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Apple TV+, With Shows From Spielberg, Oprah and J.J. Abrams, is Coming This Fall (cnet.com)

Alongside its new news and payment services, Apple today also unveiled Apple TV+, a place for its new slate of original shows. The new service, billed as a place for the "highest-quality storytelling," will be available in over 100 countries and released starting this fall through the Apple TV app. From a report: It will be ad-free, on-demand and available both streaming online and downloadable. Pricing will be announced this fall. Apple TV Plus is the company's way of jumping into the streaming video game, where Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Hulu and others have already established themselves and brought in millions of cord-cutter customers fleeing cable subscriptions. The new service also works as a way for Apple to grow its thriving services business, helping it continue to grow despite lagging iPhone sales.

The company in 2017 hired Jamie Erlicht and Zack Van Amburg from Sony Pictures Television to oversee "all aspects of video programming." The two were responsible for shows such as Breaking Bad, The Crown and Rescue Me. And in the past year, Apple has continually announced original content it's producing -- including a multiyear partnership deal with Oprah and deals with Reese Witherspoon, J.J. Abrams and dozens of others. The company has reportedly gone well past its original $1 billion budget to bring in this list of movie and television A-listers, who are slated to create about 30 shows and a handful of movies.

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  1. Will it be locked to Apple hardware? by squiggleslash · · Score: 2

    Because I don't see it going anywhere if it does. I can put Netflix, Amazon Video, Hulu, and a dozen other paid and free streaming services on my Roku, and my understanding is that the Amazon stick and the Chromecast are mostly similar.

    I'm not buying another box just to add one channel, especially not one that costs 3X the cost of my premium Roku (with non-premium Rokus costing more like a fifth of the price.)

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  2. Looks little different from Netflix to me... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure about this effort, one of the few things of all the shows and collaborations they announced that seemed at all appealing was the Spielberg bringing back "Amazing Stories".

    To me all the big names is kind of a turn off. Not only did that part go on FOREVER and was way to thick on the celebrity worship for my tastes, but to me the bigger names just seem devoid of really interesting ideas, I feel like I have got a lot more unique and interesting content from Netflix.

    I wish them luck, but it's a pretty rough field to be launching a new TV service into, what with both Netflix and Amazon hammering out new shows at a prodigious rate.

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    1. Re: Looks little different from Netflix to me... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      One of the first times I agree with you. Thanks for being honest this time.

      If you look deep enough, you'll find I am honest 100% of the time... it's just that other times you may disagree with my findings or my preferences. :-)

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    2. Re:Looks little different from Netflix to me... by butchersong · · Score: 1

      I'd say their big competition will be Disney streaming and Netflix and... Netflix despite their strong position I see in more of a longterm downward trend from here. Amazon should be a contender and things may change but for now just those two primarily. If they start bundling the TV service free with 3 months when purchasing hardware, seems like it could go well for them.

    3. Re:Looks little different from Netflix to me... by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Just think if they had bought Pixar from Jobs instead of Disney.

    4. Re:Looks little different from Netflix to me... by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

      with both Netflix and Amazon hammering out new shows at a prodigious rate.

      I'd be happier if Apple would focus on existing stuff (eg all from 1966). New Netflix shows proliferate at a prodigious rate. But a lot of them are just based on copy-paste recipes aimed for lasting as long as possible. After only 3 episodes, you know the pattern.

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  3. Yet another reason by WoodstockJeff · · Score: 1

    not to update IOS, once they make AppleTV part of it.

    I just wish I could disable the "pending update" notifications.

  4. Nope, not at all by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Informative

    Will it be locked to Apple hardware?

    The missing part of the summary is that the Apple "TV" app (distinguished from the Apple TV hardware), is going to be going into a bunch of smart TV's, but also Roku and Amazon TV hardware.

    So you'll be able to see this content on pretty much anything (also iOS).

    Only thing I'm not sure of, as if there will be an Android app... I would say, probably.

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    1. Re:Nope, not at all by squiggleslash · · Score: 2

      OK, went through a maze of links and was finally able to find something that confirmed what you're saying.

      Money quote:

      The Apple TV app will be available on Samsung smart TVs beginning this spring and on Amazon Fire TV, LG, Roku, Sony and VIZIO platforms in the future.

      I note that, other than Samsung (for obvious reasons) the list is in alphabetical order.

      Odd that they're working with their fiercest rival in the mobile space right now and giving them an exclusive. Maybe they're mellowing a little.

      Chromecast is missing but I really wish Google would stop pushing it anyway. But that's another discussion.

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    2. Re:Nope, not at all by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      Hm, so no Android TV? Meh. I like the Apple TV fine, but it is useless for playing locally stored content, and I've replaced my Apple TVs with nVidia Shields which do everything rather well.

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    3. Re:Nope, not at all by markdavis · · Score: 1

      >"So you'll be able to see this content on pretty much anything (also iOS)."

      Except the billions of TV's that never get a firmware update for it.
      And millions of Linux-running laptops/desktops/myth boxes/etc.
      And, as you pointed out, maybe not the billions of Android devices.

      No mention of TiVo, either.

    4. Re:Nope, not at all by omnichad · · Score: 1

      That's a huge step in the right direction for Apple. They make the games Google and Amazon play against each other seem almost tame.

      Apple needs a lot more interoperability if they want to stay relevant, do it's good that they're starting to try.

    5. Re:Nope, not at all by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      I like the Apple TV fine, but it is useless for playing locally stored content...

      That's what AirPlay is for, and that runs only on Apple TV.

  5. Accessible, how? by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 2

    If it forces you to have Apple hardware/software then include me out.

    1. Re:Accessible, how? by WankerWeasel · · Score: 3, Informative

      In addition to Apple devices, the Apple TV app will also be available on smart TVs from Samsung, LG, Sony, Vizio, along with Roku and Amazon Fire devices. I'd think there will be a decent chance we might see an Android app at some point too.

  6. Get ready! by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's one more big one to come (Apple Arcade), Slashdot seems to be spreading out the stories a bit so as not to flood the feed all at once. Apple had a busy morning, for announcing things you cannot get anytime soon...

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    1. Re:Get ready! by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      There's one more big one to come (Apple Arcade), Slashdot seems to be spreading out the stories a bit so as not to flood the feed all at once.

      That's actually the one I'm most interested in. I do most of my gaming on the phone these days, because I can usually only squeeze in 15-20 minutes a day, and I seldom play multiplayer. If you don't play that much, you're just getting smoked all the time. I also hate the pay-to-win approach of a lot of games.

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    2. Re:Get ready! by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      That was a pretty good onion article - it's why my Apex Legends score is one victory, one loss, and shall probably stay that way. Only sharply downhill from there.

      A plethora of awesome single player focused games I can spend 30 minuets on? Yes please!

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  7. Even Spielberg, eh? by dbrueck · · Score: 2

    Guess Steve's not /quite/ as anti-streaming as he let on, if the price is right?

    (yeah, I know, it was about feature films, but still)

    1. Re:Even Spielberg, eh? by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      I get the impression a few Hollywood people, Spielberg and Nolan being the most prominent, have a problem with Netflix rather than an issue with streaming in general. They'll word it as anti-streaming, but they don't seem to care if it's someone other than Netflix doing it.

      And I really don't understand why.

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  8. Re:Blogspam by couchslug · · Score: 1

    As much as possible since msmashdot isn't news for nerds.

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  9. TV sure has evolved by BringsApples · · Score: 1

    Welcome to The Apple Channel
    Welcome to The Microsoft Channel
    Welcome to The Google Channel
    later...
    Welcome to The Apple Country
    Welcome to The Microsoft Country
    Welcome to The Google Country
    later...
    Welcome to The Apple Planet-Hunting Spaceship (looking for anywhere but Earth to inhabit)
    Welcome to The Microsoft Planet-Hunting Spaceship (looking for anywhere but Earth to inhabit)
    Welcome to The Google Planet-Hunting Spaceship (looking for anywhere but Earth to inhabit)

    Seriously, where does this stop. WW3 I assume.

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    1. Re:TV sure has evolved by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      Welcome to The Apple Channel
      Welcome to The Microsoft Channel
      Welcome to The Google Channel
      Seriously, where does this stop.

      It stops where

      Welcome to The OnlyOneRemains Channel

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    2. Re:TV sure has evolved by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      There is profound difference between the three.

      Apple is trying to sell the country club approach and controlled environment you can enter but they have to ensure you can always leave.

      M$ is trying to force full control, to give them the right to monitor, control and censor your digital environment and to lock you.

      Google seeks the exact same thing as M$, just down all sneekily and behind your back, doing the exact same thing that M$ do, just not in your face about jamming a probe up you butt and monitoring and controlling you digital existence, to climb right on your back and suck a corporate tax out of your digital existence.

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  10. Re:Over the Hill by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    Came here to say "Boomers" too. Why not also pick up Dick Wolf while you're at it?

  11. I buy lots of Apple stuff by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Look, I buy lots of Apple stuff, I've got at least three Apple computers and a couple of iPhones, but my reaction to the whole Apple TV is ... Meh.

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    1. Re:I buy lots of Apple stuff by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      6 Macs, 2 iPhones, 2 iPads, 2 ATVs , and an iwatch

      Enough value already!

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  12. Re:Blogspam by DickBreath · · Score: 1

    > how much Apple news do we really need?

    As much as Apple tells you that you are supposed to want.

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  13. Re:Is anybody even watching anymore? by DickBreath · · Score: 3, Informative

    You took the words right out of my mouth.

    TV and movies are boring. Uninteresting. Formulaic. Predictable. Remakes of Sequels of ancient TV shows. Seriously has Hollywood run out of creativity?

    To make matters worse, you don't even get a complete movie for the higher ticket prices. It's like a movie now is really just a commercial for its sequel. Sad.

    Protip: a movie should have a beginning, a middle, and a satisfying ending. Even if the ending is unrealistic, it should leave people happy and satisfied. People WANT to be entertained. Clue: it is an escape from reality. If the movie is going to have an unhappy depressing ending -- people can stay home and get that in real life. If you movie is good AND can have a sequel, then great. But that movie MUST stand on its own.

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  14. Apple fail here - long term traction missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Expect Apple fail with a decent spike in subscribers then lack of subscriber growth and slow loss of subscribers.

    Entering a low margin business with lots of established competition is not Apple's usual business strategy.

    There's no real cost to shifting subscriptions to another provider. Apple only adds a news feed subscription of which only the NY Times in recent memory has garnered significant new subscribers and most of them are from outside the USA.

    I've cancelled subscriptions and paid services other than basic internet and a cell phone with a replacement cell phone every 3 to 4 years.

  15. Re: Over the Hill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Also, it's pretty Ameri-centric. I've nothing against US entertainment, but I'm sick of 12 series long story arcs and sitcoms with writing teams and the same old characters.

  16. Do we need more? by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    All these people I'll never see or miss in the slightest.

  17. Also in video by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Thanks for hunting down the link, I should have done that myself - I saw the names I listed mentioned in the video, so you can also find it there.

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  18. Re:Blogspam by butchersong · · Score: 1

    An apple event occurs a few times a year. It doesn't seem unreasonable to cover the topics in their announcements.

  19. Re:Is anybody even watching anymore? by butchersong · · Score: 2

    You took the words right out of my mouth.

    I see what you did there

  20. After some thought... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I'd say their big competition will be Disney streaming and Netflix and... Netflix despite their strong position I see in more of a longterm downward trend from here.

    Why do you see Netflix heading downhill from here? I'd agree if Netflix were spending less on content but every year they spend quite a lot more, I think they are spending way more than Apple! To me the Netflix content just keeps getting better and broader. They are starting to put out movies that are seriously more interesting than most general release movies I see previews for.

    After some thought, I don't think Apple is really even competing against Netflix or Amazon. To me what Apple is offering seems a lot more like HBO (right down to a Sesame Street offering!). I think Apple might be better off than HBO but I'm not sure as even with GOT ending, HBO has some strong properties left.

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  21. Oprah? by sconeu · · Score: 1

    So it's all gonna be touchy-feely spiritual bullshit?

    Disclaimer: My GF loves the Oprah channel. I try to ignore it when she has that channel on.

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  22. Courage by ruddk · · Score: 3, Funny

    All programs will also be in mono, black and white and only in French language because, you know, as they say in France, le courage.

  23. Re:This Was Apple's Plan All Along - Media Company by omnichad · · Score: 1

    I don't know if this is satire or lunacy, but it's still 10/10 entertaining.

  24. Great, yet another channel behind a paywall by supremebob · · Score: 1

    If it wasn't annoying enough to have to subscribe to 4 different pay TV services to (legally) watch all the content want to watch, Apple and Disney will soon start their own streaming services hide their premium content behind.

    We're soon going to get to the point where we're going to need an "everything" network that lets you sign up for multiple streaming services at once under a single account. You know, so you can watch all of your shows in once place.... like the Cable Company used to provide 10 years ago.

    1. Re:Great, yet another channel behind a paywall by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      wait, you actually prefer giving Netflix a monopoly on content so that they can jack the prices to cable co levels or even higher?

    2. Re:Great, yet another channel behind a paywall by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      In what way does Netflix have a monopoly on content? The main reason they would have to raise prices is that the content companies charge Netflix ever increasing rates for licensing.

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    3. Re:Great, yet another channel behind a paywall by mr_lemonade4796 · · Score: 1

      I believe Apple i going to try being the Everything Streaming Service.

      Think Internet Cable TV, with bundled content or pick-ur-own (at higher cost) bundles.

      They have already made deals to carry content from other streaming services. Why not subscribe from 1 place for all your streaming, at a bundled discount.

      -T-

    4. Re:Great, yet another channel behind a paywall by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      It isn't. Thanks to competitors such as Disney, Amazon, Apple... you know, all those you just criticized for trying to compete with Netflix.

    5. Re:Great, yet another channel behind a paywall by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      So are you now arguing that Netflix doesn’t have a monopoly on things it doesn’t own? Also where and when criticized others for trying to compete with Netflix?

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    6. Re:Great, yet another channel behind a paywall by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      Sorry, it was not you but the OP (supremebob) who did complain that new competitors were trying to compete with Netflix, as if it was a bad thing.
      What I am saying is we should be thankful Netflix doesn't have a monopoly. The implication is yes, that we have to subscribe to various services to get all content but this is a good thing. If things went the way the OP wanted them too, Netflix WOULD have a monopoly. I never said it was currently the case.

  25. Re:Is anybody even watching anymore? by Kjella · · Score: 4, Insightful

    TV and movies are boring. Uninteresting. Formulaic. Predictable. (...) Protip: a movie should have a beginning, a middle, and a satisfying ending. Even if the ending is unrealistic, it should leave people happy and satisfied.

    The irony here is so thick I could cut it with a knife. What you describe sounds like the dullest "and they all lived happily ever after" Disney movie for kids. Some of the best movies I know totally throw the formula out the window like Memento, throw total curve balls where you think you know what's going on but doesn't like The Sixth Sense or have semi-dark endings like Man On Fire where it's obvious not everyone is walking out of there.

    If I want a popcorn flick where the superhero saves the day I can go watch that, but it's never exciting whether Wonder Woman or Aquaman or Spiderman or Iron Man or the Hulk or whatever pulls through - leads don't die if it's rated PG-13 or less. I'd rather watch GoT where nobody's safe and everyone from the evilest shit to the kindest, most innocent character can end up dead any moment. The only thing I'm sure of is that there will always be a Stark in Winterfell.

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  26. Should work like News+ by Camembert · · Score: 1

    Everyone is tired of more and more subscription services. However I do like the model of their news+ service: one subscription cost to 100s of magazines and the content producers are paid based on the amount of time their content is consumed. This model is what I would prefer as a consumer for video streaming services as well. I might well binge on GoT or westworld at HBO - but little else, similarly for other streaming channels.

    1. Re:Should work like News+ by mr_lemonade4796 · · Score: 1

      Canada had at least two mutli-magazine/newspaper subscription services. They did not survive, because not enough people reads newspaper and magazines on tablets and cellphones.

      If content producers are paid based on the amount of time their content is consumed, expect the number of magazines to go down rapidly. A lot will disappear off the service in the first year, unless this is not their only revenue stream, and perhaps the cost of staying on Apples system is low. Eventually though... if readership does not increase, bye bye News+.

        -T-

  27. Re:I hope JJ is producing, not directing. by Camembert · · Score: 1

    In general I agree yet his Star Trek movie was quite ok, I thought.

  28. Re:Blogspam by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    In separate posts for each one? How about one post?

    Has Slashdot ever managed to do only one post about a subject?

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  29. Re: Is anybody even watching anymore? by houghi · · Score: 1

    Marketing for a remake us cheaper than for something new, or for the same price more effective.

    Hero movies, star wars and trek. No need to explain anything. Just say there is a new one and people will come.

    Remake? Nany oeople will look because of nostalgia, so you have already won a lot of eyes. As long as they make money of it, why should they stop?

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  30. Re:Ad free by LostMyAccount · · Score: 1

    My guess is the early business models suggested cable subscriptions could actually support some or all channels through just generic subscriber fees.

    But I think this lasted like 5 minutes, my first exposure to cable was in about 1982 and the stations all had commercials except for HBO.

  31. Cringe Actors Ejected from the Movies by Chissblue · · Score: 1

    Remember that actor you didn't want to bother with going to their movies 20 years ago? Well we have an amazing show for you. Meanwhile all the better shows are mostly supporting actors. Give me a Hugo Weaving or a Richard E Grant show over Ben Afflack any day.

  32. Saturated and Fractured Market by johnsie · · Score: 1

    It seems there are going to be a lot more streaming services by the end of the year, each with their own shows. While it's good that you can watch some great new shows online now, it's going to be annoying that each app has a different fee. Personally I think I'll wait and see which sort of shows each provider comes out with. It does seem like the Internet is going back to the days of Compuserve and AOL though. You will need to choose a subscription to get your web content.

  33. Re:Is anybody even watching anymore? by bigdavex · · Score: 1

    The message the market is sending is make more sequels, remakes, and formulaic movies.

    https://www.pastemagazine.com/

    10. Venom
    U.S. total: $213.2 million

    9. Solo: A Star Wars Story
    U.S. total: $213.77 million

    8. Ant-Man and the Wasp
    U.S. total: $216.65 million

    7. Mission: Impossible â" Fallout
    U.S. total: $220.16 million

    6. The Grinch
    U.S. total: $265.5 million

    5. Deadpool 2
    U.S. total: $318.49 million

    4. Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
    U.S. total: $416.77 million

    3. Incredibles 2
    U.S. total: $608.58 million

    2. Avengers: Infinity War
    U.S. total: $678.82 million

    1. Black Panther
    U.S. total: $700.06 million

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  34. Spielberg Hypocrisy by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    Hilarious. Interesting how people like to complain about something unless they specifically benefit from it...

    Oh boo hoo! Streaming services bad, make bad content! :( Oh HAI! Buy my streaming content on AppleTV! :)

    https://entertainment.slashdot...

    https://www.foxnews.com/entert...