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'This Time It's Russia's Emails Getting Leaked' (thedailybeast.com)

"Russian oligarchs and Kremlin apparatchiks may find the tables turned on them," writes Kevin Poulsen at The Daily Beast, reporting on a new leak site that's unleashed "a compilation of hundreds of thousands of hacked emails and gigabytes of leaked documents."

"Think of it as WikiLeaks, but without Julian Assange's aversion to posting Russian secrets."

Slashdot reader hyades1 shared their report: The site, Distributed Denial of Secrets, was founded last month by transparency activists. Co-founder Emma Best said the Russian leaks, slated for release Friday, will bring into one place dozens of different archives of hacked material that, at best, have been difficult to locate, and in some cases appear to have disappeared entirely from the web. "Stuff from politicians, journalists, bankers, folks in oligarch and religious circles, nationalists, separatists, terrorists operating in Ukraine," said Best, a national-security journalist and transparency activist. "Hundreds of thousands of emails, Skype and Facebook messages, along with lots of docs...."

The site is a kind of academic library or a museum for leak scholars, housing such diverse artifacts as the files North Korea stole from Sony in 2014, and a leak from the Special State Protection Service of Azerbaijan.

The site's Russia section already includes a leak from Russia's Ministry of the Interior, portions of which detailed the deployment of Russian troops to Ukraine at a time when the Kremlin was denying a military presence there. Though some material from that leak was published in 2014, about half of it wasn't, and WikiLeaks reportedly rejected a request to host the files two years later, at a time when Julian Assange was focused on exposing Democratic Party documents passed to WikiLeaks by Kremlin hackers. "A lot of what WikiLeaks will do is organize and re-publish information that's appeared elsewhere," said Nicholas Weaver, a researcher at the University of California at Berkeley's International Computer Science Institute. "They've never done that with anything out of Russia."

The Russian documents were posted simultaneously on the DDoSecrets website and on the Internet Archive, notes the New York Times, adding that the new site has also posted a large archive of internal documents from WikiLeaks itself.

"Personally, I am disappointed by what I see as dishonest and egotistic behavior from Julian Assange and WikiLeaks," Best tells the Times. "But she added that she had made the Russian document collection available to WikiLeaks ahead of its public release on Friday, and had posted material favorable to Mr. Assange leaked from the Ecuadorean Embassy in London, where he has lived for more than six years to avoid arrest."

215 comments

  1. The Week That Was by PopeRatzo · · Score: 0, Troll

    As if Trump's week couldn't get any worse.

    First Nancy strapped one on and pegged his ass in front of the whole world, then his pal Roger Stone gets the "Whatcha gonna do when they come for you" treatment and now this.

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    1. Re:The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And your little dog too! Oh how the mighty (bitch traitors) have fallen...

    2. Re:The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Frosty Piss was 100% immediate Trump Derail. Slashdot: 2019.

      Captcha: maimed.

    3. Re:The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe you should get your head checked.

    4. Re:The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As if Trump's week couldn't get any worse.

      Why would he care about this? There's nothing about Trump in them. The article doesn't even make that connection. It's a bunch of stuff about internal Russian politics. If you were hoping for some smoking gun about Russian involvement in the US election - this isn't it.

      First Nancy strapped one on and pegged his ass in front of the whole world,

      You know, I really love the homophobia that the left constantly displays while at the same time lecturing everyone about tolerance and acceptance. The double standard is just - amazing.

    5. Re:The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You moron. "Look over there, they are the bad guys."

    6. Re:The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah there is. Individual 1 and Organization 1 are now linked via 1 degree of separation, Mr. Willing-to-bluff-and-lie Robert Punkass Traitor Stone.

    7. Re: The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump was believing the liars, aka Putin and friends, at the time when Ukraine was being invaded by Russian troops... shows how biased and Putin supporting Trump was and shows how the oligarchs are all Putin cronies who have no interest in the peopleâ(TM)s interest and, the real shocker is these oligarchs are responsible for the murder and deaths of civilians in the Ukraine and when they invaded Crimea.

      So there you have it, Putin and his Oligarchs are murderous assholes who disrespect international laws, and his own treaties with the Ukraine on the integrity of their borders.

      Let us ser what Putin and his gang of thugs do now that all their lies are available for the Russian people to see.

    8. Re: The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Err whack!

    9. Re:The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "And here's a mountain of vetted, corroborated and cross-linked evidence that points to the bitch traitor Donald Prison Jumpsuit Drumpf. Enjoy prison FAGGOT, if they don't HANG YOU FOR TREASON that is! Ahaha, bitch traitors."

      -Mueller, laughing last.

    10. Re:The Week That Was by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Informative

      You know, I really love the homophobia

      Pegging is not homosexual. It is a perfectly normal activity between a man and a woman. At least that's what my wife keeps telling me.

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    11. Re:The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You let Peggy and the boys go for a hike up old dirt creek? Wow, you're way more Libertarian than I thought!

    12. Re: The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Zero indictments related to collusion. Zero.

      Process crimes from an investigation that found no crimes... Welcome to the dystopian future democrats have made for us.

    13. Re:The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You really want me to explain it to you?

      The image you're invoking, of Trump being "pegged" by Pelosi, is intended to double-humiliate Trump, first by having him be "dominated" by a woman, and secondly by having it being done in a traditionally homosexual fashion. It relies on pegging being seen as being negative, and part of that is cultural homophobia about anal sex. It's also misogynistic, because it also relies on Trump being humiliated by a woman, and that relies on the idea of a woman in power being "wrong." Although you can sort of wriggle your way out of that by pretending it's only that from Trump's point of view.

      Not so much the "pegging" part. If it were perfectly normal, you wouldn't be using that image, because the entire point of your statement is to humiliate Trump. It relies on homophobia in order to "work."

      But it's pretty normal for the left to preach "tolerance" and "acceptance" and then demonstrate by words and deeds that they mean none of that. Just look at the abuse Kamala Harris is taking from the left over her potential 2020 run.

    14. Re:The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you saying Trump is a figure of "tolerance" and "acceptance" and he's being unfairly humiliated as a minority? That's really an amazing scoop, thanks Fox News faggot traitors. You really know how to stir the bullshit soup.

    15. Re:The Week That Was by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      The image you're invoking, of Trump being "pegged" by Pelosi, is intended to double-humiliate Trump, first by having him be "dominated" by a woman, and secondly by having it being done in a traditionally homosexual fashion.

      Again, pegging is not a "traditionally homosexual fashion". And there's no shame in enjoying being dominated sexually by a woman. You should try it sometime. Trump himself enjoyed being spanked with a rolled up magazine by Stormy Daniels.

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    16. Re:The Week That Was by PopeRatzo · · Score: 0

      The heart wants what the heart wants.

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    17. Re: The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A male being on the receiving end of anal sex is traditionally homosexual. Now that it's been spelled out for you, are you still going to maintain a state of willful ignorance and hypocrisy?

    18. Re: The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it's a women involved it isn't homosexual bunk. Don't deny it until you try it, so they say.

    19. Re: The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why did they all decide that it was better to lie to Congress and the FBI than to tell the truth. That's the question.

      And why did he threaten witnesses? What's he hiding?

    20. Re: The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is really coming across as your issue, not the original posters.

    21. Re:The Week That Was by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      News flash: On the west coast, pegging is perfectly normal. Has been for decades.

      All manner of sexual appetites between consenting adults are perfectly normal, and you insistence otherwise is simply anti-human.

      If you want to discover how intollerant you are, just come out to the west coast and visit an "adult store." And then visit 5 or 10 more just to double-check that you weren't in an unusual one the first time; every neighborhood for 1000 miles sells tools for the mentioned activities, because they are perfectly normal activities that consenting adults engage in.

      You mind me of the people in the 1980s who were trying to argue that an accepting attitude towards tattoos is harmful to the people getting tattoos, because you had a fantasy where in the end they regret it. But no, up is not down, tolerance is not oppression.

      Trump got pegged by Pelosi because she's an alpha, and he's a beta. And his followers are zetas, that's why they didn't know who was who until they saw the santorum spray. Decent people don't care about either part, it is merely funny. Experiencing revulsion or outrage simply tells you that you have internalized bigotry and stereotypes. Don't project that onto others, just try to find a way to deal with it and be more of the person you wished you were.

    22. Re: The Week That Was by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      It is OK if you accidentally had that fantasy while she was pegging you. It probably doesn't mean you're gay, but only you can answer that.

      Either way, it is OK. Accept your feelings, they are yours alone, and they're potentially your most valuable possession. That's up to you, though.

    23. Re: The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny how the Right assumes pegging is a gay thing. Tip: Gay men don't need a peg.

      And we're all down with hot lez on lez action.

      But this story is about corrupt Russia politicians being propped up by Putin stealing from the hard working and oft abused Russia people. Some of those poor bastards have to post on Slashdot for their potato.

    24. Re: The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Zero indictments related to collusion. Zero."

      Who cares, Al Capone went to prison for tax fraud. That's what Trump will go to jail for as well.
      We don't care as long as he dies there.

    25. Re:The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stage III of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

      This stage is marked by the inability to differentiate between things that have something to do with President Donald Trump and things that don't have anything to do with President Donald Trump. Without prompt treatment you should reach Stage IV and this is when things get serious. Your days will be consumed with writing the letters T, R, U, M and P on any flat surface using crayons and your own feces.

    26. Re:The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fuck off you god damn traitor

    27. Re: The Week That Was by subie · · Score: 1

      Far too many of my fellow Democrats seem to have come down with TDS lately. The reality is that Pelosi and Schumer did nothing but block everything while the President at least tried to negotiate with them. Now the situation we have is the government is temporarily open until Feb. 15th. where it might get shut down again because of Pelosi and Schumer's hated of Trump. 2008, Pelosi stated she wanted a wall, 2009 Schumer did the same, and of course in 2014 Hillary stated that she wanted to build a wall while on the campaign trail. With a budget of 4.whatever trillion dollars, 5.7 billion is a burp and we need to improve security on the southern border. Anyone saying otherwise is just plan ignorant, a liar, or both. Constantly posting the same anti trump rhetoric has become meaningless on slashdot. You keep doing a copy paste job with zero insight. Trump will not be impeached snd Pelosi has said as much. Rodger Stone is being charged with lying to Congress and has no connection to trump beyond that no matter how much you wish.

    28. Re: The Week That Was by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Rodger Stone

      That's my porn name. Don't wear it out.

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    29. Re: The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because they are retarded, were scared, or genuinely didn't recall correctly and said the wrong thing.

      Other people like Brennan and Clapper lied under oath to congress, but their home was never raided by jackboots. Laws are applied differently if you're not in the political cult of the Left.

    30. Re:The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember when Obama wanted to jam his healthcare law down our throats, and the republicans, in total lockstep, blocked everything they could at every turn? They were called the party of "no" and obstructionists.

      Now the Dems do the same thing, except even worse because they're now suddenly blocking something they previously voted for and said they wanted. Their reason? Because their candidate lost the 2016 election.

      Your response? To cheer and brag and act like some big victory was obtained. The hypocrisy of the American left is positively limitless.

    31. Re: The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. Your porn name is Cuck Blew-mer because it's difficult any woman could be married to you for decades without desperate need of penetration from an actual human male. You, of course, would watch while blaming Trump. You'd even demand your wife's bull get an orange spray tan.

      You know Pope, it kills me with how blatantly partisan you ALWAYS are, because I've read many of your posts over many years and I know you can think like an actual reasoning individual. Why does that break down totally when politics is involved?

    32. Re: The Week That Was by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I've read many of your posts over many years and I know you can think like an actual reasoning individual.

      You've confused me with someone else.

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    33. Re:The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The plan the Senate wrote, which the GOP called 'Obamacare', was at least 90% of what the Republican party claimed to support as recently as the McCain campaign. If anything the Obama administration dragged out the whole process to address Republican concerns at the state level.

    34. Re:The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mueller has 0 credibility when it comes to wikileaks

      https://canadafreepress.com/article/robert-muellers-has-record-of-faming-his-quarries

      Robert Mueller was FBI Director in 2011 when the planeload of FBI agents was sent to Iceland, one year before the second election of Barack Hussein Obama as POTUS

      Jonasson revealed that U.S. authorities first told him in June 2011 that there was an ‘imminent attack’ on Iceland’s government databases; that they were sending the FBI to the rescue.

      But he claims that when the FBI arrived in August, the FBI ‘sought Iceland’s cooperation to frame Assange and WikiLeaks’ in a mission that was part of a ‘wide-ranging investigation’ into Assange and WikiLeaks’.

      Savvy to their real intention that had nothing to do with saving government database cyber attacks, Jonasson’s response was to have the FBI kicked out of Iceland.

    35. Re: The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Tolerant" West Coast Corporate Progressives sure do love fantasizing about vengeful anal rape.

    36. Re:The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You make Mueller sound like a hateful homophobe with a personal vendetta against the president. That's both derogatory and libelous.

      Perhaps you should work through your personal issues offline?

    37. Re: The Week That Was by PopeRatzo · · Score: 0

      "Tolerant" West Coast Corporate Progressives sure do love fantasizing about vengeful anal rape.

      As the Kovington Katholic Kids in the MAGA hats chanted last week, "It's not rape if you enjoy it".

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    38. Re: The Week That Was by kqs · · Score: 3, Informative

      The reality is that Pelosi and Schumer did nothing but block everything while the President at least tried to negotiate with them.

      The situation was:
          * Democrats, Republicans, and the White house negotiated a deal in December where $1.6B was put in the budget to improve border security. This was to cover a bunch of things that would actually make the border more secure, but would not cover a wall. Note also that this was when Republicans controlled the house.
          * The senate passed this budget deal with a total of 94-6 or so.
          * Some right wing pundits complained that Trump was backing away from his promise.
          * Trump reneged on the budget deal and decided he would accept nothing but $5.7B for the wall, no other options, no negotiating.
          * Paul Ryan refused to bring the budget deal it to a vote in the House.
          * The shutdown started.

      Honest question: do you disagree with these facts? If so, what did I get wrong? And if not, how does this involve Pelosi blocking and Trump negotiating?

    39. Re: The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't they lie to protect the bad shit the US government was doing, as opposed to helping Russia attack the US? It's kind of "my team" vs the "other team".

    40. Re:The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Leave it to a right winger to misconstrue a non-homophobic remark as "OMG it's SO HOMOPHOBIC!". Also the same with racism. "IT'S NOT RACIST TO WANT TO GENOCIDE NON-WHITE PEOPLE, BUT HELPING NON-WHITE PEOPLE? NOW THAT'S THE REAL RACISM!!!1!"

    41. Re:The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you for vividly illustrating why the right is completely incapable of logic, reason, science, math, language, or anything that relies on any sort of working cause and effect. Your projection is not evidence of anything except your own projection. Your entire post is proof of how little you understand about anything. You can't just call things whatever you want, even when they are provably not that, and expect anyone to do anything but laugh at you. This is why the right is known around the world for being vastly ignorant, and why they are rapidly disappearing from STEM fields.

    42. Re: The Week That Was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realize nobody believes you're a democrat, right? You make the mistake of assuming everyone else just listens to the words instead of following the actions, like all right wingers do. Effective adult humans ignore the words and only follow the actions, which is how we discover that Trump and almost every right winger are completely full of shit. And you've outed yourself as one because you're too dumb to realize the prime difference between far right bootlickers and normal human beings.

      TL,DR: if you want to trick people, you can't use tricks that only work on right wingers.

    43. Re: The Week That Was by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      You don't even sound progressive to me. Is this what the AM radio told you progressives think, or did you learn about it at the bar?

  2. The files from Sony contain PII and PHI by Beeftopia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's all kinds of PII and PHI in that stolen information.

    I'm sure these folks don't care, because, like Assange, they're trolls. When they're helping your side, they're described with superlatives. When they're harming your side, they're described with expletives. They don't care. They just do what they do for their own personal reasons.

    1. Re:The files from Sony contain PII and PHI by hey! · · Score: 1

      I'm sure these folks don't care, because, like Assange, they're trolls.

      Now trolls with shortened life expectancy.

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    2. Re:The files from Sony contain PII and PHI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That PII thing is quite the scam! When will that breach be on the Front Page?

    3. Re:The files from Sony contain PII and PHI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only side that matters is the one that kills Vladimir Putin. That monster needs to die ASAP.

    4. Re:The files from Sony contain PII and PHI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When they're helping your side, they're described with superlatives. When they're harming your side, they're described with expletives. They don't care. They just do what they do for their own personal reasons.

      The reasons they don't care are the interesting ones. If it is because they think, it's all fine if we get the judges, or its all fine, if its our team, well they cannot be reached. The first group has probably been indoctrinated to take stuff on faith and ignore contradictory information, and well, the second group pretty much does that too.

      You have the ones that actually believe the shit that is being shoveled. They might be reachable, but most tend to not be too intellectually curious. Explanations for them will tend to make more sense if you dumb it down to a sound byte, even though reality is more complex. This group, but all of them really, particularly likes if you can give them an enemy from which to blame everything on.

      The entire country should have reacted in horror when he tried to make Mexicans the enemy and mocking laughter when he said, "They would pay!" (for the wall). It didn't, and that says something about us, but nothing good.

       

    5. Re:The files from Sony contain PII and PHI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Y'all realize you're following an article by Kevin Poulsen, right?

    6. Re:The files from Sony contain PII and PHI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stolen property is stolen property, surprised this is legal.

  3. Proof, Citation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Think of it as WikiLeaks, but without Julian Assange's aversion to posting Russian secrets."

    The heck? Citation needed, EditorDavid...

    1. Re:Proof, Citation? by AlanObject · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The heck? Citation needed, EditorDavid...

      I second this. However I'll wait until Glenn Greenwald checks in on this. If anyone can find a way to excuse Julian Assange he can.

      Personally I have become disenchanted with Assange in various ways. He could have contributed so much more than he did but he persisted in making dumb choices, making it hard for the right people to take him seriously.

    2. Re: Proof, Citation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There have been numerous leaks exposing Russian misbehavior, all of which are conspicuously absent from Wikileaks. Some of which are discussed in the fucking summary if you want a "citation."
      Wikileaks was an awesome idea, and then Assange destroyed it when he let his ego get the best of him and turned it into an anti American disinformation machine.

    3. Re: Proof, Citation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The reason he did so is because he viewed the US as beholden to powerful international foreign anti-journalist criminal interests like Saudi Arabia and Israel and wanted to expose the worldwide surveillance was being used for evil.

      When Snowden leaked that trove and Assange became a pariah-with-teeth, he became an enemy of the state+8. That became a consuming distraction for him as... it probably would for most people. He's very human, flawed.

      I do think at one point they could have called him an independent journalist hack who didn't play by any rules but his own, but that's not much of a title or compliment really. Still, wikileaks did both good and bad things.

      To assume it's all black or white is to have no idea about how things really are. It's always both.

    4. Re: Proof, Citation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read the rest of the summary for your citation, dumbass.

    5. Re:Proof, Citation? by Desler · · Score: 1

      The heck? Citation needed, EditorDavid...

      Why would he need to post a citation for someone else's statement? You do know what quote markers mean, right?

    6. Re:Proof, Citation? by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      We're sorry, but EditorDavid is not the author of TFA.

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    7. Re: Proof, Citation? by CaptainDork · · Score: 4, Informative

      You are correct, and there's a little more:

      1.) Assange began his high profile association with Wikileaks as a spokesperson, only. That essentially made him immune to legal action because he made it clear he did not have anything to do with the internals of WL.

      Later, when pissed off governments wanted his young ass, he changed his job description to, "journalist," in an effort to be immune by way of freedom of the press.

      2.) WL itself fell off the radar and had very little in the way of exciting revelations and donations fell dramatically. They stepped back into the news cycle by violating their own strict rules of conduct by creating publicity prior to data releases.

      Donors didn't bite and WL went to hell.

      I've studied both Wikileaks and Assange for years and I admired their first efforts but that all soured when Assage's ego and WL's financials went in opposite directions.

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    8. Re:Proof, Citation? by VeryFluffyBunny · · Score: 0

      Just because Assange appears to be a narcissistic asshole, that doesn't mean he hasn't done something incredibly valuable for journalism. Let's not shoot the messenger or distract ourselves from his achievements by focusing exclusively on his personality flaws. That's what the establishments would love us to do.

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    9. Re: Proof, Citation? by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      Your #2 is rather strange, considering that WL was deplatformed from almost every payment system in existence very rapidly under pressure.

    10. Re:Proof, Citation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, this is hysterical insanity of the highest order. Wikileaks has released a TON of stuff about Russia over the years. They have a whole section devoted to Russia on their website!

      https://wikileaks.org//spyfiles/russia/

    11. Re: Proof, Citation? by CaptainDork · · Score: 2

      No commodity of any kind, way, shape or form is unfundable on the Internet. You know that. Look at Silk Road.

      The payment methods you mention are outdated. If that were not true, the Dark Web would have no market.

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    12. Re: Proof, Citation? by Viol8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "The reason he did so is because he viewed the US as beholden to powerful international foreign anti-journalist criminal interests like Saudi Arabia and Israel and wanted to expose the worldwide surveillance was being used for evil."

      Unlike the Russian government which is all teddy bears and moonbeams and under no circumstances would they shut down non governmental media outlets and order the extra judicial murders of journalists or poison former citizens on foreign soil. No no , not at all. Squeaky clean is Putin.

      Its fucking incredible that in the 21st century there are still pathetic Russian apologists in the west no matter what the Russians do. Whilst the Russia people are no better or worse than anyone else in the world, their politicians are and have been for at least 100 years, psychopathic scumbags who will literally do anything to gain and keep power.

    13. Re:Proof, Citation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because he's done things valuable to journalism does not absolve him of all other things though. I agree the "no condom rape" bullshit was a ridiculous excuse... but still.

    14. Re: Proof, Citation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Totally wrong. Whether knowingly or not, your just part of the smear campaign against Assange. It's obvious why Wikileaks would get more information from more open and freer countries. The US is certainly not nice to whistleblowers but that's no comparison to Russia where even merely critical journalists are murdered if they cannot be intimidated.

    15. Re: Proof, Citation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Russia is Russia. It's evil at such a scale that anyone who pays any sort of attention knows it because Russia itself does such a horrible job hiding it, often because it thinks what it's doing isn't evil. The same can be said for China. But the US is different in that most often it goes to great pains to hide what it does precisely because it knows how evil its actions are and how much rebuke in a "democracy" that it would do the same sort of evil things that Russia or China would do. Any reasonable person knows the horror that is Russia or China. There's no need for a Wikileaks to shine a light on Russia/China, unless you want to show that the cracks that appear are but the smallest bit of the chasms that are the norm.

      At least, that's my reading of things.

    16. Re: Proof, Citation? by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Squeaky clean is Putin.

      "I would have expected better from British boys," said the officer.

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    17. Re: Proof, Citation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its fucking incredible that in the 21st century there are still pathetic Russian apologists in the west no matter what the Russians do.

      It's fucking incredible there are still dumb as fuck boomers who think Russia is even worth discussion. A third-rate fallen power who can't threaten anyone but their former satellite states, oooh, scary.

      So, yeah, there's a reason organizations like Wikileaks focus on the world's only superpower.

    18. Re: Proof, Citation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Assange is no dummy, he knew the oligarchy in Russia wasn't going to be subjected to pressure and change - America though, is a different story.

    19. Re: Proof, Citation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BUT WHUDDABOUT RUSSIA

    20. Re:Proof, Citation? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      If you want people to celebrate him, you're going to have to shoot him, because alive he's a participant in events, not some sort of "messenger."

    21. Re: Proof, Citation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are sick, man, unless what you write is a parody.

    22. Re: Proof, Citation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This.
      He is not a Messenger.
      He's a Player.
      As such he lost his credibility.

    23. Re: Proof, Citation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They do a great job transferring Hillaries Terrorists to their 72 virgins in Syria.

    24. Re: Proof, Citation? by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      What is the portion of people out of all users of internet that know how to pay on dark web sites?

      It works for determined people buying illegal shit and willing to jump through a lot of hoops and pay a lot for processing their payment. It doesn't work for everyone else.

      Bitchute is a site aimed at "everyone else". Ergo, the problem.

    25. Re: Proof, Citation? by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      The subject is Wikileaks.

      Die-hard fans were able to donate plenty post-mainstream payment ban. Not enough people wanted to.

      Why should they? You know as well as I do that people's attention span lasts only as long as the lightning strike.

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    26. Re: Proof, Citation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering how easily Saudi Arabia got away with murdering a Washington Post journalist with Trump in charge, I really have to wonder what Assange's goal really was. He is either incredibly incompetent or his goal is actually the opposite of what you say.

      dom

    27. Re:Proof, Citation? by mukinrestak · · Score: 1

      A quick glance through wikileaks shows quite a lot of russian secrets. EditorDavid seems to have drank the koolaid.

    28. Re: Proof, Citation? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      The reason he did so is because he viewed the US as beholden to powerful international foreign anti-journalist criminal interests like Saudi Arabia and Israel and wanted to expose the worldwide surveillance was being used for evil.

      Yah, no, Assange has no beliefs. He's just an attention whole who needs a transfusion of capital from time to time.

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    29. Re:Proof, Citation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Along with several other posters and people with moderation points, which could just be EditorDavid doing damage control with his unlimited moderation capacity.

    30. Re: Proof, Citation? by Viol8 · · Score: 1

      So you think russia has decommisioned its nuclear arsenal? You're a fucking clown.

    31. Re: Proof, Citation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beautiful and completely deceptive narrative. It is evident donations are uncorrelated with account blocking:
      - https://www.theguardian.com/media/2010/oct/14/wikileaks-says-funding-is-blocked ;
      - https://wikileaks.org/Banking-Blockade.html ;
      - https://www.techspot.com/news/71764-wikileaks-thanks-us-government-blocking-credit-card-donations.html .

      Dear Shill, what are your affiliations? Best regards.

    32. Re: Proof, Citation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He started off being rather nation-neutral, but the United States decided to ruin his life and force him into a broom closet for nearly a decade, for the crime of making a fool out of the United States.

      Naturally, he's absolutely entitled to direct and focus his talents and his priorities towards fucking over the people who fucked him over. If it were you, you'd feel the same way. Don't pretend like you wouldn't.

    33. Re: Proof, Citation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Got away with it? Dude, they created a shitstorm of an international incident. The whole world was pissed off at Saudi Arabia for that. I don't think Saudi Arabia is going to recover from that P.R. hit for quite some time.

    34. Re: Proof, Citation? by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      My affiliations are hugging the goddam Internet since its birth.

      You're what I call a linksta. You throw a lot of links you know I won't read because I've been studying this since it surfaced.

      Your links aren't going to add value to my real-time follow.

      And, I already answered your redundant question.

      Stop popping and start hopping.

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    35. Re: Proof, Citation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you obtuse? By not hiding personal details, they put the lives of agents in danger and some even killed. If your friend is killed because some ego bitch couldn't black something out, you'd have a hate-on for them as well.

    36. Re: Proof, Citation? by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      Because non-diehard fans are likely the bulk of donors, and their activity would drive a lot of people interested in seeing the curated English leaks that wikileaks specializes in. Which in turn would have prevented the current insane narrative of them being an agent of Russian government. The only reason that stuck to some extent, is because there aren't enough people invested in wikileaks to debunk the narrative to their friends when US propaganda machine spun on to do its thing.

      Deplatforming ensured that this amount of people would not be allowed to get invested into wikileaks, and support would be limited to die-hard fans only.

  4. Don't worry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's okay, Donaldovsky will protect you, Daddy Putin.

  5. Assange vs. Russia by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 0

    Julian Assange's aversion to posting Russian secrets

    That's news to me. What's the reason behind his reluctance to touch anything out of Russia?

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    1. Re: Assange vs. Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He has strict morals like all the other douchebags we keep getting saddled with

    2. Re:Assange vs. Russia by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's news to me. What's the reason behind his reluctance to touch anything out of Russia?

      It's called "Polonium-210"
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...

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    3. Re:Assange vs. Russia by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Funny

      Black Russian: Kahlua & Vodka.

      White Russian: Kahlua & Vodka & Cream.

      Dead Russian: Polonium & Novichok.

      Garnish with an umbrella swizzle stick laced with Ricin.

      Although, considering what Saudi Arabia was allowed to do to Jamal Khashoggi . . . this really isn't something we should be making fun of . . .

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    4. Re:Assange vs. Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump should get the same treatment for giving cover to murderers of US journalists. HANG THE TRAITOR

    5. Re:Assange vs. Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is none. These people are just participating in an anti-Russia mass hysteria.

      https://wikileaks.org//spyfiles/russia/

    6. Re:Assange vs. Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kashoggi was a scumbag islamist who wrote a few articles. Suddenly he's a US journalist because then Trump can be blamed.

      I've been published in my local shitrag newspaper a few times in my life. I must be a valuable US journalist!

    7. Re: Assange vs. Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Khashoggi didn't hide behind a mask. Go post that shit under your real name.

  6. A month old server? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Blatant attack of Assange RATHER than the info itself?
    This whole thing smells like a CIA psyop.

  7. Re:It's no secret......GayPK by Charbroiled++PENIS · · Score: 0

    8====D

    "It's the weekend which means I'm horny!"

    Anyone got pics of editor david?

  8. Ursidae poker by rmdingler · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hope the security is strong with you.

    Fancy Bear just authorized unlimited overtime.

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  9. Re: Implying Russia had something to do w DNC emai by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You said conspiracy theory like it was bullshit, and then deep state like itâ(TM)s real. Convenient. Tool.

  10. Re:It's no secret by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's no secret
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    when I tell you what I'm gonna do
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    when I say my love is real
    'cause I love you, yes I love you

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    when you got me jumping up and down
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    'cause my heart is chained and bound
    I love you, yes I love you, Yeah

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    everybody knows how I feel

    As I get older
    the year sake get's heavy for you
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    It isn't any young girl
    I feel like my whole life is through
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    I know I'll be empty watching your love like I do

    It's no secret (no)
    when you got me jumping up and down
    It's no secret
    'cause my heart is chained and bound
    I love you, yes I love you, Yeah

    It's no secret
    everybody knows how I feel
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    everybody knows how I feel
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  11. Why Bring Up Wikileaks At All? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I find it really strange that everyone who writes about these leaks needs to assert that Wikileaks didn't post them. I saw the same thing in the NYTimes, where they first noted that the new leaks didn't reveal any "bombshells" and then went on a tangent on how Wikileaks didn't post these leaks. Like, what are you on about? Just tell me about what is actually in the leaked e-mails.

  12. Re:"Russia Supplied Wikileaks" Assertion is Unprov by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

    It could have been the Russians, who regularly undertake malicious activity. But it could also be China, or a leak from within the DNC, or the Awan spy ring, who had access to DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schulz's computers and tablets, as well as those of some 40 other House Democrats.

    It was Bernie!

    He made the DNC "Feel the Bern!"

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  13. Traitor whines like a bitch, news at 11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "which so far is an utterly baseless conspiracy theory put out by Democrats" - Moaned FEDERAL PRISONER Paul Manafort, racked with gout, dying in prison a bitch traitor.

    Awwwwww, unfair huh sweetheart? Aww.

  14. TRAITOR APOLOGIST FAGGOT WHINES, NEWS AT 11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "We've been hearing this supposition for over two years " - Moaned FEDERAL PRISONER Paul Manafort, racked with gout, dying in prison a bitch traitor.

    Awwwwww, unfair huh sweetheart? Aww.

  15. Re:"Russia Supplied Wikileaks" Assertion is Unprov by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot is a tabloid website. Of course it's pushing agendas.

  16. Sorry, but I can't resist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Soviet Russia, email leaks YOU!

    (I know, I know)

    1. Re:Sorry, but I can't resist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Soviet Russia, kompromat is whores leaking ON you! Ahaha.. . DRINK COMRADES, WE OWN TRUMP'S SOUL FOR RUSSIYA! Come, we make sex doll out of Ivanka, she's like 99% there. Dead eyed whore. BE BEST!

    2. Re: Sorry, but I can't resist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was it too much horrorwood movies which destroyed your brain ?

      Also, do you really believe the msm nonsense ?

  17. Sure it is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Took us two years to create them.

  18. Re:"Russia Supplied Wikileaks" Assertion is Unprov by TerraFrost · · Score: 3, Informative

    Guccifer 2.0 is presumed to be the "person" who supplied the DNC emails to wikileaks and, quoting wikipedia, "The U.S. Intelligence Community concluded that some of the genuine leaks that Guccifer 2.0 has said were part of a series of cyberattacks on the DNC were committed by two Russian intelligence groups. This conclusion is based on analyses conducted by various private sector cybersecurity individuals and firms, including CrowdStrike, Fidelis Cybersecurity, Fireeye's Mandiant, SecureWorks, ThreatConnect, Trend Micro, and the security editor for Ars Technica.". Wikipedia provides numerous citations to back that up. idk if the U.S. Intelligence Community conducted analysis above and beyond what the private sector cybersecurity firms did but I think it's a safe assumption that they did.

    Of course, I suppose you can always dismiss the U.S. Intelligence Community's analysis if you assume that it's all part of the deep state conspiracy against Trump. And the private sector firms... I guess Trump supporters can just dismiss them as peddlers of fake news too.

  19. Re:"Russia Supplied Wikileaks" Assertion is Unprov by Desler · · Score: 0

    Someone at Slashdot seems to be pushing the "Russia supplied Wikileaks with the DNC hack info" theory as fact when it hasn't been proven.

    How has it not been proven? Closing your eyes and plugging your ears to any facts you don't like is not the same as something being unproven. Also, it's funny how you claim that the only logically proven situation is false, but a bunch of right-wing conspiracy theories to deflect blame from Russia are somehow more plausible.

    /Cue up the cries of "Russian bot" in 5...4...3...

    You're no bot. You're just another useful idiot.

  20. Good Luck Going after the Russians by schwit1 · · Score: 1

    They play by different rules, which are closer to mafia tactics. For the folks running the site or stealing the docs nothing is off limits as long as there is no direct link to the top.

    1. Re:Good Luck Going after the Russians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Trump supporting twattish traitor blathers sweet nothings about a topic he knows nothing real about, news at 11"

  21. How about NO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Russian documents were posted simultaneously on the DDoSecrets website and on the Internet Archive, notes the New York Times, adding that the new site has also posted a large archive of internal documents from WikiLeaks itself.

    You want IA shutdown? Because this is how you get IA shutdown. Playing politics. If the NYT wan'ts to host thse files, let them and suffer whatever consequences including Russia banning all of their reporters and executives. Do NOT drag IA into your little hell. FFS they actually are advertising for a ddos site.

    Thanks. Sincerely, an avid IA user.

    1. Re:How about NO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The archive.org link now shows that the documents got removed for TOS breaches.

  22. Seems like the war on Assange is ramping up again by Maelwryth · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Think of it as WikiLeaks, but without Julian Assange's aversion to posting Russian secrets."
    That might be a good tactic.

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  23. Re:"Russia Supplied Wikileaks" Assertion is Unprov by reboot246 · · Score: 0

    I don't know who did the "hacking", if there even was a hack from outside. Let's ask Seth Rich and see what he says about it. Well, it's too late now, isn't it? Something about file timestamps, if I remember correctly.

  24. COLLUSION CHARGES COME LAST YOU MORON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The charges against Trump COME LAST, OBVIOUSLY MORON. God you traitors are fucking DUMB lol.

  25. Re:"Russia Supplied Wikileaks" Assertion is Unprov by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    Someone at Slashdot ...

    You don't appear to be new here but you sure act like it.

    Do you suppose there's any way at all that you can discover who actually authored TFA?

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  26. Copypasta! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 5, Informative

    Someone at Slashdot seems to be pushing the "Russia supplied Wikileaks with the DNC hack info" theory as fact when it hasn't been proven.

    It hasn't been proven to you. Do not presume to know what intelligence agencies know.

    But the Russia theory is pushed above all because that's the one that fuels Democratic activist outrage and the "Russian collusion" fantasy

    People aren't being indicted and convicted because it's a fantasy.

    Cue up the cries of "Russian bot" in 5...4...3...

    I don't think you're a Russian bot but I do think you are useful idiot.

    Also noticed that you are just copypastaing your own site and call everything that doesn't agree with you a "hard-left outlet".

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    1. Re: Copypasta! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might want to read up on what a useful idiot is, because you are the one parroting the media talking points like a good little idiot.

      People being railroaded for technicalities instead of the stated purpose of the investigation, while others are not even looked into when definite crimes with proof are available (fisa court manipulation), means the whole special council is nothing more than a political weapon, and is the furthest thing from justice you can get. It's right out of a dystopian novel, and the useful idiot's cheer it on because it currently targets people they dont like. These people have little intelligence, otherwise they'd realize that once this allowed to happen, it will eventually be used against themselves and their people.

    2. Re:Copypasta! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suppose you haven't read any of the assessments from Adam Carter and evidence that the files were copied from a USB.
      http://g-2.space/

      Besides, we already know through another Wikileaks leak that the CIA has a program that leaves fingerprints that look like they are from other foreign countries.

    3. Re:Copypasta! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      We can't presume to know what the intel agencies know; therefore, we can't presume that they have evidence, even if they did claim to possess it. If a claim is made publicly, then it must be proven with public evidence. If not, the claim must be treated as unsubstantiated... because as far as anyone else is concerned, it is!

    4. Re:Copypasta! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Do not presume to know what intelligence agencies know.

      Do not presume what intelligence agencies want you to BELIEVE.

    5. Re:Copypasta! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As someone who lived in USSR before and after collapse I am well ware of who Russians are and what they are capable of. So all I have to say is this. Ubei sebya ap stenu der'mo. Razgon 100m. Stena betonnaya.

      You don't sound like a Russian bot/troll. You sound like a dumb asshole.

    6. Re:Copypasta! by iwbcman · · Score: 1


      Give me a break

      I am so sick of the fawning over our so-called 'intelligence' agencies, that I have had enough. Let's call them what they really are, the short bus commando.

      When in your life time has the CIA or the NSA *ever* been right with their so-called intelligence? When did they ever give us a heads up on important developments? When did they ever prevent something bad from happening? When did their 'intelligence' ever lead to anything good? The answer, never. They were wrong about Iraq. They were wrong about Libya. In fact the only thing they are good for is being wrong. On the wrong side of justice, the wrong side of the law, the wrong side of the *people*, simply wrong.

      Oh and I am supposed to be shushed because I am not aware of what they supposedly know, whatever top secret information they might have, to which I am not privileged. LOL. The CIA is the propaganda bureau plain and simple.

      They only intelligence they possess is the art of manipulation, which granted does require cunning, malice, and skullduggery. But knowledge, understanding, grasping of significance etc. is something they have systematically proven to be incapable of.

      The CIA has been the bastion of foreign election intervention since it's inception, they have been responsible for dozens of coup d'etats, assassinations, civil wars and other mayhem, destabilizing societies around the world and generally fucking the common man for the benefit of rich paymasters who they serve.

      As an institution they are morally bankrupt, ethically corrupt, and deserving of nothing else than contempt and derision. And now our glorious free(TM) media pays them to spread their propaganda on our news programs and in our newspaper articles. I don't really hate the kids on the short bus, I actually kind of feel for them, but intelligence is not a property appropriately applied to describe them.

      I won't waste too many words on the Federal Bureau of Entrapment, Americas premeier law enforcement agency. That bungling gaggle of incompetent nincompoops are only to be taken seriously because of the lives they have taken. Entrapment is their specialty because they are almost universally incapable of capturing actual criminals, but of course it's not their fault that are Justice Department never, ever really prosecutes the real criminals(hey 2008 financial crisis, heres looking at you!). As far as investigation goes the FBI is really good at finding out who MLK was sleeping with, what drugs the peace protestors in the 60's were taking, and infiltrating the Black Panthers and other resistance organizations, yet when it comes to investigating things that most Americans are rightfully concerned about, the FBI has nada.

      And just a final note: We cannot and will not ever know what really happened with the DNC server because a private security firm wiped any traces of what happened before the DNC had cooked up their Russian conspiracy theory. There is a conspiracy, no theory needed, which does not involve any Russians. It was the conspiracy to make sure that none of the damaging info from the DNC leaks ever made it into the mainstream media and instead we got to hear one bogus story after the next about Russian boogeymen by ignorant young reporters who aren't even old enough to remember the friggin cold war.

      Oh and just so it's clear where I stand on Trump and the Mueller investigation: We don't need an investigation regarding Trump. Anyone who wasn't on the short bus knew that Trump was a lying sack of shit, who'd sell his mother for a tower in Moscow, hell even Timbuktu, long before he became president. He commits crimes every single day, he can't help it, it's in his nature, just like lying, cheating, stealing and screwing people over. But this was fucking clear almost 40 years ago. The Russians had nothing to do with his election, it was the good ole American Pie short bus baking brigade that elected him.

    7. Re:Copypasta! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are not now and never were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and neither Iraq nor Afghanistan played a part in the 9/11 attacks.

      It hasn't been proven to you. Do not presume to know what intelligence agencies know.

      We have been engaged in multiple wars for 16 years. 16 years!

      What for?

      Do not presume to know what intelligence agencies know.

    8. Re: Copypasta! by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Eventually? It already was when the Republicans went after Bill Clinton with a special prosecutor for Whitewater, which turned into impeachent (but not removal) for a process crime not even related to the Whitewater issue.

      Neither side learns. All we see is the wisdom the Founding Fathers had in things like the 4th and 5th Amendments in trying to stop powerful people from using the power of government to investigate their political enemies.

      Now maybe there is something here, but it is driven by politics. And Trump shouting "Lock her up!" is the exact same thing. So one need not even go back to Bill Clinton to see Republicans abusing government to hurt political enemies.

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    9. Re:Copypasta! by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      The truth is probably far more disturbing. The spy agencies record calls outside the US without warrants. If they realize one caller is a US citizen they are supposed to keep the recording locked unless they get a warrant.

      Maybe they caught someone high up speaking to someone high up there, and listened but shouldn't have, and now need a way to drag it out into the open without revealing a grotesquely unconstitutional action.

      Ymmv to the details.

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    10. Re:Copypasta! by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      As someone who lived in USSR before and after collapse I am well ware of who Russians are and what they are capable of. So all I have to say is this. Ubei sebya ap stenu der'mo. Razgon 100m. Stena betonnaya.

      You don't sound like a Russian bot/troll. You sound like a dumb asshole.

      Is it Popov or Popoff that's the real Russian vodka?

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    11. Re:Copypasta! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It hasn't been proven to you. Do not presume to know what intelligence agencies know." Ah yes, the privileged information fallacy. Pardon me if I don't just take their word for it. No conflict of interest for those agencies at all. Nothing to see there. Move along, peasant.

  27. Yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    When Bernie was cheated out of the race, the Deep State did nothing to correct this wrongdoing. That demonstrates their corruption.

    1. Re:Yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When Bernie was cheated out of the race, the Deep State did nothing to correct this wrongdoing. That demonstrates their corruption.

      Right wingers love to invent boogiemen. The so called deep state is just people, just citizens just doing their jobs, which act as a check on some of the rampant corruption on the right. A few in the DNC put their thumb on the scale to help their candidate using unethical methods. The so called deep state had nothing to do with it, since that is more of just the net collection of civil servants doing their jobs. They are hardly the democratic party policeman.

      Please stop mixing up your conspiracy theories. It makes you look stupid. Also, it is morally repugnant when people justify evil by claiming evil is the trending thing. At best you have some democratic party leadership that needed gotten rid of, and guess what, Debbie resigned. Now, Trump has done so much worse that the scale is likely orders of magnitude worse.

      Where is his resignation? He has to know he is crappy at the job by now. If he had any love of country or even love of party he would resign, but he doesn't.

    2. Re:Yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think the Deep State can't be both what the right wing fears as well as "just people", you've never watched "Yes, Minister". Career bureaucrats in government have a hell of a lot of power.

  28. Re:"Russia Supplied Wikileaks" Assertion is Unprov by mvdwege · · Score: 1

    /Cue up the cries of "Russian bot" in 5...4...3...

    Well, you did just fail the Reverse Turing Test...

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  29. Re:Implying Russia had something to do w DNC email by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and the deep state

    lol, a grownup typed this

  30. Re:Implying Russia had something to do w DNC email by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you're an American saying that, you are what Russians call a "useful idiot".

  31. Excellent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    American Civilization revolves around homosexual rape in prisons ?

    That correlates with the largest prison population on earth per capita.

    Was it the same in Sodom & Gomorrea ?

    1. Re:Excellent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      America is a country, not a civilization. Looking for civilization in prison, you might catch a dick in your ass. Moral of the story : Don't be a fucking traitor, Drumpftards. Soap is slippery.

  32. At last! by VeryFluffyBunny · · Score: 0

    A version of Wikileaks that the western establishments can support! I'm sure it's completely trustworthy, unbiased, & documents weren't selectively "leaked" by US & UK govt. three letter agencies.

    I wonder if we'll end up with an online version of Spy vs. Spy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spy_vs._Spy), where the Five Eyes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes) dump documents stolen from their adversaries on DDoS & their adversaries do the same on Wikileaks? Of course the establishment press are far more likely to report on documents leaked from/about the enemy du jour than anything embarrassing or damaging to their own governments, corporations, & powerful individuals. We might end up getting all our democratically useful news from adversarial state news agencies, e.g. Russia Today.

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    1. Re:At last! by benjfowler · · Score: 2

      That's right.

      Hybrid warfare is only okay when Russian three-letter agencies do it.

      Right, got it ;-)

    2. Re:At last! by ChatHuant · · Score: 1

      >I wonder if we'll end up with an online version of Spy vs. Spy

      All the better, says I. I'd rather have both sides' secrets public, than either only one's, or, even worse, none at all. Quoting Erasmus: Give light, and the darkness will disappear of itself.

    3. Re:At last! by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Russia and the Soviet union did not grow up with digital data in the same way as USA.
      Under Soviet Union a super computer with network was something very special and something to wait for.
      Requests for such fully imported or a domestically produced copy of a western computer system was not easy to make.
      Getting such a system was a real effort. The real work done on such a computer had to be approved and tracked.
      Home computers played copies of games, allowed people to learn code. To understand hardware and software to write better games.
      To repair hardware and fix home computers so they could be used again.
      To play and share western games. To translate. To work on a way to get every extra amount of computing power out of 8 bit home computers.

      The 1990's saw a flood of consumer and new US imports. US OS, hardware and networks. Some attempts by Russia to make its own OS, own CPU.
      Did Russia trust all the low cost US consumer computers they could now import and network? No.
      NSA, CIA and GCHQ altered shipments of powerful new computer parts exported at "cost" to Russians who get a market opening deal/discount.
      Russia new most of its new networks that "had" to be connected to do business would be the start of projects like FAIRVIEW, STORMBREW, GERONTIC.
      To place large amounts of secret data onto a network was not an option as it was not something people did over the decades in academic/science/mil work.
      A super computer existed to work on a complex problem in a set time.
      A different culture to database and networking use.
      The fully networked computer system is in a secure building. No networks exist outside the building, into the city, to the internet.
      With guards, a strong esprit de corps and real security clearances. Staff have full background investigations and don't get to wonder in and out of "work" with their smart phones. Staff at that level of security are politically reliable.
      Lots of home computers are connected globally but that is for domestic/fun/consumer/business use.
      What is online in Russia as gov datas sets is honeypot/bait/trap. A lot of powerful looking information left around to see if anyone is spying, what makes to West.
      Fictional projects, code words, funding that is "easy" to spy out on an open network that connects direct into Russia.
      Want data on Russia? Make a human spy and have them copy and walk data out for CIA/MI6.
      CIA/MI6 would never allow such datasets to be published in real time, 10-20 years later.
      In 70 to 100 years some approved historian might get to hint at what the NSA/CIA/GCQH/MI6 did in Russia in 2019 in a book chapter that was cleared for publication.
      That some Russian walked out of work with a large data set they copied.
      That an aircraft, ferry/truck route was used to transport Russian mil equipment out on bulk.
      No western security service would ever publish material found, methods decades after such methods got used.

      So what is found in Russia that can be publish in the West on real time?
      If it was real data from Russia, it would be in the hands of Western security services and never to be talked about.
      Want to know about Western spying in Russia in 2019? Read a history book that was approved for publication about what was done before 1950.

      --
      Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
    4. Re:At last! by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the conspicuous absence of any U.S. intelligence (or anything else embarrassing to the U.S,) on this "leaks" site screams CIA/NSA operation to me. They had may as well put their logos on the home page.

      --
      SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
  33. The Weak bitch traitor that was. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "A male being on the receiving end of anal sex is traditionally homosexual." - Not when Trump does it. Then it's neo-Presidential, right traitor apologist throwing out red herrings faster than a prison condom dispenser?

    Just admit it. Pelosi fucked Trump with a huge nightstick of resolve, and she made the bitch cum against his will. She raped his ass. Deal with it snowflake. Don't like analogies, then pull your head out of your ass.

  34. Good Luck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Russian government uses hardened Linux and OpenBSD servers, unlike the corrupt&incompetent US elite who will use Windows and similar crapware. Plus the Russians have been very good at protecting their secrets for the last 10 decades or so.

    That is because they do not indulge into moneychanger Bullshit as much as others do.

    1. Re:Good Luck by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Anything of any interest in Russia is
      In the minds of a small group of people doing something interesting.
      On a paper in a safe in a walk in vault in a secure mil/science city.
      On paper in a safe in a secure building.
      Should Russia need a "Super Computer" such work is done on site with a computer. No networks outside needed.
      One task gets one super computer on site.
      The exception would be university science, academic networks to gather real time data from all over Russia/globally.

      Russia is well networked but not in a way the NSA and GCHQ expects.
      Want great Russia secrets? Have the MI6/CIA recruit a real Russia worker with access to a building/site/mil and have them "photograph" the papers of interest.

      Offer the person in Russia a deal and ask them collect the data.
      Use internet to send data sets back to West.

      --
      Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
    2. Re:Good Luck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Russian government uses hardened Linux

      Well, of course they do. After all, Linux was invented by a Soviet computer hacker named Linyos Torovoltos!

      http://adequacy.org/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html

  35. APK ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have you been convinced to chop off your penis by a moneychanger scribbler ?

  36. Re: "Russia Supplied Wikileaks" Assertion is Unpro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice job creimer. We see your amazon affiliate link.

  37. Re: "Russia Supplied Wikileaks" Assertion is Unpro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Spam. Amazon link do not click.

  38. Hahahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Meanwhile America has killed millions in Iraq and Syria wars, JUST TO LINE THE POCKETS OF THE WAR INDUSTRY.

    Nice croco tears from you though.

    Also, greetings to your friends the bone saw experts.

    1. Re:Hahahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Saudi royals are friends of Trump traitors, not America. Obama catered to them way too much for US strategic interests, which is defensible only to a point. When they killed a US journalist and Trump covered it up, that's treason.

    2. Re: Hahahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oligarchs everywhere, including the ones running the USofAâ(TM)s military overseas operations, and the Russian ones in overseas operations under the direction of oligarchs seem to be all off their rockers these days.

      How many millions/billions do they need before their criminal enterprises are the only reason wars are being fought these days?

      Speaking as a little person, what I see these oligarchs doing gives me little reason to believe governments with oligarchs should be trusted... except maybe in countries with some level of justiciary oversight and actual nonpolitical justice enforcement... not that the USofA has a great track record for this, it is not the worst of them... How is Russia doing in that regard?

      This is the difference that needs to reasserted, if the game is fair to the little people, fine! But the second it is nothing but money transfers for millions of dollars of death causing weapons, wars, drugs, corruption, and political power games with nothing but death and destruction behind it... ask yourselves, who should be killed first?

  39. Sure Communist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    According to your crazy ideology, white people must be ethnically cleansed, raped and mass murdered.

    Very much like Stalin and Mao did.

  40. DemoSwamp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like all commies you cannot be Fair Losers. You can only accept winning the game. For that reason you erected monuments of bullshit in order to discredit the election which made Trump president. Just like Stalin, Lenin, Mao and PolPot. Or Mohammed.

    You folks must be called the Neobrutes.

    1. Re:DemoSwamp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whatever you say neo-faggot traitor. I hope you enjoy the taste of Vladimir Putin's asshole, that's where you live. Prison-bound traitor faggot meth head Republicans better get with Jesus before the flame sword comes out.

    2. Re:DemoSwamp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're saying that Trump's election was just like those of Stalin, Lenin, Mao and Pol Pot?

    3. Re:DemoSwamp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you are going to get is more likely a civil war and the final burning down of this never-great nation.

      Everyone hates the prison-industrial complex and the people that enforce it. (Well, all men, regardless of color. Women like it because it protects their right to dominate males legally)

  41. YEAH BULLSHIT. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Donna Brazile was removed from her post, Wasserman was forever tainted and removed from main leadership, and either way what they did was unacceptable BUT NOT A CRIME, like Trump's campaign fraud, collusion, etc.

    If you want to go over Democratic parking tickets before you address the treasonous GOP fraud in the room, you are a traitor apologist faggot, not someone actually trying to hold anyone accountable for anything real.

    You're a hack, punk. Go whine about the deep state into a deep asshole like Vladimir Putin's. See if you come out clean like Paul Manafort ya bitch.

  42. Sure DemoRat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know it is a wild goose chase and there is nothing. You do it nevertheless in order to weaken the properly elected president.

    By now you operate like dyed in the wool communists, who will label anything non-communist somehow illegal.

    1. Re:Sure DemoRat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know it is a wild goose chase and there is nothing.

      How could I or you possibly know this, given the leak-proof operation that Mueller is running?

  43. REBOOT246 = FAGGOT TRAITOR CHATBOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nobody needs you to understand what happened, willful moron. Mueller doesn't need you to get this basic shit, faggot traitor. And you forgot to mention pizzagate, so no Rubles for you bitch.

  44. Sure, Croco by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For several decades the Bankster Imperium of UKUSA has used Wahabist Terror for their Power Plays. Millions were killed by the Mohammedist Terrorists from Chechnya to Bosnia to Syria.

    Mohammed Bin Salman testified about that when the Americans held his feet to the fire.

  45. More by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tell me more about the monified shithole you live in.

  46. Implying that Asante has an aversion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Itâ(TM)s sort of disengious because itâ(TM)s not as if he was given Russian secrets to expose. Simply becUse he had Democrats email to expose doesnâ(TM)t meAn he wouldnâ(TM)t expose republican or Russian secrets

    1. Re:Implying that Asante has an aversion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Armand Assante has nothing to do with this.

  47. Cool by benjfowler · · Score: 1

    For ages, the Russians attacked the "Western Establishment" (i.e. anybody in government or law enforcement who was capable and not corrupt). Now, it's our time to settle the score, and take the "Russian Establishment" (who are all Chekists and serious organised criminals), down a few pegs.

    Well, the Russian "Establishment" don't like it up them, do they? BOO HOO! Sucks to be you, Chekist scum. Turnabout is fair play, and karma is a magnificent righteous, vicious BITCH. Enjoy payback, arseholes.

    Hats off to the people brave enough to do this. Stinky Julian Assange, being the Russophile lickspittle he is, never had the cojones to offend his GRU masters.

  48. Re:"Russia Supplied Wikileaks" Assertion is Unprov by benjfowler · · Score: 1

    You are a Russia shill.

  49. Fellow comrades by Cito · · Score: 1

    c3RhbmQgZG93biBvcGVyYXRpb25z :P

  50. D'strovia Trump-supporting traitor chatbot comrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    According to your retarded FOX/GOP talking point bullshit, Putin's ass tastes great and you don't even realize you're an oligarch's dick cozy. Whattabout her emails, right comrade? D'strovia.

  51. Let's kill Assange by apol · · Score: 0

    Summary of the article: US and other watmongering states want to annihilate Assange. I'm doing my best to spread gossip against him to ease their task.

    1. Re:Let's kill Assange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Daily Beast has Chelsea Clinton the board of its parent company, IAC. Not that they're the only one who will eagerly cover Emma Best's work. Almost all the mainstream media comes from six corporations, and they all want Assange dead.

    2. Re:Let's kill Assange by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Watmonger: noun

      1) A tour guide specializing in Buddhist religious sites

      2) An incense peddler

  52. Re: "Russia Supplied Wikileaks" Assertion is Unpro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And you fail to provide any proof, because there isn't any yet. Instead you fall back on the assumption that it's true because the media has been ramming it into your skull for the past two years straight. Hey, if the media keeps saying it, it must be true, right?

  53. Re:Implying Russia had something to do w DNC email by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fuck off you god damn faggot putin cock holster

  54. Don't be a damned tool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    G2 is a fraud. Adam Carter has documented it, if you're really curious. But if you want something really easy to understand, just try to find anything damning that G2 released. You won't find anything because there was nothing interesting in the G2 "hack". Which suggests it was a selected leak, made to look like a "hack". In fact, G2's description of what he "hacked" was laughably backwards. He said he found pay-to-play, when what he "found" was documentation from someone looking for (and not finding) pay-to-play in TARP payments.

    Curious how the "U.S. Intelligence Community" has any respect after the numerous times it has propagandized, toppled governments and gotten us into wars on lies. How quickly we've forgotten "weapons of mass destruction" now that the "U.S. Intelligence Community" is the enemy of our enemy.

    If you don't believe there is a deep state it's because you've been fooled by the biggest propaganda campaign in history. Don't be a damned tool.

    I'm as lefty as they get, BTW. Not a fan of Trump.

  55. Assange doesn't release anything he can't verify by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Assange doesn't release anything he can't verify authentic, which is a challenge when it is in Russian. But he did solicit material embarrassing to Trump. And don't forget that the same people who are cursing him over outing the DNC as a cheating tool of the Clinton cabal were cheering him when he was releasing things embarrassing to Bush.

  56. Anglo woman attacks man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What else is new.

  57. Read the article you linked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    People aren't being indicted and convicted of collusion with Russia. There's even a handy table that summarizes the charges for you.

    Also, I am hard left.

  58. Wanna bet these documents snare a Clinton? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did she read all this stuff she's posting? I bet if there's anything interesting in there it will snare the wrong side.

  59. Fake news does not even need fake sources by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sometimes regular people just can't believe that somebody could lie *that* blatantly, and with a straight face.

    But this was no accident.
    It's "Iraq's WMDs" all over again.

    Nevermind that Wikileaks has published all leaks from all stated since its beginning. Including previous Russian leaks.
    Gotta keep the nationalist hate up.

  60. Re: Implying Russia had something to do w DNC emai by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    You said conspiracy theory like it was bullshit, and then deep state like itÃ(TM)s real.

    You say that like there isn't an uncollected power establishment composed of corporations and appointed officials. Who votes for positions on the Council on Foreign Relations? Who voted for all the CIA officials who lied to Congress while spying on Congress? The ones that spy on presidential candidates and even elected presidents? These are undisputable facts, not Alex Jones rambling about the Illuminati or the Rothschilds. Fuck, man, it's only within the last week that a deputy director of the FBI admitted on live television that it's their job to suppress the wrong sort of people from getting elected to government.

    Total. Shit. For. Brains. You, and your upraters.

  61. Absent?? THEY ARE RIGHT FUCKING THERE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have personally downloaded numerous Russian leaks from Wikileaks!!

    How blatant a liar are you? Holy hell! You must think we are completely retarded and never checked!

    1. Re: Absent?? THEY ARE RIGHT FUCKING THERE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please show us the link to currently damning of Russia material first published on Wikileaks. Anything from, say, the last couple years.

      Go ahead and provide that url text.

  62. Re: Implying Russia had something to do w DNC emai by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nobody "spied" on anybody without a fucking warrant, so you can rot in prison with the rest of the traitors and drink your toilet whine, but you are not a victim of anything but your OWN STUPIDITY AND CHUTZPAH.

  63. Re:Implying Russia had something to do w DNC email by Aighearach · · Score: 1

    You might want to visit the library and open a newspaper, those conspiracy videos are getting to you.

    You seem about 2 years behind on current events. I guess that is the last time you made it to the surface.

  64. Re: "Russia Supplied Wikileaks" Assertion is Unpro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This whole article may as well be a bait story to log and cross correlate the IPs of Russian paid trolls. The sqf thing is there are some idiots who aren't even being paid to post that whataboutism deflection.

  65. And still no cite from you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "There have been numerous leaks.." Like what? Citation needed, dearie.
    And is the claim that WL has never leaked anything shitty russia has done? If not, please cite the list in sufficient number that this becomes a pattern rather than a non-perfect record, plz.

  66. Show us the links to what WL missed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is a claim of "numerous leaks" but not one link to someone leaking them while WL doesn't.
    PS See https://wikileaks.org//spyfiles/russia/

  67. So the OP is guilty of appeal to authority fallacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the OP didn't know that the claims were valid due to not knowing the evidence for it, then they were making a fallacious claim. Putin after all said he didn't do anything WRT the death of an ex spy in the UK. Just parroting that is either deliberate partisanship or has to be based on evidence known about, therefore can be cited.

    If they don't have any idea if the quote was real, then they are a dumbass and parroting PR.
    If they AREN'T full of shit, then they would know that the quote is backed up by evidence, which they can therefore provide.

  68. US documents walked by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    The US documents got walked out by a human.
    Like the Pentagon papers. A domestic political release to the media.

    --
    Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
  69. I really loved the part where they conjecture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That Hillary is a Russian because of the level of her alcoholism.

  70. Sense of priorities is missing by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    That you would conflate life and death information about US empire (as are readily found in WikiLeaks publications) with personal peccadilloes about Assange speaks very badly about you and your priorities, and says nothing about Assange or WikiLeaks. Greenwald has made an impressive reputation for keeping his comments on very important matters of state and not letting personal trifles steer him from informing us about what we ought to consider. So much of this ad job promoting these leaks reads the opposite way: Emma Best's own words, the coverage of Emma Best's work here come off as vague attempts at trying to downplay the importance of WikiLeaks and distract away from the content of the leaks via vastly overstated claims about Assange's ego. I don't care how big his ego is; given the importance of the leaks WikiLeaks and Greenwald have published I say they're both incredibly important to the public. And guilt by association with parties (it's assumed) we're not supposed to like (oh no -- Russians!) is remarkably clueless (such as the recent New York Times article about Emma Best) given that the NYT was fine to base articles on WikiLeaks leaks not that long ago.

    1. Re:Sense of priorities is missing by AlanObject · · Score: 1

      You seem to be responding to a number of assertions that I did not make.

      I didn't say anything about "personal peccadilloes." I said that he made some poor ("dumb") choices. I can make the case for that but I don't want to get into it here.

      I asserted that he contributed a lot but could have done more. Perhaps you believe he could not have done more. Then we just disagree there.

      Also you seem to think that I discount Greenwald's probity on the issue. In fact I don't.

  71. In Soviet Russia... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The emails leak you

  72. Re:"Russia Supplied Wikileaks" Assertion is Unprov by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, I checked out your blog. I'm not saying that that Trump Derangement Syndrome isn't a thing...but somebody has a pretty serious case of Hilary Derangement Syndrome.

  73. Re: D'strovia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know, Ivan, every time you include obscure Russian slang in your shitposts, that makes it really obvious you're a Russian troll.

  74. pizza? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    do they talk about eating LOTS AND LOTS of pizza in clear code words? i dont speak communist ;(

  75. Its all moot, power corrupts humanity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only way out, is extinction or A.I. oversight, everything else leads to bickering bullshit, like these posts, flaked with little pieces of actual opinion and truth.

    Humanity doesnt thrive on that shit, thats how we evolved into the pissants we are now.

    Grow the fuck up and do some good, or get bent n pegged.

  76. Re:Implying Russia had something to do w DNC email by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    You might want to visit the library and open a newspaper, those conspiracy videos are getting to you.

    To go back to the good old days when 75% of Americans thought Saddam had WMD's and was involved in 911.

    To repeat for the indoctrinated...how do you think that happened, exactly?

  77. Re:Implying Russia had something to do w DNC email by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some deflection from the topic, since you love to use them yourself sooo much: It's surprising that you aren't also an anti-vaxxer.
    After all it's about powerful American corporations corrupting and controlling the people that may be in league with the deep state. They let the whole opiate thing happen, even after having some historical evidence of what opium did to the Chinese before Mao did even worse things. And yet you seem to trust these corporations?
    Well, I guess there's also a gradient for nut jobs.
    It's amusing to see where people like you draw the lines between what is credible to them and what is just a bit too much.

  78. Re:Implying Russia had something to do w DNC email by Uberbah · · Score: 1

    You wanna try that again while sober?