President Trump Wants US To Win 5G Through Real Competition (bbc.com)
hackingbear writes: In a tweet, President Trump said he wanted "5G, and even 6G, technology in the United States as soon as possible. I want the United States to win through competition, not by blocking out currently more advanced technologies. American companies must step up their efforts, or get left behind." While he did not specifically mention China's Huawei, many interpreted the comments as Mr Trump taking a softer stance on the firm. The U.S. has been pressuring allies to block out the Chinese telecom giant from their future 5G mobile networks, but the tactic meets considerable resistance. "Mr. President. I cannot agree with you more. Our company is always ready to help build the real 5G network in the U.S., through competition," Huawei President Ken Hu replied in a tweet, mocking Trump's frequent usages of the word "real." Huawei is the second biggest holder of 5G patents after Samsung and the top contributor to the 5G standard, and is setting its sight on 6G.
I thought 5G was just a software update. This is just fake news because everyone is jealous that AT&T are the only people investing in making 5G a reality and were the first to do so.
Oh great, phonetards are getting high-speed conduits to share their retardation even faster than usual.
We need phone/desktop apartheid, segregate the phonetards from the enlightened desktop master race.
Thanks, I wouldn't have known what to think without a slashdot submitter telling me that Huawei was mocking Trump.
I will propagate this meme.
Only 6G? fuck it, let's do 7G
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I'm a peripheral visionary.
And use all the money saved on patent licensing fees in cell tower rollouts so more people can get their rated 3g HSPA/4g LTE service without quotas or capping?
Does he even understand what that word means?
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
America invented 5G
More fake news
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WindBourne
As though Trump would know anything about competition.
He only won his "competition" with Russians stepping up their social engineering techniques on a gullible public, and the GOP blocking votes from being being counted in congressional races.
5G is so passe and actually exists. 6G is obviously where the competition is heading next. We need 7G before anyone else. Hell let's set the bar high: 8G.
I'm waiting for 11G... 10G will be the first double-digit standard and will thus be buggy. 11G will have the wrinkles out. Anything less is just kiddie stuff.
And you Hillalosery child rapiers devil worship bitches can suck a dick.
In Trump We Trust. Fake News Gonna Burn In Hell.
Fuck the 5 and 6. Lucky 7G! for the win!
A real competition where he picks who gets to play is not a real competition.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
What American companies? They all got sold because American's can't figure out how to run a business.... kind of the Trump way of life I guess.
you have to try with real competition.
You canâ(TM)t tell the useful idiots that theyâ(TM)re idiots if you need them. And she needed some of them.
She couldnâ(TM)t smile and nod, and let these people believe theyâ(TM)re important. She was a terrible candidate.
"mocking Trump's frequent usages of the word "real."
Does anyone in their right mind believe the president of Huawei was somehow "mocking" president Trump's apparent overture to free trade? That has to be the stupidest most lying propagandist comment I have ever read.
If anything Huawei's president was insinuating that because Huawei holds the most 5G patents that it was in the best position to build "real" 5G networks. Not everything is about making Trump look bad.
These are serious geopolitical and world trade issues that the world's number 1 economy (China) and the US are trying to work out for mutual benefit.
Getting in a jab at president Trump, especially a false one that if misinterpreted could sour relations and eventually lead to war if the war hawks prevail in their insane quest to kill us all... is irresponsible.
So he is going to ask the Russian to stop fixing American elections when he tries for a second term?
4 years ago we got on a contract with AT&T for 10mbps fiber at 3 locations.
They oversold the product and couldn't give us SIP Trunks for older POTS PBX's. Literally told the rep "sell me a phone system, give me a number", he didn't want to. Not that it wasn't time to change them out but hey. Found an ISP who could who snagged the business.
Doing the work to get us right with them before going to another vendor, I discovered our project manager was out in the phillipines, and they were sending CCNA certified contractors (really just kids) to do wiring jobs because union labor was just too expensive. I got 9, Cisco 10,000 series routers, $10k a pop, shipped to me because the order got re-entered several times. After we moved to a new ISP it took them a full year for the "asset recovey team" to give me a call and send labels. There's a reason nobody likes doing business with AT&T or any of the large carriers; they don't care because they don't have to.
Right now we're working against a telecom oligopoly that needs to be broken up; Huawei are a bunch of bastards just like any US corporation with the distinct difference being that US Corps know not to taunt ant government openly. Do that first.
Also, really great idea. If your company is caught shipping devices that have backdoors for your governement in them into the US for the purpose of engaging in espionage, not only do your products get banned from being imported into the US permanently, but your companies patents get invalided as well and the tech goes public. We need to learn not to engage in warfare via economics and that's the only way how, make the cost of doing that astronomically high.
I wonder what 6G and 7G are. X-Rays and Gamma rays so everyone can get cancer?
those pick-pockets should really rename their "5e" to "5real".
is that someone here called him "President Trump" instead of just Trump!
Trump said he wants to go to 6G now. He is clueless.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/02/trump-demands-quick-rollout-of-6g-wireless-tech-which-doesnt-exist/
SO 6G==?????
Optical?
First, block / kill / destroy any outside border competition, not because cheap and superior performance, but because they are EVIL.
Second, I think my right arm is the viner, it has more muscles.
I don't trust the Chinese because of possible hidden agendas.
I don't trust Donald Trump because he is stupid.
I love it when art imitates life that then imitates art! Skip to around 1:20 for all the g's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ntPxdWAWq8
How short sighted, to completely overlook 7G.
Or 100G for that matter? This guy really has no clue, clearly.
Funny when you read this "American companies must step up" while the FTC is suing Qualcomm.
Glad I got out of this business: everybody wants the technology, but nobody wants to pay for its development, and then allow companies, some foreign others domestic, who stole the technology to "compete" with those who actually developed it.
"I found the enemy, the enemy is us", as the old line goes.
Trump could have real competition if poor people were allowed to raise capital without giving a million dollars to lawyers. But this is opposed by the rich and communists, who control the economy and government, so Trump will do what they tell him.
While Trump is not good at hiding his lack of scientific and technical knowledge, most Congressmen don't know much about science either. Bill Nelson, and maybe Richard Shelby, were probably the only people in the USA Senate whom knew something about Rocket Science.
Why not go to 7G or even 8G?
There's plenty positive integers left.
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I'm pretty sure that's the proper spelling
Since some telecoms are slapping 5G on their 4G LTE networks this year they might as well complete the farce and slap on 6G tags next year!
So is T-mint on or off? Arguable more competitors better except the top two have extensive size advantages. As explain by others, likewise for standards. Then there is Huawei , from one perspective they help competition but given their state backing, is it in interests of democracies to cede so much power ? Multiple vendors are usually good for competition and spreading risk. Keep debating since important like democracies despite their flaws, the alternative so far worse.
can someone tell Trump that there are no American telecom suppliers.
You didn't say anything related to the post you replied to. The average American produces over twice the CO2 as the average Chinaman.
Per country just shows how clueless and trolling you are. Not as good as the initial troll that got you to bite though.
Per capita, China is #3.
Oh sorry I didn't realise you are just WindBourne lying again...nevermind...
By country, of course a country over 4 times as populous will produce more CO2. But they don't make 4 times as much do they...So they must be cleaner.
If you think per country is useful, how will you drop your 5000 down to say Canada's 550?
Or is America doing OK and the goal for each country should be to increase their CO2 up to 5000, and only China needs to drop?
You per country people make me laugh.