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Japan Announces Withdrawal From International Whaling Commission, To Resume Commercial Whaling (straitstimes.com)
Japan is withdrawing from the International Whaling Commission (IWC) and will resume commercial whaling next year, a government spokesman said on Wednesday, in a move expected to spark international criticism. From a report: "We have decided to withdraw from the International Whaling Commission in order to resume commercial whaling in July next year," top government spokesman Yoshihide Suga told reporters. "Commercial whaling to be resumed from July next year will be limited to Japan's territorial waters and exclusive economic zones. We will not hunt in the Antarctic waters or in the southern hemisphere," Mr Suga added.
The announcement had been widely expected and comes after Japan failed in a bid earlier this year to convince the IWC to allow it to resume commercial whaling. Tokyo has repeatedly threatened to pull out of the body and has been regularly criticised for catching hundreds of whales a year for "scientific research" despite being a signatory to a moratorium on hunting the animals. Mr Suga said Japan would officially inform the IWC of its decision by the end of the year, which will mean the withdrawal comes into effect by June 30. Leaving the IWC means Japanese whalers will be able to resume the hunting in Japanese coastal waters of minke and other whales currently protected by the commission. But Japan will not be able to continue the so-called scientific research hunts in the Antarctic that has been exceptionally allowed as an IWC member under the Antarctic Treaty.
The announcement had been widely expected and comes after Japan failed in a bid earlier this year to convince the IWC to allow it to resume commercial whaling. Tokyo has repeatedly threatened to pull out of the body and has been regularly criticised for catching hundreds of whales a year for "scientific research" despite being a signatory to a moratorium on hunting the animals. Mr Suga said Japan would officially inform the IWC of its decision by the end of the year, which will mean the withdrawal comes into effect by June 30. Leaving the IWC means Japanese whalers will be able to resume the hunting in Japanese coastal waters of minke and other whales currently protected by the commission. But Japan will not be able to continue the so-called scientific research hunts in the Antarctic that has been exceptionally allowed as an IWC member under the Antarctic Treaty.
SINK THEM.
Like withdrawal from the league of nations on 1933.
I predict a tsunami...
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The UK does not hunt whales. Why can't you copy that, too?
It is good at least Japan will stop hunting in the Southern Ocean. Go back to your own hemisphere.
I didn't know that the "scientific" hunts can only be done under the IWC. I don't like whaling but if Japan keeps to its own waters, hopefully the whales might learn (if possible) and move away from there.
I tried raw whale last time I was in Japan. The only way I can describe it is that it was exactly how I imaged chewing on a used tampon would be.
I might try cooked whale next time, but I can't imagine it would be that good either.
I honestly can't imagine there is a huge market for whale meat. And my guess the market is about as large as the horse meant market in Japan. (Which I also tried raw in Japan and didn't enjoy it)
Pull the 2020 olympics!
Well he is weak AF and if he had 1/2 a brain and wasn't under 8 investigations and about to go to prison for 199 years, maybe yeah he could have in that alternate universe said "Hey, Japan, fuck off on the whales, eh?"
I mean if he had done that, that's one less thing in the treason/collusion/obstruction/enrichment/fraud/laundering/charitymismanagement chip pile, right? He could at least throw his weight around like a psycho FOR A CAUSE, right?
You know, besides making Erdogan or Putin or MBS happy.
As long as it is only in Japanese territory their choice but how long they take to put the whale down should be taken into account, a cruel extended death should be banned and any method should require pretty much instant death for the whale. Not that I would eat whale or promote it's killing but prevention of cruelty to animals laws should apply.
Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
Whalehunters do give money to Japanese politicians. Lots of money.
Japanese politics is all about money.
If this has a negative impact on the 2020 Olympics, then whaling will be banned just as quickly.
Ah yes "research" whales that just happen to end up in the fish markets.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
Whales shouldnâ(TM)t be hunted for food at all. They are nearly extinct.
If Japan starts whaling, so will all of east and south east Asia, and you can kiss whales goodbye.
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Or Madonna, Linda Sarsour, Alyssa Milano, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez and Polanski fan Meryl Streep could organise a million-strong pussy hat march against whaling. Or just like the March for Science, they could call it a March for Whales. Beta cucks like Ron Pearlman and Chris Evans can join in.
But Trump isn't killing the whales. So its just crickets chirping then.
Just as long as the Jews aren't invited. All us pussy-hatters know they are the problem.
I thought I should have warned Linda about that.
Market obviously exists. If you can't imagine it, it just means you lack imagination.
Animals hunted and used everywhere around the world. Species are going extinct all around the world. I don’t know why people act outraged when the cute or glamorous ones are the victims. So if we’re gonna be outraged about this, we should just probably stop destroying the planet in the 1000 other ways. “They” always claim we’ll slow down economic progress, disrupt economies, etc, but somehow they’re perfectly fine with automation, globalization and Walmart ruining your hometown, by saying new jobs and economies will develop. So, by the same logic, if we eliminated environmental destruction and animal exploitation, we’d have new earth friendlier economies emerge.
Even in Japan there isn't much of a market for it, it is not something people enjoy eating and was traditionally only eaten as a source of food when there was not much else. There have been stories about how even much of their "scientific" whaling meat gets wasted as it isn't popular.
Well if theres not much of a market for it less whales get killed. Win win problem solved.
"This research is delicious!"
Japan has a strange obsession with whale meat.
Table-ized A.I.
What is the difference between hunting whales and all the other animals we eat (besides tastiness level but that's opinion based)? Never understood why this is an issue or why it keeps coming up. Could you imagine if there was a Muslim community pressuring the world not to eat pig and being able fine those that do? Or a Hindu one for cow? Wouldn't go over well. So they just don't eat it and stay out of our dietary business. Why are whales an exception? I have had whale bacon, whale curry, and whale steak just to try it (and piss off hippies) but honestly wasn't a fan. That being said, there are clearly people that do like it and a market so to each their own.
doesn't work that way in Japan sadly. The government will support the industry to keep it going so they don't lose face.
Itâ(TM)ll mostly be electronics (no more Sony) and that means when itâ(TM)s new car time in a few years itâ(TM)s not going to be a Honda or Toyota...
Not when the government props up a failed industry to protect jobs over the animal life
Aristotle Onassis had whale foreskin bar stools. What's not to love about that?
No, get real, if a shoe company or box company started losing money permanently do you think they'd stay open for giggles, especially if nobody liked these shoes or boxes? No companies going to keep whaling if theres no money in it. Crazy activists on the other hand will stick with their causes no matter what. Thats why they ban mammoth ivory even though it could save the elephants.
Except that won't be an effective boycot. Not all Hondas and Toyotas are made in Japan, and the ones made in the US, Canada and Mexico probably use a lot of NAFTA parts. Also, non-Japanese cars are still full of all kinds of Japanese parts-- headlights, air bags, stereos etc.
Japan has kept them open losing money for 30 years now in the guise of scientific whaling. Various Industries all over the world are funded by governments while making a loss with no real prospect of ever turning a profit.
No, get real, if a shoe company or box company started losing money permanently do you think they'd stay open for giggles
If the shoes or boxes are in fact generating nationalist giggles, then yes.
That would remain true if their gross sales were actually low. If you put a camera in people's faces, do they pretend to like it? Then yes, easy call. They would do it.
WindBourne, tell us how it's China's fault.
the Japanese people need to stand up and be counted...
is this acceptable for the government of japan to deplete stocks and allow China to take the moral high ground ?
Like invading China, death marching women and children, and raping Koreans.
Japanese politics is all about money.
What a strange thing to say - and American (or any democratic / capitalist) politics isn't about money?!
There's probably no other country in the World who is as well funded by large corporate interests as USA - look up lobbying (bribing).
Don't let yourselves be burdened by the know-nothing western leftards.
I also say we bring back whaling, let's just give it a try.. My parents whaled on me when I was a kid, and I turned out ok.
The only source that insinuates that there is no demand is from antiwhaling propaganda. Japan for its part says its not profitable simply because they by definition don't allow a profit since its supposed to be scientific. Why not let them whale? They only hunt common species. If theres no demand like you say they'll eventually get bored of it as the old people die off and problem solved. On the other hand high demand means the Japanese will have an incentive to pour billions more into research and funding than whiny envirowackos are willing to do to save and increase whale populations of those they hunt and those they want to hunt bringing more delicious tastes and delectable food options into the world cuisine.
Time to drop another nuke. Take out their whale processing stations and ports.
In fact the only whale delicacy served is thin, very expensive, slices of kujira no tama, or testicle. There is no dietary reason why they would want to resume large scale whaling.
No it isn't the only source at all. Their have been studies done both in and external to Japan. Whale meat is Bland and smells bad when cooking, it was only ever consumed during times of food shortages and is pretty much hated in all but a tiny percentage of the population there. The problem becomes the Government happy to perpetuate a dead industry just to save face, thousands of whales will die and other countries will use this as an opportunity to start up the industry again be it for the perfume industry, the whale oil or ancient remedies.
When you think about how a whale was the pilot of the Enola Gay, which dropped a nuclear warhead on Hiroshima.
After that, the Japanese began to systematically exterminate the whales as revenge for what they perceived to be the beginning of a nuclear holocaust during WW 2.
And who but the Nazis and the Whales would be cruel enough to try to genocide an entire species? (aside from dark skinned Africans and African-Americans in the 21st century who want to genocide non-black people and take their land, property, and money, of course)
What the Japanese are doing to the whales is just and right, and only people that support the use of nuclear weapons would think that the slant eyed Japs should not be killing the whales willy nilly. I bet the Japanese women have vaginas that are slanted sideways just to spite the Chinese men.
Fosdil fuels lose so much, they need a 23 trillion dollar subsidy every year. Don't see them closing.
No, government egos are quite capable of keeping the undead animated. The whaling industry is such a zombie.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
No, they don't make money. Neither side does. Whalers are given money, they don't make it, and protestors lose money.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
Worth noting... Japan's population is shrinking. They had 1.4 million deaths to less than 1 million births last year. Kids live in their parent's houses until middle age and are not having sex, marrying or coupling in general. The population is tanking. The antiquarians in the population save compulsively, and they spend nothing. About 20% of the population is over 65.
They've got a large economy but that cannot exist with a shrinking population. It's a serious issue. They have had negative interest rates for a decade.
That said, I wonder who there is pushing for whaling and what possible good it is to Japan? It certainly does not improve their status in my mind and I may make economic decisions based on it. (I drive a Toyota. Now. Maybe not the next car I lease though. I may go 'whale free'. ). They can't give the existing whale meat away, and at the current rate, there will be fewer and fewer consumers of the stuff there, anyway. And of course, they've put a lot of nuclear waste into the territorial waters since their Fukujima fukup, so maybe we don't need to worry too much. The whales likely glow anyway and every mouthful is a potential poison pill for the 50 people who even eat it. Oh, well. Enjoy your lunch, kids! Have another serving!
I guess we should keep in mind that this is the same country that used to have a game show that featured children being told their parents had died. They are 'different'.
Who ever said "make money" is the sole reason that everything happens? Seriously, there are other motivations, people. Look into them.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Trump started this whole "Fuck you world! We're gonna do what's good for US!"
Rest of World, "Sounds good to us!"
Tune in people! There's more to come!!
One day we might get some independent data on the amount of radionuclides in Japanese fisheries considering the amount of radioactive effluents the ongoing Fukushima disaster is putting into their food chain. I wouldn't be surprised if they know all this and opening up options for themselves.
The volcanic region made seafood a rich harvest for Japan and now they have poisoned it. Bio-accumulation of radionuclides in the food chain is real no matter how much Japan suppresses information. It will continue to poison the Pacific until we take the clean-up effort away from TEPCO and make it an international issue that we address with maximum priority to stop it spreading any further.
That would be the honorable thing to do.
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
His campaign to diminish experts and abuse the environment have been a source of inspiration for lunatics the world over.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
And America ranks badly on corruption, pollution, destruction of endangered species, destruction of areas of special scientific interest, destruction of history...
That it's the same in every othet corrupt nation shouldn't be a shock.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
Horse steak is pretty good and you can put pretty much anything in sausage. There's still a big, not very animal friendly, horse meat industry in Europe and Argentine.
I live in Spain, I can think of at least four shops within 100 yards that only sell horse meat.
(I live next door to a big food market)
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This will make America look great by comparison, therefore conspiracy.
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It is time we simply sink fishing vessels from many other nations. We should easily be able to make harpoons strong enough to take in whale boats.
Corn in the US is one such industry. Itâ(TM)s crazy how much tax is spent on it. And then it goes right into unhealthy foods.
Can you boycott iPhones while you're at it, please?
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Except it is easy to turn up the marketing so everyone would want it.
Being the amount of meat you can get from one whale, it makes them a rather profitable target for hunting. The profit from a caught whale is worth upgrading a normal fishing ship to a whaling ship.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Libertarians? Conservative Republicans that say the invisible handjob of the market will solve Healthcare?
My guess is that whaling in Japan is similar to coal in the US. Both are dying industries that still have enough political clout to get money from the government to prop up their businesses and keep them going long past when they should have died.
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The problem is in the US we mostly raise Horses as Pets, some farmers use them for utility purposes, such as ranching, but that can be replaced with ATV, however they keep Horses for mostly personal reasons, So eating them just seems wrong.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
No collusion! Its all coincidence that everything bad orange man does happens to benefit russia and not usa. libtards so stupid!
They subscribe to ancestor worship, Buddhist doctrine. That the movies of The Superstar became an unlikely hit in Japan, much liked by the older generation shows they have some strong value system not visible to the West.
So, it is particularly disappointing that they don't value whales and they seem to condone exterminating a species. Hope something changes and they begin to see whales in a different light.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Well it isn't the Republicans Fault, there is a global trend towards nationalism, and regressing back into the old traditional ways, even if we don't know what they are, or why they were followed to begin with.
There are a lot of stresses happening to world society today, many of them are bigger then any one country and these problems are not limited to particular borders. These complex problems are way too abstract for average citizen. So our primal urge of when there is a problem that we cannot confront, Hide in a deep dark cave and close the opening is in place. This urge means things like closed borders, doubling down on traditions, grouping together with people most similar to yourself. And basically try to reset society back to a time where you had felt good with.
The problem is our instincts are not the best course of action for the problem. It is like an opossum playing dead on a busy street. These are problems that require work, planning, sacrifice and thought to solve. Not a gut feeling.
But because it is so stressful many people gut feeling is a strong motivation.
Now in America Row v Wade and the Abortion debate with Region (a source strongly tied to old traditions) Democrats decided to go on the Pro-Choice side, while the Republicans went on the Pro-Life side. This connected many of the religious groups to the Republicans. Which lead to a lot of people who value traditions and the old way to that party. Turing its culture to what we see today.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
23 trillion? Might want to do a reality check there, since the US federal budget is only 4.4 trillion. Maybe 23 billion?
Their actual plan is to get us down to only 2 humpback whales, in the hopes of attracting starships from the future. They can then capture one and harvest the technology.
It's sad to have to destroy such an intelligent animal into pieces--to prove the point that it's not so different than killing wales.
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Your move!
If by "subsidy" you mean not taxing fossil fuels to oblivion then let me tell you this is not what a subsidy is. Fossil fuels will remain the most affordable source of fuel for the next decade (but probably not the decade after that), so any rollback of existing taxes whose sole purpose was to deprive individuals of this cheap source energy is a good thing. Not everyone is a commie living in a cold apartment and without access to a car.
It's not that the problems imposed by unfettered globalism are complex, it's that there are no solutions to those problems that are satisfactory to the majority of people living in developed nations. For example, a true globalist moves his factories from the US to China (Foxconn) to save 10 dollars in production costs per piece, and then considers moving again to Vietnam because there are factory workers there willing to work for even less. This creates a problem for people who work in manufacturing jobs in the US and see those jobs moving to Asia. And no, not everybody is an MIT graduate that can work in the design department of Apple, some people want to work in manufacturing. Then there is the other problem of "open borders" bringing in too many people who are capable of only for menial jobs and can't even speak the local language, and there is already an overabundance of labour for these kinds of jobs in developed nations, and automation will reduce demand for such jobs anyway. Again, no solutions that are satisfactory to the citizen of a developed nations exist for that problem, and the only "solution" is to throw money at the problem that could be spent towards the native citizens. So, the solution that is chosen by most voters is to back out of unfettered globalism and impose tarrifs and closed borders. Unfettered globalism proponents should propose proper solutions instead of engaging in nonsensical smear campaigns against nationalism.
Apparently everything needs to be simple enough for you to grasp or it just doesn't exist.
Will have to make a return time voyage to stop them.
Is Trump running Japan now too?
I'm sure the subsidy he will cite is the idea that oil companies aren't paying for the negative externalities associated with the use of their product, therefore that somehow counts as a subsidy.
Still wrong, but alas.
Has anyone considered working with the whales on how they can defend themselves? Just a thought.
All bloody animals should fin die! Destroying our planet is NOT OK!
What you can't imagine Bosco is a very large fraction of reality. Bust a whale bust a tail snatch the whiners precious grail.
However the problem isn't globalism. Because you are even explaining how all these countries are failing their manufacturing workers, by playing the "Race to the bottom" game. There has been growth in US manufacturing, mainly due to investments in technology. The US let its manufacturing infrastructure slide, the US has been and still is good at making BIG Items. Cars, Trucks, Industrial equipment. Asia once rebuilt after WWII, had took on making small things. The US had no problem with this, because small things were the cheap stuff that they couldn't get staff to run an efficient company anyways, and BIg things were was all the money.
However as we moved from industrial to technology economy. The small things were no longer toys and trinkets. But vital parts of the economy. And Asia manufacturing was prepped to make such tiny things. While the US still likes to make big things. The US can try to make small things with limited success, however it doesn't have the support infrastructure for it, so it is more expensive. Employee wages are only a minor part of the equation.
Without globalization the United States probably wouldn't be a technology innovation hub as it is today, and we would probably be in a much worse situation. Because globalization beyond expanding worker base to different countries, it also expands the number of customers by almost 20 times.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Too abstract for peons ... eh ? Old nationalist ways == beating-the-crap outa Trotsky-slut Boscos like you.
I really like the part where you completely ignored when I said the government will support the industry to keep it going so they don't lose face. If you think they wouldn't, then by all means, say so. Don't simply ignore it, it hurts your credibility.
Just because there isn't much of a market for the meat, doesn't mean the whale has no economic value. Hell, perfumers pay top dollar for sperm whale vomit that washes up on shore. The market is a strange place.
On a separate note, I think announce that Japanese whaling ship numbers have recovered enough that we are restarting our industry of pirating whalers. Each whaling ship harvested has enormous economic benefit, and the industry as a whole can employ many peg legged captains and scurvy dogs.
Wow You should be some kind of professional funny man. That was hilarious!
See, the problem with unfettered globalism is that it enables the "race to the bottom". If there are no tarrifs, nobody has an incentive to make things in the US when they can go to China, India or Vietnam and make the same things but pay workers significantly less and also have less environmental regulations to deal with. The only reason the US still manufactures trucks is a special tarrif imposed on imported trucks which inhibits a "race to the bottom" for that particular kind of product.
You have obviously never looked a whale in the eye. They are intelligent beings that have as much right to life as you. Nobody's survival depends upon eating whales. Maybe a moral argument could have been made a couple of hundred years ago, but today its not civilized behavior.
Greed is the root of all evil.
Pst, hey mods, that was a South Park reference.
One look at your username tells us that this is a lie.
I believe he means the military industrial complex which secures European Arab Oil supplies. The United States pays trillions and had since the 80s to secure the global energy market by acting as the world police.
Solar doesn't require us to build and refit carrier groups to ensure its price on the global market....
They have government sponsored workshops to teach people how to eat whale meat.
This is in Japan mind, where pretty much everyone eats sushi.
Collect the whole set.
Well it isn't the Republicans Fault
In a way, it is.
- The financial crisis in 2008 was definitely made possible by deregulation of Wallstreet and the push for laissez faire in general. The ripple effect it had is still felt in countries where nationalism is on the rise. Specifically, it rallied people around the idea of national austerity in economically hard times which led to more income inequality (with most of those responsible going unpunished or even largely unimpacted). So there is also plenty of blame to go around for those (rightwing) governments that have facilitated said income inequality.
- War-mongering in the Middle East has been a mostly Republican affair and it has certainly cultivated religious hatred worldwide (back and forth) as well as created many, many refugees. Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not implying that the Middle East would have been some peaceful oasis without Western 'interventions', but in hindsight I believe we can be fairly sure that we haven't really helped.
The problem is our instincts are not the best course of action for the problem. It is like an opossum playing dead on a busy street. These are problems that require work, planning, sacrifice and thought to solve. Not a gut feeling.
To me that describes the rightwing approach to governing pretty well. Driven by instincts and gut feelings to a large degree and representing the world in an overly simplified fashion.
However the problem isn't globalism. Because you are even explaining how all these countries are failing their manufacturing workers, by playing the "Race to the bottom" game.
That's pretty cool. Somehow you've gotten your mental gymnastics to the point where you can cite a problem that is clearly facilitated by globalism, but somehow not attribute it to globalism.
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"They can do what they want in their own country unless it's something very specific I care about. "
Does that kind of sum up your post?
You're speaking nonsense. There's enough demand that Japan has, in the recent past, resorted to importing whale meat from Iceland.
They use whale meat for pet food
Horseshit. The US has enough oil reserves to be completely independent if they so choose. "No blood for oil" is a slogan dreamed up by retards.
Seriously. Fuck those fuckinh Nips. Fuck them in their radioactive sea asses.
But there you are, talking out of your asshole like Jim Carey. Fucking goof, go suck another rich mans cock already..
Protip: Whaling vessels are purpose-built
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against spreading this news and I'm not pro-hunting but Slashdot isn't the place for it.
This isn't news for nerds no matters how you want to look at it and I cannot ignore that.
There are a whole bunch of species of whale that are neither particularly smart nor anywhere near endangered, like the common minke whale. Anyone who isn't a vegetarian has no business pretending there's a moral issue here.
And the general IWC moratorium, now over three decades old, is in blatant defiance of the purpose stated in the convention that established the IWC -- to make the whaling industry orderly, in order to increase whale stocks, so that more whales can be hunted. A general ban on commercial whaling isn't what the Japanese signed up for, and it's ludicrous to claim they should be bound to keep going along with the abuse of a treaty that's been perverted against its explicit text.
Reading through the summary it seems like maybe having Japan hunt whales near Asher they live, may be better than having them hunt whales around Antartica (which is what they were doing).
Antartica still has a long way to go to recover from the whaling days, and if they are hunting locally maybe it will be more sustainable.
Too bad they can't just give up whaling altogether though,
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Does anyone here honestly think they have some sort of moral authority to cast judgment and aspersions on Japan for harvesting whales? Sadly, I think the answer to that is a zealous "YES!!!"
Listen, we are a predator species. We kill and eat other species. We even take joy in it (*gasp*). We also breath air. We also reproduce sexually. All of this is as natural to humankind as can be. Morality doesn't enter in to it. Save your moral philosophizing and righteous indignation for stuff that actually matters. Because whether Japan or any other nation continues to harvest and consume whale definitely does not.
You are the only retard here. Oil is a commodity sold on a global market. If oil prices rise, they rise everywhere. The only way to go completely independent would be to declare oil a strategic resource and ban all imports and exports of it. That would kill your economy overnight.
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Letâ(TM)s rape and plunder and burn it all ducking down! CAPITALISM! FUCK YA! Fuck you and fuck your childrenâ(TM)s childrenâ(TM)s future, thereâ(TM)s money to be made!
According to people in places with worse records.
We all know you have a hardon for irrational hate of the US, but you really should open your eyes in your old age lest be left in the "old man yells at cloud" category for your grandkids.
Fuck toy dolphin....fuck you whale!!!!!
not really. The gov is pushing this into schools, etc. They are having a difficult time expanding it and there is LOADS of extra frozen whale meat there (and most was thrown out).
No, the Japanese gov continues to buy whale meat and dump it on their market. They have it in schools, hospitals, etc. This is NOT about allowing the market to choose. Activists/extremists are on both sides of the spectrum. Look at America. Our current gov is nearly a nazi clone. A little bit more rightwing, and we are there.
You couldn't work AGW in there somehow?
When wages fall or are stagnant while the cost of living rises people get upset and Nationalism flourishes. The lesson of History shows: Either the Rich spread the money around or the poor spread the pitchforks and torches around.
Pitiful. You are nothing, worm, but a diseased and feeble mind.
Why do you care? How is it any worse than slaughtering any other animal for food?
Sounds like you are a hypocrite.
Think about it, commercial whaling will be done only for profit. The things they did with research disguising was government paid. And all indications are that the younger generation despise whaling, and the older one only did it as a tradition (not for the horrid taste). Often whale meat was left to rot because nobody bought it. Thus if it is commercial whaling only... a few may try... Then with collapsing market and nobody buying it, it dies out. Win win on the long run : the japanese government can pretend it did what it's people wanted (well a few of them) and it is not their fault if the market don't buy, and in the long run they can point the finger that the whale number don't drop and tell people "see : nothing bad happens".
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You're somewhat ignorant of US foreign policy and its motivation.
Also, reserves is not the same thing as affordable oil.
The US has a long-standing policy of installing (or trying to) friendly terrorist regimes where cheap, easy to extract oil is available.
Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, most of the small Gulf "countries" which only have oil wells and US bases, etc.
There is no demand. This is a simple fact. Nobody in Japan likes whale meat, even the whalers prefer other meats.
https://i.imgur.com/rUybGN4.pn...
Win for Japan.
You are the only retard here. Oil is a commodity sold on a global market. If oil prices rise, they rise everywhere.
Hurr durr, thanks Einstein! And having a fuckload of oil they could sell for way more money would be so horrible for the US economy!
They'll do as they please and then claim it was an "accident" later if they've broken their word on both where they will hunt and what species will be targeted.
I doubt commercial whalers give a shit.
And then one day, the species on the red list will be accident-ed top extinction, sorry about that, it was totally a mistake.
Japan will get off scot free if they do.
The ban on whaling mainly because fucking whalers can't be trusted to not slaughter anything that has usable blubber and meat.
Commercial whaling to be resumed from July next year will be limited to Japan's territorial waters and exclusive economic zones
We can trust them for that until they will have extinguished whales presence in their exclusive economic zones, but after that?
Um... Clinton (Bill) was directly responsible for the derregulation that led to banks being able to get into that situation. There Republicans pushing for it, sure, but that was Clinton's passage. And well, NAFTA. And "welfare to work".
I don't know what I would do without my daily dose of paid PR cleanup for the nuclear industry here on slashdot.
Yes, that's exactly how it works. America has been a top CO2 polluter for decades, it's in our culture. That's why it's OK for us to keep doing it, but bad if India or China do a small fraction of what we do.
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WindBourne
It is. Imagine paying European prices to fill up your car. Then count the money you'd have left for everything else.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
[a] "native" populations in the arctic are allowed to harvest whales - it would apparently be racist to hold them to the same standards as anybody else. Therefore, the Japanese who also are of non-Anglo ethnicity should be eligible for this same exemption if they choose to start branding everybody else as racists.
[b] Human beings are simply evolved animals, like all other evolved animals, right? If so, then everything humans do is just as "natural" as everything any other species does. If it's OK for sharks to kill and eat a whale, then it certainly should be OK for humans to do it.
[c] If whales go extinct, something else will evolve to fill in the gaps in the environment. Everything that currently exists, we are told, evolved from a bit of pond scum getting hit by lightning in a toxic primordial Earth, so clearly all the diverse life ever seen on Earth can arise from even a hyper-toxic and lifeless world.
or, have the people who've been pushing multiculturalism and darwinian evolution been lying?
You seem to know a lot about where I live, work and what I think.
Please, tell me.
I'd be fascinated to learn.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
Right?
It's obvious to others, but for your benefit: If you recommend spanking / beating / hitting children, then you are perpetuating the vicious cycle. It had a profoundly negative impact on you. It's a sickness.
Therapy may help you, please don't delay especially if you're considering becoming a parent.
It wasn't your fault back then, but if you hurt your children then it becomes your fault now. Hitting children causes severe emotional trauma and leads to more violence as the children grow up.
Please break the cycle, our future depends on it.
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Whales are near the top of the food chain and long lived mammals and so they tend to bio-accumulate a huge load of heavy metals and other toxins in the oceans. They're probably not really advisable things to eat on a regular basis if you value your health.
for everything leading up to World War 2. If it wasn't for that event the Japanese Emperor wouldn't have regained power from the Shogunate and they would have neither rapidly militarized nor bred rapidly to make up their manpower shortfall. Instead they ended up westernizing rapidly, coming to the US to be educated, and eventually going back to Japan and using what they learned to rapidly industrialize it, far faster than Japan's resources allowed.
End result was they needed to wrest resources from their neighbors, and they became honorless dogs under the Emperor, leading to war crimes that even the purged samurai might have balked at (see the live vivisection work down in the South Pacific during WW2.)
Just terrible, like all the other senseless animal slaughter world wide of dissappearing species. Screw you Japan, you have lost my respect
Japan: "Hey, Trump doesn't give a shit. Why should we?"