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Debian's Anti-Harassment Team Is Removing A Package Over Its Name (phoronix.com)

quantic_oscillation7 shares a report: The latest notes from the Debian anti-harassment team on Wednesday caught my attention when reading, "We were requested to advice on the appropriateness of a certain package in the Debian archive. Our decision resulted in the package pending removal from the archive." Curiosity got the best of me... What package was deemed too inappropriate for the Debian archive?

When digging further, the package raised to the Debian Anti-Harassment Team was "Weboob." Weboob is short for "Web Outside of Browsers" as it's an open-source collection of software to script and automate the parsing/scraping/gathering-via-API of web data so that it can be consumed by different modules/applications. Weboob.org describes itself as "Weboob is a collection of applications able to interact with websites, without requiring the user to open them in a browser. It also provides well-defined APIs to talk to websites lacking one."

Weboob is Python-based and offers Qt-based user interfaces for accessing these different modules for reading data from different web-sites outside of any conventional web browser. Those interested can learn more about the software at Weboob.org. But, yes, the name is juvenile and likely inappropriate in most professional/corporate environments.

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  1. Rename it by reboot246 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just change the name to something like Webob . . . . oh wait, that may be worse.

    1. Re:Rename it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Webob is actually a package that already exists.

    2. Re:Rename it by magarity · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just change the name to something like Webob . . . . oh wait, that may be worse.

      Add a dash: "Web-Oob"

    3. Re:Rename it by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Just change the name to something like Webob . . . . oh wait, that may be worse.

      Add a dash: "Web-Oob"

      At this point, because it has become a "news-item" they would have to rename it something drastically different if they didn't want most people to call it We-boob just for a laugh. If this hadn't broken news they could have put the dash in and been done with it; however, now this has broken news they will have to completely rename it if they don't want people to call it We Boob.

      --
      "That's the way to do it" - Punch
    4. Re:Rename it by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 1

      From the committee notes:

      As Gregor Herrmann eloquently put it, it's "not ok to use the boobs theme for a web scraper or other software unrelated to boobs [sic] themselves, where its only function is to make a small group of users giggle while objectifying, offending or boring the rest of the world."

      We appreciate uploading a new version without the insults (and thank Jonathan Dowland for his efforts[2][3] on this front). Please note that the insults and homophobic language *is* a flagrant violation of Debian's CoC and in our opinion, Debian should not ship new software including them.

      [2] from their code:
      if not self.check_loaded_backends({'url': 'https://symlink.me'}):
                                print("Ok, so leave now, fag.")

    5. Re:Rename it by msauve · · Score: 1

      Change it to "Hooters," or "Twin Peaks."

      --
      "National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
    6. Re:Rename it by msauve · · Score: 1

      ...meant to add, next thing they'll want to get rid of "fsck".

      --
      "National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
    7. Re:Rename it by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 5, Funny

      From the committee notes:

      it's "not ok to use the boobs theme for a web scraper or other software unrelated to boobs [sic] themselves, where its only function is to make a small group of users giggle while objectifying, offending or boring the rest of the world."

      Understandable...

      Debian's Anti-Harassment Team Is Removing A Package Over Its Name

      But I'm offended that they're calling it a "Package".

      --
      "That's the way to do it" - Punch
    8. Re:Rename it by haruchai · · Score: 4, Informative

      ...meant to add, next thing they'll want to get rid of "fsck".

      And blocking the installation of Gimp and git

      --
      Pain is merely failure leaving the body
    9. Re:Rename it by Spy+Handler · · Score: 4, Insightful

      it should've been named WOOB from the beginning anyways. It's an acronym, right? Acronyms are supposed to take the first letter of each word in the name. Web Out Of Brower. WOOB.

      WEB-OOB was a stretch and I don't like it when people stretch things to make clever-sounding acronyms. Yeah I will never join the US military, their acronyms will drive me insane. BTW this is not even about SJW, I have no social agenda to justice-ize. I don't care if you have boobs or tits or whatever in your source code.

    10. Re: Rename it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Linux is effectively killed when they turn their attention to 'mount'

    11. Re:Rename it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      For an encore the Debianistas might clean up the 90+ Indic, Malaysian, Thai, etc, etc, etc fonts that shove themselves down every distro downstream. Maybe the Calamity installer can LOOK at your location or better ASK...
      If you ARE in a country using those writing systems, then great, please install and enjoy. But this shoves the entire kitchen sink in for everyone. You simply cannot be in Georgia, Malaysia, all 34 states of India (with sub-varieties), Korea, the UAE _and_ your own location at the same time. It becomes a usability issue. Does Windows or Apple force 90+ fonts you will never use on you with a new machine? No. So the challenge is laid out Debianistas, now fix the real issue.
      What next, they hunt down 'boob' in Gurarati and force another app name change. Swahili, Estonian.... keep going, job for life.

    12. Re: Rename it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's a violation of debians CoCk?
      Why are debian allowed cock jokes but these guys aren't allowed boob jokes?

    13. Re:Rename it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Rername it to "Snowflakes".

    14. Re:Rename it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      It is not like that team has any members, they are all pussies.

    15. Re: Rename it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      We(.)(.)

    16. Re:Rename it by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      JFC.....really?

      I guess this is new from the "Are You Fucking Kidding Me Department".....?

      Geez, now we're having to police acroyms, because someone might read something into one and be snowflake offended?

      --
      Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
    17. Re:Rename it by Kyr+Arvin · · Score: 1

      I suspect that they install fonts that you don't "need" so that if you ever come across content like that, you can see the characters instead of random boxes, even if you can't understand the characters. It's a perception thing -- those boxes it uses if it doesn't have a font, that just looks broken, and it gives people the feeling that someone forgot something, or the system was sloppily designed. But if they see it in a full character set they can't read? Well everyone understands that. That's expected.

    18. Re: Rename it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Certain parts of the word "hara**ment" are highly offensive to me as a person who has an a**.

    19. Re:Rename it by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Does it actually need a bunch of fonts for that though?

      "GNU FreeFont (also known as Free UCS Outline Fonts) is a family of free OpenType, TrueType and WOFF vector fonts, implementing as much of the Universal Character Set (UCS) as possible." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Three font styles (-Serif, -Sans, and -Mono), aiming to work for any language, even if right now FreeSerif, the most complete, only includes about 10,000 glyphs (I find it quite useful for using uncommon specialist glyphs intermixed with normal text.)

      What would be the penalty for including one "uberfont" that was simply an amalgamation of every specialized OSS font out there. Not necessarily even a consistent look to start with, just - this font can display any unicode text correctly. It would probably be kind of huge, but it would remove the overhead of digging though massive piles of irrelevant fonts when looking for the one you want.

      --
      --- Most topics have many sides worth arguing, allow me to take one opposite you.
    20. Re: Rename it by Spy+Handler · · Score: 1

      I'm not against *proper* acronyms. BTW and SJW are properly made. What I'm against are bad acronyms that do not adhere to the rule I explained in my original post.

      Example of a bad military acronym: RESURRECT ---> "REstoring SURvivability by REConstructing Trauma"

    21. Re:Rename it by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 2

      JFC.....really?
      I guess this is new from the "Are You Fucking Kidding Me Department".....?

      We're really busy these days.

    22. Re: Rename it by danbert8 · · Score: 2

      BTW and SJW aren't acronyms, they are initialisms. You can't pronounce either as a word. I do support acronyms that drop minor words from the abbreviation similar to the capitalization rules of titles.

      For example, the local police department got a HEAT unit grant for Highway Enforcement of Aggressive Traffic. They didn't like my suggestion to start a special unit for the Highway Enforcement of the Left Lane though...

      --
      Yes it's an anecdote! Were you expecting original research in a Slashdot comment?
    23. Re: Rename it by Freischutz · · Score: 1, Troll

      It's a violation of debians CoCk? Why are debian allowed cock jokes but these guys aren't allowed boob jokes?

      Because only Americans could become concerned about the potential for harassment in Debian software package names and Americans are a strange people who get psychologically scarred for life if they see a nipple on TV but have no problems taking their kids to see a movie about a Jewish guy being tortured and then nailed to a cross?

    24. Re:Rename it by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      and thankfully finger is old and out of date ...

      --
      Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos
    25. Re:Rename it by infolation · · Score: 1

      But I'm offended that they're calling it a "Package".

      No need to be. I checked

      apt-cache show weboob | grep Installed-Size

      and it's quite a small package.

    26. Re:Rename it by infolation · · Score: 1

      Nowadays all the millenials are using

      Date; wine; talk; touch; unzip; touch; strip; gasp; finger; gasp; groupadd; mount; fsck; nice; more; yes; wait; watch; gasp; man paste; eject; gasp; umount; make clean; kill; sleep; disown;

    27. Re:Rename it by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      Why not, the first listing for definition of Boob, A stupid or foolish person, clearly the person who chose to ban it. Fuck you Debian, you are attacking words people use in regular language, in fact generally speaking, boobie is for breast and boob is for idiots.

      --
      Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
    28. Re:Rename it by amalcolm · · Score: 1

      Not in the uk. Boobie is a type of seagulll, boob definitely breast

      --
      Time for bed, said Zebedee - boing
    29. Re:Rename it by ISayWeOnlyToBePolite · · Score: 1

      What would be the penalty for including one "uberfont" that was simply an amalgamation of every specialized OSS font out there. Not necessarily even a consistent look to start with, just - this font can display any unicode text correctly. It would probably be kind of huge, but it would remove the overhead of digging though massive piles of irrelevant fonts when looking for the one you want.

      Report a bug!

    30. Re:Rename it by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      I think it's reasonably apparent that the reference to breasts was intentional, not just something that others read into it. Notably, logos for the project emphasise the pair of Os.
      The logo is a pair of christmas glass balls for a christmas tree.

      I guess most non native english speakers would definitely not associate "boob" in the name Weboob with "boobs" ... after all the project is not named Webreasts or Wetits ....

      If there was not this /. article, the connection never had occured to me.

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
    31. Re: Rename it by Evtim · · Score: 1

      The real question is who is her and why her ass is bad?

    32. Re: Rename it by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      RESURRECT can be pronounced and spoken out as a word like NATO, RSRT can't.

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
    33. Re: Rename it by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      Homophobia. How very progressive of you.

    34. Re: Rename it by greenfruitsalad · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Haven't we already gone through this with fortune-off, hot-babe and whatever-else? Just create a separate debian offensive repository and move everything that offends people in there. Eventually, it'll be the only repository with any packages and we can rename it to main or something.

    35. Re: Rename it by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      You must be an American because it never occurred to you that people might be able and willing to write in several different foreign languages.

      --
      "It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
    36. Re:Rename it by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      The list of applications has no single logo that is "sexual" in any way, or has a reference to boobs ...
      Perhaps you need new glasses?

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
    37. Re:Rename it by james_gnz · · Score: 1

      The list of applications has no single logo that is "sexual" in any way, or has a reference to boobs ...
      Perhaps you need new glasses?

      I wasn't so much thinking about the logos here as the names. QBooblyrics, QBoobMsg, QCookboob, and QFlatBoob seem obviously "boob" themed to me, and "QHandjoob" seems like an obvious sexual reference. I'm surprised you don't find it obvious.

    38. Re: Rename it by james_gnz · · Score: 1

      You must be around 12 if a bare reference to the word breasts embarasses you.

      I wouldn't be embarrassed if the package was actually breast-related, e.g. related to mammograms or something. The issue for me is that I'd like to promote Debian as something professional, but this just seems a bit juvenile.

    39. Re:Rename it by sosume · · Score: 1

      > What next, they hunt down 'boob' in Gurarati and force another app name change

      Why is it that "offensive" names are only fixed when in English? Face it, any combination of letters can be an offensive term in any language. Better stop giving names at all and use guids or numbers instead to describe packages. Excluding obvious offender numbers such as 13 and 69. "Are you running e53-c27a13-3.1-beta2?"

    40. Re:Rename it by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Ah, you found some boobs, good for you.
      Glancing over the names I missed them ...

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
  2. No. You are juvenile. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The name is not juvenile. The people reading it and giggling are juvenile. It's like the stupid joke in Austin Powers over the Asian name Fuk.

    People need to learn to respond more professionally to things their own juvenile personality deems offensive.

  3. Boobs! by zmooc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    (...) likely inappropriate in most professional/corporate environments (...)

    That may well be but it's also completely irrational. The only thing "wrong" with the name is that people probably associate it with boobs, which is all in their heads. Even worse, they apparently fear boobs. Which is also in their heads.

    So Debian has now banned a package because its combination of letters triggers irrational things in peoples heads. They've gone mad.

    Also, on top of that, there's nothing wrong with boobs. On the contrary: they are what feed our babies and they are the most defining body part of our the class of mammals. They are beautiful and shall be honored, for example by naming software after them.

    Boobs.

    --
    0x or or snor perron?!
    1. Re:Boobs! by arth1 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Next up is probably removing man pages for being sexist.
      And engrampa for making fun of the elderly.

    2. Re:Boobs! by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So Debian has now banned a package because its combination of letters triggers irrational things in peoples heads.

      All words are just arbitrary combinations of letters that convey meanings.

      That doesn't magically make them all appropriate for all environments.

      I'm sure it wouldn't take long to find a string of letters that you would blanch at, if it were a package name in Debian.

    3. Re:Boobs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How 'bout removing libass - now that's a dirty name if ever there was one.
      There's probably hundreds of library and package names that are innocently
      offensive - I say delete them all - we're better off without them!

      This SJW stuff has gotten completely out of hand.

      CAP === 'actress'

    4. Re:Boobs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They should change it to Manual explanation. or mansplain for short ;)

    5. Re: Boobs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      So called man pages are being exploited and forced into gender stereotypes.

      Worse, referring to them as pages harkens back to feudal times and reinforces the patriarchy.

      All documentation not only must be referred to in a gender non specific manner until said documentation can declare its own gender or genders, but needs to be empowered to decide on its own what it will document.

      Anything less is exploitive and regressive.

      We must do better.

    6. Re: Boobs! by reanjr · · Score: 1

      You should generally avoid three letter commands due to conflicts. There's only one global namespace of commands. In addition WOB has the implication it's going to be dealing with printers as it's used in other commands to mean white-on-black.

    7. Re:Boobs! by zmooc · · Score: 1

      All words are just arbitrary combinations of letters that convey meanings.

      Yes. And the meaning here is "boob". What on earth is wrong with boob or boobs?!

      This is not about all combinations of letters conveying things. It is about people responding irrationally to those things. We should not name packages that rationally affect people. Things like swear words, insults or hateful language. A boob is no such thing. In fact, it is one of the kindest body parts in existence.

      And if we absolutely must remove something that's named after a body part, I suggest we start by removing all appendices.

      --
      0x or or snor perron?!
    8. Re:Boobs! by geekmux · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So Debian has now banned a package because its combination of letters triggers irrational things in peoples heads.

      All words are just arbitrary combinations of letters that convey meanings.

      That doesn't magically make them all appropriate for all environments.

      You know what's not "appropriate" here? Acting like a child who's offended at an acronym.

      People need to grow the fuck up already.

    9. Re:Boobs! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's not in their heads, the project itself went out of its way to get boobs into everything. Look at the official list of apps, half of them work "boob" into the title for no reason by dropping the "we".

      It already had to patch out homophobic slurs from the output. Not a comment in the source, the output of the binary.

      The principal here is outlined in this post on the Debian mailing list.

      This whole discussion reminded me of a campaign by the German project
      pinkstinks.de called "Sexy yes, sexism no":

      https://pinkstinks.de/sexy-ode...

      Summary in my words:

      It's fine to show a woman in underwear if you try to sell women's
      underwear (left picture: "Bra 29 EUR").
      It's not ok to show a woman in underwear if you try to sell a chair
      (and the scantily clad woman is just decoration / an object to draw
      attention to the ad) (right picture: "Chair 199 EUR").
      I think that explains the issue of objectification quite well.

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    10. Re:Boobs! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Informative

      By the logic used to reach this decision, no, man pages and engrampa are both quite safe.

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    11. Re: Boobs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Guess what the number one dictionary definition of boob is. Hint: it has nothing to do with breasts. To be fair, maybe you don't use dictionaries because of the dic.

    12. Re: Boobs! by Dog-Cow · · Score: 2

      It's not the phone that's broken. Slashdot is stuck in 1991.

    13. Re:Boobs! by Phaid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This whole discussion reminded me of a campaign by the German project
      pinkstinks.de called "Sexy yes, sexism no":

      https://pinkstinks.de/sexy-ode...

      Summary in my words:

      It's fine to show a woman in underwear if you try to sell women's
      underwear (left picture: "Bra 29 EUR").
      It's not ok to show a woman in underwear if you try to sell a chair
      (and the scantily clad woman is just decoration / an object to draw
      attention to the ad) (right picture: "Chair 199 EUR").
      I think that explains the issue of objectification quite well.

      Who the hell are they to tell me what is and is not OK? I'll objectify whatever I want. People like sex, people like sexy things, and rational people have no problem seeing ads that feature attractive people of the opposite gender used to market things to them.

      This entire issue isn't about people getting offended anyway. It's about people pretending to be offended so they can show everyone how upstanding and moral and non-sexist and great they are. It's ridiculous and we all need to stop catering to it.

    14. Re: Boobs! by houghi · · Score: 1

      The nerds thought they where making fun of their male boobs.

      --
      Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
    15. Re: Boobs! by houghi · · Score: 1

      So where would the word boob be offensive? The worst that could happen is that it makes a 12 year old giggle the first time he hears it.

      --
      Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
    16. Re:Boobs! by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      I, for one, am glad the far left is on the job of stamping out jokes and making daily life a little more grey. Remember when the "stop having fun everyone" moral busybodies we all despised were Christians? How things change.

      --
      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    17. Re:Boobs! by zmooc · · Score: 1

      1. It's not about what goes on in the heads of the project people, but about those feeling harassed.
      2. The title says this is about the name of the package so it does not really matter what the package is about.

      --
      0x or or snor perron?!
    18. Re:Boobs! by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      It's not ok to show a woman in underwear if you try to sell a chair (and the scantily clad woman is just decoration / an object to draw attention to the ad)

      Wage the good war, but that's a fight you're not going to win. Using beautiful people to sell things will be here.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    19. Re:Boobs! by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Boob singular means idiot. You generally don't say her boob (singular) was sticking out.

      Well, Amazon is fairly big these days...

    20. Re: Boobs! by stoborrobots · · Score: 1

      All documentation not only must be referred to in a gender non specific manner

      Aha! You're behind the campaign for Info!

    21. Re:Boobs! by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Well,
      one of the first improved man page reader programs was called "woman".

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
    22. Re: Boobs! by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      It's easy enough to fix. Turn off "smart" quotes in the keyboard settings.

    23. Re: Boobs! by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      We rarely agree but after reading that list ("handjoob" was particularly juvenile) I have to agree that the maintainers of this package need to grow up.

    24. Re:Boobs! by Tom · · Score: 2

      It's not ok to show a woman in underwear if you try to sell a chair
      (and the scantily clad woman is just decoration / an object to draw
      attention to the ad)

      But it works. And because it works, you have just created a rule with a strong incentive to work around it. So she will show a bit less skin, but still be sexy. Then you forbid that... at the end, you end up with the Burka because you're scared of women.

      --
      Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
    25. Re:Boobs! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It's not about stopping them using beautiful people... But I would point out that actually the UK has banned using beautiful people in some adverts, specifically those for alcohol. The current rules are that booze adverts have to use average looking people.

      (not that I suppose that, BTW)

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    26. Re:Boobs! by Tom · · Score: 1

      Is there really no middle ground between "don't be a sexist asshat" and "everyone must wear a burka"?

      Not if you try to solve the problem with hard rules.

      We've had this with the definition of "porn" at the level of the highest court, and the best they could come up with was "I'll know it when I see it". The same is true here.

      because walking around naked in public is already illegal in most place

      And I sometimes wonder why, but that's a different discussion. Yes, we live in a society still suffering from abrahemic self-hate and denial of the physical, but where you have rules, you will find that they are soft rules in context and interpreted.

      There are words you shouldn't say on TV, but those are soft rules. Profanity filters in online games are an attempt to turn them into hard rules and they are a spectacular failure, with both false positives and easy circumvention.

      --
      Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
    27. Re:Boobs! by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      They are people exercising their right to free speech. If you don't like it, don't listen.

      Good enough. Right up until we get to the point where they're trying to impose their views on other people....which is what's happening here. And has happened in an ass load of times in the last year as well and the last decade too.

      End it there and you would have been absolutely correct. SWJ-outrage is the most popular form of virtue signalling.

      You don't seem to have understood their sentence. People who are anti-SJW aren't doing this to be moral, they're doing it to ensure that things aren't over-run by little moral authoritarians like yourself. They're not in it for the points, there's no clubs, there's no gigantic groups that you can paint up to show this semi-organized or even organized anti-sjw agenda. This is the part of "normies getting P/O'd at your bullshit" that you don't seem to understand.

      In the rare cases when people actually start pushing back against "SJW outrage" and some type of group forms, the first thing you do is call them harassers, sexists, misogynists, rapists, nazi's and so forth.

      --
      Om, nomnomnom...
    28. Re:Boobs! by Mashiki · · Score: 3, Informative

      Is there really no middle ground between "don't be a sexist asshat" and "everyone must wear a burka"?

      Going by the feminist self defense brigade, defending Islam is great and a burka is 'liberating' and a 'great statement for feminism.' So simply no, there is no middle ground because there seems to be some batshit crazy people who hold substantial positions in various organizations and promote that.

      If not I think we have bigger problems, because walking around naked in public is already illegal in most places and we must already be on that slipper slope. My god, they have already banned erect penises on British TV 60 years ago, it's no wonder it's now a Sharia hell-hole!

      Considering you've got mass child rape gangs, the police looking the other way, "islamic police" beating the piss out of gays in UK cities, and various things like the Trojan Horse Scandal, seems like you're well on your way to becoming a sharia hell hole. Going by your own posts, you don't seem to have any problem with this either.

      --
      Om, nomnomnom...
    29. Re:Boobs! by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      You know what's not "appropriate" here? Acting like a child who's offended at an acronym.

      People need to grow the fuck up already.

      There has never been a more appropriate time to post a Red Dwarf clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    30. Re:Boobs! by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      How is removing something from their repository, a free service that they provide to you because they believe in the principal of doing so, imposing their views on you? You don't like their repo, go somewhere else.

      You mean the people who aren't actually writing repo's, and are enforcing their views on other people? When was the last time you went to the doctors office, and got a cobbler to remove a wart.

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    31. Re:Boobs! by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      Where do you get this bollocks from? Is his name Carl?

      Have you bothered paying attention to what feminists have been spouting for the last ~7 years or so? I guess not. Why don't you go take a look, I'll wait. Can't wait till you get to the feminists protesting a gay pride parade, because it would offend muslims.

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    32. Re:Boobs! by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      That is fascinating.

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    33. Re:Boobs! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      You can always find an idiot calling themselves X to use as an argument against any idea, movement or philosophy. That doesn't make them representative or even the thing they claim to be.

      If you disagree then I'm claiming to be a conservative. Your move.

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    34. Re:Boobs! by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      You can always find an idiot calling themselves X to use as an argument against any idea, movement or philosophy. That doesn't make them representative or even the thing they claim to be.

      When those people are the ones teaching at universities, publishing books, promoting feminist ethos they're not really feminists? If you're agreeing with this, then you're already an anti-feminst and MRA. Your move.

      If you disagree then I'm claiming to be a conservative. Your move.

      It's the left and progressives who have lined up with identity politics, not conservatives. And if you refuse to adhere to what's correct, you're Islamophobic, or racist, or sexist, not conservatives. Is it really that hard to admit that there's something wrong with the current "mainstream" brand of feminism that would be happier supporting people that would subjugate them.

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    35. Re:Boobs! by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      I hope you get help for your mental illness, Mashiki.

      Facts are mental illness. Well that does line up with progressive thinking, after all the first thing the communists of the USSR did was label anyone who wouldn't fall in line as mentally ill.

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    36. Re: Boobs! by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      No, that's Trump who is still upset that people care that the Saudis murdered some journalist.

      That's why the media played on that for weeks on end, but Trump cares? Hey why don't you go look up the guy's "who-who" connections.

      But hey, go ahead and support ripping people's clothes off because you just don't like their religion.

      Feminists defending people who'd rather subjugate them is ripping peoples clothes off. Go on, I'm interested in hearing more about this line of reasoning.

      That's your anti-SJW virtues. Death to Islam! Preach it some more!

      So anti-SJW virtues are western values? Islam has done a pretty good job in the 17 years of preaching death to the unbeliever, I don't think I need to help them with that. Though it might explain why leftists seem to fall in love with it.

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    37. Re: Boobs! by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      You just don't want to admit that your SJW outrage is empty posturing Mashiki, a hollow way to declare your self-important virtues without actually considering substance.

      Seems to me, that you're much happier making assumptions based on what you believe instead of even putting pseudo-anonminimity on the line. Oh to be such a beacon of substance and understanding!

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    38. Re:Boobs! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Mashiki, unless you stop using your sock puppets to down-mod every reply I make to you, I'm not going to engage. Debate or sock puppets, it's up to you.

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  4. Oh God, The Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It hurts.

    And I meant that Debian has an "anti-harassment team" that can remove packages. This is the wrong way to solve _what_ problem?

    1. Re: Oh God, The Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Surely this story is fake and weâ(TM)re being trolled here?

      Or if not, Debian has a full team run by 8-year-olds.

    2. Re: Oh God, The Stupid by Dentist+for+monsters · · Score: 1

      Yup. It's fake. Weboob was pulled, but not because of the name. Sounds like pissy developers are trying to undermine the decision with false news.

    3. Re: Oh God, The Stupid by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Surely this story is fake and weÃ(TM)re being trolled here?

      Considering the absolute garbage being pushed by governments, feminist organizations and other crap into meritocratic fields? We're not being trolled. There are literal retards out there. The same people who demand "50% of xyz jobs be women" while pushing unqualified people to get the job. Who will then go out of their way to screech that the word "boob" causes rape, but at the same time will stand on a street corner and screech "free the boob!"

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    4. Re: Oh God, The Stupid by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Yes, we know there are people out there who think there is a war on Christmas

      Ah, but one doesn't have to think there is a war on Christmas when leftists line up to protest the Sally Ann doing a Christmas donation drive for sick kids in a hospital, now do we.

      and want to self-fund a border wall.

      Sounds good to me, it's sure a better option then "let the world in" and then wonder why women are afraid to go out at night like in Sweden.

      Let's just shut it down!

      Illegal immigration? You bet. Those women and girls being mass raped while fleeing through Mexico would probably love you for that.

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  5. What a bunch of pansies by r_naked · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is just sad how PC the world has become. If you are offended -- go fuck yourself.

    OMG we have some foul language in our source code -- need a PR now!

    OMG the name of a package has the word boob in it -- MUST REMOVE NOW!

    Fucking ridiculous.

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    1. Re:What a bunch of pansies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The problem isn't people going "I'm offended", it's people going "I'm offended and will force you to change your ways". When someone complains about people being offended, they really aren't referring to the former who are merely exercising their right to free speech, but rather are referring to the latter who are attempting to revoke the complainer's right to free speech.

    2. Re:What a bunch of pansies by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      Thank you, AC. You put my thoughts into words.

      Giggling about boobs might be offensive to a certain group of uptight, self-absorbed people that used to be associated with old conservatives, but they are free to ignore it. The rest of us think it is light hearted fun.

      Banning a package is a forceful measure to shut down a community.

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    3. Re:What a bunch of pansies by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      But neither of those things actually happened, did they?

      There have been two attempts to remove swearing recently, one for the Linux kernel and one for JRE. First was completely rejected despite Linux having recently adopted what was supposed to be the worst possible SJW-infested Code of Conduct imaginable, and the JRE one was mostly rejected except for a few small changes.

      In this case the decision was not in any way based on the package name having the word "boob" in it, as you would know if you had bothered to read the actual post on the Debian mailing list. In fact, other packages with "boob" in the name remain because they were not doing the thing that Weboob was doing which got their package removed.

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  6. News from the future by the_skywise · · Score: 4, Funny

    Debian's anti-harassment and sugarland fairy team removed the number 8008. This number is just juvenile and inappropriate in corporate environments. This will not affect the size of objects in anyway as infinity will not be affected and calculators will refuse to allow the number to be punched in.
    "The missing number doesn't really affect the accuracy of the numbers as, at that size, its little more than a rounding error and the slight inconvenience is inconsequential to affecting the feelings of millions of persons and transgender persons who are offended by the term"

    Sometimes guys an an acronym is just that.

    1. Re:News from the future by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      Debian's anti-harassment and sugarland fairy team removed the number 8008. This number is just juvenile and inappropriate in corporate environments. This will not affect the size of objects in anyway as infinity will not be affected and calculators will refuse to allow the number to be punched in.

      Ha! .. I can still get my thrills from viewing 58008 upside down on my calculator. Take that sugarland fairy team!

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    2. Re:News from the future by lsllll · · Score: 1

      Ha! .. I can still get my thrills from viewing 58008 upside down on my calculator. Take that sugarland fairy team!

      Or 55378008 for that matter.

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  7. Harassment? by John+Napkintosh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If anti-harassment is the reason why it was being removed, why was there no mention of who was being harassed and who reported the harassment?

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    1. Re:Harassment? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Okay, so leave now, fag.

      Software is built by some very classy people who are no doubt stable geniuses.

      Digging into that module, it seems to allow you to "participate in a boobathon" and has a way for you to be the "winner"...I have no idea what this is.

    2. Re:Harassment? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Anti-harassment wasn't the reason. That group is there to administer the code of conduct as well as deal with harassment.

      In this case the issue was that the package name didn't just contain "boob" as part of an acronym, the developers had deliberately gone out of their way to include it and then gone out of their way to name sub-mobiles so they could contain the word as well, even though it make absolutely no sense to do so. In fact it was fucking up their naming scheme and there is an open pull request to try to at least fix the binary names so they are somewhat consistent.

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    3. Re:Harassment? by ugen · · Score: 1

      Most likely the a/h team removed it on their own initiative, to finally show that there is a reason for their existence.

      That's the problem with all initiatives, even the best ones - as any entity, their primary purpose becomes self-sustenance.

    4. Re:Harassment? by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Anti-harassment wasn't the reason. That group is there to administer the code of conduct as well as deal with harassment.

      Weren't you just saying that code of conduct, and the witch hunting against developers by CoC's wouldn't happen? Pretty sure you did, not less then 7mo ago. Ah yes, the modern SJW. If you like tits, you're a misogynist. Also if you don't like tits or words with similar meanings, you're a women hater and a misogynist. Yes, brilliant. So offended not only will they go out of their way to change something, but toss the authoritarian hat into the arena and try to force what you're doing to change as well.

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    5. Re:Harassment? by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      You don't see the irony in crying your eyes out about PC'ers? Lol you anti-PC'ers are just as bad, in reverse. You ARE the problem YOU cry about! Nobody has a gun to your head, crybaby faggots.

      No? Never heard of Lindsay Shepard? She's the TA who was a Wilfrid Laurier a couple of years ago and showed a clip of Jordan Peterson to her class as part of contrasting between two points of view, and two professors including her supervisor falsely invented a complaint against in order to force her "into line" with their line of thinking. Not only that, but they threatened her with "human rights" complaints, and threatened to contact the crown and have her criminally charged with inciting hatred.

      Those politically correct people, their supporters, and so on? They held a gun to her head, and went out of their way in an attempt to intimidate her. The only reason that her academic career wasn't fully ruined is that she was smart enough to record it and exposed their intimidation and threats. She's not the first one, she's not the last one. Donglegate, Tim Hunt, Matt Taylor, and the hundreds of others who've had that metaphorical gun to their head for not "not being politically correct" enough exist.

      Oh boy, we haven't even started yet.

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    6. Re:Harassment? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      The only witch hunt going on here is the anti-SJWs demanding that heads roll for this outrage.

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    7. Re: Harassment? by astrofurter · · Score: 1

      Sure, the language is a bit sophomoric. But it appears Mr Bachelier is correct: he created an asshole detector.

      What a shame that the Debian project has been beset by so much censorious, organized assholery.

    8. Re:Harassment? by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      The only witch hunt going on here is the anti-SJWs demanding that heads roll for this outrage.

      Really? Having just skimmed the comments minus AC's, that doesn't look to be true. Looks like there's a bunch of anti-SJW's who are getting tired that assholes are offended over words and demand people bow to their views though. On the other hand, the people in support of this going by various SJW heavy platforms and social media are ALL for doxxing and harassing the developers.

      Then again, one only has to remember that "words are violence" in the land of progressive thought. So I can see where you'd get "demanding heads roll for this outrage" is coming from, not that it doesn't make progressives look like they can't function in a normal society.

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  8. Really? by EllisDees · · Score: 5, Funny

    Please remove all forms of humor from your everyday life. Only pre-approved smiles will be permitted.

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    1. Re:Really? by dhasenan · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty good with humor. I'm not at all amused by "weboob". It's the level of humor of a four-year-old boy announcing that they have a penis, except with sexist connotations.

    2. Re:Really? by scourfish · · Score: 1

      "I'm pretty good with humor, but potty jokes incense me" said no person who was good with jokes ever.

    3. Re: Really? by peppepz · · Score: 1

      So because you didn't find a joke funny, you decided that you could publically insult the authors of a piece of software. Nice way to preach respect.

    4. Re:Really? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Well,
      my GF is Thai.

      She sent me a "jingle bells" movie by a Thai D-Jane. She wears a bra without straps, which are bit to small and compress hear "boobs". She is jiggeling her right boob half assed in the rhythm of the song ... looks totally hilarious.

      In Thailand no one has a problem with a spicy dose of sexy things in life (in Europe neither, even in catholic countries). Now unfortunately she wants me now to buy a bra like that so she can dance for me at home ... sigh :P

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  9. Dry your tears snowflake. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I mean, it's stupid and silly, but don't you see the latent irony in you crying and breathlessly whining about political correctness like this is a big deal? It's not. Dry your tears snowflake.

    1. Re:Dry your tears snowflake. by SCVonSteroids · · Score: 1, Insightful

      We're sacrificing perfectly good/tested functionality because the wording used to code said functionality is offensive to some.
      Yeah, some people blow this out of proportion, but it is what it is. A blatant exercise in power for nothing more than satisfying a few gits. (Oh wait, that's offensive too! There's a popular tool that goes by that name though... what do?)

      You're right though, anyone complaining about this is a snowflake and should go dry their tears. /s
      Pathetic.

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    2. Re:Dry your tears snowflake. by iCEBaLM · · Score: 1

      It is a big deal. This is the first downward degree of a very slippery slope. This sets a precedent that everything must be whitewashed of any potential to offend anyone. The innocuousness of the so called "offense" should actually anger people.

      Let me ask you: what happens when you whitewash the world? Is that the kind of world you want to live in?

    3. Re:Dry your tears snowflake. by Phaid · · Score: 1

      There is no irony here. People whining and pretending to be offended by a silly boob joke is stupid and silly. People reacting to that whining as if it were legitimate, and censoring software developers because of it, is dangerous and wrong. Especially in the context of "free" software, we cannot give political correctness a veto over legitimate (or humorous, or offensive) speech.

    4. Re:Dry your tears snowflake. by iCEBaLM · · Score: 2

      I would rather live in a world where people are free to offend, then a world where everyone is scared to talk at all for fear of offending someone.

  10. TOUCH GREP UNZIP FINGER MOUNT FSCK UMOUNT by FictionPimp · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe we need to ban most of these dirty commands too!

    1. Re:TOUCH GREP UNZIP FINGER MOUNT FSCK UMOUNT by boulat · · Score: 1

      Debian has never been relevant

    2. Re:TOUCH GREP UNZIP FINGER MOUNT FSCK UMOUNT by nanospook · · Score: 1

      Removing those pornographic vowels should do it! TCH GRP NZIP FNGR MNT FSCK XMNT

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    3. Re: TOUCH GREP UNZIP FINGER MOUNT FSCK UMOUNT by reanjr · · Score: 1

      Lulz so hard.

    4. Re:TOUCH GREP UNZIP FINGER MOUNT FSCK UMOUNT by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      I am more of a master/slave guy. Let's re-name all computing history to appease a few idiots

      You're a bit late to the party for that one.

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    5. Re:TOUCH GREP UNZIP FINGER MOUNT FSCK UMOUNT by swillden · · Score: 1

      Debian has never been relevant

      Not sure if this is a troll or just cluelessness.

      In case the former, you win :-)

      In case the latter, Debian is a pretty significant Linux distro in its own right, but if you include all of the distros that are based on Debian, it has a much larger installed base than all non-Debian GNU/Linux distros combined. We have to specify GNU/Linux because without the GNU part, the most popular Linux-based OS -- in fact the most popular operating system, period -- is Android, and the second most popular Linux distribution is ChromeOS.

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    6. Re:TOUCH GREP UNZIP FINGER MOUNT FSCK UMOUNT by Tom · · Score: 1

      One thing at a time... one thing at a time...

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  11. Um No by DarkOx · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Um no "Web-Oh-Oh-Bee" is perfectly fine. The name is only juvenile of you yourself are a child and decide to pronounce it a different way.

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    1. Re:Um No by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      HandJoob and WetBoobs are just people's overactive imaginations choosing to see things that aren't there? Seriously?

    2. Re:Um No by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      Come on neither of those are similar to "WebOOB" in that in both of your examples there is no word joob, dJoob and WetB isn't a word either.

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  12. This article is misinformation. by Dentist+for+monsters · · Score: 1

    Read the team notes. The package was not flagged for removal because of the name.

    1. Re:This article is misinformation. by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Weboob dev team sets off the asshole detector pretty hard.

    2. Re:This article is misinformation. by xryl · · Score: 1

      Exactly! Just have a look to the their website ( http://weboob.org/applications... ) and look at the icons. It's not something you might want on your work's desktop. Anyway, I angry that removing the package is dumb, it should be simply flagged NSFW and that's it.

    3. Re:This article is misinformation. by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Erm, are you a troll or an idiot or do you have a DNS problem?
      There is absolutely nothing wrong with any of the icons on the web site you linked, moron. And most certainly absolutely nothing that involves boobs, tits, genitals or what ever.

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  13. How about... by magusxxx · · Score: 2

    Programming Using Several Scripts Yourself

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  14. Juvenile? by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

    Okay, it's "Weboob", not, "We Love Boobs". This is totally overstretching it with the PC.
    And how non-juvenile do "Google", "Bing", "Yahoo", "Hadoop" and other IT corporations or services sound?
    It's all about the silly juvenile words!

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    1. Re:Juvenile? by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      That said, Web With Out Browser, or WebWob, might be a good alternative.

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    2. Re:Juvenile? by avandesande · · Score: 1

      they should get rid of that 'woody' filth too

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  15. Uhhh, what? by Obfuscant · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Weboob is objectionable? That's funny. One of the large breast cancer charities has a slogan along the lines of "we (heart) boobies". When they are the beneficiaries of one of the local college team's focus at games, they can find students to paint their chests with the letters "b", "o", "i", "e" and "s" (in sufficient quantities of each to spell the objectionable word. Granted, the students are idiots to begin with, but they're useful idiots for the charity).

    If it isn't objectionable when it actually refers to mammary glands on well endowed non- or pre-mastectomy patients, then it isn't objectionable when it refers to the web software.

    This is the same kind of stupidity that plagues things like the closed captioning on one specific TV channel -- MeTV -- for example. Watch with CC turned on and you'll see the actors making "xxxxtails", or playing badminton with "shuttlexxxxs". Or our lovely local newspaper with a blog that won't allow anyone to refer directly to a city councilor whose first name is "Richard" but always goes by his nickname.

    Sheesh. People think the world hates us because we "meddle". Maybe it's because we make such big stupid stinks over such ridiculous first-world problems.

    1. Re:Uhhh, what? by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 4, Insightful

      One of the large breast cancer charities has a slogan along the lines of "we (heart) boobies".

      Well, you see, breast cancer is one of the approved causes. When you're one of the approved causes, you can't be offensive. You're just "refreshingly transgressive."

    2. Re:Uhhh, what? by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      Weboob is objectionable? That's funny. One of the large breast cancer charities has a slogan along the lines of "we (heart) boobies". {...}

      If it isn't objectionable when it actually refers to mammary glands on well endowed non- or pre-mastectomy patients, then it isn't objectionable when it refers to the web software.

      Er, really? "If it isn't objectionable in one context, then it automatically isn't objectionable in a completely different context"?

      Are you sure?

    3. Re:Uhhh, what? by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      Er, really? "If it isn't objectionable in one context, then it automatically isn't objectionable in a completely different context"? Are you sure?

      If it isn't objectionable as a word in a context where it is a direct reference to a female erogenous zone, then it isn't objectionable when it isn't the word in a reference to something completely unrelated to female erogenous zones. Yes, I am sure.

      I didn't say it was "automatically" not objectionable in all other contexts, I was pretty specific about the context. Don't be a boob and misquote or deliberately misinterpret me.

      I bet you don't live in Scunthorpe, England, do you?

    4. Re:Uhhh, what? by SCVonSteroids · · Score: 1

      Everybody meddles now. So they needed something new.

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    5. Re:Uhhh, what? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      The basic principal at work here is that it's fine to use boobs if they are relevant to your product. Breast cancer charities, bras, that kind of thing, fine, go ahead. Even sexy poses for your push-up bra is fine, because it's designed to enhance sex appeal.

      But if you are selling a chair and you decide to drape some boobs over it for your advert, that's just exploiting women's bodies to sell your presumably shit product.

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    6. Re:Uhhh, what? by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      The basic principal at work here is that it's fine to use boobs if they are relevant to your product.

      Perhaps you missed the fine distinction that the name of the package isn't using the word "boob" at all, not even as a root? It's like getting your knickers in a twist because people live in a town called "Scunthorpe" or talk about "cocktails".

      that's just exploiting women's bodies to sell your presumably shit product.

      Yeah, I'm sure there are tens of thousands of installations of the free software called "weboob" just because it has the string "boob" in the name. Those bastards! They're selling FOSS by using references to breasts!

      I hope you never do a search for packages with the string "ass" or "cock" in them.

    7. Re:Uhhh, what? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Don't be a boob and misquote or deliberately misinterpret me.

      I bet you don't live in Scunthorpe, England, do you?
      Kudos: I spilled my beer, luckily not over the keyboard ...

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  16. First of was systemd by fluffynuts · · Score: 1

    Now this shit. What's next? No audio without a flaky, unnecessary daemon?

  17. RIP Debian. by aliquis · · Score: 1

    Can't use something silly enough to do such stupid shit.

    It's weird how a tiny vocal minority can get through stupid shit like this.

    1. Re:RIP Debian. by gweihir · · Score: 1

      That tiny minority finds they can screw everything up without any opposition.

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    2. Re:RIP Debian. by xryl · · Score: 1

      http://weboob.org/modules 80% of the modules' icons you'll find on your desktop after installation have sexual connotations. It should not be removed, but at least it should be flagged NSFW.

  18. Re: Wut? by aliquis · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    An obscure package like is among 30 000 is why there's not 50% women on IT!

    Let alone 100% transexuals who don't accept their sex organ as theirs.

  19. This team has already jumped the shark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If anti-harassment is the reason why it was being removed, why was there no mention of who was being harassed and who reported the harassment?

    This. I'm normally in favor of going after assholes who abuse and intimidate others. The extreme right would probably label me an SJW for not approving of sexual harassment, or being perfectly OK with Les Moonves being thrown out on his ass without his $120M golden parachute.

    But this is ridiculous, and this is why, to paraphrase Bill Maher, "nobody likes you." It's not enough to be enlightened enough to go after dicks, you've got to learn how to not be one yourself. This smacks of the kind of humorless overzealousness that leadds to things like "woody" being banned because these fools can't tell if you're referring to an animated child's toy from a Pixar movie, or an erection, and since it could, possibly, be the latter, better ban it!

    Remember the boob tube? It didn't refer to women's breast, it referred to the "boobs" (idiots) who watched it. But I bet that will set the fools off foaming at the mouth, and I say that as one who by and large SUPPORTS anti-harrassment policies.

    1. Re:This team has already jumped the shark by Shotgun · · Score: 2

      The extreme right would probably label me an SJW for not approving of sexual harassment, or being perfectly OK with Les Moonves being thrown out on his ass without his $120M golden parachute.

      Possibly off topic, but most of the really hard right people I know thinks he should have his ass kicked to within an inch of his life on the way out. I don't know where the idea that right wingers support sexual harassment, but that smear campaign makes literally NO sense. Right wingers do support the right to a trial by jury, the right to confront your accusers and that sort of thing, so maybe the #metoo move sprung off of that to conflate "a quick trial and a fair hanging" with "let them go free".

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  20. Re:So capitalize OOB and say Oh Oh Bee. by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

    Problem solved - GET BACK TO WORK you neckbearded shirkslags.

    Like that stopped people calling the XBoxOne the "X-Bone" or stopped people calling Experts Exchange "Expert Sexchange".

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    "That's the way to do it" - Punch
  21. Re:Wut? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm at work. I don't know if I should google it. WTF does 'weboob' mean? Why should I be offended by it?

    Weboob is offensive to the developers who worked on the project by suggesting that all male developers all have man-boobs.

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    "That's the way to do it" - Punch
  22. FFS, read before writing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If anybody had read the Anti-Harassment team recommendation, you would not be posting this click-bait troll-calling piece.

    In particular, you should read this: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=907199#47

    Excerpt:

    "We believe the next release should not contain the package in question
    in its current state; our recommendation would be to either work with
    upstream on correcting these issues, forking and/or patching it, or just
    removing the package."

    The removal was only requested because upstream refused to do any changes and because nobody in Debian did the needed work.

  23. Now I need a new Distro by gweihir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The enemy has clearly managed to get even deeper into Debian.

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    1. Re:Now I need a new Distro by avandesande · · Score: 5, Insightful

      the problem with having a 'team' dedicated to this stuff is they have to find something to do so they make work for themselves

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    2. Re:Now I need a new Distro by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Abandoning Debian over systemd I can understand, that's a technical issue and there is a reasonable argument to be made against it. I can understand not using non-free software on principal too.

      But abandoning Debian over this trivial thing... What are you worried about, exactly? Getting cooties from SJW-infected software?

      Also how come you are only just noticing? Debian has had this code of conduct for years and this isn't the first time it has been used.

      In another thread you would be complaining about people boycotting stuff on principal and telling them to be more tolerant and just ignore stuff they don't like.

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      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    3. Re: Now I need a new Distro by astrofurter · · Score: 1

      When humor is crushed with an iron boot, reasonable people start to worry about tyranny. Believe it or not, most Free Software enthusiasts prefer.... wait for it... freedom.

      You nazis have a lot of corporate money behind you - and everything that big money can buy, like PR flacks, lawyers, courts, journalists, and paid "activists". What you don't have is support of the People.

      No one likes you nazi assholes. No one wants to live in your dystopian neo-puritanical police state. You are cultural imperialists, invading communities by force and stealing that which you did not build.

      Anti-imperialist sentiment is growing. There are Resistance cells everywhere. You social just-us nazis better shine up your jackboots and get ready. This kind of gratuitous oppression will eventually lead to a general uprising.

    4. Re:Now I need a new Distro by Tom · · Score: 1

      This is the core problem.

      As soon as it is someones job/duty/responsibility, only a tiny, tiny fraction of them has the maturity to one day stand up and say "job is done, everything that needed to be fixed has been fixed, please fire me".

      There's also an echo-chamber problem. When you deal with subject X the whole day, then things that are only remotely related appear to you to be more closely related than they are to outsiders.

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    5. Re:Now I need a new Distro by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Very much so. They would not want to lose their importance and job, would they? As soon as you have an inquisition, it will start to torture and kill people. Expecting anything else is deeply naive.

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      Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
  24. Re:Don't for GIT and GIMP by FictionPimp · · Score: 1

    Don't even get me started on 'man fsck'

  25. The oo construct by DrTJ · · Score: 1

    The double-o construct in this short follows a long engineering tradition of shortening "out of" or "outside of" as "oo".
    For example, in safety engineering, a system element which defines safety requirements on the environment in which it is to be integrated is referred to a "Safety element out of context", or "SEooC". Another example is the short hands for the various redundancy design patterns, like "two out of three", or "three out of five", which are usually referred to "2oo3" and "3oo5".

    So a piece of software named "Web outside of browsers" could very well be spelled out "weboob" or "woob" without there being any trace of immature or malign intent.

    As usual, this tells us more about the minds and anxiety of the anti-harassment team, than the authors of this package.

    1. Re:The oo construct by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      The double-o construct in this short follows a long engineering tradition of shortening "out of" or "outside of" as "oo".

      Or "object oriented", as in "programming". God, I hope there is never an OOP package that has a 'p' in the wrong place.

      This is why we can't have nice things like Neural Information Processing Systems. Gutter brains like Elon Musk...

  26. The anti-harassment team pulls double duty by rsilvergun · · Score: 2, Interesting

    to watch for dubious package names, that's all. It's not nothing to do with harassment, and if there wasn't a growing anti-SJW community riding a massive overreaction to an overreaction for YouTube videos and Patreon donations (with a healthy dose of money from right wing think tanks) we wouldn't have even noticed.

    Keep calm and Debian on. This kind of stuff happens. Middle managers get sticks up their but over this sort of thing. If you've got to blame somebody blame them.

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    1. Re:The anti-harassment team pulls double duty by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      if there wasn't a growing anti-SJW community riding a massive overreaction to an overreaction for YouTube videos and Patreon donations (with a healthy dose of money from right wing think tanks) we wouldn't have even noticed.

      What Patreon donations?

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    2. Re:The anti-harassment team pulls double duty by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

      Patreon's a website where you can send money to people who make content of one kind or another. You're a "Patron of the arts" is how it's sold.

      Youtube used to pay good money for adverts, but there was an advertiser scare when some of the major brand's ads (Coke was the big one) were being showed before neo-Nazi videos. The advertisers pulled their ads in mass for about 90 days, but then noticed that being off Youtube for 90 days didn't effect their sales in the slightest, so a lot of them never came back (or only do the occasional "branding" campaign). This is referred to as the Adpocalypse in Youtube land.

      Anyway to make a living a lot of the big Youtuber's started asking for donations via Patreon. It's more popular than sending a one time donation because it is typically a recurring charge. Jordon Peterson, for example, makes about $80,000/mo/US last we knew (he's sense hid his monthly take).

      Anyway there's a minor brew-ha-ha going on in the Youtube "skeptic" community. A lot of folks built channels and followings on videos debunking religion, new age medicine and pseudo science. When the Adpocalypse hit they saw their revenue plummet. Some of them made good on Pateron, but what really started getting the donations coming in was dropping the skeptic stuff and going after SJWs. There aren't a lot of folks who'll pitch you $5-$10/mo for videos debunking Homeopathy, but there are apparently a ton of them that'll pitch in if you're go after blue haired college girls who say dumb things about the patriarchy. Go figure.

      There's also money to be made from the right wing think tanks. Nobody, and I mean nobody, likes SJWs. Even other SJWs don't like SJWs. Folks hate the extreme political correctness that's associated with SJWs just like regular folks are weirded out by religious nut-jobs (and for the same reasons). The right wing think tanks know this and they're using it as a chink in the left wing's armor. The goal is to convince folks that everyone on the left is one of those nut case feminazi's who won't shut up about how oppressed women are. It's a tactic that seems to work too. It shuts down arguments about substantive policy (like discussing Medicare for All, ending the 7 or 8 wars we're in, infrastructure spending, wealth inequity and stagnant wages, basically anything economic). Those think tanks feed into the anti-SJW crowd indirectly (by giving them useful talking points) and sometimes directly (by giving them money or flying them out to conventions to speak).

      To be honest I think that racism is gradually going away and with it the "Southern Strategy" (e.g. using race to keep folks in the South voting for right wing policies that negatively impact them). Anti-SJWism is Southern Strategy 2.0. It's the new enemy to focus your anger on so you won't notice you're being robbed blind.

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    3. Re:The anti-harassment team pulls double duty by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      The advertisers pulled their ads in mass for about 90 days, but then noticed that being off Youtube for 90 days didn't effect their sales in the slightest, so a lot of them never came back (or only do the occasional "branding" campaign). This is referred to as the Adpocalypse in Youtube land.

      Did that really happen? If so, that makes me all warm and happy inside.

      . Nobody, and I mean nobody, likes SJWs. Even other SJWs don't like SJWs. Folks hate the extreme political correctness that's associated with SJWs just like regular folks are weirded out by religious nut-jobs (and for the same reasons).

      How exactly does one find SJWs? I tried looking for a website where they hang out, but I couldn't find anything. Admittedly, I didn't try very hard.

      To be honest I think that racism is gradually going away and with it the "Southern Strategy" (e.g. using race to keep folks in the South voting for right wing policies that negatively impact them). Anti-SJWism is Southern Strategy 2.0. It's the new enemy to focus your anger on so you won't notice you're being robbed blind.

      That seems reasonable. Anything that makes people emotional can be used to make them vote irrationally for you.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    4. Re:The anti-harassment team pulls double duty by arth1 · · Score: 1

      How exactly does one find SJWs? I tried looking for a website where they hang out, but I couldn't find anything. Admittedly, I didn't try very hard.

      You don't find them; they find you.

      The natural size of a clique of SJWs is one. Like magnetic poles of the same polarity, they repel each other. They seek out people to righteously smite, while avoiding those they claim to act on behalf of, lest they tell them they weren't really offended.

  27. Re:No. You are juvenile. by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    Does the name Seahorse offend you? It will after you accidentally save credentials you don't want saved in Gnome/MATE desktop and then have to figure out which program handles them.

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    "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
  28. Goodbye Debian by Dog-Cow · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've been running Debian on a hosted virtual machine for the past 15 years or so. I guess it's time to find a new distribution. I don't use Weboob, but I'm not going to support an organization that has given in to terrorists.

    1. Re:Goodbye Debian by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Remind me again what acts of terror the Debian anti-harassment group has committed?

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      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    2. Re:Goodbye Debian by ArchieBunker · · Score: 2

      Funny that this is what puts you over the edge and not technically inferior ideas like systemd.

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    3. Re:Goodbye Debian by rahvin112 · · Score: 1

      You must have a different definition of terrorist than the rest of the world.

    4. Re:Goodbye Debian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Google the term "figure of speech". You will find it enlightening.

  29. There are only so many commands by reanjr · · Score: 1

    Commands are in a global namespace and should be kept short, with minimal non-alpha characters for usability. There simply aren't that many options. This decision is fucking stupid.

  30. What about freedict - Debian's Dictionary DB by turp182 · · Score: 1

    Sounds worse the Weboob in my opinion...

    https://wiki.debian.org/freedi...

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  31. All such efforts by Revek · · Score: 2

    Will eventually go to far and make themselves in to a perfect copy of what they are there to prevent.

    1. Re:All such efforts by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      Already there.

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      Aah, change is good. -- Rafiki
      Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
  32. Yes, it is juvenile. by someara · · Score: 5, Funny

    From http://weboob.org/applications...

    Textual applications, both command-line and REPL.

    Boobank - List your bank accounts balances, their expenses, transfer money, etc.
    Boobcoming - List events, fill your calendar.
    Boobill - List your subscriptions, view and download the bill details.
    Booblyrics - Get lyrics of songs.
    Boobmsg - Read and post public and private messages.
    Boobooks - List your books rented and get your booking history.
    Boobsize - Display various gauges status.
    Boobtracker - View, edit and create issues on bugtrackers.
    Cineoob - Search movies, persons, torrents, subtitles, and get info about them.
    Comparoob - Compare prices of products.
    Cookboob - Search recipes, find one, and cook.
    Flatboob - Search for housings to buy or rent.
    Galleroob - Find and download web image galleries.
    Geolooc - Geolocalize IP addresses.
    Handjoob - Search for a job.
    Havedate - Interact with dating websites, and get popular.
    Parceloob - Parcel tracking.
    Pastoob - Submit and get text (source code, backtraces) to pastebin-like websites.
    Radioob - Search for radios, and get direct stream URLs and current playing songs.
    Shopoob - Obtain details and status of e-commerce orders.
    Suboob - Find and download subtitles.
    Translaboob - Translation functions.
    Traveloob - View public transportation timetables.
    Videoob - Search for videos, get their direct URLs, download them or play them.
    WebContentEdit - Manage and edit content on supported collaborative websites like wikis.
    weboob-config - Show, install, update and configure backends.
    Weboorrents - Search for torrents and download the .torrent files.
    Wetboobs - Display current weather and to see forecasts.

    1. Re:Yes, it is juvenile. by bgrahambo · · Score: 1

      Ok, it's juvenile. But it's also kind of impressive how many different categories of webpages it can do specialized scraping for.

    2. Re:Yes, it is juvenile. by gravewax · · Score: 1

      Yep and kinda a shame as the juvenile nature of the community makes it unusable in many an organisation or government body.

  33. If I was going to be triggered by bobstreo · · Score: 2

    systemD would be what would set me off.

    Anything that ends in a D should be immediately removed from all debian distros,

    1. Re:If I was going to be triggered by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Well,
      my first employer at the university had the initials D.B. so obviously his email address was db@{institute}.uka.de
      I never really looked at the db part ... but one of my friends pointed out that this guy perhaps has a "sex problem" because of the look of the db ... my email address was ash@{institute}.uka.de ... but I soon had a more permanent one as I worked for several departments.
      The guy in question indeed had such a name, so who was juveniel? Well, we were young at that time ... but I never saw the "picture".

      --
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  34. Wait until someone finds... by JBMcB · · Score: 1
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  35. Git's days are numbered. by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 2

    Git has its own meaning in UK English.

    1. Re:Git's days are numbered. by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      and knob.

      As an American I'd argue that UK English is a minor dialect that we can safely ignore. Commonwealth English is more prominent and essentially the same as UK English with the most speakers in India, Nigeria, and UK. If we only count those who speak Commonwealth English as a first language then I believe the UK has the most speakers. Jamaica wins as a percentage of Commonwealth English as a first language (beating UK and Ireland).

      Thank you for listening to my ridiculous reductionist rhetoric.

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      “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
  36. Cancer by nightfire-unique · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've been a debian user, supporter and developer for over 20 years.

    I'm the first one to shut down losery assholes when they disrespect others, regardless of gender, ethnicity, or any other immutable trait. Further, I absolutely get that women, in particular, face endless bullshit from loser guys who just can't behave.

    But the political correctness thing in general (and this in particular) is like cancer. Once it starts, it spreads, until eventually it kills the host.

    Remember, folks: offense is taken, not given.

    --
    A government is a body of people notably ungoverned - AC
    1. Re:Cancer by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      I'm the first one to shut down losery assholes when they disrespect others, regardless of gender, ethnicity, or any other immutable trait. Further, I absolutely get that women, in particular, face endless bullshit from loser guys who just can't behave.

      But the political correctness thing in general (and this in particular) is like cancer. Once it starts, it spreads, until eventually it kills the host.

      If you don't grasp that these two statements are mutually incompatible, then it proves your first claim to be utterly false - because this is exactly the kind of behavior you claim to be the "first to shut down", and it proves that you don't "get" what you claim to.

    2. Re:Cancer by nightfire-unique · · Score: 1

      If you don't grasp that these two statements are mutually incompatible, then it proves your first claim to be utterly false - because this is exactly the kind of behavior you claim to be the "first to shut down", and it proves that you don't "get" what you claim to.

      I get where you're coming from, but there's a world of difference between sexual harassment, discrimination, violence and inequity, and package naming with sexual inuendos.

      We can both be kind and fair to others, and encourage others to grow a thick skin.

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      A government is a body of people notably ungoverned - AC
  37. Scunthorpe by bradley13 · · Score: 1

    We all know about the town of Scunthorpe. I suppose that talking about Dickeybirds is right out? Be sure you don't mishit any balls. And British bird watchers are eagerly awaiting the day that the Great Tit becomes extinct, so they don't have to talk about it any longer.

    More seriously, if Debian is removing Weboob, then they also need to remove all of the following packages: Liboobs, Titanion and TitanTools. If they do not, inquiring minds want to know why...

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  38. Why only go half way? by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's about time we get Linux politically correct.

    "man" pages are a relic of toxic masculinity and the superiority complex of the patriarchy and are now "person" pages.
    The "yes" command is considered reaffirming the male belief that the only applicable answer a woman could ever give is actually yes and it will now be complemented by a "no" command. Ignoring this results in a crash of the system, this is not a bug but a feature of the system protecting itself from being overpowered by its (usually male) user.
    Likewise, commands are no longer allowed to accept --force parameters.
    "mail" shows gender bias and will for now be symlinked to "femail" until a gender neutral replacement can be established.
    You are no longer allowed to "touch" files without proper permission.
    "more" is no longer available as a relic of the consumer-capitalist ideals of more being always better, the use of "less" is now enforced for all applications.
    The environmentally problematic Latex is replaced by the biodegradable Kleenex.

    shell commands
    "kill" is no longer appropriate and has been replace with the much more acceptable "euthanize". Programs have to agree to being euthanized before their termination.
    "abort()" is now "choice()"
    "history" has been rewritten. It's now "herstory".

    terminology and phrases
    Terminals are no longer considered "dumb" or "smart". All are equally valuable.
    The word "Daemons" is considered pejorative in some religions, we now speak of "spiritual guides".
    X-Window system is now the NC-17 Window System.

    I dare not continue. Some idiot will probably take this serious and do it...

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    1. Re:Why only go half way? by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      you forgot all the master/slaves uses which must be changed to equal/equal

    2. Re:Why only go half way? by syzler · · Score: 1

      You are no longer allowed to "touch" files without proper permission. .

      To be fair, you already need to have permission to "touch" a file. Granted you could argue whether it is the file or the filesystem which grants you permission to touch the file. So to be politically correct you need the file's affirmative consent to either "look" at the file or to "touch" the file, otherwise the system's CoC "spiritual guide" ("cocd", sorry I meant "cocsg") may bring you before an extrajudicial tribunal for misconduct and "euthanize" your shell.

    3. Re:Why only go half way? by CODiNE · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the GIMP.

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    4. Re:Why only go half way? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's about time we get Linux politically correct.

      "man" pages are a relic of toxic masculinity and the superiority complex of the patriarchy and are now "person" pages. [...]

      In my neck of the woods, they used to have manhole covers. Then, they began referring to them as personhole covers. Then, the SJWs infiltrated the local city government, and now they're referred to as entityhole covers.

    5. Re:Why only go half way? by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      Terminals are no longer considered "dumb" or "smart". All are equally valuable.

      Relational math operators such as < and > are no longer allowed, because all numbers are equally valuable.

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    6. Re:Why only go half way? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      "history" has been rewritten. It's now "herstory".
      OMG! I spilled my beer again!! This time on the screen of my laptop, asshole!

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    7. Re:Why only go half way? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      If it was American beer: You're welcome.
      If it wasn't: I'm deeply sorry.

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    8. Re:Why only go half way? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Na, it was not american :D
      I'm in Thailand at the moment and I like their local brand: Chang!

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      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
  39. Managers are killjoys by Volatile_Memory · · Score: 1

    I was once given a talking-to for creating a web-based system for tracking customer problems and calling it:
    Ticket
    Initiation and
    Tracking
    System.

    It was totally worth it.

    --

    /**
    I have a "Zero Policy" tolerance.
    */

  40. Links by gQuigs · · Score: 2
    1. Re:Links by Frederic54 · · Score: 1

      All this thing is completely retarted!?!

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      "Science will win because it works." - Stephen Hawking
  41. waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    debian wasting resource on BS, saving no one and pissing others off

  42. Re:No. You are juvenile. by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The name is not juvenile. The people reading it and giggling are juvenile. It's like the stupid joke in Austin Powers over the Asian name Fuk.

    People need to learn to respond more professionally to things their own juvenile personality deems offensive.

    Apparently it goes beyond the name and other parts of it include juvenile humor. It's something the developers will regret later. I know I'm kinda embarrassed nowadays about all the tables, columns and functions I've used "Ass" as short hand for words like "Assignment", "Association" etc,etc. I have a "Request Ass" table out there in one database and whereas it made me laugh 7 years ago- now it makes me cringe.

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    "That's the way to do it" - Punch
  43. WebOOB? by Y2K+is+bogus · · Score: 1

    Oops, forgot they neutered all the capital letters and can't use case to provide further discernment....

  44. Knowledge of English might help. by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

    The word "boob" isn't a verb, so the word sequence "We Boob" makes zero sense. This is a perfect example of why these idiots should be not just ignored, but actively shun. Nobody in their right mind sees "weboob" and takes offense, and it is a sad day when they didn't simply immediately reply to the complaintant that they sound stupid making such a ridiculous complaint. Next up .... OMFG Firefox ... That's animal cruelty!

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    1. Re:Knowledge of English might help. by aybiss · · Score: 1

      Are you telling us you've never boobed before? Man, you don't know what you're missing!

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      It's OK Bender, there's no such thing as 2.
  45. Re:No. You are juvenile. by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2

    Well, if you set up a committee to find offensive stuff, they will find it. Guaranteed. Even if they - as in this case - have to dig exceedingly deep.

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  46. Ridiculous by IHTFISP · · Score: 1

    Blue-footed booby: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    “The name booby comes from the Spanish word bobo ("stupid", "foolish", or "clown") because the blue-footed booby is, like other seabirds, clumsy on land.[3] They are also regarded as foolish for their apparent fearlessness of humans.[2]”

    This is also where we get the nickname “boob tube” for television (a.k.a. “idiot box”).

    Any would-be objection based on ignorant, juvenile misreadings of this term is itself stupid, foolish & clownish.

    Enough with the P.C. B.S.! Time to consider boycotting Debian for their junior high school level of immature oversensitivity. Sheesh!

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  47. some sanity? by quantic_oscillation7 · · Score: 1

    [Re: Should the weboob package stay in Debian?](https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2018/07/msg00336.html)

    >So apart from objectification of women, but without instrumentalization or degrading message, I was not able to find serious consequences. As much as I would prefer things to be different (I already told upstream in the past) I don't feel I have any right or special wisdom allowing me to dictate people to act and think differently. Banning content because it displease me and make people uncomfortable while no direct harm has been found is unlikely to have a positive effect. **Consequently unless harmful content I'm not aware of is discovered in this package I am not going to remove it from the archive.** I would consider adding a neutral warning message in the package description though, so people can individually decide for themselves if this is acceptable from their own point of view.-- Marc Dequènes

  48. There's more by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    What about liboobs?
    # apt-cache search boob
    liboobs-1-5 - GObject based interface to system-tools-backends - shared library

    There's also git
    git /t/
    noun INFORMALBRITISH
    noun: git; plural noun: gits
    an unpleasant or contemptible person.

    1. Re:There's more by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      git: an unpleasant or contemptible person.
      Seems like Linus had a sense of humour or self irony and named the tool after himself.

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  49. Re: No. You are juvenile. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You must absolutely loathe your second name by now.

  50. X11 internals... by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1

    With fear of unleashing a deluge of PC obsession, the X11 code base has questionable naming of subsystems, dix, privates, etc. Uh-oh, here it comes.

  51. Re:Wut? by Calydor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It is right there in the summary: WEB Out Of Browser. WEBOOB.

    Is being at work the reason you can't read the summary, either?

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  52. Re:No. You are juvenile. by Calydor · · Score: 2

    Show me six lines by the most loyal of men, and in them I shall find reason to hang him.

    Paraphrased from some very eloquent guy.

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  53. Looks like the SJWs are filling in nicely by Jarwulf · · Score: 1

    for the Puritans of yesteryear. The more things change I guess.

  54. Re:Faggot Soybois by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

    I'm sure all three people who use that mess of a package find it hilarious.

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  55. Debian's Anti-Harassment Team is removing itself by guestapoo · · Score: 1

    In other news, Debian's Anti-Harassment Team had to remove itself over its name, which contains an 'ASS' in it.

  56. To be renamed to... by iTrawl · · Score: 1

    qooq3M

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  57. Re:No. You are juvenile. by aitikin · · Score: 1

    I believe it was Gnome Image Manipulation Program, though I don't know if that was the original name or a backronym.

    Close, General Image Manipulation Program per the original readme, later GNU Image Manipulation Program.

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  58. meanwhile... by visionlink · · Score: 1

    over at brainfuck HQ...

  59. well fuck debian, then by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

    another reason to hate on them: they adopted systemd and ruined linux since so many ride on debian, as the foundation for their distro.

    pure bullshit.

    grow a pair, guys.

    (*reported*) ;)

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  60. Re:The PC-Police just needs to die... by psergiu · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hmm...

    As i Debian user i do feel offended by this word ... "systemd"

    Better notify the anti-harassment team they have one more package to forever purge ...

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  61. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

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  62. Anti-harrassment becomes harassers? by redelm · · Score: 1

    Look, the name may or may not be juvenile. The idea is _not_. I've done much the same for years, using textmode `links` as my primary browser, and building shell scripts to do RSS via `wget` and `diff`.

  63. Re:No. You are juvenile. by dargaud · · Score: 1

    So, hmmm, is Oracle juvenile with its performance analysis tool, aka perfanal ?!?

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  64. convertlit.com by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1

    convertlit.com has a program to convert Microsoft Reader format books into other formats.

    The name of the executable is.... clit.

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  65. In the name of tech? by Xnet+Project · · Score: 1

    We read this and often wonder why more energy is spent on re-classifying naming conventions to appease emotional correctness rather than putting that focus to more feasible use to solving actual problems, and discovering new technological developments to push to better efficacy as a whole.

    The fine lines between common sense and social insecurities have most recently become blurred to where the slightest non-acceptance of a term that doesn't fit within an individual, or groups pronoun tolerance has become a center focus of controversy more so to a degree that talk is becoming more important than tech.

    One would ask.. have we as society become so enamored in over appropriation of proper language usage to such a degree that it could be more inclined to cause social disarray rather than a problem-solving change for a positive impact to make humanity feel better?

  66. Re-release as ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    Webtit. Web Totally Inane Terminology.

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  67. LibCACA will be next by williamyf · · Score: 1

    mark my words

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  68. Re:No. You are juvenile. by skrot · · Score: 1

    Just because you've changed your opinion doesn't necessarily mean that you're correct this time around.

  69. Re:The PC-Police just needs to die... by Tupper · · Score: 1

    Don't gripe, just switch. Devuan is your friend.

  70. libass by voights · · Score: 1

    Please, nobody tell them about libass!

  71. Ask them for suggestions by MrKaos · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Geez, now we're having to police acroyms, because someone might read something into one and be snowflake offended?

    It's a way of getting people to waste their time and energy trying to come up with other options that don't offend them. The answer with people like this is to put it back on them. If you don't like the acronym "Weboob" come up with one that doesn't offend you and still describes what the project does. Their goal is to frustrate you until you finally tell them to where to go, at which point they can turn around and say you're unwilling to co-operate.

    Have no doubt requests like this are a sign of mental illness in the same way Rorschach tests are used to identify anti-social people who only see sexual images in the random patterns. Instead their, quite abused, minds see only sexual connotations in the acronyms in an attempt to be morally superior to those who created the acronym.

    The mistake is to allow oneself to be drawn into expending mental energy on their behalf. Simply accept their criticism and ask them to come back with a minimum of five suggestions for you to choose from as an alternative name. Chances are they won't come back, however if they do then simply pick the name you prefer and move on. Under no circumstances should they be engaged in a way that causes you to waste time thinking on their behalf. That is allowing yourself to succumb to their form of psychological abuse.

    Feeding into this mentality by attempting to come up with an acronym that won't offend someone who wants to be offended is enabling the behavior and, quite frankly, is as offensive as the original request because it validates and propagates the abuse.

    This is what narcissism looks like, it's a loser's mentality. Don't feed it.

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    1. Re:Ask them for suggestions by Tom · · Score: 2

      Under no circumstances should they be engaged in a way that causes you to waste time thinking on their behalf. That is allowing yourself to succumb to their form of psychological abuse.

      They will also frustrate you more by simply refusing every alternative you offer until you snap. Then they use that to a) claim that it proves they were right, b) attack your character and c) feel themselves superior to you.

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    2. Re:Ask them for suggestions by Skubman · · Score: 2

      Literally what every boss I've ever had and every time I've been a boss: Don't bring me a problem without possible solutions. Anybody can identify a problem, fewer can solve it.

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    3. Re:Ask them for suggestions by MrKaos · · Score: 2

      Under no circumstances should they be engaged in a way that causes you to waste time thinking on their behalf. That is allowing yourself to succumb to their form of psychological abuse.

      They will also frustrate you more by simply refusing every alternative you offer until you snap. Then they use that to a) claim that it proves they were right, b) attack your character and c) feel themselves superior to you.

      It would seem we have encountered similar circumstances.

      This is wise advise because those people try to trap capable people's intellect with double bind scenarios. This is because their mental illness traps them into low levels of problem solving and they're only able to communicate emotionally. Their traps are designed to force capable people into experiencing their reality and suffer the emotions they, themselves, suffer.

      Thank you for mentioning what I neglected to add.

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    4. Re:Ask them for suggestions by Tom · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's a really sad situation, really. These people desperately need help, but they would refuse any help offered, and turn it around along the lines of "don't be patronizing to me!" or - a new favorite - a gross misuse of the word "mansplaining".

      Sometimes, you just want to have a good friend who is a shrink and wordlessly leave his business card.

      What saddens me the most, however, is how this constant barrage of oversensitive bullshit helps to bury real issues. I regularily say this in discussions about "rape culture" - when you start to call people looking at you the wrong way "rape", then you discredit and diminish the term that should be reserved for a serious an traumatizing crime.

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    5. Re:Ask them for suggestions by MrKaos · · Score: 2

      Sometimes, you just want to have a good friend who is a shrink and wordlessly leave his business card.

      If they recognize their emotional issues as a problem they have to deal with. They seem to have a skill for manipulating people and they can do a lot of damage to an organization with these kinds of stunts. The only way I've been able to deal with those people is to deal with my own emotional issues so that I wouldn't respond to manipulation easily and become one of them.

      After that they simply come across as a teenager with an adult's body. It's pretty ugly.

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  72. likely inappropriate? by mveloso · · Score: 1

    It's inappropriate for everyone except those at the top, right?

  73. When you're triggering right wingers for a living by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    it's not too hard, but you do get some crazy bullshit from folks who do 3-5 anti-SJW videos a week. There's a guy named "Cult of Dusty" on Youtube who calls that phenomenon "peak blue haired college girl" where there's not enough dumb blue haired college girls saying dumb shit on camera to feed the machine so you get crap like a gag story about Rodolph the Red Nose Reindeer being about social justice being picked up by the anti-SJW community when the original story was posted to make fun of how the anti-SJW community will jump on anything. It's Poe's Law in action...

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  74. Again though the point is by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    to create a new boogie man now that the blacks are becoming less and less effective. Without laws to stop it races mix and folks mellow out and you can no longer use race to divide the working class. Religion's on the decline in America too so that's petering out. The ruling class need something to keep us at each other's throats so we don't demand better pay and healthcare. It's always the same patter, what amazes and depresses me is that nobody really talks about it much outside of the occasional lefty complaining about the Southern Strategy or Dog Whistles or the real reason all those "confederate" monuments were erected in the 60s and 70s.

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  75. Re:No. You are juvenile. by arth1 · · Score: 1

    I still don't get the big deal about Uranus being a Gas Giant. How is that funny?

    Because everybody knows it's an ice giant, not a gas giant.

  76. Rename Debian by Solandri · · Score: 1

    The name "Debian" is a combination of the first names of Ian Murdock and his wife (Debra). By placing the woman's name before the man's, "Debian" is clearly misandristic (hatred of men, counterpart to misogynistic). The name should be replaced with something neutral which doesn't offend anyone.

  77. Re:No. You are juvenile. by HiThere · · Score: 1

    If we assume that the name was originally intended to slander those with mobility problems (as some have alleged, without evidence) then the official history of the name can't be truster.

    HOWEVER: Even though I believe the name was an innocent acronym, it has caused difficulties in getting it used in work places. This is independent of why it was given that name. (Yes, I've always thought it referred to Gnu Image Manipulation Program. But some people have publicly objected to it as abusive, and many more have been reluctant to use something that could be seen as abusive.) Public image is important here, regardless of historical causality.

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  78. So effing mad by typical-slashdot-usr · · Score: 1

    I'm boycotting all the linuxes because this crap is absurd... why are we letting people get carried away by PC norms that are just turning everyone into virtue-signalling snowflakes?

    Phaid says it best... he likes sexy things, he likes sex, and he likes when sex is used to sell and market things. Who they hell are THEY to tell him what is and is not OK? He said it best when he said, "Especially when it comes to free software, we cannot give political correctness a veto over offensive speech."

    He would love my software package LABIA, which cleverly stands for Lab-Integrated ASSistant. Notice the triple-entendre there?

    Mashiki knows that everyone who loves tits is NOT a misogynist, they are just not SJW! I love tits so much that I developed a utility called TiTTYFsck, which of course reasonably stands for Time for TTY Fsck. Anyone who has any umbrage about this software package name is just a Nazi who loves to slaughter freedom of speech as much as they love to slaughter Jews!

    gweihir knows that Debian is becoming infested with "the enemy", and that the tiny minority can use their outsized voices to force their boring, confined viewpoints upon the world. Even Dog-Cow agrees that he's "not going to support an organization that has given in to terrorists", and he's willing to give up Debian after using it for 15 years or so! nightfire-unique has been a Debian user, supporter, and developer for 20 years, and even he says that SJW censorship is cancer that will kill the host! I hope to persuade all three of them to GIVE UP Debian, and instead adopt my new distro Lesbian! (Where, reasonably, Lesbian stands for "LESs deBIAN".) Join my efforts to make a distro that becomes to strong white cock that invades the pussies of SJW virtue-signalling censorship!

    r_naked eloquently states, "If you are offended -- go fuck yourself!" I like the character of this man! After I read his post history, he is giving me energetic erection, and I very much want to find out what his mother looks like so I can bend her over and treat her like r_naked treats SJW! And if he is offended, he can go fuck himself! iCEBaLM even knows that being PC will lead to a white-washed world where no one can whisper the word n1gger without fear of feeling bad about his words!

    Even Shotgun knows that people can just ignore bad words... and besides "the rest of us think it is light hearted fun." That's why I purposefully name my GNU utilities with names like "tearcunt" and "rapemore". In fact, I am so strong in my beliefs, I am teaching my little girl to write utilities like "slurpcum". She makes me so proud!

    Anyways, do you think I am alone in my desire for freedom? NO, look at the slashdot IDs of Phaid (938), Dog-Cow (21281), Shotgun (30919), iCEBaLM (34905), gweihir (88907), r_naked (150044), Mashiki (184564), nightfire-unique (253895) - these are very respectable heterosexual white men, and if they are not heterosexual white men, they can go fuck themselves into the next holocaust!

  79. Re:Wut? by Carewolf · · Score: 1

    I'm at work. I don't know if I should google it. WTF does 'weboob' mean? Why should I be offended by it?

    Weboob is offensive to the developers who worked on the project by suggesting that all male developers all have man-boobs.

    And that the girl coders have wee-boobs.

    That latter might be true, but that is no reason to harass them. They are awesome.

  80. Just about Rorschach by aepervius · · Score: 2

    Actually this is not about what you identify in the pattern and has never been. What the psychiatrist observe, is when he asks you HOW you came to the idea (which part remind you of what) and what RATIONALIZATION you use. In other word they could not care less that you see a particularly salty penis in one picture (or a breast , vagina or anus) in fact the picture could still be very similar to one. No what they care is how you reason your way around it, how consistent you are about it, if you show pattern of pathology in your explanations. The content you assign to the picture does not matter. In fact you could joke about identifying all as sex/murder picture but be perfectly fine mentally, and the next guy only see cuddly tears but be recognized due to its pattern and rationalization, be identified as pathological.

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    1. Re:Just about Rorschach by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      I appreciate you clearing that up.

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  81. Silly by dskoll · · Score: 1

    The name Weboob is clearly a juvenile attempt at humour, which 20 seconds worth of looking at the weboob.org web site would make obvious. It's silly, stupid, juvenile and pathetic... but harrassment? Really? That's going too far.

    If Debian wants a policy against juvenile and stupid package names, that's fine, but I don't think over-reach of the anti-harrassment rules is the way to go.

  82. You're pronouncing it wrong, dummy. by sabbede · · Score: 1

    It's Web-oob (Web Out Of Browser), not we-boob. I see no reason to ban a package because someone read the name wrong. That's their fault and the offence they inappropriately take is their problem and their's alone.

  83. Re:No. You are juvenile. by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

    Why?? I think that's really funny, and I am a 46 year old male. Do I need to grow up, or have you just lost your funny bone?

    Honestly, it would be funny if I encountered it in anyone else's code- but after seeing it my own so many times it's not funny anymore- and it makes me cringe thinking of someone else coming along and discovering it later (that might not find it funny). I've always moved from company to company so leaving little easter eggs have never bit me in the butt. When you stay one place for a long time, juvenile jokes and potty humor could come back as a liability.

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  84. Re:No. You are juvenile. by lsllll · · Score: 1

    "I have a "Request Ass" table out there in one database and whereas it made me laugh 7 years ago- now it makes me cringe."

    Why does it make you cringe? Because you realize that you're too stupid to use a period when you abbreviate things?

    Periods are usually not allowed in table and column names.

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  85. The fuck by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

    Don't tell them about "The Fuck"
    https://packages.debian.org/fr...

    It is actually a nice tool: if you mistyped a shell command, just type "fuck" and it will attempt to fix it for you.

  86. for the dutch speaking people by sad_ · · Score: 1

    depenisvanjezus

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