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Minecraft Creator Markus 'Notch' Persson Eradicated From Splash Text (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Microsoft has removed a trio of references to Markus "Notch" Persson, the creator of Minecraft, from the game's opening menu screen. Random messages known as "splash text" are printed in yellow on this screen, and they used to include "Made by Notch!", "The Work of Notch", and "110813!" (a reference to the day Persson got married), but now all three mentions are gone. Notch is still included in the game's credits, but the change means that Minecraft players will no longer be randomly referenced.

Persson first released the blocky building game in 2009. Five years later, after the game had become a global smash hit, he sold his company Mojang to Microsoft for $2.5 billion, giving Redmond ownership of Minecraft. The references to Notch have remained a feature until their removal in this latest patch. They're reported to have been removed both from the original Java edition played on PCs and the legacy console edition used on PlayStation 4. No official rationale has been offered for the change, but Persson has become something of a polarizing figure on Twitter...

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  1. RedPill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Microsoft doesn't want to continue to weather the based red-pilled notch in a predominantly blue-pilled society any longer.

    1. Re:RedPill by jawtheshark · · Score: 2

      predominantly blue-pilled society

      ... but is that actually so? Talk to people privately, talk to them behind closed doors and see what they really think. You'll be surprised.

      It is not because the media tells us that "blue pill" is the right way, that the average person actually swallows it.

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    2. Re:RedPill by GrandCow · · Score: 2, Informative

      Anyone able to translate for people who're not interested enough to understand jargon nor follow the life of some game creator?



      Notch has some incredibly stupid personal ideas about society, backed up by reading a subforum on reddit that is filled with shitty people and creating an echo chamber of "I deserve to get laid by women" instead of treating women like normal human beings. This shitty thinking extends to white nationalism as well, because SURPRISE: most of them are sheltered white young males with little to no empathy, claiming there is a conspiracy against white people and they have to get ready for an upcoming race war.

      They use The Matrix as a way to show that they are informed of the "real world" and believe these shitty ideas, aka taking the red pill and seeing how deep the rabbit hole goes.
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    3. Re:RedPill by Cederic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, MGTOW are totally into.. wait, it's in their name. They're into not raping women, even by modern feminist doctrine that all sex is rape.

      What misogynists, denying basic participation in rape culture to women.

    4. Re:RedPill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Uhm, there are millions of Africans moving to India.
      You probably don't think the surrounding countries took the largest wave of the Syrian refugee crisis either.

      As for the "Africans" in the US they didn't exactly go there by choice.
      White people "invited" them forcefully.

    5. Re:RedPill by Cederic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Marcus has such extreme financial security that he no longer needs to worry about whether he upsets people.

      This means that he speaks his mind openly and his views transgress the politically correct viewpoints expected of public figures on social media.

      Notably he calls out what he perceives to be silliness and lies when people attack the industry he's helped shape on the topics such as sexism, racism, professional ethics or daring to actually suggest that certain business practices are damaging to customers.

      That upsets the echo chambers.

    6. Re: RedPill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Imagine if more than 50% believed it

      That would be crazy, you would end up with Trump as prez and Brexit in Europe

      That could never happen...

    7. Re:RedPill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What he says is bog standard right wing PC & right wing SJW language.

    8. Re:RedPill by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Informative

      Red Pill is a term used by the "Manosphere" ("MRAs", Incels, etc) to describe their version of the world, which is a reference to an old, classic, movie from decades ago called The Matrix whereby the hero takes a "red pill" and suddenly finds out that the world is fake. MRAs believe that there's no sexism against women, and in fact women secretly rule the world, something in conflict with the view most people have of the world.

      Basically the GP is saying that Notch is a bit of an MRA/alt-righter these days, which is more or less correct.

      Microsoft, being a corporate entity that doesn't want the secret conspiracy of Hispanic Black Jewish Muslim One-legged Lesbians that really runs the world to close them down (or alternatively doesn't want people in general to think they have polarizing political views) is putting some distance between them and Notch with this change. And that's fine, Notch knew that he was losing creative control of Minecraft when he sold it, and knows that Microsoft is unlikely to want to associate with him if he posts "unpopular" political comments all the time.

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    9. Re:RedPill by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      Notch has deplorable views, MS wants to minimize its association with said views.

      https://www.dailydot.com/irl/m...

      HTH

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    10. Re:RedPill by jythie · · Score: 2

      Eh, I would not really call that a modern infection, but an old slowly dieing one. The sex negative branch of feminism has bit by bit fading and has been for decades. It just keeps getting more and more focus by anti-feminists. But within feminism it is next to extinct.

    11. Re:RedPill by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Do you know what TERF stands or? The "R" is for "radical", as in not part of the mainstream movement.

      I would hardly call Martina Navratilova a "radical." Until about 5 minutes ago, she was considered a popular mainstream lesbian, a moderate feminist, and a darling of the LGBTQ community. Now suddenly, she's being called a Nazi-transphobe "radical" for daring to suggest that boys have a penis and girls have a vagina.

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    12. Re:RedPill by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Anyone able to translate for people who're not interested enough to understand jargon nor follow the life of some game creator?

      Translation: He had the temerity to actually publicly admit that he voted for Donald Trump instead of Her Divine Holiness, which makes him racist-sexist-homophobic-puppie-kicking-worse-than-Hitler.

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    13. Re:RedPill by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      Nah just the double standards I'd expect from you.

      Any non trivial group will have an extremist. You don't like feminists so you essentially paint the extremists as representatives of the whole. But you identify as right wing yet you don't paint the extremists as representative of you.

      Just another blowhard with double standards.

      What you'll most likely do now is excuse me of something random (because SJW or some such nonsense) and then utterly fall to present any evidence for it.

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    14. Re:RedPill by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      Red Pill is a term used by the "Manosphere" ("MRAs", Incels, etc) to describe their version of the world, which is a reference to an old, classic, movie from decades ago called The Matrix whereby the hero takes a "red pill" and suddenly finds out that the world is fake.

      The ironic thing is that a big part of it is that the identity forced on you by your surroundings is fake and instead identity comes from within. This is the compete antithesis of what red pillers seem to believe.

      Re watching the matrix 15 years later knowing the directors are both trans made some of the themes that were always there a lot more obvious.

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    15. Re:RedPill by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 2

      He had the temerity to actually publicly admit that he voted for Donald Trump

      I hope he didn't. He's not a US citizen.

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    16. Re:RedPill by lgw · · Score: 2, Interesting

      OK, WTF Slashdot - the politics has gotten nuts. This needs to stop.

      The statement "some feminists are sex-negative", true or false, is not trolling.

      There is no fucking mod choice on Slashdot for "fact that, if true, makes my political position look bad". OK, I lie, there is: the "Interesting" mod.

      If we don't stop this modding-by-politics shit, we will become Digg. And, dammit, we're better than that.

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  2. He got paid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So it's ok if they do whatever they want with the game. They own it. He's still in the credits and they're not trying to say he didn't make it so... This isn't much of a story. For $2.5 billion you can take my name off my birth certificate, I wouldn't care.

    1. Re:He got paid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You could say they used a notch filter.

  3. Re:Totalitarians don't like notch by Hands+of+Blue · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Presumably they've just decided that referencing Notch any more than they are legally-obligated to will bring them more problems than benefits.

    So, yeah, CYA mode.

    There are going to be a lot of people saying that Microsoft are "pandering to snowflakes" (or whatever the current jargon is) but any time a company "takes a step for more inclusivity" or the like it's only ever been about optics.
    They've never really cared about anyone's cause—save their own.

  4. News for nobody. Shit that doesn't matter. by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 5, Informative

    I love Minecraft but Why is this even news??

    Founders leave their companies all the time. Is the company under some "moral obligation" to keep a reference to the founder for all perpetuity??

    He's still listed in the credits, so who gives a fuck if his name has been removed from the Splash page?

    Is Bill Gates listed in the credits for Windows, Excel, Word, etc?

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    1. Re:News for nobody. Shit that doesn't matter. by fenrif · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I love Minecraft but Why is this even news??

      Because it's part of a wider and very worrying trend of tech companies deciding to expunge people from the record for wrongthink.

    2. Re:News for nobody. Shit that doesn't matter. by slack_justyb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because it's part of a wider and very worrying trend of tech companies deciding to expunge people from the record

      Oh buddy do I have news for you. None of this is new. Like not even this century new. Companies just vanishing you from all code is pretty par at least since I've been programming (~ late 70s).

      wrongthink

      Have you read some of his tweets? I mean it's not really important, but have you read some of his tweets? I could maybe understand if he's apologetic about some of them, but nah, he seems totally fine with some choice racial slurs. That being said, he's totally free to say what he wants but Microsoft is free to do whatever they want with the code they bought from him for ~$1B. Do remember he sold his company lock, stock, and barrel to Microsoft so, I think that kind of entitles them to vanish his ass if they so wish it. I think they were leaving it in just to be nice, but ya know, push come to shove. Either way, dude got his money and ran. Now he's on Twitter whining about "injustice". Maybe he's making a pitch to be noticed again? Maybe not. I won't pretend to know what his motives are or if he's truly lost his ever loving mind from all the money (because he does bring up the fact that he's a billionaire quite often on Twitter). It's Microsoft's code, Notch can kick rocks and go say whatever he wants to say. Microsoft still gets to do whatever they want with their code. That's what it means when you completely sell out.

    3. Re:News for nobody. Shit that doesn't matter. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You use the word "wrongthink" like you've read Orwell but, if you have, you've clearly got no fucking idea what he was on about.

      1984 is scary because the party is controlling everything you do and changing society so that you can't think any other way.

      This is a company ditching an association with someone they don't think fits their brand.

      No-one is controlling what Notch is doing. He *literally* sold his right to control what happens to Minecraft.

      It's kind of the opposite of what you're suggesting. Everyone involved in this story is exercising their freedom. Notch is still free to say whatever it is he says on Twitter (I don't follow him so I've no idea what it is). MS is still free to say (or not to say) whatever it wants on its software.

    4. Re:News for nobody. Shit that doesn't matter. by JeffSh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      i dont think its about expunging.

      Minecraft was sold in 2014, so that is 5 years ago. The continued references to Notch as "The Creator" is more and more offensive to the TEAM behind Minecraft today. Notch was responsible for the early days of Minecraft, but we are approaching the break-even point between Notch's cumulative time and the Mojang team's cumulative time.

      It's an appropriate point to begin to define Notch's contributions appropriately in context of the total time of Minecrafts existence.

    5. Re:News for nobody. Shit that doesn't matter. by Kohath · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wrongthink is exactly the right term.

      We should ask ourselves:

      Is there any evidence Notch mistreated anyone based on their membership in a 'protected status' group? Any evidence at all? Who was mistreated? What was the date and time? What action did Notch take against this person? What indicates his motive in this incident?

      Do any of the people complaining about Notch answer any of these questions?

      Should someone who didn’t do anything to hurt anyone be considered guilty?

      Notch brought joy to like half a billion people. What did Notch's detractors ever do for anyone?

    6. Re:News for nobody. Shit that doesn't matter. by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 2

      Notch brought joy to like half a billion people

      Why is that relevant. Do we give passes on behavior just because of other behavior that's good? What's next, "person X saved 20 children from drowning, so here's a gift certificate for 2 free murders?"

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    7. Re:News for nobody. Shit that doesn't matter. by Kohath · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why is that relevant. Do we give passes on behavior ...

      What behavior, specifically, are you talking about? What was the date and time of this behavior? How many people were injured?

      Details please. Because if this is just general totalitarian bitching about someone taking offense instead of being cool, then you're damn right Notch should "get a pass" for someone's (opportunistically) hurt feelings for all the millions of people's lives he made a little bit better.

    8. Re:News for nobody. Shit that doesn't matter. by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 2

      > That's a pretty priceless strawman, given that while Bill Gates may have a lot of micromanagement tendencies, he wasn't chiefly responsible for a lot of what made Windows, Excel, Word, etc.

      *Facepalm*

      1. Joel says otherwise

      "I don't know, you guys," Bill said, "Is anyone really looking into all the details of how to do this? Like, all those date and time functions. Excel has so many date and time functions. Is Basic going to have the same functions? Will they all work the same way?"

      "Yes," I said, "except for January and February, 1900."

      "OK. Well, good work," said Bill. He took his marked up copy of the specand left.

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        Bill Gates was amazingly technical. He understood Variants, and COM objects, and IDispatch and why Automation is different than vtables and why this might lead to dual interfaces. He worried about date functions. He didnâ(TM)t meddle in software if he trusted the people who were working on it, but you couldnâ(TM)t bullshit him for a minute because he was a programmer. A real, actual, programmer.

      2. Bill Gates personally reviewed every line of code for the first 5 years

      During Microsoft's early years, all employees had broad responsibility for the company's business. Gates oversaw the business details, but continued to write code as well. In the first five years, he personally reviewed every line of code the company shipped, and often rewrote parts of it as he saw fit.

      :

      He finally retired as chief software architect in June 2008,

      Do you actually have ANY clue what a Chief Software Architect (also called CTO Chief Technical Officer) means?

      3. Who co-founded and RAN MS again??? The buck started and stopped with him. He would make announcements of what MS was working on next and would announce when they were ready. While he may have only written a small percentage of the code in the later years he was either directly or indirectly responsible for everything MS did, especially buying software companies and slapping their own MS label on it. Gee, go figure. From the same article previously linked:

      He met regularly with Microsoft's senior managers and program managers, and was reportedly verbally pugnacious, berating managers for perceived holes in their business strategies that placed the company's long-term interests at risk.

      The point is Bill wasn't some clueless company president. He was VERY much hands on. Especially in the early years.

      This has got to be a new low on /. I'm defending the guy and I hate his business practices! LOL.

  5. Re:Well... by Jarwulf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    'little shit'= having a different opinion than me.

  6. Re:I don't like him because he's dabbling by Kohath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    in white supremacist rhetoric and memes

    Totalitarians like to proclaim guilt-by-association, just like that. Regardless of truth, they proclaim guilt. And if anyone questions them for proclaiming guilt, that makes the questioner guilty too.

  7. Re: Well... by Jarwulf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The police gun down whoever's in the way. Its not a racial thing, its a militarized society thing. If it was Asians predominantly around wherever crime and police tend to hang around, they'd be gunned down in similar numbers. Men are gunned down far more than women, yet you'd never admit that as a sign that society favors women. Plenty of whites get gunned down, the other day a white man was shot for playing with a garden hose and nobody cried for him.

  8. Re:Break up Microsoft again before it's too late. by Narcocide · · Score: 2

    They never actually went through with breaking them up the last time, and it is definitely too late now.

  9. Re:I don't like him because he's dabbling by The+Evil+Atheist · · Score: 3, Informative

    That article was discussing another publication which called it a myth. The NYTimes itself did not call it a myth.

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  10. Re:Totalitarians don't like notch by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seems unremarkable to me. What secifically are you referring to?

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  11. Re:I don't like him because he's dabbling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You're implying it's not okay to be white. That makes you a racist.

  12. Re: Well... by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Blacks account for 31% of police murder, despite being 13% of the population.

    But they're a much greater percentage of "police encounters". People tend to have confrontations with the police in crime-ridden areas. That is not racist per se and more than explains your statistic. You can argue that there's some racist reason that black neighborhoods have more crime, of course.

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  13. Re: Well... by phlinn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No, not per capita. Per violent criminal, possibly, depending on which stats you use. We don't have good statistics on police shootings OR violent crime rates though. Using numbers from the NCVS for 2012-2015 and The Guardian's list of police shootings in 2015-2016
    . 4,847,887 total violent crimes with a perp group of pers with a single known race.
    1,324,270 violent crimes committed by blacks.
    2,557,910 violent crimes committed by whites.
    307 + 266 = 573 Blacks shot by cops, rate is .00043
    584 + 574 = 1158 whites, rate is .00045

    Those rates are close enough that I'd say the police are fairly even handed in their brutality, and mostly aren't gun happy. Not even 1 in a thousand violent criminals get shot. Unfortunately, numbers over 3 years shouldn't be directly combined with numbers for 2 years of which only one overlaps, but that's what I've got. 2015 alone has roughtly the same, while 2016 is wildly different. I used to use an older measure of violent crime, because prior to 2017 the last time violent crimes by race were included in the NCVS was 2006 IIRC.

    I could go to the UCR, but then I have to limit it to homicides to get race of offender, and relative homicide rates did NOT track relative violent crime rates the last time I checked. The latter is measured by victim surveys, the former is for crimes where the victim obviously can't answer. That doesn't even get into simpson's paradox issues, where certain areas have different crime rates and shooting rates, and it's possible for the overall trend to be magnified OR reversed in every jurisdiction. And of course the fact that counting crimes does not count criminals, since one person can victimize multiple people. And not all violent crimes are the same.

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  14. Re: Well... by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We can all agree, cops are fucking murderers.

    No, we most certainly can't all agree with that. The vast majority of cops are decent people just trying to do their jobs. Every day they have to deal with some of the shittiest human beings on the planet, so that the rest of us don't have to. And most of them--despite getting regularly beaten, spit on, attacked, screamed at, and threatened by said shitty human beings--will never murder anyone in their entire careers.

    You try being a cop for a while and see if YOU can maintain that level of professionalism, loudmouth. It's always easy to play armchair quarterback on every police shooting when you're not the one having to go out there and put YOUR life on the line every single day, isn't it?

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  15. Re:Totalitarians don't like notch by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

    You have an over developed sense of something. All I see is someone correcting someone else about their net worth. If that's your favorite tweet then you have an incredibly dull sense of humor.

    This doesn't seem to be sticking it to anyone particularly hard.

    Seriously why on earth do you think this is such a marvelous tweet.

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