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GPU Accelerated Realtime Skin Smoothing Algorithms Make Actors Look Perfect

dryriver writes: A recent Guardian article about the need for actors and celebrities -- male and female -- to look their best in a high-definition media world ended on the note that several low-profile Los Angeles VFX outfits specialize in "beautifying actors" in movies, TV shows and video ads. They reportedly use a software named "Beauty Box," resulting in films and other motion content that are -- for lack of a better term -- "motion Photoshopped." After some investigating, it turns out that "Beauty Box" is a sophisticated CUDA and OpenGL accelerated skin-smoothing plugin for many popular video production software that not only smooths even terribly rough or wrinkly looking skin effectively, but also suppresses skin spots, blemishes, scars, acne or freckles in realtime, or near realtime, using the video processing capabilities of modern GPUs.

The product's short demo reel is here with a few examples. Everybody knows about photoshopped celebrities in an Instagram world, and in the print magazine world that came long before it, but far fewer people seem to realize that the near-perfect actor, celebrity, or model skin you see in high-budget productions is often the result of "digital makeup" -- if you were to stand next to the person being filmed in real life, you'd see far more ordinary or aged skin from the near-perfection that is visible on the big screen or little screen. The fact that the algorithms are realtime capable also means that they may already be being used for live television broadcasts without anyone noticing, particularly in HD and 4K resolution broadcasts. The question, as was the case with photoshopped magazine fashion models 25 years ago, is whether the technology creates an unrealistic expectation of having to have "perfectly smooth looking" skin to look attractive, particularly in people who are past their teenage years.

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  1. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Interesting

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  2. Will it work on neckbeard geeks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If not, I don't see much need for it.

    1. Re: Will it work on neckbeard geeks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      only in 4D

    2. Re: Will it work on neckbeard geeks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Western Digital's version, the WD-4D, is pretty slick.

  3. Won't 4k kill this for a while? by wonkavader · · Score: 3, Funny

    "The question...is whether the technology creates an unrealistic expectation of having"
    blurry, featureless skin.

    1. Re: Won't 4k kill this for a while? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh for sure. Penalties will be assessed for deceit

    2. Re:Won't 4k kill this for a while? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I already expected people's naughty bits to be pixelated. CURSE YOU, JAPANESE PORN!

    3. Re: Won't 4k kill this for a while? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK start over I think you typed that wrong

    4. Re: Won't 4k kill this for a while? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      So we've gone full circle, we have invented SD video

    5. Re: Won't 4k kill this for a while? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I saw a discussion with a few professional directors at Broadcast Video Expo a few years ago and the interviewer goes 'so are you excited for 4k'? and one answered that as most ladies wouldn't want to be seen in that sharp detail they would have to use smoothing filters (like real glass ones) so you didn't have 4k and so was a bit pointless. they were all more interested in HDR.

      on personal opinion.. whens the last time you watched a film and said 'that was quite good, but it would be better if it was sharper'. my complaints about movies dont involve being sharper (unless the focus puller fucked up)

    6. Re: Won't 4k kill this for a while? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Ayup, I told people decades ago, that going to higher resolutions is only useful for nature movies. Sitcoms and anything with real actors in it, require lower resolution since nobody wants to see age spots, veins and wrinkles.

    7. Re:Won't 4k kill this for a while? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      That's the default setting on most camera apps for phones. All they did was accelerate it to realtime.

      Unfortunately photoshopping is basically the default now. No skill required, the app magically makes you look better without even bothering to ask if that's what you want, before offering to upload to Facebook or Instagram.

      Either we have to build the tech into every mirror or start educating people how harmful it is pushing for natural beauty and imperfections to be the standard. Just as some magazines and fashion brands were doing that we got hit with the apps.

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    8. Re: Won't 4k kill this for a while? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      age spots, veins and wrinkles.

      How did you know my pr0n fetish!

    9. Re:Won't 4k kill this for a while? by mentil · · Score: 2

      Not going outside without a box over my head with a QR code on it that leads to an app that lets you see a digitally-enhanced version of my face. Take that, reality!

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    10. Re: Won't 4k kill this for a while? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...wouldn't want to be seen in that sharp detail they would have to use smoothing filters (like real glass ones) so you didn't have 4k and so was a bit pointless.

      So, that's fine. 4k still has a use in really making the establishing shots pop. Just make sure those are filmed in full detail and don't be afraid to linger a little bit so the audience can take it all in.

  4. Technology Curve? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So eventually, it will work in realtime to make 60-year-olds look like teenagers?

    1. Re:Technology Curve? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      Americans have been using 60-years-old as teenagers in sitcoms for decades, so it's not really going to change anything.

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  5. New Start Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GPU accelerated skin roughning to make healthy body stereotypes again

    1. Re: New Start Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As the Japanese say:
      San Que, San que, San que, ..., and so forth

  6. Re:Probably not. by iggymanz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It looks silly to me, especially knowing the actors' real life appearance, to see a bunch of living mannequins in a movie. Even the piled on makeup opera or play performers wear looks ridiculous, they're like clowns and I must laugh.

  7. The problem... by mholve · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This technique has been used for still photography for years now, and has the same issue under video (even more so)... There's a very fine line between skin smoothing - and making it look like plastic. When it's overdone, even slightly, you do notice it, and it doesn't look right.

    1. Re:The problem... by geekmux · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This technique has been used for still photography for years now, and has the same issue under video (even more so)... There's a very fine line between skin smoothing - and making it look like plastic. When it's overdone, even slightly, you do notice it, and it doesn't look right.

      Let's be realistic here. Any amount of digital manipulation isn't going to change the shock value once you meet the actor or actress in meatspace. They're all going to look different/look older/look like shit by comparison.

      And the fact that photo manipulation is still alive and well after decades tells you the popularity in which video manipulation will be welcomed with open arms. The world is full of lies, and people love it.

    2. Re: The problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the fact that photo manipulation is still alive and well after decades tells you the popularity in which video manipulation will be welcomed with open arms. The world is full of lies, and people love it.

      Clearly people live to be manipulated

    3. Re:The problem... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      The next step should be to virtualize the concept of "celebrities" and just completely regenerate the appearance of the actors. So a filmmaker could hire anyone for the role, based solely on their ability to perform, and then switch their face and appearance in post-production to match the "star" of the film who doesn't actually exist.

      There are virtual celebrities like Hatsune Miku, but in the future they will look like real people, only perfect.

    4. Re:The problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maxx Headroom!

      Also, this (in real time) sounds like Auto-Tune for video.

    5. Re:The problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except for some. Elizabeth Montgomery comes to mind. I worked on a set with her, and she was unbelievably hotter than the characters she played.
      Others looked absolutely weird off-camera.

    6. Re:The problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I imagine it will primarily find use in HD pr0n.

  8. And it will be abused like Autotune by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Though granted, it means less time putting on makeup. No more Myspace angles!

  9. Fucking stupid by reanjr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If the resolution of movies is so high that they are essentially applying a blur filter everywher, then maybe we should back off the higher resolutions. What's the point of high res capture if you're just going to muddy the image in post processing?

    1. Re:Fucking stupid by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ...or maybe they should stop using blur filters because it is fine to see actors and actresses with a few wrinkles. However, I don't think this is a blur filter because otherwise, it will look terrible on a big movie screen where it is intended to be used.

    2. Re:Fucking stupid by Solandri · · Score: 4, Informative

      What's the point of high res capture if you're just going to muddy the image in post processing?

      In photography, the basic algorithm is to use a high-pass filter to identify high-contrast regions (places with lots of edges. Turn that into a mask and invert it. Apply a blurring algorithm to the picture, using the mask to exempt the high-contrast parts of the pic (places with lots of edges.) The final result is a pic where low-contrast surfaces (like skin and sky and blurred backgrounds) are blurred, but high-contrast edges which contain detail are untouched.

      I never liked doing it (I prefer realistic photos), but it was sometimes necessary to counter a sharpening algorithm run across the entire picture, and prevent skin blemishes from being exaggerated. Also, I found that if I first showed my female friends their photo after running it through the above algorithm, they were much less likely to threaten to kill me if I ever released that photo to the public. Who says flattery never got you anywhere?

    3. Re:Fucking stupid by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      If the resolution of movies is so high that they are essentially applying a blur filter everywher

      It is not a blur filter, and it is not being applied "everywhere". Only on skin. More specifically, only on the skin of the good people. The villains will still have bad complexions.

    4. Re:Fucking stupid by Lost+Race · · Score: 0

      When your friends threaten to kill you, there is something wrong in your life.

    5. Re:Fucking stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Much like with audio, original capture is at high res to allow use of various processes during mixing, production, and mastering. It then gets downsampled to whatever is required for distribution.

    6. Re:Fucking stupid by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      What tool(s) do you use to do that?

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    7. Re:Fucking stupid by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      If the resolution of movies is so high that they are essentially applying a blur filter everywher, then maybe we should back off the higher resolutions. What's the point of high res capture if you're just going to muddy the image in post processing?

      I suppose one point is that there are other things in a scene besides the actors' faces. Higher resolution increases the immersive impact of the entire image.

      And let's not dismiss the possibility that the art will adapt to the medium as it often has in the past (not the other way around). Maybe higher-res images of actors faces, blemishes and all, will become less of an issue if filmmakers, actors, makeup artists use high-res to give us better visual storytelling.

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    8. Re:Fucking stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's the point of high res capture if you're just going to muddy the image in post processing?

      They're only blurring the actors. Not to worry, though, product placement will remain beyond-life-like in its sharpness, and that's what really counts.

    9. Re:Fucking stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You realize that whether male or female, they're all wearing makeup anyway, right?

    10. Re: Fucking stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      muh dick.

    11. Re:Fucking stupid by careysub · · Score: 1

      One thing to recall is that the "close up" is an extremely artificial way of viewing someone. It does not exist in real life. Do you ever get inches from someone's face while they are talking (without getting smacked good and proper)?

      So doing a close-up in 8K with an actual human is going to have very unfortunate consequences unless enhancement if used, and we are used to that and expect it - we call it "make-up". But at sufficiently high resolution even physical make-up probably can't cut it.

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    12. Re:Fucking stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you ever get inches from someone's face while they are talking (without getting smacked good and proper)?

      Yes. Pretty often, but only with my wife.

    13. Re:Fucking stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When your friends threaten to kill you, there is something wrong in your life.

      Not at all, you are simply being privileged with a more accurate view of what your "friends" really are. You apparently are content to keep living in a mutual fantasy world, for as long as you can get away with it.

  10. Was this driven, like so many other technologies, by mark_reh · · Score: 1

    by the porn industry?

  11. I can see by unrealmp3 · · Score: 1

    ..the porn industry having a field day with this.

    1. Re:I can see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no amount of photoshop can salvage your abused member.

  12. Re:Probably not. by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 2

    I have no problem doing this for fiction.

    So, actually, you really don't have a problem with using it in political ads.

  13. Blur filter with motion tracking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Just what we all want, 4k footage with blurry faces.

  14. Re:Was this driven, like so many other technologie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now that's some deep learning tech!

  15. Re:Was this driven, like so many other technologie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No jackoff, it wasn't invented by your mom.

  16. Nothing new here by petes_PoV · · Score: 4, Insightful

    whether the technology creates an unrealistic expectation of having to have "perfectly smooth looking" skin

    As the article alludes, this is nothing more than a digital form of makeup. And that has been used for decades for TV and films - and even longer in the real world.

    There really aren't any additional issues here. If is simply a modern version of an old, old, tradition.

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    1. Re:Nothing new here by dryriver · · Score: 2

      Except that makeup is bound by "physical universe" constraints. Like photons bouncing off it and into the camera sensor or photochemical film. Image processing algorithms on the other hand are NOT bound by these constraints. Image processing can create "skin looks" that are practically impossible to achieve with even the best makeup. You are looking a celebs that have a "heavenly glow" or "saintly glow" to them anywhere, in all locations, under all lighting conditions. You are essentially creating "digitally enhanced Gods and Goddesses" out of slightly-better-than-ordinary looking mortals who are famous for doing whatever. People who look supernaturally amazing, always, in any situation. And of course this tech is eventually going to deliver "super beautiful skin looks" when it goes 3D-aware as well. You'll be able to play God with the specularity, reflectance, sub-surface scattering and other aspects of actor or model skin, resulting in skin that looks so "alluring" that no man or woman in real life can match it with ANY skin product. Thus lifting "celebrities" very high above "ordinary mortals" in terms of how they look. Today you can go out on the street and see real-life people who look just as good as the best looking celebs or better. Tomorrow, you may find that digitally enhanced millionaire or billionaire celebrities look so amazing that everyone else just looks tired or ugly by comparison. Is that a good thing?

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    2. Re:Nothing new here by argStyopa · · Score: 2

      It only matters until they replace the troublesome, expensive, neurotic human actors anyway.

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    3. Re:Nothing new here by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      At CES this year they demoed a special applicator that uses something like an inkjet print head and a high speed camera to apply makeup to just the pores and imperfections on your face, smoothing your skin out and making you look younger in a fairly natural way. It didn't look like heavy foundation, it was the kind of thing that you would need an expensive makeup artist for, but easy to apply in a minute or two yourself.

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    4. Re:Nothing new here by rnturn · · Score: 1

      So the makeup box from The Fifth Element is coming to a store near you?

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    5. Re:Nothing new here by mentil · · Score: 1

      Just turn on the beautification filter for your AR headset, and bam, everyone now looks like that.

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    6. Re:Nothing new here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know if you watched any movies from the 40s, but they pretty much every time applied a blur filter to the women for close up shots.

  17. Should be banned for beauty commercials by ET3D · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Anyone trying to sell a beauty product and using this should be sued.

    Other than this, yes, I think it's a problem that people can't be accepted as they are. Of course we already use makeup, etc., but if anything we should move in the direction of accepting how people look instead of trying to stylise them further.

    1. Re:Should be banned for beauty commercials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you watch the demo reel, you will see that it is being used with regards to beauty products. That is a level of deceit that should not be tolerated. If the industry cannot effectively prohibit this, then the government needs to step in.

      If you can achieve the result in the real world with your cosmetics, go ahead and do so. If the result shown requires digital effects, then it should be banned.

    2. Re:Should be banned for beauty commercials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you watch the demo reel, you will see that it is being used with regards to beauty products. That is a level of deceit that should not be tolerated.

      Because other than that, beauty product commercials are dripping with realism? What planet are you from? Oh. Venus. That explains a lot. I recommend you stop watching our commercials.

    3. Re:Should be banned for beauty commercials by TheGoodNamesWereGone · · Score: 1

      That's some strange reasoning, when makeup and beauty products themselves are an attempt to deceive...

    4. Re:Should be banned for beauty commercials by Ambvai · · Score: 1

      As I recall, there is legislation specifically in place for cosmetics that basically says 'The people featured in this ad got the results from actually using cosmetics.' There was one manufacturer a few years ago who got in trouble over accusations of this because people couldn't believe that she looked that good without digital enhancement. In the end, they got through it by documenting the process... and it really was just a good makeup job.

  18. Re: Probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hate political ads - I dont really mind seeing signs in peoples yards but on my TV it is the worst. And this technology doesnt make the ads any better.

  19. Because of high resolution? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have to wonder if the 4K revolution craze and high definition has cause people to now want a technology to hide all those imperfections the 4K exposes. Maybe just go back to filming in SD and nobody will know.

  20. Sigh by nospam007 · · Score: 2

    That's why I prefer English movies and series.
    There at least you see real people, not a bunch of 27 year old model types with fake hair, fake teeth, fake boobs and fake noses.
    That just makes it look unreal and this will make it still worse, if that is possible.

    1. Re:Sigh by helpfulcorn · · Score: 1

      Indeed, while it's been apparent for quite some time, it really slapped me in the face when I saw the first episodes of The Walking Dead and also Revolution, the people were so unrealistically good looking and well put together for living in a post-apocalyptic nightmare world with presumably limitations on health (especially in Revolution where they don't even have antibiotics or asthma medicine) that people being beyond perfect was so obnoxious that I couldn't even finish Revolution beyond the first episode, that and because the show sucked. I also stopped watching The Walking Dead in the middle of Season 2 because it got boring for me, but it wasn't nearly as bad as Revolution when it came to "sure the world as we know it is over and the conveniences of modern life are gone, but I look better than even people possibly could when society was intact, not to mention I'm immaculately groomed, and my clothes are stylish and clearly tailored."

      The remake of V was the same way, just: what the hell is going on? I realise there's a certain expectation on TV, especially American TV, but if I want to see anyone remotely "normal" looking I have to watch stuff the BBC and Channel 4 churns out.

    2. Re:Sigh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why I prefer English movies and series.
      There at least you see real people, not a bunch of 27 year old model types with fake hair, fake teeth, fake boobs and fake noses.

      Now that's an entirely different kind of Streisand effect. Except she is not English.

  21. Re:Probably not. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

    Using it in things like political ads, well, that's a different question.

    Why do you care? Do you base your vote on zit counts?

  22. Re:Probably not. by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    because young people don't have acne, moles, freckles, warts, scars etc.?

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  24. Congradulations - Humanity Morns by BrendaEM · · Score: 1

    I great computing achievement that raises the bar of illusion higher over a person's head....requiring them to use even more sophisticated solutions to try to reach it.

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  25. Take my money! by paiute · · Score: 2

    I can't wait to get a pair of Google Glasses with this software installed so I don't have to loot at your all's ugly faces anymore. Is there a setting of 11 on this menu?

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    1. Re:Take my money! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was my first thought too. How many people would pay to not see the blemishes/aging in those around them?

    2. Re:Take my money! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why use Google Glasses when you can use beer glasses for the same effect?

  26. Re:Probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nude pics, please beau. You didn't answer his question. How do we know you didn't get genital warts from your bf?

  27. How does it compare to traditional makeup? by quantaman · · Score: 1

    Actors and actresses already spend huge amounts of time in makeup, how does this method compare to that?

    Does it compound the effect of makeup so some actress in her late 40s can still get a lead role? Or is it one or the other, meaning that a lot of makeup artists will be out of work once this tech matures.

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    1. Re:How does it compare to traditional makeup? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes.

    2. Re:How does it compare to traditional makeup? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For a second I thought you meant for the general population. Imagine - all we have to do is to get everyone to wear AR headsets!

  28. Still does not give us good scripts and actors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If blemishless looks carried that kind of importance, the movies featuring supermodels wouldn't flop the way they do. This is the action movie fallacy repeated: you can fill a movie with explosions and facial closeups all you want, if you don't actually cater for a convincing plot and convincing actors, you'll bore your audience.

    This is not what "here is looking at you, kid" was about.

  29. It's not smoothing, it's blurring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The blurring effects are obvious, and they give me migraines to watch.

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  31. Re: Probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is surprising. I am used to complaints. My older friends use tons of makeup. I bet others could easily follow suit

  32. Is it a Ray Tracing revolution? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are 3 kind of 3D images:
    1. The true reality captured by the computer.
    2. The ray tracing simulated by the computer.
    3. The hologram simulated by the computer.

    How to compress the realistic images?

  33. Re:Probably not. by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2

    Apparently the best predictor of electoral success is candidate appearance (not money spent). So many people DO base their vote on zit counts. Although beautifying might not be the best idea for political ads. The predictor for US presidential elections was the candidate who looked "most presidential," which might not be the same as "youngest" or "prettiest."

  34. When making a video of your product by quonset · · Score: 5, Informative

    Make sure you include snippets of other videos which bounce around so much you can't tell what you're looking at.

    That way you can show off your product to its full effect.

  35. Re: Was this driven, like so many other technologi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Saw your mom in porn. Wrinkles zits stretch marks saggy boobs and gaping brown big lipped cunt. But she took it up the ass like a pro and did not gag on it after.

  36. after years of drug abuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can finally return to acting despite my hideously deformed face.

    Next we can alter a person's age so that childhood actors can reprise their roles 30 years later. Bring back Small Wonder!

  37. Re:Probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Using it in things like political ads, well, that's a different question.

    Why do you care? Do you base your vote on zit counts?

    Looks are a big deal.
    It wasn't a factor for me, but male beauty was a large factor in the 1960 Nixon-Kennedy election. I was not yet voting age in 1960, but it do remember the female swoon. Also, I guarantee you that had Hillary Clinton looked like Helen Mirren she would be in the White House right now.

  38. Re:Probably not. by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    The real question I have is, when can I get it as an Instagram filter?

    Better yet, can I get it installed on my date's glasses? Come to think of it, maybe it'd be better to have installed on my glasses.

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  39. Re:Probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's good to be young and not need this *giggle*

    xXx XxX xXx BeauHD xXx XxX xXx

    Also, this technology is irrelevant for those whose entire sex life is face-down.

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  41. Re:Probably not. by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    lolz no don't offer or suggest to show pics to random 54 year old guys on the internet

    your face might not be as perfect as you imagine, there is nonzero chance people with that username such as yours might have inflated opinion of themselves.

    no big pores, no wrinkles...heh......suuuuure

  42. so we no longer need actors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    step one : get rid of need for actors
    step two : create software to make voices
    step three: make places to create animations and games without AAA
    step four FREEDOM

  43. Re:Probably not. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 0

    Apparently the best predictor of electoral success is candidate appearance

    That explains AOC. Maybe I just have a thing for latinas, but I think she is hot, and a great dancer.

    Too bad she is a total bubblehead when it comes to advocating policies.

  44. Saving 4K pr0n 1 gpu cycle at a time by frazamatazzle · · Score: 1

    Does it really have any other purpose? Really?

  45. I actually use this tool. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had no idea it was so popular. I always saw it as an affordable, lower end tool that allows me to take the edge off of shots with harsher lighting. (The dreaded "Fix it in post!") I've used it with celebrities and non-celebrities, but what I do with it is more along the lines of making video, which can appear overly harsh in contrast if you don't spend a lot of money on careful lighting and makeup, look a bit more natural. I don't do beauty commercials so I'm not running into the realm of false advertising. This is mostly just interviews.

    it is very CPU/GPU intensive, so it's only enabled for final render. With my equipment, I definitely would not call it 'real time'. It's also not a magic bullet. There's a lot of adjustment to get it to work right and look natural. It's something I only pull out when I feel that someone looks less flattering on camera than they do in real life.

  46. Re: Probably not. by Albanach · · Score: 1

    Honestly it looks like watching 480p upscaled.

  47. higer res tv/movies do this by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    If everything was stuck in low def, wouldn't be a "need", but with 1080p, 2k, 4k, 8k, higher definitions make it much easier to "see the flaws". Just get rid of the overhyped "actors" and use CGI. Movies would be easier to make, without the "drama" of the overpaid hollyWEIRD crybabies.

  48. lemme get this straight by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1
    We spend all of this time and effort and money for ultra high definition, then apply blurring so people look more fuzzy?

    Sounds legit smart.

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  49. Realtime by g01d4 · · Score: 1

    I think realtime is what's significant here given the frame rates and resolution. That's an impressive amount of computation whereas historically crude analog (blur or special filters on the lens) techniques had to be used if makeup wasn't available or enough.

  50. Re: Probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or face down in a pile of shit...Rusty Trumbone style.

  51. Re: Probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bill likes petite colored girls that look 14. Explains your wifes appearance.

  52. Re: Was this driven, like so many other technolog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you even know what farm to table means?

  53. Re:Probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nobody cares about you. Everyone knows you're ugly and dumb. You're not talent.

  54. Re:Probably not. by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    I made no claims about beauty or lack dummy-tude or talent.

    Please read with more comprehension before posting. Better yet, holler up the stairs to your mommy to order you a pizza so you feel better and not so grumpy.

  55. Definition of beauty by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 1

    As if the definition of Beauty is not manipulated enough by magazines and digital retouching as it is. :|

    Whole generations of folks striving to reach the levels of Beauty their idols achieve, clueless to the fact it is all digitally and / or makeup enhanced bullshit.

  56. Re:Probably not. by SeaFox · · Score: 1

    Using it in things like political ads, well, that's a different question.

    If you're choosing a leader based on their physical attractiveness, you deserve to be disenfranchised.

  57. Shitty results. by SeaFox · · Score: 1

    The product's short demo reel is here with a few examples.

    If this supposed to be a commercial for the software it's a failure. The side-by-side results show an obvious muddy texture on the skin on the after side. If you're entire production is really soft focus, I guess it might blend in, but otherwise it looks like you hired a moron for a video compressionist.

  58. Re:Probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bubblehead? What the everloving fuck are you talking about. She is freaking awesome.

  59. Uncanny valley by jrumney · · Score: 1

    Is this step one in getting us used to accepting the visual uncanny valley (autotune has already done this for audio)? When it gets to the point where we cannot tell the difference between a real actor and an animation on the screen, will Hollywood go the same way as Detroit?

  60. Fuck Hollywood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let people look ugly, that is how the world is. All this unattainable beauty portrayed by Hollywood ruins peoples self image.

  61. Webcams will get more freaky by TJHook3r · · Score: 1

    Maybe we can all maintain a facade by webcam? Perfect Tinder date, perfect salesperson or camgirl.... as long as we never meet in the flesh. Think my cyberpunk reading list is coming true!

  62. This is all just the ... by rnturn · · Score: 1

    ... CGI-ification of human actors so that, in the future when movie studio profits need a boost, they can get rid of the human actors altogether---by then we won't recognize the difference. There's no Actor's Guild pay scale like no pay at all.

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  63. Re:Probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It looks silly to me, especially knowing the actors' real life appearance, to see a bunch of living mannequins in a movie.

    Sure, but sooner or later it will all be new blood that you haven't seen without the filters.

    Eventually they can start using actors for their acting skills since the appearance is just something you pick in the filter selection menu.

  64. Re:Probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We've been automating this for years (and moving it to the GPU isn't really worth it tbh - it's just a one shot process on the incoming plates). It's not actually done as a beautification process, it's done to avoid continuity errors. A film may be shot over a number of days/weeks/months (and that's before we even talk about reshoots), and those shots need to work together.

    There is one famous actress that springs to mind (who isn't actually all that concerned about her own appearance), but when we edited the plates together into the final running order, the pimples would be jumping all over the place. It's jarring, and distracting. So that's the reason we automate the removal process....

  65. Re:Probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You think political ads aren't already retouched?

    The only thing this changes is that live video feeds can be changed.
    It is going to be jarring when the talk-show doesn't use the same filter as the ad.
    I'm not so sure it is going to be beneficial for politicians to use this.

    Sounds more like something that is going to be used in movies to cut time in makeup.
    Well, that and any ad where you sell a product and not a person.

  66. Re:Probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Using it in things like political ads, well, that's a different question.

    Why do you care? Do you base your vote on zit counts?

    There is a pretty sizable part of the population that would never vote on people based on their skin color.
    While not exactly the same thing as zit count it isn't far off.

  67. Re:Probably not. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

    Bubblehead? What the everloving fuck are you talking about. She is freaking awesome.

    I agree that she is awesome, and I agree with her on some issues.

    But when she talks, listen to the details. Write down the numbers. Then go to Google and do a reality check. Many of the "facts" she rattles off are off by a factor of ten or more. And some of her policy proposals are what destroyed Venezuela. She is reality challenged.

  68. Re:Probably not. by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

    We've actually been doing this for decades, it's called a soft-focus filter, they've been used to make people's faces look better since at least the 1920s. Before that, you just left the lens slightly unfocused. So this is just an expensive GPU-accelerated (and thus hype-attracting) way of doing what you could do with a bit of glass for over a hundred years.

  69. Photo restoration by Waccoon · · Score: 1

    About 10 years ago I was doing photo restoration in a small camera store. I had a large stock of noise/texture patterns to put back into photographs after retouching them so they didn't look too perfect. Even modern retouching tools meant for still photographs don't do that well, so I'm not surprised these "AI" video tools do such a bad job.

  70. Not much use for the big screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The software company's demo reel looks like shit. As someone who's worked in (low-budget, low-scale) films, I seriously doubt that any self-respecting film production would use it, much less a major Hollywood studio. Some "A"-list stars would probably sue the producers if they saw their faces digitally blurred like that without having approved of the procedure in their contracts.

    There are many better ways of smoothing actors' skin: good lenses, soft lighting, lens filters, subtle make-up. In good hands, they all yield amazing results with very little effort and at negligible extra cost.

    I think this software was designed for TV, music videos and ads, where the producers can get away with it either because the whole show is of shit quality (live TV) or because the final image is so artificial that everything looks computer-generated and will probably be watched on small screens anyway. But I seriously doubt it would be of much use for the cinema.

  71. Just what our culture needs by saboosh · · Score: 1

    Oh great, this will make the girls on this planet even more insecure and boys have even more unrealistic expectations... just what we need :(.. Why cant we all just be ok with who we are exactly as we are? I love technology but this is just adding to a cultural phenomenon that is already pretty sick.

  72. Yet another technology built on proprietary GPUs by themusicgod1 · · Score: 1

    nt

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  73. Really rather sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We are a sad little species at times, aren't we? Vain, self obsessed and unpleasant. Don't get me wrong, some people have serious anxiety about their appearance and maybe a toned down version of this over a video chat might help but sooner or later the world must see you as you really are. I remember seeing Joan Collins in the 90's, perfect hair and face but her hands were always out of shot, when you did see them they were exactly what you expected for a woman of her age.

    What we need is to change attitudes, not change appearances. We cast off women of a certain age they're once perfect porcelein skin blemishes with age. A man gets older he becomes "rugged". Change attitudes, not appeareances and maybe we might evolve.

  74. Re:Probably not. by baegucb · · Score: 1

    old school technology: beer goggles, is likely cheaper

  75. beauty plug-in mislead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've worked on a number of projects and know a number of facilities that do "beauty" work. None that I have worked at or know use this plug-in. Working on high-visibility projects needs a more professional touch than using a sledgehammer of a blur to make people look "younger". I'm sure there are plenty of corporate and quick edit pieces that may use this, but as has been commented it's a bit obvious.

  76. Unrealism... by bradley13 · · Score: 1

    It strikes me that this is related to the pushback against high frame rate movies. Apparently a substantial segment of people like 24fps, because of the "cinematic feel" it gives you. It's an artifact left from a previous age, but some people want to preserve the lack of realism it portrays.

    Hiding actors freckles and blemishes is perhaps part of the same mentality. I remember when HDTV first came out: I was struck by the fact that I could actually see the wrinkles and freckles and little blemishes on people's faces. Apparently this is unwanted - too much realism?

    It's also probably sheer egotism on the part of Hollywood & Co.. An actor or actress is no one special - they just have a talent for playing pretend in a convincing way. Yet they feel entitled to tell us all about their views on politics and society, and how we should live our lives. They think they know better. They certainly don't want us to see that they are just people with zits and wrinkles, like everyone else - that might dent their mystique.

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  77. Re:Probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For TV shows and movies, it doesn't concern me in the slightest. Movie stars have always been chosen for their looks, physique and so forth; they are supposed to be archetypal after all. Using it in things like political ads, well, that's a different question. The difference is that between the intent to deceive (the latter) and the suspension of disbelief (the former). I have no problem doing this for fiction.

    There's a different between picking people that look good and putting them on TV and picking people that look good and then enhance them to unnatural levels before putting them on TV. Most people see more people on screens that they do with their real eyes. It already warps the perception of reality and it will only get more warped in the future.

    Personally I can't wait for cyborg eyes so we finally will see a world that meets our expectations.

  78. not just faces by sad_ · · Score: 1

    it doesn't only work for faces, but the video also shows hands, complete bodies and...

    paper.

    in the youtube video one person is holding a wrinkled paper and in the 'processed' stream the paper is very much less wrinkled.

    i think the whole thing is stupid, if you need to modify people so much, might as well just use complete digital models instead.

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  79. Can I run it in reverse? by gshegosh · · Score: 1

    I want an algorithm that'll take these artificial faces and make them look real again.

  80. It's only for sad people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "whether the technology creates an unrealistic expectation of having to have "perfectly smooth looking" skin to look attractive, particularly in people who are past their teenage years."

    It can only "create" an "unrealistic expectation" among people who don't actually interact with real human beings...

  81. Re:Probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    She is a great dancer.

    "Outstanding, Private Pyle! I think we have finally found something that you do well."

  82. Honesty in pictures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't like this idea one bit because it is just another way of creating "dishonest photographs". Now they are changing skin texture/tone, but wait until they start changing body proportions, waist sizes, etc. In real time. (This is where I really hope bad Photoshopping comes in; Imagine a celebrity ending up with a freakishly small waist and super broad shoulders on live TV, and all of the embarrasment and gossip this will cause).

    Yes, dishonest photographs existed scince the dawn of photography, but to be able to do this with video, in real time, with little or no human intervention is very disturbing. Wait until this becomes consumer grade and gets used to frame somebody for someone else's crime.

  83. Re:Probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Using it in things like political ads, well, that's a different question.

    If you're choosing a leader based on their physical attractiveness, you deserve to be disenfranchised.

    At least one thing you cannot blame Trump voters for.

  84. Re:Probably not. by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

    I would agree with "bubblehead". It's like they elected a college sophomore who took one poli-sci class and thinks she knows everything. Yes, I'm aware of her alleged degrees.

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