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Debian's Anti-Harassment Team Is Removing A Package Over Its Name (phoronix.com)
quantic_oscillation7 shares a report: The latest notes from the Debian anti-harassment team on Wednesday caught my attention when reading, "We were requested to advice on the appropriateness of a certain package in the Debian archive. Our decision resulted in the package pending removal from the archive." Curiosity got the best of me... What package was deemed too inappropriate for the Debian archive?
When digging further, the package raised to the Debian Anti-Harassment Team was "Weboob." Weboob is short for "Web Outside of Browsers" as it's an open-source collection of software to script and automate the parsing/scraping/gathering-via-API of web data so that it can be consumed by different modules/applications. Weboob.org describes itself as "Weboob is a collection of applications able to interact with websites, without requiring the user to open them in a browser. It also provides well-defined APIs to talk to websites lacking one."
Weboob is Python-based and offers Qt-based user interfaces for accessing these different modules for reading data from different web-sites outside of any conventional web browser. Those interested can learn more about the software at Weboob.org. But, yes, the name is juvenile and likely inappropriate in most professional/corporate environments.
When digging further, the package raised to the Debian Anti-Harassment Team was "Weboob." Weboob is short for "Web Outside of Browsers" as it's an open-source collection of software to script and automate the parsing/scraping/gathering-via-API of web data so that it can be consumed by different modules/applications. Weboob.org describes itself as "Weboob is a collection of applications able to interact with websites, without requiring the user to open them in a browser. It also provides well-defined APIs to talk to websites lacking one."
Weboob is Python-based and offers Qt-based user interfaces for accessing these different modules for reading data from different web-sites outside of any conventional web browser. Those interested can learn more about the software at Weboob.org. But, yes, the name is juvenile and likely inappropriate in most professional/corporate environments.
Just change the name to something like Webob . . . . oh wait, that may be worse.
The name is not juvenile. The people reading it and giggling are juvenile. It's like the stupid joke in Austin Powers over the Asian name Fuk.
People need to learn to respond more professionally to things their own juvenile personality deems offensive.
(...) likely inappropriate in most professional/corporate environments (...)
That may well be but it's also completely irrational. The only thing "wrong" with the name is that people probably associate it with boobs, which is all in their heads. Even worse, they apparently fear boobs. Which is also in their heads.
So Debian has now banned a package because its combination of letters triggers irrational things in peoples heads. They've gone mad.
Also, on top of that, there's nothing wrong with boobs. On the contrary: they are what feed our babies and they are the most defining body part of our the class of mammals. They are beautiful and shall be honored, for example by naming software after them.
Boobs.
0x or or snor perron?!
It hurts.
And I meant that Debian has an "anti-harassment team" that can remove packages. This is the wrong way to solve _what_ problem?
It is just sad how PC the world has become. If you are offended -- go fuck yourself.
OMG we have some foul language in our source code -- need a PR now!
OMG the name of a package has the word boob in it -- MUST REMOVE NOW!
Fucking ridiculous.
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Debian's anti-harassment and sugarland fairy team removed the number 8008. This number is just juvenile and inappropriate in corporate environments. This will not affect the size of objects in anyway as infinity will not be affected and calculators will refuse to allow the number to be punched in.
"The missing number doesn't really affect the accuracy of the numbers as, at that size, its little more than a rounding error and the slight inconvenience is inconsequential to affecting the feelings of millions of persons and transgender persons who are offended by the term"
Sometimes guys an an acronym is just that.
If anti-harassment is the reason why it was being removed, why was there no mention of who was being harassed and who reported the harassment?
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I mean, it's stupid and silly, but don't you see the latent irony in you crying and breathlessly whining about political correctness like this is a big deal? It's not. Dry your tears snowflake.
Maybe we need to ban most of these dirty commands too!
Um no "Web-Oh-Oh-Bee" is perfectly fine. The name is only juvenile of you yourself are a child and decide to pronounce it a different way.
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If it isn't objectionable when it actually refers to mammary glands on well endowed non- or pre-mastectomy patients, then it isn't objectionable when it refers to the web software.
This is the same kind of stupidity that plagues things like the closed captioning on one specific TV channel -- MeTV -- for example. Watch with CC turned on and you'll see the actors making "xxxxtails", or playing badminton with "shuttlexxxxs". Or our lovely local newspaper with a blog that won't allow anyone to refer directly to a city councilor whose first name is "Richard" but always goes by his nickname.
Sheesh. People think the world hates us because we "meddle". Maybe it's because we make such big stupid stinks over such ridiculous first-world problems.
If anti-harassment is the reason why it was being removed, why was there no mention of who was being harassed and who reported the harassment?
This. I'm normally in favor of going after assholes who abuse and intimidate others. The extreme right would probably label me an SJW for not approving of sexual harassment, or being perfectly OK with Les Moonves being thrown out on his ass without his $120M golden parachute.
But this is ridiculous, and this is why, to paraphrase Bill Maher, "nobody likes you." It's not enough to be enlightened enough to go after dicks, you've got to learn how to not be one yourself. This smacks of the kind of humorless overzealousness that leadds to things like "woody" being banned because these fools can't tell if you're referring to an animated child's toy from a Pixar movie, or an erection, and since it could, possibly, be the latter, better ban it!
Remember the boob tube? It didn't refer to women's breast, it referred to the "boobs" (idiots) who watched it. But I bet that will set the fools off foaming at the mouth, and I say that as one who by and large SUPPORTS anti-harrassment policies.
The Weboob dev team sets off the asshole detector pretty hard.
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Problem solved - GET BACK TO WORK you neckbearded shirkslags.
Like that stopped people calling the XBoxOne the "X-Bone" or stopped people calling Experts Exchange "Expert Sexchange".
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I'm at work. I don't know if I should google it. WTF does 'weboob' mean? Why should I be offended by it?
Weboob is offensive to the developers who worked on the project by suggesting that all male developers all have man-boobs.
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The enemy has clearly managed to get even deeper into Debian.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
to watch for dubious package names, that's all. It's not nothing to do with harassment, and if there wasn't a growing anti-SJW community riding a massive overreaction to an overreaction for YouTube videos and Patreon donations (with a healthy dose of money from right wing think tanks) we wouldn't have even noticed.
Keep calm and Debian on. This kind of stuff happens. Middle managers get sticks up their but over this sort of thing. If you've got to blame somebody blame them.
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I've been running Debian on a hosted virtual machine for the past 15 years or so. I guess it's time to find a new distribution. I don't use Weboob, but I'm not going to support an organization that has given in to terrorists.
Will eventually go to far and make themselves in to a perfect copy of what they are there to prevent.
From http://weboob.org/applications...
.torrent files.
Textual applications, both command-line and REPL.
Boobank - List your bank accounts balances, their expenses, transfer money, etc.
Boobcoming - List events, fill your calendar.
Boobill - List your subscriptions, view and download the bill details.
Booblyrics - Get lyrics of songs.
Boobmsg - Read and post public and private messages.
Boobooks - List your books rented and get your booking history.
Boobsize - Display various gauges status.
Boobtracker - View, edit and create issues on bugtrackers.
Cineoob - Search movies, persons, torrents, subtitles, and get info about them.
Comparoob - Compare prices of products.
Cookboob - Search recipes, find one, and cook.
Flatboob - Search for housings to buy or rent.
Galleroob - Find and download web image galleries.
Geolooc - Geolocalize IP addresses.
Handjoob - Search for a job.
Havedate - Interact with dating websites, and get popular.
Parceloob - Parcel tracking.
Pastoob - Submit and get text (source code, backtraces) to pastebin-like websites.
Radioob - Search for radios, and get direct stream URLs and current playing songs.
Shopoob - Obtain details and status of e-commerce orders.
Suboob - Find and download subtitles.
Translaboob - Translation functions.
Traveloob - View public transportation timetables.
Videoob - Search for videos, get their direct URLs, download them or play them.
WebContentEdit - Manage and edit content on supported collaborative websites like wikis.
weboob-config - Show, install, update and configure backends.
Weboorrents - Search for torrents and download the
Wetboobs - Display current weather and to see forecasts.
systemD would be what would set me off.
Anything that ends in a D should be immediately removed from all debian distros,
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I've been a debian user, supporter and developer for over 20 years.
I'm the first one to shut down losery assholes when they disrespect others, regardless of gender, ethnicity, or any other immutable trait. Further, I absolutely get that women, in particular, face endless bullshit from loser guys who just can't behave.
But the political correctness thing in general (and this in particular) is like cancer. Once it starts, it spreads, until eventually it kills the host.
Remember, folks: offense is taken, not given.
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It's about time we get Linux politically correct.
"man" pages are a relic of toxic masculinity and the superiority complex of the patriarchy and are now "person" pages.
The "yes" command is considered reaffirming the male belief that the only applicable answer a woman could ever give is actually yes and it will now be complemented by a "no" command. Ignoring this results in a crash of the system, this is not a bug but a feature of the system protecting itself from being overpowered by its (usually male) user.
Likewise, commands are no longer allowed to accept --force parameters.
"mail" shows gender bias and will for now be symlinked to "femail" until a gender neutral replacement can be established.
You are no longer allowed to "touch" files without proper permission.
"more" is no longer available as a relic of the consumer-capitalist ideals of more being always better, the use of "less" is now enforced for all applications.
The environmentally problematic Latex is replaced by the biodegradable Kleenex.
shell commands
"kill" is no longer appropriate and has been replace with the much more acceptable "euthanize". Programs have to agree to being euthanized before their termination.
"abort()" is now "choice()"
"history" has been rewritten. It's now "herstory".
terminology and phrases
Terminals are no longer considered "dumb" or "smart". All are equally valuable.
The word "Daemons" is considered pejorative in some religions, we now speak of "spiritual guides".
X-Window system is now the NC-17 Window System.
I dare not continue. Some idiot will probably take this serious and do it...
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
After digging deeper, I've decided to provide links and no commentary
https://translate.google.com/t...
(although some of it is in english)
http://weboob.org/applications...
https://lists.debian.org/debia...
http://laurent.bachelier.name/...
https://git.weboob.org/weboob/...
https://git.weboob.org/weboob/...
The name is not juvenile. The people reading it and giggling are juvenile. It's like the stupid joke in Austin Powers over the Asian name Fuk.
People need to learn to respond more professionally to things their own juvenile personality deems offensive.
Apparently it goes beyond the name and other parts of it include juvenile humor. It's something the developers will regret later. I know I'm kinda embarrassed nowadays about all the tables, columns and functions I've used "Ass" as short hand for words like "Assignment", "Association" etc,etc. I have a "Request Ass" table out there in one database and whereas it made me laugh 7 years ago- now it makes me cringe.
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Well, if you set up a committee to find offensive stuff, they will find it. Guaranteed. Even if they - as in this case - have to dig exceedingly deep.
If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
You must absolutely loathe your second name by now.
It is right there in the summary: WEB Out Of Browser. WEBOOB.
Is being at work the reason you can't read the summary, either?
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Hmm...
As i Debian user i do feel offended by this word ... "systemd"
Better notify the anti-harassment team they have one more package to forever purge ...
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Geez, now we're having to police acroyms, because someone might read something into one and be snowflake offended?
It's a way of getting people to waste their time and energy trying to come up with other options that don't offend them. The answer with people like this is to put it back on them. If you don't like the acronym "Weboob" come up with one that doesn't offend you and still describes what the project does. Their goal is to frustrate you until you finally tell them to where to go, at which point they can turn around and say you're unwilling to co-operate.
Have no doubt requests like this are a sign of mental illness in the same way Rorschach tests are used to identify anti-social people who only see sexual images in the random patterns. Instead their, quite abused, minds see only sexual connotations in the acronyms in an attempt to be morally superior to those who created the acronym.
The mistake is to allow oneself to be drawn into expending mental energy on their behalf. Simply accept their criticism and ask them to come back with a minimum of five suggestions for you to choose from as an alternative name. Chances are they won't come back, however if they do then simply pick the name you prefer and move on. Under no circumstances should they be engaged in a way that causes you to waste time thinking on their behalf. That is allowing yourself to succumb to their form of psychological abuse.
Feeding into this mentality by attempting to come up with an acronym that won't offend someone who wants to be offended is enabling the behavior and, quite frankly, is as offensive as the original request because it validates and propagates the abuse.
This is what narcissism looks like, it's a loser's mentality. Don't feed it.
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Actually this is not about what you identify in the pattern and has never been. What the psychiatrist observe, is when he asks you HOW you came to the idea (which part remind you of what) and what RATIONALIZATION you use. In other word they could not care less that you see a particularly salty penis in one picture (or a breast , vagina or anus) in fact the picture could still be very similar to one. No what they care is how you reason your way around it, how consistent you are about it, if you show pattern of pathology in your explanations. The content you assign to the picture does not matter. In fact you could joke about identifying all as sex/murder picture but be perfectly fine mentally, and the next guy only see cuddly tears but be recognized due to its pattern and rationalization, be identified as pathological.
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