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'Captain Marvel' Review Bombers Have Dropped Rotten Tomatoes Audience Rating To Lowest Among MCU Movies (comicbook.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: The fake Rotten Tomatoes review onslaught continues for Captain Marvel, giving the film the lowest-rating of all Marvel Cinematic Universe movies on the site nearly two weeks ahead of its release. As of this writing, Captain Marvel now has a 28% Audience Rating, a whopping 18 points below the next lowest MCU flick -- 2008's The Incredible Hulk. Starting earlier this week, a certain section of the internet -- for whatever reason -- decided to start filing fake negative reviews in an attempt to purposefully lower the film's Audience Rating.

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  1. Completely FALSE by ChodaBoyUSA · · Score: 5, Informative

    These are NOT reviews! This is the Audience "WANT TO SEE" rating, which is completely different. People NOT wanting to see a film, is NOT review bombing. STOP LYING!

    1. Re:Completely FALSE by ITRambo · · Score: 4, Informative

      I have no idea why you're being called a Troll. Your comment is 100% factual. The figure represents "Want to see" comments. There is not audience score yet as the movie hasn't been released. I believe it will do okay, like The Last Jedi,. but probably not as well as other Marvel movies unless the story is far more awesome than the previews make it look.

    2. Re:Completely FALSE by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 3, Insightful

      These are NOT reviews! STOP LYING!

      Be quiet, you'll mess up the narrative. We're a victim, always a victim, somebody's out to get us.

      Brie Larson: "I don't need a 40-year-old white dude to tell me what didn't work about A Wrinkle in Time," said Larson. "It wasn't made for him."

      So I guess your new flick wasn't made for me, either. I haven't logged anything with RT; I don't care WHAT they think. They're another site I completely ignore. (Earlier someone called me a Nazi for ignoring Huffington Post and Arianna -- I guess this makes me a DOUBLE Nazi. Cool, do I get an award I can hang in my garage next to my Confederate Flag? (That's sarcasm if you can't tell -- I don't have a garage.)

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    3. Re: Completely FALSE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Reviewers who get invited to early private screening are almost always overly positive. They want to keep being invited to those things to maintain their "status". Studios don't invite people who might be critical. Same thing happened with The Last Jedi.

    4. Re: Completely FALSE by lgw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Look at Nike. Did the ad with Colin Kaepernick, outrage, videos of people burning their trainers... And Nike's value increased by six billion dollars.

      Nike knows their audience. Colin Kaepernick is popular with the sort of people who buy Nike. They market well to their niche.

      That same message doesn't "play well in the suburbs". Boring mainstream culture is not a fan, and football overall has suffered diminished audiences. Gillette's ad was a mistake IMO, because it's the boring mainstream culture that buys most razors, but since people almost never switch household brands as an adult, they may be gambling that it will play well to teens and not hurt mainstream sales.

      Same message, two different demographic groups, two different results.

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    5. Re: Completely FALSE by Luckyo · · Score: 5, Informative

      Please don't mix social democrats in SJW insanity. They're desperately trying to take over social democratic parties in many Scandinavian countries today, and they're more abhorrent to most of us in that camp than they are to you.

      To you, they're just ideological opponents. To us, they're people who are trying to subvert our core message of empowering and managing capitalism to fund wide scale social programs available to everyone regardless of their sex and race to its polar opposite: socializing capital and forcibly redistributing the wealth based on sex and racial stereotypes they hold.

    6. Re:Completely FALSE by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Informative

      We're a victim, always a victim, somebody's out to get us.

      To be clear are you implying that the film is not being "want to see" bombed? Maybe have a look at how many ratings this movie is getting vs any other movie on Rotten Tomatoes and then come back and tell me if you still think someone's not out to get them.

      Since you're probably busy I'll give you a spoiler: Captain Marvel currently has 70x more "want to see ratings" than most movies coming out this year, 40x more than all other super hero movies coming out this year with the exception of this years biggest expected blockbuster: Avengers Endgame. ... It's only 4x more than that, and significantly the Avengers game is 98% positive.

      Odds are, they are really out to get them.

    7. Re:Completely FALSE by mark-t · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Your argument reminds me of this

      34. Success Immunity, or "They must be doing something right!"

      We often hear this when a successful individual or organization is justly criticized for unethical habits, routines, tendencies or policies, and defenders recoil at the suggestion that a successful formula might be altered in any way. Thus have cruel hazing traditions by winning football coaches received official passes from greedy university presidents, and careless and risky management practices been ignored by voters, as long as an elected leader's policies haven't imploded yet. Success immunity is related to #10, the King's Pass, but it is even more illogical: it assumes that the wrongful and irresponsible aspects of an individual's or organization's conduct must somehow be part of a magic recipe for success, rather than a serious flaw in that recipe that can and should be removed. "The chef puts a roach in his soup? Well, it's delicious! He must be doing something right!" I'm sure he is, but that something isn't the roach. This rationalization embodies the popular and over-used conservative mantra, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." The problems with that cliche are 1) things that aren't broken can still be improved, 2) things that are broken will often keep working until they fall apart and someone is hurt, and 3) "not broken" is a long way from "the best it can be." "They must be doing something right!" carries this illogic to the point of absurdity by asserting that what clearly is broken should still not be fixed, because the individual or organization continues to be successful in spite of it, on the Bizarro World theory that the perceived success could somehow be a result of it. Like many rationalizations on this list, Success Immunity twists common sense to avoid admitting that obviously unethical conduct is what it is: wrong.

  2. Re: Movie reviews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's not reviews, it's audience interest. It's literally asking "Are you interested in this movie?" and most people said no. It's not a review of the movie. This is fake news.

  3. Reivews? What reviews? by Noishkel · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'll point out that no one is posting review on this movie yet, they're merely posting weather or not they want to see the movie.

    And that reality really does show exactly what's wrong with sites like Comicbook.com. They're more interested in pushing a narrative than anything else.

  4. Get woke go broke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Pushing identity politics agendas really just ends up alienating markets. There's so many great movies with female leads that did really well without ever having to push the "straight white male bad!" narrative that Larson tried, and then went into damage control mode after pressure from Disney.

    Alien
    Wonder Woman
    Terminator
    X Files
    Hunger Games
    Resident Evil
    Rogue One
    Mad Max: Fury Road
    Avatar
    Fifth Element
    Annihilation
    etc..

  5. Re:Movie reviews (But not really) by Chas · · Score: 5, Informative

    No. They're not bombing reviews.
    Because the movie isn't out yet. So RT isn't accepting reviews for the film's Tomatometer score yet.

    What is being affected is the "Want to see" score (currently at 29% and falling).
    This is where the person marks whether or not they are interested in seeing the film.

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  6. These aren't REVIEWS. Please stop saying that by sbrown123 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    These are "do you plan to see the movie" responses. Actual public movie reviews are only available AFTER the movie is released in theaters. Boring as hell movie trailers and sexist marketing hurt this movie. I imagine this movie will still do well but it will cast a shadow on future Marvel movies (similar to what Last Jedi did to the Solo movie). Someone at Disney needs fired for this mess.

  7. Re: Movie reviews by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 3, Informative

    This should not be modded down, it is actually the truth. I don't think I can blame people for not being interested in Captain Marvel either... it's not a superhero name most people are familiar with.

  8. Re:Movie reviews by Layzej · · Score: 3, Informative

    42,343 user ratings for Captain marvel vs 139 for Wonder Park, 114 for Triple Frontier, 58 for The Kid, or 43 for I'm Not Here. Seems like a coordinated effort by Culture Warriors fighting the good fight against the first.

  9. Brie Larson's activism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/02/05/brie-larson-captain-marvel-is-my-form-of-activism

    The movie was the biggest and best opportunity I could have ever asked for. It was, like, my superpower. This could be my form of activism: doing a film that can play all over the world and be in more places than I can be physically.”

    Larson does get back to her idea of turning Captain Marvel into an opportunity to push her activism. “Inclusion has to be a choice; it’s not happening naturally. You really have to fight for it.”

    I just wanna see an entertaining super-hero comic-book flick, not some preachy vehicle for Larson's "activism". Apparently many people feel the same. It's not all about you and your politics, Brie.

  10. Re:GB for Girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Carol Danvers has more recently taken the title Captain Marvel but her character under the title of Ms Marvel has been part of the Marvel universe for years.

  11. Re:GB for Girls by H_Fisher · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps, in our hyper sensitive, over victimized culture, people are tired of changes made solely in the name of "equality".

    But the second comic book iteration of Captain Marvel was a different woman, Monica Rambeau. She first appeared in 1982 and held the Captain Marvel title 'til 1996, appearing again in other forms. (Source: http://comicbookdb.com/charact...)

    I'm no fan of change for change's sake, but let's not pretend that the character has always been a white guy. I've got no reason to complain about Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel, and I'm looking forward to at least seeing the movie when it comes out, before I judge it too harshly.

  12. Is this just an attempt to drum up controversy? by rsilvergun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's no background, just a link to the page. And as another poster pointed out it's not reviews, it's the "Want to See" rating.

    It's possible somebody is using bots or just plain organizing a movement against the film for some reason or another (I can't imagine what, sure it's a female lead but so what? It's not like Supergirl gets this treatment or that the gender swapped Batman or something).

    Without context this looks like more click bait meant to exploit the ongoing SJW debate on the Internet. It shouldn't have been greenlit. It's an obnoxious attempt to get more folks clicking /. links for one more ad impression. Shame on you /. editors.

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  13. Re: Movie reviews by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Funny

    NO! We can put out infinite numbers of cartoon based superhero stories all with essentially the same plotline and people will line up to see them forever! It has to be bombers! No wait... it could be.... RUSSIAN bombers!!!

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  14. Re:GB for Girls by dhasenan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is indeed unfortunate that white men are only represented in leading roles in Marvel films via Steve Rogers, Bruce Banner, Tony Stark, Peter Parker, Thor, Wade Wilson, Eddie Brock, Frank Castle, Stephen Strange, Peter Quill, and Scott Lang. Equality is nice and all, but the Marvel Cinematic Universe has only had fifteen movies starring white men, three with ensemble casts, one with a black man as lead, one with both a man and a woman in title roles, and zero with leading women. Isn't that enough? Shouldn't women be happy as supporting characters and, 5% of the time, secondary protagonists?

    It's also terrible that the film writers chose to stick with the 2012 canon of Ms Marvel taking on the role of Captain Marvel, becoming the first -- sorry, the... fourth? female Captain Marvel, a role that had previously been exclusively reserved for men since the character's inception in 1967 -- whoops, the Monica Rambeau storyline from 1982 to 1993 -- sorry, the Phylla-Vell era Captain Marvel's end and replacement in 2007. This is unprecedented revisionism just for the sake of views. Male roles should remain male roles.

  15. Re:GB for Girls by tempo36 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Seriously...like the late 70s. People who think this is some sort of gender swap in the name of equality are showing just how comic book clueless they actually are.

  16. Re:Movie reviews by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    some juvenile Fedora wearing basement dwellers no doubt have a problem with female leads

    Bad movie after bad movie has gone to this excuse, but it's largely bullshit. Yes, there's some tiny group like that. No, they don't matter. That's not why people didn't like the sad Ghostbusters reboot, That's not why people didn't like The Last Jedi.

    A large subsection of the comic-book movie crowd are apparently intimidated by leading ladies.

    A non-zero subsection, but there's no reason to believe it's "large", except as a worn-out excuse for a bad movie. No, moviegoers don't hate women. Comic books especially have always led entertainment when it comes to diversity, and comic book fans have never had a problem with that.

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  17. Re:For whatever reason? by tempo36 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Captain Marvel was caught in a explosion in 1969. In 1977 it was revealed that Carol Danvers inherited his powers to become Ms Marvel. So folks have had since 1977 to deal with this. It's not like Marvel suddenly looked at the Trump administration and MAGA folks and said, "Let's take away their cherished male superhero!"

  18. Re:Never trust review aggregator scores by lgw · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's the power of democracy. It's not rule by assholes who imagine they're smarter than everyone else. That's why it's the least bad system that's ever been tried.

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  19. Re: Movie reviews by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Honestly, most people outside of comics fans didn't know who Iron Man was either prior to his movie. He was considered a minor hero that Marvel was trotting out to test the waters for a big movie release. They expected Iron Man to barely make a profit and just act as set up for future blockbusters. Instead, it was a huge success and now Tony Stark is a household name.

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  20. Re: Movie reviews by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most of the people who have heard of Captain Marvel probably think "Shazam".

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  21. Re:Movie reviews by mark-t · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Women in general are not physiologically strong. .... The reality is ... "

    Assuming you didn't deliberately intend to sound like a misogynist, you know this is a movie about a comic book superhero, right?

  22. Re: "Strong women scare the hell out of..." by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Feminists have a fucked up idea of what "strong" is. Asshole is asshole. We don't like male assholes either.

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  23. Re:Movie reviews by fortythirteen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    40k+ for a Marvel movie, compared to four movies I've never heard of? That looks like some seriously cherry-picked data manufactured for outrage.

    Avengers Endgame has over 10k with a 98% "want to see" score, and that doesn't even come out for 2 months. The last Avengers movie has 52k.

  24. Re: Movie reviews by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 4, Informative

    True, Anonymous Coward.

    I'm GenX - Age 52 in less than a month. In the comics I read as a kid, Captain Marvel was always a DC Property - That's how I know the name.

    Billy Batson says "SHAZAM!" and turns into Captain Marvel:

    https://static.comicvine.com/u...

    I'm still keen to see the Marvel movie, though. It looks fun.

  25. To amplify the point by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, moviegoers don't hate women. Comic books especially have always led entertainment when it comes to diversity, and comic book fans have never had a problem with that.

    To amplify the point, no one had a problem with Ripley gunning down Aliens - it was an awesome movie and perhaps one of the best SF movies of all time.

    No one has a problem with Black Widow tricking Loki into revealing his plans, or largely holding her own against the Winter Soldier. I saw both of those and was impressed at how female characters in Marvel movies are *not* useless. Including Maria Hill gunning down the attacker on the helicarrier bridge. (Also of note: no one cares that Nick Fury is played by a black man, it's extremely well done.)

    There's an interesting article(*) on Breitbart that sums up the current situation: a) Hollywood engages in hatred towards half the country, and b) this wouldn't be a problem if the movies were any good. As it turns out they're not any good, and this is just us hating you back.

    From the article:

    Yes, we’ve been insulted, and we’re sick of it. But I can overlook a lot of insults if you give me something worthy of praise. Maria Callas insulted a lot of people, but we still wanted to hear her sing. Can we say the same about the films nominated for Best Picture?

    A specific instance cited in the article is Spike Lee's "BlackkKlansman" (nominated best picture this round) compared to "Giant" (1957). Spike Lee's movie casts whites as evil while doling out liberal doses of shame and humiliation, while at the end of "Giant" the audience is visibly rooting for Rock Hudson fighting with a racist diner owner.

    Same message, good (versus bad) delivery.

    Maybe this is why movie attendance is low, and oscars attendance is really low: the movies are crap, we're sick of the insults, and we don't like being brow-beaten with your social justice message.

    (*) Yes, it's from Breitbart, get over it. It's an insightful article that largely describes the problem, and attacking the source is not the same as discussing the content.

  26. This is from the Studio. False Flag by supercell · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have watched this closely. There have been numerous very recently stories about how men are bashing this movie etc. Yet, as far as I can tell no one has or can bash this movie. Having followed film releases, a similar strategy seems to emerge. The studios get a pre-relase feed back, realize the film is going to bomb and purposely find a group to blame the poor showing on. So they are false flagging basement dwelling men as the reason this film will do poorly. They already know it's audience pre-screening is bad, so they are going to find something to blame other than themselves.

  27. Western values under attack by Socguy · · Score: 4, Informative

    If anyone has been paying attention to what's been happening in the world of weaponized trolling, this should surprise no one. Paid foreign actors who are looking to sew discord (in largely western society) are taking up both sides of many issues (social and political) they think can be blown up into a polarizing argument. They spam away on social media, youtube, twitter etc. Along they way they hope to drag as many folks as possible into the never ending argument quagmire. By dividing a population and causing internal turmoil, they create space for their political overlords to operate with less outside scrutiny.

    Don't play their games. Next time you think you should argue with some idiot on the internet save your energy for things that actually matter.

  28. Re: Movie reviews by CronoCloud · · Score: 4, Informative

    Marvel's Captain Marvel, on the other hand? A relative unknown. I had been peripherally aware that Marvel had someone by that name in their hero pantheon, but until recently I thought he was male.

    Hand in your Nerd card. Carol Danvers became Captain Marvel (well Ms. Marvel), when she got zapped by the Kree Psyche Magnetron in 1977. The Kree "Captain Mar-Vell"... well he died, Carol then adopted his name to honor his memory.

    Monica Rambeau (currently Spectrum) also used the name when Carol got depowered by Rogue just before she joined the X-Men.

    All of that happened decades ago.

    Sharon Ventura (altered human who got her powers during the Things UCWF storyline) and Kamala Khan (Inhuman ancestry, Inhumans are a Human derived species who are Kree experiments) have also used the name Ms. Marvel

  29. Re: Movie reviews by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Feminists *have* done a lot for women. Women once could not vote. Maybe you don't like today's brand of feminist, but I really don't see why you would compare feminists to an organization who's famous for murdering black people for being black.

    I think a good argument can be made that modern feminists have gone too far. But you know what else is too far? Equating them to the KKK. Are you really trying to combat hysterical overreaction, with even more hysterical overreaction?

  30. A little history... by artemis67 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Captain Marvel was created by Fawcett Comics over a year and a half after Superman was created by DC Comics. The character did so well that he was outselling Superman in the 40's.

    DC Comics filed suit against Fawcett, claiming that Captain Marvel was a rip-off of Superman. DC prevailed in court in 1953, and Fawcett was forced to retire Captain Marvel permanently.

    In the late 60's, Marvel Comics acquired the rights to the name "Captain Marvel," and created a superhero that was completely different from both the original Captain Marvel and Superman. Thus, they couldn't be sued by DC.

    In 1972, as comic books were surging in popularity, DC was looking for new properties to publish and licensed the Captain Marvel characters from Fawcett. But when they tried to publish the comic book as "The Original Captain Marvel," Marvel Comics sent DC a cease-and-desist letter. Thus DC had to retitle the comic book, "Shazam!"

    In order to retain their trademark, Marvel must publish a Captain Marvel title at least once every two years.

  31. And I think these are BOTH good examples... by gosand · · Score: 4, Insightful

    of how impressive the majority of the Marvel movies have been.

    I am not a comic nerd, but I knew who Iron Man was. To be honest, I wasn't all that interested in seeing it when it came out, I caught it on DVD (Netflix). Needless to say, I was pretty blown away by how much I liked it. Then along comes Guardians of the Galaxy. I thought it was the beginning of the end of the Marvel movies when I saw the trailer for it. I thought they had scraped the bottom of the barrel. I didn't even see it until the 2nd movie came out on DVD, and because the reviews were good, we watched them both. Again - very surprised at how much I like them. Same with the Deadpool movies, and with Punisher on Netflix. Marvel keeps surprising me with how good they can make these movies/shows, with just the right amount of action and humor. Maybe it's because I don't really know anything about those characters is what makes it good for me, there is nothing for them to spoil.

    I'll watch Captain Marvel when it comes out on DVD regardless of reviews.
    I watched Aquaman with my wife because of Jason Momoa, so we're watching Captain Marvel because of Brie Larson. It's called compromising.

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  32. Re: Movie reviews by mcl630 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The movie is shit, people said they aren't interested.

    Nobody has seen the movie... how do you know it's shit?

    Why must everything have an agenda with you newfags?

    I don't know what a "newfag" is, but *I* don't think everything has an agenda. *This* has an agenda, it's quite obvious. Nobody goes to RT and downvotes every movie they don't want to see. They only go to RT to downvote a movie when they have an agenda.