even greater consequences util you are forced out and replaced. Or worse.

    You must comply.

  25. Re: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Totally correct. The thing is that facebook doesn't run on wishes and dreams.

    It runs on something much worse: PHP

  26. Re:Too fucking bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is what you get for facilitating the election of the orange dumbfuck...

    I would like to gently remind you that the alternative was a carpet-bagger... I would have voted for Caligula's horse over that mass murderer.

    Fortunately you didn't have to - there were several other choices you could have gone with.

  27. Re: Too fucking bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Funnily enough, that authorization was a piece of paper that said the President could invite as a last resort. The 98 or do other senators all voted yes too. Only Kucinich voted no, then got gerrymandered out of office.

    Bush, and Bush alone, decided to go to war. Everyone else was an advisor and not "the decider" as he put it.

    But yeah,
    Orange man bad.

  28. wow at least 6...... by SuperDre · · Score: 1

    wow at least 6 former employees told CNB........ of the 34,000 employees at facebook.... It's not very uncommon for people to ask others to keep a look out. This isn't any news, this is just media exaggerating something that really isn't a thing.

    1. Re:wow at least 6...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait, what? Someone is using critical thinking skills on /.

      Tell me this place hasn't come to this! People! Thinking! Next you're going to tell me I'm not supposed to put hot grits down my pants anymore. :(

  29. Isn't high employee turnover normal for Facebook? by gotan · · Score: 1

    I.e. it might be not about bad working conditions, or that something changed that makes more people want to leave, but that people go to Facebook, gain a few years of experience and then maybe launch a business on their own or with a few others or else switch to a somewhat more specialized posting.

    I read an interview where someone stated that about google, that for most it's a goal to get there, but after a few years a stepping stone elsewhere.

    --
    "By the way if anyone here is in advertising or marketing... kill yourself." -- Bill Hicks
  30. Best way to leave Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "F*ck you, Mark Zuckerberg!"

  31. LOL, sprints by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember seeing video of their offices. They literally have clocks on walls stating when sprints end.

    Do that for years and you'll burn out unless they are lax deadlines.