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Former NASA Engineer Designed Glitter Bomb Trap To Avenge Amazon Delivery Theft Victims (cnbc.com)
They say revenge is a dish best served cold. But for Mark Rober, it's much sweeter served smart, smelly and covered in glitter. From a report: The former NASA engineer-turned-YouTube star has received plaudits online after designing a booby trap to avenge all those who've fallen victim to a new wave of neighborhood crime: doorstep delivery theft. Rober spent six months combining GPS tracking, cameras, fart spray and glitter in an elaborate and amusing mechanism after discovering thieves had stolen an Amazon delivery from his doorstep.
In a video posted on his channel, the 38-year-old, who helped design the U.S. space agency's Curiosity Rover, said his engineering experience left him well-placed to "take a stand" after dismissive police left him feeling "powerless." "If anyone was going to make a revenge ... package and over-engineer the crap out of it, it was going to be me," said Rober, who spent nine years with NASA.
In a video posted on his channel, the 38-year-old, who helped design the U.S. space agency's Curiosity Rover, said his engineering experience left him well-placed to "take a stand" after dismissive police left him feeling "powerless." "If anyone was going to make a revenge ... package and over-engineer the crap out of it, it was going to be me," said Rober, who spent nine years with NASA.
While I applaud Mr. Rober, I would think that he has set himself up for a huge lawsuit by whomever took the package. The glitter being thrown about the car is definitely a danger to eyes as well as the respiratory system, the chemicals in the fart spray could trigger anaphylactic shock. This could be big money for the perpetrator and their lawyer.
IIRC, in South Africa you can booby-trap your car (or at least you could) to deter/punish theives, but I don't believe you can do anything like it anywhere else.
Maybe the police don't care but I suspect Mr. Rober could be out a lot more than just an Amazon package.
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The best/worst part, depending on your perspective, is how most of the package thieves don't seem to realize the lesson.
Why do people find it acceptable that valuable packages are just left on the doorstep ? Where I live, the delivery guys ring the door bell, hands over the package, and takes my name and signature as proof of delivery.
What happens if the package gets stolen ? Does UPS pay you back ?
The only thing I could think of to make it better would be to have a small CO2 canister (like for BB guns), which sends the glitter flying everywhere rather than just around the box.
Other than that, maybe something even more smelly.
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*fart spray* *fart spray* *fart spray*
The whole thing is too perfect. Fake.
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Someone found a practical use for the ihomepod.
One of his "victims" had a multi-thousand dollar bike in his room.
I think he's pretty safe - he could always claim he left it out as a prank for a friend, and the thief got in the way. For something like this intent would matter.
Also he was smart in that it spread the glitter horizontally, not upward - again not putting it into the face of whoever opened the box.
The funny thing to me is that the thieves did have something pretty valuable since it had four phones with service plans, if they'd juts literally held their nose they could have had a bounty.
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maybe even jail / prison time
He should sell these on Amazon.
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Others would have rigged some tear gas canister or an explosive device with a few handfuls of shrapnel. Glitter and fart spray is effective enough and at the same time whimsical enough to get away with it.
That would certainly cut down on package theft.
Unfortunately with the legal fallout probably no one would do this, but I think the entertainment value and the satisfaction would b worth it...
The device he created for distributing the glitter was a work of genius. Watch the videos, it is an amazing and beautiful creation.
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Doctor Who also proposed a way to deal with such thieves... (spoilers for series 11/season 37)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY0v8da4ovU
I think it's all faked for click revenue as well.
But, it is entertaining.
I'm amused at the perpetrator responses.'Come on, Bro.' ' Aw hell naw'
Having not RTFA, I'm wondering where this guy used to work years ago. Seems like that'd be relevant and they could repeat it over and over to get a ton of mileage out of it.
Can't wait for him to be accused of racism for targeting so many minorities.
I cannot express how thoroughly I enjoyed this video. Well done, Mark. Well done.
Right - not anymore. But the people in the video also have shown they are not hurt at all so they couldn't claim harm at this point...
I'm talking more for future scenarios if someone would be liable if one o the thieves held onto the device and wanted to sue.
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In this particular case, worth it.
Though I wish that there was a practical means of spraying out ground-up crayon wax, something that would embed itself into the fabric and melt into place. Unfortunately it would probably congeal while sitting on the porch.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
Then let's get rid of the evidence by doing it the Doctor Who way! (spoilers for series 11/season 37)
Co2 cartridge propelling magenta laser printer toner.
Yep, felony theft limit varies by state, but is just $500 to $1000 - even if those are cheaper Android phones that package probably goes over the limit.
So you can claim damages, but also get a felony theft rap... hmm.
If someone already had a felony theft charge previously though, I wonder if it would be as much a deterrent.
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The problem is UPS/FEDEX leave deliveries at the door, if there is no one to pickup them.
BUT USPS workers, on the other hand, leave a note (in customer mailbox) for customer to come to the Post Office & pickup their delivery! (Which, IMHO, is a practical solution for most people; UNLIKE WHAT UPS/FEDEX DOES!!!)
So how about UPS & FEDEX give people choice to pickup delivery from their offices?
(They often don't give such choice!!!)
OR, how about Amazon enable people to (always) choose, exactly, which delivery company will bring their package:
UPS?
FEDEX?
USPS?
Thatâ(TM)s what Iâ(TM)ve packed the boxes with after having hey similar doorstep disappearance in the past.
More booby-trapped packages in general might dissuade casual thieves. Ditto for law enforcement.
Meanwhile, thanks for doing the hard work and getting the publicity, Mark. Now, all I have to do to discourage theft is to put up a sign that says "Warning: packages may explode" with suitable graphic.
Seriously, what happened to the police's "broken windows" policy? I thought they were now supposed to investigate and prosecute small offenses like this to a) create a culture of obeying the law, and b) make citizens feel like the cops have their backs so they don't go vigilante. Which is what happened in this case.
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A lot of the solutions seem to involve giving Amazon drivers access to your home (shudder), or a heavy metal dropbox with keys and the like ... I find myself wondering if you'd solve 90% or more of the problem by simply having a box to dump things in without any sort of smarts or security. These people come by and see a package, and then are in-and-out quickly. They presumably aren't as interested in walking up and digging around on your porch three times a day just in case there's a package.
Of course, delivery people ain't got time to put a package in a box, so most likely they'd just leave the package on top of or in front of the box.
In my city, package theft, bike theft, car break ins are rampant. The police, no surprise, say that the are too busy with working more important crimes. This, though overall crime is way down (use this state chart as a place holder https://www.ppic.org/publicati...) and, again no surprise, the hiring of police officers is way up.
Why can't the police do a similar thing as this guy? Maybe without the glitter and and fart spray, but perhaps something similar to dye packs used in banks, though less powerful. It should be cheap and easy to GPS track a bait bike, package or take a picture when a bait car is broken into. The problem in my city is that the chance of a thief being caught, and then prosecuted are infinitesimally small. Making some examples of thieves and giving people a second thought as to whether or not their target is a honey pot would put these crimes of opportunity way down.
.....invented glitter
...that we live in a society where ambushing these pieces of shit is punished. You should be able to beat them with, say, up to a broom-handle.
I mean, no, I don't think it's justified to go all the way to kill them (although let's be clear: they're the sort of human trash that prevents us from having nice things), but honestly a booby-trap that blinds/maims them would be entirely justified in my book.
I guarantee you that these sorts of opportunistic thefts would decrease significantly.
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Where the discussion is moving towards he may cause physical harm. Plus the cost of this package to catch thieves in the act.
How about something simpler. A device that reacts by motion detection, which screams when picked up. "Help, Help. I am an Amazon Package that is being stolen by someone who is not the owner". Have this in a indefinite loop.
Would be a heck of a lot cheaper, and less chance of physical harm.
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Though I wish that there was a practical means of spraying out ground-up crayon wax, something that would embed itself into the fabric and melt into place. Unfortunately it would probably congeal while sitting on the porch.
I was going to suggest peanut butter powder, but ironically, that could actually hurt someone. Ditto my second choice, onion powder. Nobody is allergic to glucose, but it's a hazard to diabetics...
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I think with the above argument there is the idea the Revenge is Justice.
If a thief broke into my house and is stealing $1000 worth of goods, I catch him, and hurt/injure/kill him. Then that is normal self defense, because this guy is unlawfully in my house, I an unable to calculate his risk to my immediate safety.
However after he leave my house with those goods, I cannot hunt him down and hurt/injure/kill him and I would then be guilty of a crime. Because my safety is currently secured, and I would be able to calculate the risks of such actions. And having the criminal arrested and sentenced to court for a Judge to impartially figure out what is Just for the actions.
So he stole my Laptop, I may want to kill him. However this loss of my laptop is a minor inconvenience to my life, and with calmer minds, would realize that and punish the criminal for the crime and not me gut feeling.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
While I applaud Mr. Rober, I would think that he has set himself up for a huge lawsuit by whomever took the package.
Sure, up to a point. But law suits involve juries, and they'll be on his side.
100% agreed
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Burglar steals a TV and decides to use it at his home. TV bursts into flames and burns his house and he sues the man he stole it from.
Because that's the same as suing the man you stole the glitter spreading fart spraying fake amazon package from.
Man rapes a woman and catches STD that sterilizes his baby makers. He then sues the victim because he can't father children.
As indicated in the previous replies, it is a highly variable situation. Personally I've not heard of any of our neighbors complaining about theft, and I think over 15 years of one/week porch deliveries, we've experience one missing package.
As a Vendor I would start implementing a signature requirement if the systems picked up a level of, or an increase in, reported theft in a given area (certainly to the zip code-level, but I assume there is a way to slice that up as well...)
I wonder if the larger vendors feed this type of information back to the carriers? So carriers could provide recommendations to their entire customer base...
The real issue is that no one is doing anything about package theft. I've seen "surprise packages" done before and better and simpler. But none of this goes to tracking down the people who stole the package? Just about "punishing" package thiefs but that's not the way it works. Any basic psychology course could explain that. If one time you went to a vending machine and instead of a kit kat you got a rotten eggs you'd be grossed out and disgusted but the next weeek you'd be at the vending machine again. Ideally these surprise packages might scare them off your house but even that isn't so sure. I'd rather see something more geared to identifying the people involved and getting the police to DO something. Police waste their time doing so much nonsense I'd much rather them spend less money on tanks and whatever excess military gear they buy and more on tracking down package thieves.
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I actually get most of my Amazon packages delivered to me at work. They get received by people I trust in a warm warehouse and delivered to my desk. I don't have to worry about them being left out in the weather or stolen by neighbors, etc. Plus I have a driveway that the UPS drivers really don't want to bother with in the winter so it's a win for them too. Plus since the driver is already coming to our plant daily it saves a tiny bit of fuel too.
Why the fuck would anyone live in a neighbourhood where you have to lock your door or worry about stuff being stolen in your yard? If you live somewhere that dangerous and read slash dot I'm guessing you can afford to move to a first world nation.
My guess is that it's a question of enforcement bias. The FBI has jurisdiction over bank thefts and they are unlikely to suddenly reject the longstanding practice of using dye packs. That the FBI has jurisdiction means that local police will never pursue charges against a bank that used a dye pack. Plus the dye packs are probably already rubber stamped by the FBI as "safe".
In theory, this should make civilian use of dye packs just as justifiable, but because it involves petty larceny instead of the federal felony of bank robbery it's unlikely this will ever happen.
One of his "victims" had a multi-thousand dollar bike in his room.
What makes you think he paid for that bike?
I'm a minority race. Save your vitriol for white people.
but his copy cats will probably be dumb kids. I've already seen folks doing this with small explosives in order to get a loud "crack" and scare the person. If that keeps up sooner or later some dumb ass is gonna put an M-80 or something in a box and kill somebody.
And yes, this is why we can't have nice things. People are stupid on both sides of the isle.
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in a car. e.g. if it happened when a person was driving and caused in accident.
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and they usually come when I'm at work. So I'd have to drive down to a pick up point, which would defeat the purpose of ordering online.
Also, most companies eats lost and stolen packages. I'm well aware this is baked into the price of everything I buy online, but that seems a fair trade off for the convenience.
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Different parts of the world have different sorts of assholes. In some countries, if you put cash into a greeting card and mail it using the state postal service, the mailman will open it and steal the cash. It is expected. Forget about shipping something like a microwave in that country. It would never, ever, arrive.
OTOH, 97% of the USA land is rural and people generally respect other people's stuff. If you live in a place where their is a high asshole ratio, that just sucks. You should take extra precautions.
But over 75% of Americans don't live in places like that. I live near a metro area with 5.5M people. The only lost deliveries we've seen the last 20 yrs were due to incompetent delivery people, not theft. How do I know? We get notified when a delivery is made - I work from home. I'll often walk to the door and see the postal/UPS/FedEx truck up the street still making deliveries. But some times there isn't any truck and the photo of the package on the doorstep posted by Amazon is clearly NOT our house. It doesn't happen very often. Perhaps 3 times the last 20 yrs of deliveries and almost always with LaserShip as the carrier.
A few of my sisters live in very small towns in the midwest USA. One of them only lock their doors when they leave town. The postman/UPS guy delivers packages to their kitchen table if the weather isn't nice. They've known him 20 yrs. They know his parents and grandparents and his 3 kids. They attend the same church. Granted, that sister lives a very simple life without many gadgets, no real electronics. It is by choice. They don't have much that anyone would want to steal.
Their are plus sides to living with assholes. More theft, more crime, less freedom, but much more convenience for shopping, airports, travel, arts, etc. I'd rather drive 2 hrs into the city for "art" twice year than live near that many assholes all the time.
Plus, I like target shooting in my back yard. I bet the city wouldn't like that.
These packages have merely been delivered to an Undocumented Recipient.
This Guy = Legend-wait-for-it-ary.
Sorry, but this guy is nothing more than a petty vigilante, taking the law into his own hands. That's not the country we're supposed to be living in. Imagine if everyone who perceived they were wronged went out and exacted their own version of justice? It would be anarchy and mayhem.
This guy needs to be made an example of.
Wall mount package drop boxes are a thing. According to reviews, couriers can be convinced to use them if you put a sticker of their logo on the door. Obviously they only accept packages of limited dimensions, but some of the smallest packages tend to be the most valuable, so it should be quite useful. They're expensive, so there probably won't be a lot of retrofits, but I would expect new development housing to start including such things. There's little reason to believe this delivery-everything trend won't continue, so I would expect them to become bullet points on real estate listings before the end of the next decade.
That specific model has some design issues, and doesn't seem to have much in the way of direct competition. There are lots of stand alone porch drop boxes, but much fewer in-wall permanent installations. I expect that to improve too, though slowly.
Unless and until Amazon succeeds with drone delivery. Then all bets are off, and instead of this sort of thing, everybody will want a roof level delivery pad with integrated automated dumbwaiter.
Thin but hermetically sealed bag stuffed full of offal. Sitting in the sun all day, with one of those zip-locks with a plastic tab on the bottom. Pull box up, string attached to pulley pulls the zip open, offal goes down and out and everywhere.
If you're lucky enough to get a prosecutor with some time on their hands, you could go for trespass, theft, and, if the package was sent USPS, interfering with the mail, which is a federal felony, and possibly a state felony as well.
easily solved by not stealing the package.
I had the very same problem. First my house was robbed, then the package of security cameras and DVR system was stolen off my porch. I felt like I was being targeted.
My box was really simple, and was designed for a future deterrent, not a revenge tactic. I spoke to the police station about my idea before I built this and they told me that as long as I don't hurt anybody then the worst I would have to deal with would be a noise complaint.
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I balanced a big bowl of double strong food coloring on brick inside the box, I had cut holes holes in the bottom of the box, and rigged an amazon rape whistles pin to break off and activate right under it, with the loud part epoxied to the box. Package went on my porch on my way out to work. It worked as designed, somebody got the dogshit scared out of em, flung blue food coloring all over themselves and my porch, and the whole street got to hear the whistle. They tell me it went for about 10 minutes before it died or was destroyed somewhere in the field behind our homes. The clown still took the package, but left my porch alone for the rest of the year. I'm certain somebody saw the thief, but nobody wants to be the next target so nobody talked.
I've been considering doing it again, my packages are disappearing again, and rape whistles are super cheap.
Vengeance is fun and feels good, but at the end of the day, I just want my packages left alone.
Drop the stink bomb, use food safe dyes, and make it really loud. According to my local PD, storing these things in a box on my porch is perfectly legal. This costs less than 20 bucks, as long as your amazon rape whistle is not stolen off your porch.
You are being ripped off every second of every day, so that advertisers can help rip you off even more tomorrow.
you can probibly write "WARNING DO NOT STEAL AND DEFINETLY DO NOT OPEN" on the box and you will be in the clear. They will steal it anyway.
easily solved by not stealing the package.
I think the point the poster was making is that the accident could result in death or injury to innocent third parties who were not involved in the theft.
If I can be modded down for being a troll, can I be modded up for being an orc, or a balrog?
A diehard racist would use that as an excuse for more protection for whites. Reinstate the policy but ignore the black neighborhoods. They can't scream racist, and white folks get their ultimately unimportant crimes investigated. Win-win.
Racists don't even know how to race.
even if they're the only ones that get killed or injured it's not worth it. For the person getting the package it's a minor inconvenience. They report it lost and get it resent. We all pay a bit more in shrinkage, but I doubt it's very much. If these package thieves get too busy the cops take them out eventually.
Basically, my dinky little $100 order from Amazon isn't worth risking somebody's life for and my $1500, once every 7 years major PC upgrade gets a signature.
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Banks also got bailed out on our dime. They are special and more powerful than "the law" and don't forget it.
Why guess when you can know? Measure!
Sounds to me you think only black people are thieves. You sure whistled it loudly enough.
No he didn't, dumbass. Learn how adjectives work. "Deadly" mantraps are illegal. "not deadly" are not illegal. Why is that so fucking hard for you to understand?
You obviously have never been glitter bombed. It's forever. Glitter is the herpes of the crafting world.
Why guess when you can know? Measure!
It would be nice if the police did something like this. Given that no one is telling the thieves to steal the packages, I don't think it would qualify as entrapment. So want to boost your police department's investigation success rate? Set up a dozen such packages on the doorstep of volunteers, track the thieves to their lair, arrest everyone who is full of glitter (or got stained through whichever method is appropriate). Open and shut cases. Fewer thieves on the streets.
I guess you'd need a bunch of different packages types, maybe some real ones in cooperation with Amazon, etc. And once the local thieves have learned not to steal packages on doorsteps, first you've won, and you can send the packages to the police department of the next town over. Borrow them back for a booster shot whenever the local thieves get stupid again.
Actually the gov't made money from the bailouts.
https://money.usnews.com/investing/articles/2017-01-19/financial-crisis-bailouts-have-earned-taxpayers-billions
If they were opening the package while driving it's on them. I don't think a little glitter is going to cause somebody to crash a car.
I don't understand why blurring the faces of the thieves.
The fact there is a video proves that they stole it, so there is no doubt and shouldn't be any remorse to out them publicly.
Is what's fucking wrong with this country.
They should be thankful our engineer didn't go all Unabomber on their ass. THAT would have made an AWESOME news story.
Serial package thief atomized inside car, news at eleven.
they should go back to robbing old ladies in the street. Or we could ask ourselves why somebody's bothering to steal packages in the first place. There's plenty of risk, especially given our draconian sentencing laws (three strikes and you're out, you could do 20,30 years for stealing a $10 pair of crap earbuds).
Man, I swear, America is way, way too into making people suffer.
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In the video the faces of the perpetrators have been blurred out. Why not show and shame the guilty? Put a written warning on the package that says "by opening this box you consent to video recording" or whatever disclaimer deemed necessary.
If I am on a Jury with this case, I would laugh so hard! AND award legal fees to the accused!
Look, I get that all the time "awww! You could've caused an accident with that! What's wrong with you??" and yet to this day the driver has always arrived safely.
Fit fake packages with every legal known allergy causing substance, and spray that on them; if they die, it wasn't your fault.
I'd prefer spraying them with Anthrax spores, but the Guys at Ft. Detrick won't answer my phone calls anymore, ever since my buddy died/killed himself. :(
The army guys wouldn't give me any VX or Sarin, even tho I said it was for "research purposes" on my neighbors cats. And Dogs. And Neighbors...
Anyone know anyone with Ebola? I'm asking for a friend... :)
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Faces of the thieves are masked out which means these videos are fake, made by the inventor himself.
The risk is tiny. Hot coffee can be a risk as well, but many thousand people a day drive with hot coffee.
...in a such shitty neighborhood?
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If we are to assume that the statistical likelihood of having a package stolen is roughly uniform, i.e. criminals target random homes with packages out front, then one of three facts are true:
1) He and his friends and associates have a statistically improbable likelihood of being targeted versus the average
2) Package theft is so rampant in his neighborhood that even with a presumed uniform likelihood of being targeted, there were still enough samples to provide the 4 or 5 "gotcha'' videos
3) These 'thefts' were pre-arranged by actors to help make him a Youtube star
We know that if #2 were true, and package theft were such a rampant problem, the police would care about it and be doing something. But, if we believe his claim that the police don't care, we can scratch #2 off the list.
We can scratch #1 off the list as being far more improbable than #3, which if we apply Occam's Razor, we can probably presume to be the option that holds the most truth.
Therefore, this video is a complete and utter fake by a charlatan trying to make money off of Youtube and hocking some fly-by-night VPN service.
I think the OP has gotten more replies to anything else I've put up with the overwhelming response being "You're an idiot; Rober was justified and no where will the thief be able to sue him".
Get out your Google machines and look up "Criminals Sue Victims" - they may all not be successful but a lot of criminals do try to sue their victims.
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I see we have a neo-liberal mod out modding everything down as troll here. Don't have to bring race into though as I've seen plenty of webcams where the thieves are white. This one was.
It's not trolling, it's historically accurate. Most civilian recourse against any kind of home invading criminal is treated as vigilantism and is often viewed more harshly than the original crime, by bleeding hearts judges. You can't booby trap your own property. And there are a lot of messed up people out there who think it's no big deal if this guy gets his packages stolen because he's so well off and "privileged", they see some twisted kind of Robin Hood metaphor in it.
I guarantee if someone does something like this again, and there is now a high likelihood there will be copycats, they will eventually be charged with a crime of some sort. I'd put money on it.
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Bingo, get an old style milk box for the porch. And a paint sprayer. And a remote controlled car that drove out and launched a bunch of magnetic trackers onto the suspect vehicle. And an autonomous tire shredder, and some other thing that ran under their car and poked a hole in their oil pan. And another thing that knocked them down and probed them up the ass for an hour....
The person driving the car should not be opening packages while driving. Wouldn't that be the reason for the accident? So it is still the criminal's fault.
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No, you don't have to bring race into it, and sure, there are a lot of white criminals out there. This video did, however, make me think of a conversation I had recently which went something like:
"The fact that African Americans are so heavily overrepresented in police shootings is proof that the whole system is racist!"
"Well sure, they're overrepresented per capita, but that's because they tend to commit more violent crime per capita as well. What do you want the police to do; ignore black criminals?"
"They don't commit more crime per capita; they're just targeted by police more so that it looks like they do!"
At which point I shook my head and walked away. A large number of SJWs think this way, and I could totally see them trying to explain away the huge percentage of black thieves in this video as "targeting" or something equally silly.
Blacks and whites smoke marijuana at about the same rate per capita.
Blacks are 300% more likely to go to jail for marijuana possession.
The fact that there are more blacks in jail for having weed despite whites and blacks having the same use rate shows that there is an imbalance in the system that is prejudiced against blacks. Kind of like how you so clearly are.
I say this as someone who has never smoked weed and doesn't particularly like blacks.
Blacks are 300% more likely to go to jail for marijuana possession.
That's basically nonsense. This particular propaganda talking point is brought to you by people who want you to believe that millions of minorities are going to jail just for having a bit of weed on them. In reality most convictions for marijuana possession happen simultaneously with convictions for other crimes. So when home-boy robs a convinience store, then gets put away for robbery plus having some weed on him, these clowns count him as a poor innocent victim arrested for possession.
Get a camera with a chime -- chime plays when someone approaches, thief looks at where the chime came from, sees the camera, and moves on without committing a crime: https://youtu.be/1QTt6T7BC-k