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Lightsaber Dueling Registered as Official Sport in France (theguardian.com)

It's now easier than ever in France to act out Star Wars fantasies. The country's fencing federation has officially recognized lightsaber dueling as a competitive sport, granting the weapon from George Lucas's space saga the same status as the foil, epee and sabre, the traditional blades used at the Olympics. From a report: Of course, the LED-lit, rigid polycarbonate replicas can't slice an opponent in half. But they look and sound remarkably like the blades that Yoda and other characters wield in the blockbuster movies. The physicality of lightsaber combat is part of the reason why the French Fencing Federation is now equipping fencing clubs with lightsabers and training would-be lightsaber instructors. Like virtuous Jedi knights, the federation sees itself as combatting a Dark Side: the sedentary habits of 21st-century life.

"With young people today, it's a real public health issue. They don't do any sport and only exercise with their thumbs," says Serge Aubailly, the federation's secretary general. "That is why we are trying to create a bond between our discipline and modern technologies, so participating in a sport feels natural." In the past, Zorro, Robin Hood and The Three Musketeers helped lure new practitioners to fencing. Now, Luke Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader are joining them. "Cape-and-sword movies have always had a big impact on our federation and its growth," Aubailly says. "Lightsaber films have the same impact. Young people want to give it a try."

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  1. I wonder... by BringsApples · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...what percentage of French people are happy, or even care, about this. Or is this just another of the strange things that get to happen in today's world?

    Who knows. But here's a list of other odd sports that exist.

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    1. Re:I wonder... by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      Traditional Fencing is an expensive sport to learn. There is a lot of safety equipment that needs to be tailored to you, and a well balanced and crafted saber or foil isn't cheap too. Especially compared to a $20 football (choose your brand of foot ball) and an other $100 worth of safety equipment

      Light Saber with these toy Sabers, are actually much safer, and you don't need such a high barrier to entry to the sport.

      With all the thing in the world, Sports with a well regulated and organized way to beating the crap out of other people is probably what we need anyways.

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    2. Re:I wonder... by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      I made "lightsabers" for my boys for $1 each. Get some inexpensive pool noodles, shiny silver duct tape, and black tape (electrical tape works well). Cut the pool noodle in half. Wrap silver duct tape around one end to make a "handle." Add the black tape to make decorative fixtures like "buttons." Now, you can battle and whack each other with your lightsabers without hurting each other. Depending on the length of the pool noodle, each one might make two sabers - or only one with some bits left over. These stand up for about a year or two of my boys hitting them against each other quite hard so they're quite long lived for the cost - and easily replaced. (Also, you can make them in different colors to suit your Jedi or Sith preferences.)

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    3. Re:I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, no. Fenced my whole life. Foil and mask - around $70. 'Light Saber' on Amazon - around $20 for cheapest, $200 for expensive (no current masks or use the same ones). As you can "poke your eye out" with either, there's protective gear for both (I would fucking hope) and *both* are 'tailored' as long as you define tailored as getting a jacket your size.

      Toys will deteriorate with use much faster, so replacements will be more often. Foil blade breaks (happens, not frequently) - install another (3 for $50) because they're made for self-repairing. Break your light saber, get another.

      That's all manual judging competition gear. If you insist on talking electronic gear, it's more expensive, but then you're comparing electronic fencing to toy human judging light saber. If you require electronic judging on both, invent the light saber equivalent.

      Safer? No. Injury by the actual equipment is quite rare. The bulk of injuries are repetitive stress oriented and the same will hold true in light saber fighting.

      Light saber fencing is equivalent to a farting contest.

    4. Re:I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Light saber fencing is equivalent to a farting contest.

      Depends on the goal and how its organized and judged?

      If its stressing sword techniques (though with an omni-directional blade) then how is it different than standard Fencing being judged as "simplistic crap" because it lacks lateral movement?

    5. Re:I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Addenda: Go look at the picture atop the linked article. Notice all the protective gear? Just as expensive as fencing gear.

    6. Re:I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, as a guy who both fenced and played football, the costs of the equipment involved is very similar. Sure, for the cost of a football you can get together a backyard game, but at the college level (where I played) the helmet (custom sized) and pads were not cheap at all, and even the cleats were surprisingly expensive. Back when I fenced my foil had a custom grip which drove the price up considerably, but the uniform and helmet were stock sizes and not very expensive at all. And compared to both of them, archery was waaay more expensive. My arrows alone were like $23 apiece, and that was back in the 80's so I have no idea what they cost today. Destroyed a fair number of arrows (split one arrow with another - surprisingly common if you shoot hundreds of arrows - miss the target entirely and plant it in the dirt is often the end of an arrow as well). My compound bow was well over $1000 all by itself, and that doesn't include the crap you can hang off it (weights, clickers, sights).

    7. Re:I wonder... by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      Traditional Fencing is an expensive sport to learn. There is a lot of safety equipment that needs to be tailored to you

      I usually buy my fencing supplies from Home Depot. Safety glasses are about $10 and seem to fit well off the shelf.

    8. Re:I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have the high ground on this, so I win.

    9. Re:I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Traditional Fencing is an expensive sport to learn. There is a lot of safety equipment that needs to be tailored to you

      I actually heard them discussing this on the radio this morning, they are making them wear safety gear, because you could still inflict some damage with a polycarbonate sword.

      They're in full on safety gear, and not just playing with cheap toys.

    10. Re:I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not correct, traditional fencing equipment does not need to be tailored to you at all, most gyms will even have loaner gear in house for students to use. Saber electric gear is the most expensive, and even that is a 1 time buy for a lengthy period of time. Decent blades run about 100 bucks, and u can go down to about 60 if you want a cheaper one. A full set of decent quality gear is about 400 bucks.

    11. Re: I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah but Star Wars lightsaber fights are based more in kendo. Japanese fencing is much cheaper than traditional. The bamboo mock swords they use are $25 and not very dangerous.

    12. Re:I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But here's a list of other odd sports that exist.

      Also, ESPN 8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8414uArsBOs

  2. Disney Lawyers by Mycroft-X · · Score: 1

    Lawsuit incoming in 3....2....1.....

    1. Re:Disney Lawyers by supremebob · · Score: 1

      That would be kinda stupid, no? If Lightsaber dueling becomes an official sport, they can make a fortune selling actual "Official Licensed Gear" of the sport.

      They could become the next Wilson of Lightsabers, and only sue the people selling knockoff products.

    2. Re:Disney Lawyers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are already people selling "knockoff products" (actually, the knockoffs are often the ones making actual "full on prop" vs. "toy").

      Check out UltraSabers.

  3. wedgie by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Funny

    The longer I live, the more I understand why nerds get bullied.

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    1. Re:wedgie by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      The more generic form is "the longer I live, the more I think most people are idiots".

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    2. Re:wedgie by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's no more nerdy than foil fencing, just less old. It's also about as abstracted from reality as foil fencing.

      Any exercise program that you actually do is a good one. If light sabers motivate people, more power to them.

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    3. Re:wedgie by Ogive17 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's sad that people are being ridiculed for doing something that brings joy and has no negative impact on anyone else.

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    4. Re:wedgie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well it's a sport now, so techicnly this makes all those "nerds" waving plastic light sabers "jocks".

    5. Re: wedgie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not just ridiculed, but "you deserve to be beaten".

      Angry grandpas are sad.

    6. Re:wedgie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well it's a sport now, so techicnly this makes all those "nerds" waving plastic light sabers "jocks".

      This completely explains why "I see your schwartz is as big as mine" totally fits in context.

    7. Re:wedgie by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      It's sad that people are being ridiculed for doing something that brings joy and has no negative impact on anyone else.

      I can accept that bullying is sad and bad and at the same time understand its motivation.

      I guess nerds don't do nuance.

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    8. Re:wedgie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or, are you ready for this? Prepare your mind... you're just an asshole.

      It's that simple.

    9. Re:wedgie by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      you're just an asshole.

      You sound like my wife.

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    10. Re:wedgie by Livius · · Score: 1

      If light sabers motivate people, more power

      I see what you did.

    11. Re:wedgie by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      I don't know about bullying a guy that had spent a couple hundred hours learning from a fencing instructor... light saber or other wise he could probably grab a broom stick and do some damage. Worse yet, he could be a Trekkie and go for a sharpened Bat'leth made of stainless steel you wouldn't need any training to do some damage with that.
       

    12. Re:wedgie by lrichardson · · Score: 1

      Meh ... modern fencing (foil, épée) is 99% pistol grip, which simply doesn't translate into a broom, stick, or 'real' sword. As for the Bat'leth, you're absolutely right, they would do some damage ... to themselves. The thing is fundamentally unbalanced, and nigh on useless in combat (as choreographed in the shows).

      HEMA would be a better place to start ... but even there, weapons are changing to take advantage of the rules (e.g. longswords are becoming slightly longer than historical records suggest)

    13. Re:wedgie by Solandri · · Score: 2

      The modern foil fencing saber is a bastardized form of the original saber, altered to be more foil-like to increase the excitement from lightning-quick thrusts and parries. The original saber is meant to be twirled. When you make a sweeping cut with a straight sword, you lose all the energy you put into the blow if it misses the target. But because you twirl a saber, the rotational energy you put into it builds up and is retained until you hit something. That's why it's so prominently curved - when you twirl it most of your hits are going to slicing blows, and curving the blade allows you to make slices with less chance of getting the blade stuck (contact is along a shorter length of the edge). Same reason cavalry sabers were curved - so they wouldn't get stuck and ripped out of your hand while you struck a blow from horseback.

      In that respect, the light saber duels in the movies with their "fancy" twirling and spinning is actually somewhat historically accurate to its namesake (more so than the fencing saber). And if people want to want to do this type of sparring using fake light sabers instead of traditional curved sabers, then all the ore power to them. (Presumably they're not curved because they can slice through anything so can't get stuck.)

    14. Re:wedgie by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I don't know about bullying a guy that had spent a couple hundred hours learning from a fencing instructor... light saber or other wise he could probably grab a broom stick and do some damage.

      We have footage of actual lightsaber duellists, and I'm not sure the bullies are worried.

      https://youtu.be/H_Z9orDS84c

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    15. Re:wedgie by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't think the technique of a lightsabre, if such things existed, would be anything like fencing. I'm thinking something more along the lines of the Chinese jian or longsword.

      https://youtu.be/4XTK0ursJkk

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    16. Re:wedgie by wwphx · · Score: 2

      I prefer "Everybody is someone else's weirdo." I pride myself on being able to fulfill that role for many people simultaneously.

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    17. Re:wedgie by lgw · · Score: 1

      The modern foil fencing saber is a bastardized form of the original saber,

      The sport fencing technique has no relation at all to acual historical saber technique (YouTube is full of HEMA videos that explain this - there's a whole different martial art for historical accuracy). BTW, many cavalry sabers were straight, designed primarily for thrusting as one rode by one's target.

      Light sabre fencing also has nothing to do with historical saber technique, but it wouldn't surprise me if they grow closer over time as the historical martial arts actually needed to be effective, and presumably will be used by those that do both.

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  4. Épée by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

    We don't go around calling your cities "Nouveau York" or "Laveington/Laverton".

    It's spelled "épée" not "epee".

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    1. Re:Épée by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      t. cheese-eating surrender monkey

    2. Re:Épée by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      t. cheese-eating surrender monkey

      I remember when this came out. It still makes me chuckle.

    3. Re:Épée by Livius · · Score: 1

      Nouveau York is ungrammatical. It's Nouvel-York.

    4. Re:Épée by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      No such word as "Nouvel". In the masculine form it's "nouveau" and in the feminine form it's "nouvelle".

      So it would be either "Nouveau York" or "Nouvelle York", depending on if you define "York" as male or female.

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  5. Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Now we just need to invent light sabers.

  6. No longer by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    The longer I live, the more I understand why nerds get bullied.

    Going to slow down substantially when the bullies find themselves beaten with glowing, sound emitting staffs.

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    1. Re:No longer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, being whapped with a light weight piece of plastic designed to not hurt anyone is going to intimidate the toughest of bullies. More likely, instead of getting a wedgie or a punch to the chest, you will get the ever-loving shit kicked out of you.

    2. Re:No longer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, being whapped with a light weight piece of plastic designed to not hurt anyone is going to intimidate the toughest of bullies. More likely, instead of getting a wedgie or a punch to the chest, you will get the ever-loving shit kicked out of you.

      Funny as fuck!

  7. Registered? by Kohath · · Score: 1

    What's the penalty for participating in an unregistered sport?

    1. Re:Registered? by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      What's the penalty for participating in an unregistered sport?

      They take your ball and go home.

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    2. Re:Registered? by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      Posting on YouTube.

    3. Re:Registered? by rukiddingme · · Score: 1

      I got busted lightsabering as a kid. They threw the book at me. When I said I had no idea it was an 'unregistered' sport, they told me 'ignorance is not a valid legal defense', and doubled my fine. True story!

    4. Re:Registered? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do they do on the third offense?

    5. Re:Registered? by tepples · · Score: 2

      I guess the penalty of competing in an unrecognized discipline of fencing was ineligibility for recognition of your club's activity by your country's governing body of fencing.

    6. Re:Registered? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nothing, you're out of balls by then. Or maybe they take your shaft?

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    7. Re:Registered? by Kohath · · Score: 1

      Surrender?

  8. This is going to be a real problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the year 2946 when real light sabers are created, and someone discovers this old law from 2019 that had long been forgotten about. It'll of course be excellent for the robot-arm and robot-hand industry, which will reap massive profits.

    1. Re:This is going to be a real problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Buzzfeed 2946: You'd never believe what country has actually discovered its legal to own and fight with lightsabers thanks to an ancient pre-dentonian law!"

  9. now that fat internet meme kid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    can finally be a champion jock and lose his virginity,

  10. You can't really expect the French to man up... by Crash+Dummy+Redux · · Score: 1

    Star Wars lightsaber fighting isn't the real thing. Spaceballs lightsaber fighting is the real thing.

    1. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How the hell did this hatred for the French thing get started? The French *politicians* may have given in to Hitler, but the French people were fucking badass and kept resisting the Nazis. Not to mention the French are one of America's oldest allies.

      I may not know how it got started, but I know why it continues. Baaaaaaaaa.

    2. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Crash+Dummy+Redux · · Score: 1

      The Simpsons, where else? ;)

    3. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey creimer!

      Buzz off with your space balls, simpsons and Funku Poops.

      By the way, how is the anti Bill Maher campaign going you big dummy?

      Attacking well known people like this is sure a great strategy to insure your long tail revenue streams!

      No target is too large for creimer given creimer's size.

      You know what? Bill Maher is right, only lunatic dummies like yourself attach such an importance to Funko Poops and super heroes!

      The rest of the comic cons attendance is just normal people like me that watch this type of material once in a while and go to comic cons for fun. They are far from being retarded maniacs like yourself.

      Good luck, you fifty year old child!
       

    4. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CROFLOL!

      Maybe creimer needs to "adulted" a bit then, maybe, just maybe he would relax a bit on the sock puppets useless posts.

      Sad, so sad.

    5. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You dummy yourself. This is waht is called a long tail niche market but you would not understand. I have several niche markets.

      And on the contrary, I plan to be able to retired in 2020. I told you creimertards how to do it but no, you were to smart to listen!

      I find AmazonTM the gretest thing since sliced bread and helps taking care of my health at retirement with the Amazon long tail revenue streams!

      All you need to do is find a website with a permissive TOS, say, Slashdot, create a Python script to scrape your own comments, sprinkle Amazon affiliate links in various posts, and then re-post past links whenever possible. You can even make video of yourself going to pick up AmazonTM parcel at the convenience store and post it on your youtube channel for more redundant revenue streams.

      They also have a wide supply, the best of lattes, clif/power bars and microwave popcorn at the best cost, espicially if you make a friend buy them for you with your own affiliate link!

      Also, I still use my iPhone 6s and reduce my monthly bill from $80 to $50. As a phone and a video camera, the iPhone 6s isn't obsolete and I use it to make my videos on youtube. As a Sprint very special customer for 20+ years, Sprint will always give me a new iPhone for free if I decide to stop using the 6s as a phone in the next several years.
      UPDATE: Santa brough me a Panasonic HC-V180K camcorder for Christmas to replace my iPhone 6s for recording #YouTube videos.

      I use PhotoShop daily!

      I have a hearing loss in one ear, so my audio will always be suspect. I use a Zoom H2 audio recorder with a pop filter 12" away from my mouth, Audacity to clean up and normalize the audio, and sync the audio to the video and apply a "voice enhancement" eq to the audio in the video editor.

      My PC has an eight-core processor and a Nvidia 1050 Ti 4GB video card. A minute of 1080p video renedered on the processor takes a minute. A minute of 1080p video renedered on the Nvidia card takes 10 seconds. I don't think an iPad has the same performance of my PC for renedering videos longer than a short clip.

      I can't imagine using Photoshop without a keyboard and mouse, or not being able to access my files from my file server. Video renedering on the iPad will probably suck donkey balls.

      Blackmagic also charges high prices for their gear as Apple does. Need an HDMI to USB3 capture device? Blackmagic is $300. Any generic company is $50.

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      The background file for my national security clearance got stolen by the Chinese a few years ago That contained a lot more information than the credit reports that Uncle Sam requested from all three bureaus.

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    6. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please go away.

    7. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Crash+Dummy+Redux · · Score: 1

      You're being too polite. These bastards need to fuck off.

    8. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was talking about yourself, creimer.

    9. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Crash+Dummy+Redux · · Score: 1

      I'm not creimer. Fuck off.

    10. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as much as you wish you weren't that obese middle-aged failure
      you just are
      only you can effect change in your life chris
      starting by quitting this site and stop spending money you don't have for things that won't work

    11. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Crash+Dummy+Redux · · Score: 1

      I'm. Not. Creimer. Fuck. Off. Again.

    12. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you. certainly. are.
      stop. denying. it.
      again.
      btw i might end up in california in spring
      i can take you out to panda express

    13. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Creimer is too busy making YouTube videos and taking on The Verge for copy striking the tech community.

    14. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Crash+Dummy+Redux · · Score: 1

      Fuck off, asshole.

    15. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mirror, mirror, tell me who's got the biggest asshole, CDR or me?

      Sad, so sad...

    16. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, oh... it seems like Chris is out of meds again.

      Let's all start a donation campaign to provide him some.

    17. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't really expect creimer to man up...

      FTFY.

    18. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL! first Bill Maher then, a whole country; the French people.

      I guess that, as another poster as suggested, no target is too large for creimer given creimer's own size.

    19. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you're taking this awful personal for someone who isnt creimer
      who the hell is creimer anyways

    20. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're offering to take an armed federal agent to lunch after harassing him on Slashdot? He might shoot you and claim self-defense. Please proceed, fool.

    21. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eat shit, shithead!

    22. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have a temp agency job as an IT janitor at the FBI.
      Which you're not supposed to talk about but you do and that's why we know.
      But way to impersonate a federal agent and make threats.
      I've flagged this comment and the management will know if it's you.

    23. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i can't
      you ate it all already
      that never ending hunger huh chris

    24. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have a temp agency job as an IT janitor at the FBI. Which you're not supposed to talk about but you do and that's why we know. But way to impersonate a federal agent and make threats. I've flagged this comment and the management will know if it's you.

      That you harass creimer on Slashdot and offer to take him out to lunch could be viewed as a threat. If you are outside of California, a federal offense across state lines. Keep digging your hole!

    25. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol but you are not creimer
      besides offering to take you to lunch to panda express is a threat....

      to panda express

    26. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not the one who offered to take you to lunch.
          I'm the one who gives you advice like learn new shit, apply for jobs in your neighborhood, pay off your credit cards , go to therapy. Anyhow I've never reached out to you in any way off slashhdot and even though I call you names I really would like to see you help yourself.

      Here's an idea: SV is full of career enhancing nerd events. Why don't you join a club and build a robot or something? You like going to sci-fi cons. It's very similar.
      Anyhow I didn't actually report you because it would be a shitty thing to have trouble over. I know you're not a federal agent and if you're armed in cali you shouldn't be but I doubt you're going to actually hurt anyone.
      But like I said it would be a shitty way to land in trouble and you have a federal job so you need to be careful what you're saying on the internet. On facebook or reddit I've seen people get pulled into questioning for shit like that. Fortunately it seems like the police are relatively understanding and I've never heard of anyone actually being prosecuted except for that 4chan kid who was posting threats against the superbowl, which is admittedly next level compared to what you did... But still it's probably not fun.

      Just one more reason to get a private sector job, the pay is better and if you get in trouble nobody at work will know anything if you have to take a day off to explain to the police that you were being an online blowhard.

      I personally think it would be a nice video if you and FCLM hung out one sunny day. "CDREIMER FEEDS THE TROLLS IRL" lol. Anyhow I think the guy is canadian so it's hard to say if he would actually meet up at panda express if you accepted his offer. I've met up with an online foe IRL it was actually a good time. People are nicer IRL.

      you harass creimer on Slashdot and offer to take him out to lunch could be viewed as a threat.

      Not a lawyer but I actually checked for you if he's actually calling you on the phone to annoy you then you might have a weak case against him. But if he's in canada I doubt you'd have the resources to pursue this and keep the judges interested in a two year tit for tat on a web 1.0 forum.

      btw i might end up in california in spring
      i can take you out to panda express

      Imagine going to school for 8 years plus 10 years as an attorney before becoming a judge. Now imagine trying to stomach wasting a bunch of time on a case where Exhibit A is "i can take you out to panda express"

    27. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "You're offering to take an armed federal agent to lunch"

      armed with what, chris?

      bad breath?

      that personality?

      force me to watch you lisp and stutter your way through your videos?

    28. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " I've met up with an online foe IRL it was actually a good time. People are nicer IRL."

      yes this goes back to bbs days for me
      i had a few gt events in the late '80s and we all laughed about it

    29. Re:You can't really expect the French to man up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah it's really fun times. I'd have a beer with either of you.

  11. Kendo? They invented Kendo? by OzPeter · · Score: 2

    Seriously .. it looks like Kendo .. https://youtu.be/n7XfOA7Ly6U

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    1. Re:Kendo? They invented Kendo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hardly a surprise considering most "Lightsaber Clubs" use Kendo technique as a model.

    2. Re:Kendo? They invented Kendo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't look like Kendo. Kendo is a ritualised sport based on limited strikes at limited targets derived from a subset of katana moves used for teaching militia.

      This lightsaber fighting is designed to be open with wild swings (scoring shots have to start with the point behind you) and flourishes so that it looks like the fighting in the prequel films. Star Wars fanatics have been doing this for decades. The French have decided to try and use it to bring young people in to fencing, put out a press release and gotten worldwide coverage. I don't think it will work, as those interested are more likely to move into HEMA than foil. IT will provide some entertainment for the crowd during fencing bouts.

  12. No harm in it by Ogive17 · · Score: 2

    If it gets more people interested in these "combat" sports, why not? Those that really enjoy the sport might eventually switch to one of the more traditional weapons. This could bring a big boost to the national program for France.

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    1. Re:No harm in it by hey! · · Score: 1

      If people are having fun, why does it have to accomplish anything?

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    2. Re:No harm in it by Ogive17 · · Score: 1

      Not claiming it does. However increased participation and exposure to sword fighting sports will eventually strengthen their program.

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  13. are you even familiar with how children behave? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Better than savagely beating each other with sticks they found outside, like when I was a kid.

    1. Re:are you even familiar with how children behave? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except of course, that you learn that getting hit with shit can hurt.

    2. Re:are you even familiar with how children behave? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I was a kid there was a tall shrub we called 'devil's walking stick' that was hardwood and had sharp woody thorns. We tended to make our fighting sticks out of that. You learned to guard that way.

    3. Re:are you even familiar with how children behave? by Your.Master · · Score: 1

      Do you seriously think that's confusing to children?

      Either children sometimes get hit with shit regardless of whether they beat each other with sticks, in which case they learn anyway.

      Or they don't sometimes get hit, in which case it doesn't matter whether they learn it because it never happens.

  14. Kendo The Japanses sport by ardmhacha · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Japanese sport of Kendo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... using a bamboo sword called a shinai https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... is very close to lightsaber fighting.

  15. It's no weirder than real fencing by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2

    It's really no weirder than a sport based on obsolete weaponry (used in a way that that nobody gets hurt with).

    In today's world, light sabers are not especially more fictional that swords, as far as everyday life goes.

  16. Well... Less likely to get hurt? by foxalopex · · Score: 2

    It seems like fun unless you get nailed in the wrong place. Thou I wonder if plastic stick dueling (which is more accurate) would take the fun out of it.

  17. This Ain't Fencing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ugh. I'm a rated epee fencer who's been competing since, like, 1986. The great thing about fencing is that it is full-on combat. The weapon bends to take up the force of your attack, so you can legitimately try to put it right through your opponent's rib cage ( or wrist, as the case may be).

    This seems like a pale imitation of real fencing. I suppose it's cute, but it ain't close to the real thing. Sweat, steel, and Canvas is still my idea of a great night out.

    On the other hand, I reckon it's cheaper than Kendo.

  18. Oh, that's nothing... by Erbo · · Score: 1
    I saw bat'leth dueling at MileHiCon once. That would be fun.

    Among other things, the duelists tended to freely acknowledge when their opponents scored a hit. It was the honorable thing to do.

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    1. Re:Oh, that's nothing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I remember right, Bat'leth fighting is mostly based on Staff fighting, with some modifications since the "ends" of the Bat'leth curve which mean normal "staff blocks" need to be further away (so the opposing Bat'leth doesn't just curve over the top and kill you ... unlike a staff which is straight).

  19. wait, what... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean fencing? That's already a thing.

  20. Buckshot! by Zorro · · Score: 2

    You are NOT deflecting all 9 pellets of 00 Buckshot with a lightsaber!.

  21. Fencing has a problem by Harvey+Manfrenjenson · · Score: 2

    I've said this before (and promptly got yelled at in the comments), but I'll say it again:

    The problem with Western fencing is that it just isn't much fun to watch. This is true even if you've done some fencing yourself, and can sort-of follow what is going on. In recent years, the Olympic bouts haven't even been televised.

    The main issue is that the action is over in about two seconds. The other issue is that you usually can't follow what happened in those two seconds. Quite often it appears that both fencers have scored a hit, and the question of who gets a point comes down to the judge's interpretation of arcane "right-of-way" rules.

    This is just wrong. Swordfighting is supposed to be fun to watch! How on earth do you take a swordfight and turn it into something duller than a golf tournament? Western fencing rules, that's how.

    It's time they developed some variant forms of fencing. To begin with, get rid of the idea that the action should grind to a halt whenever anyone scores a valid touch-- and get rid of the idea that anything which happens a half-second after the touch "doesn't count". Boxing doesn't work that way. MMA doesn't work that way. Neither does real swordfighting, I would imagine.

    While you're at it, why does everything have to take place on a fencing strip, where your only options for movement are "forward" and "back"? What is this, a side-scroller video game?

    (Of course, on a serious note, I recognize that traditional Western fencing has its devoted followers, and I'm not suggesting that it should be abandoned. But variant forms can, and should, exist along the traditional forms.)

    1. Re:Fencing has a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The main issue is that the action is over in about two seconds. The other issue is that you usually can't follow what happened in those two seconds.

      I have the exact same issue with American football...

  22. Color me unimpressed by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    Still much less popular than the #1 sport in France: White flag waving!

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  23. A Grave Situation by nnet · · Score: 1

    Errol Flynn is rolling over in his grave.