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What's The Correct Way to Pronounce 'GIF'? (thenewstack.io)

"Apparently we're all fighting about how to pronounce 'GIF' again on Twitter," writes technology columnist Mike Melanson: I personally find the argument of web designer Aaron Bazinet, who managed to secure the domain howtoreallypronouncegif.com, rather convincing in its simplicity: "It's the most natural, logical way to pronounce it. That's why when everyone comes across the word for the first time, they use a hard G [as in "gift"]." Bazinet relates the origin of the debate as such:

"The creator of the GIF image format, Steve Wilhite of CompuServe, when deciding on the pronunciation, said he deliberately chose to echo the American peanut butter brand, Jif, and CompuServe employees would often say 'Choosy developers choose GIF(jif)', playing off of Jif's television commercials. If you hear anyone pronounce GIF with a soft G, it's because they know something of this history."

Wilhite attempted to settled the controversy in 2013 when accepting a lifetime achievement award at the 17th annual Webby awards. Using an actual animated .gif for his five-word acceptance speech, he authoritatively announced his preferred pronounciation. However, the chief editor of the Oxford English Dictionary argues that "A coiner effectively loses control of a word once it's out there," adding that "the pronunciation with a hard g is now very widespread and readily understood."

One linguist addressed the topic on Twitter this week, noting studies that found past usage of "gi" in words has been almost evenly split between hard and soft g sounds. Their thread also answers a related question: how will I weaponize a trivial and harmless consonant difference to make other people feel bad and self-conscious about themselves?

Her response? "Maybe just....don't do this."

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  1. Jif... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because choosy nerds choose GIF!

    For those overseas or under 30, it's a play on the old Choosy mothers choose Jif peanut butter commercial

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    1. Re:Jif... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The creator of the GIF image format, Steve Wilhite of CompuServe, when deciding on the pronunciation, said he deliberately chose to echo the American peanut butter brand, Jif,

      So, he's a complete moron.

      He created the acronym GIF, for Graphics Interchange Format.
      The G is for Graphics, not Jraphics.

      The G is for Graphics, not Jraphics.

      There is no such word as Jraphics.

      The G is for Graphics, not Jraphics.

      There is no such word as Jraphics.

      How do you create an acronym and then pronounce it wrong? That's just fucking retarded.

    2. Re: Jif... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The American "peanut butter" is the same product. Before use for cleaning toilets, it is a white cream.

    3. Re:Jif... by Phics · · Score: 4, Informative

      How do you create an acronym and then pronounce it wrong? That's just fucking retarded.

      Oh really?

      Pronounce Scuba for me.... now, pronounce each word the letters in Scuba stand for... Betcha you never pronounced it sc-uh-ba in your life.

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    4. Re: Jif... by David+Gould · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Huh. Somebody who thinks the way an acronym's letters are pronounced in their respective words has ANYTHING AT ALL to do with how the acronym should be pronounced... is calling somebody *else* a moron? Funny.

      Once again, the ONLY points that have any relevance whatsoever are:

      1. The person who invents a technology deserves the right to name it, and only a total asshole would ignore their wishes.

      2. The Cabal has authorized me to reveal that, for as long as the GIF format has existed, pronouncing "gif" correctly -- i.e., like "gin", not like "git" -- has been one of the not-so-secret recognition codes by which people who have any clue about computer stuff identify each other.

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    5. Re:Jif... by Red_Forman · · Score: 2

      GIF is still useful if you need to easily have something animated since APNG support is spotty at best and tools to generate valid APNG are not as popular as tools to make animated GIFs.

      Otherwise, JPEG, PNG and CSS are your best tools.

    6. Re:Jif... by paulpach · · Score: 4, Funny

      So, he's a complete moron.

      I think you are jiving too much importance to this.
      I don't jive a damn, my jirlfriend does not jive a damn, my dog does not jive a damn.

      All words are made up, there is no one true way, it is just what most people think. We need to stop arjuing stupid stuff like this and jet a life instead.

    7. Re:Jif... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      How the fuck is converting a small 500KB MP4 to a fucking 5MB GIF "more efficient"?

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    8. Re:Jif... by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      Anybody can pronounce anything any way they like. That doesn't mean that if you create a data format that you get to determine what society will call it. That is just narcissism. People use his acronym; but choosing an acronym has nothing to do with how people will pronounce it. And if you try to play it like a game and get people to say something you think is funny, they'll usually choose something else.

    9. Re:Jif... by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Informative

      How do you create an acronym and then pronounce it wrong?

      How can you claim it's pronounced wrong? An acronym becomes a word in its own right, and much of English pronunciation is based on the characters around individual letters which ultimately means that acronyms often sound different than the words from which they are based.

      Now excuse me while I go pour myself a glass of gin while I clean the kitchen with my jif.

    10. Re:Jif... by nine-times · · Score: 2

      Or how about JPEG?

      Every time I've heard someone say it out loud, it's jay-peg. Never once have I heard someone say jay-feg. Yet the P comes from "photograph", which means that, by the logic of the parent post, the P should sound like an F. We all have to pronounce JPEG as jay-feg.

      Except that acronyms don't work that way.

    11. Re: Jif... by jittles · · Score: 2

      Huh. Somebody who thinks the way an acronym's letters are pronounced in their respective words has ANYTHING AT ALL to do with how the acronym should be pronounced... is calling somebody *else* a moron? Funny.

      Once again, the ONLY points that have any relevance whatsoever are:

      1. The person who invents a technology deserves the right to name it, and only a total asshole would ignore their wishes.

      2. The Cabal has authorized me to reveal that, for as long as the GIF format has existed, pronouncing "gif" correctly -- i.e., like "gin", not like "git" -- has been one of the not-so-secret recognition codes by which people who have any clue about computer stuff identify each other.

      And he sure exercised his right to name it, didn't he? He named it the "Graphics Interchange Format". Not JIF, not GIF. And I've known he pronounced it like JIF since I was a kid but still refuse to do so. Why would I bother to try and confuse people with a peanut butter brand? SO that I can be an elitist asshole? No, I think I'll pronounce it how it is spelled. You're welcome to think I am ignorant for doing so, I really don't care.

  2. Oh, for mod points by Anubis+IV · · Score: 2

    Wish we could downmod the article as Troll.

    1. Re:Oh, for mod points by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wish we could downmod the article as Troll.

      Mentioning or discussing something controversial and/or different from one's opinion is not (necessarily) trolling.
      (I wish some /. moderators would learn this.)

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  3. Soft g is just wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When it stands for Jraphics Interchange Format I'll pronounce it with a soft g.

  4. Better question by jwhyche · · Score: 2, Informative

    Instead of wondering how to pronounce it, we should be asking "who gives a shit?" This argument was all the rage in the BBS days, in 1989. Today, nobody uses gifs so who gives a shit?

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  5. Re:Pronounced like the peanut butter most moms lov by rtb61 · · Score: 2

    Easy, how do you pronounce JIF versus GIF, if you pronounce them the same, you probably have problem and are probably a Joat or is that Goat. Different ascents pronounce the same words differently, hence the recognisable accents. By the way, accurately, you are pronouncing it correctly if the person you are talking to understands what you are saying, if they do not and remember the intent is communicating with them, you are pronouncing incorrectly because they did not understand what you were trying to say, hence you failed at your attempt at communication. Proper pronunciation is for the receiver of the verbal communications and not the sender.

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  6. Re:Who cares now? by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

    Bohnett and Rezner just shed a tear, as millions of construction working animated GIF guys cried out in terror...

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  7. I'm an old nerd and I always said hard g gif.

    That said, I really don't give a rip. Use PNGs (pings BTW, not puhnugs) and be done with it.

  8. Re:Who cares now? by PPH · · Score: 5, Informative

    Please post a link to an animated .png

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG

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  9. Like gigawatt by Stormwatch · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's pronounced like gigawatt. That is, with a soft g.

  10. Re:Pronounced like the peanut butter most moms lov by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

    Well we are at it, we also need to resolve how to pronouce "lib", "bin", "char", and "vi".

    "vi" is the worst. I have heard it pronounced "vee-eye", "vee", "vie" (like "pie"), and "six".

  11. Modern "GIFs" by wahaa · · Score: 2

    Sites like Twitter use the term GIF in short videos but are just hosting the thing in video formats like MP4. Since that's not GIF anymore, it matters even less what the creator of the original format wanted it pronounced.

    1. Re:Modern "GIFs" by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sites like Twitter use the term GIF in short videos but are just hosting the thing in video formats like MP4.

      And then ignorant people keep calling every video "a GIF" even though video files are not animated/graphic files.

      Stopping the widespread use of "GIF" to mean "video" should be the topic here, not the proper way to pronounce GIF.

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  12. Re:"Jif", like the peanut butter by Tuidjy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I made up my mind a long time ago, in 1989. At the time, I barely spoke any English, but half my textbooks were in it. I had two professors who pronounced GIF differently. I just went with the pronunciation of the guy whom I liked more. Namely, hard G.

    As an aside, most of the people whom I've met since pronounce it with a hard G, and know, just as well as I do, that the inventor recommends a soft sound.

    It does not matter to me. I have yet to meet someone who insists on the soft G, and is not a pretentious wanker. I have never met someone who insists on the hard G. I would guess he would be a pretentious, ignorant wanker. The rest of us use the one we prefer, and know perfectly well what the people who use the other one mean.

    Seriously, correcting people on their pronunciation? Do men do that to each other? My girlfriends used to do it, now my wife and my daughter are the only ones who offer unsolicited advice... yeah, my three year old daughter gives me crap about sometimes messing up the TH sound. She can't pronounce the R in three, but she can tell I can't get the TH right. :-)

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  13. Re:peanut butter by sheramil · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is pronounced like "JIF" the peanut butter.

    Stupid jit.

  14. Re:Pronounced like the peanut butter most moms lov by kriston · · Score: 2

    Surely you jest. Everyone calls it "the six editor."

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  15. Re:"Jif", like the peanut butter by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Informative

    English is defined, not by the originators of words, or an Academy, but by usage. English dictionaries do not define words, they document them.

    If a hard g is the way it is commonly pronounced, that's the correct way.

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  16. We could always go back to Old English by strech · · Score: 4, Informative

    Language changes with usage, so hard and soft g both seem to be reasonable conclusions. If not, we can always keep going back, all the way to Old English:

    the Old English word gif 'if' (pronounced "yiff")

    (from a completely unrelated article about entries for the Universal Coded Character Set that has, of course, bounced around the internet since).

  17. Keeps the toilet clean by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 4, Funny

    Jif is a brand of toilet cleaner in the UK and elsewhere. Mind you given the taste of peanut butter I suppose it is possible it is just the same product repurposed.

    Interestingly they tried to rename it "Cif" a few years ago but my family back in the UK still just calls it Jif so if the trend continues soon it won't matter what the first letter is, "?if" will always get pronounced "Jif".

    1. Re:Keeps the toilet clean by mrbester · · Score: 2

      It was always called Cif in Europe, but when launched in UK, naming something that sounds like the colloquialism for a sexually transmitted disease wasn't thought to be a good idea.

      Then, decades later, it was renamed Cif in line with Europe for the reason that it would cost less to print the labels. Seeing as each country had their primary language describing the product on the label anyway, this seemed incongruous.

      Oh, and Vim is a cleaning product used for scouring pans.

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    2. Re:Keeps the toilet clean by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      It seems to me you have it someway wrong. At least in Greece, which I'll claim is part of Europe, it was "Jif" throughout the 80's and 90's and switched to "Cif" sometime in the 21 century.

  18. Re:Typical JEW bs, distract from these facts by Tehrasha · · Score: 2

    Clearly you meant the Gews. The ones who crucified Gesus.

  19. Re:Pronounced like the peanut butter most moms lov by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "vi" is the worst. I have heard it pronounced "vee-eye", "vee", "vie" (like "pie"), and "six".

    That's easy. I pronounce it "vim".

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  20. Re:Pronounced like the peanut butter most moms lov by dromgodis · · Score: 3, Funny

    It is all connected. The "Jif" brand used to be called "Vim" in my country.

  21. Re: "Jif", like the peanut butter by blibbo · · Score: 2

    And since gif (jif) with a soft g is also commonly pronounced, then this is also the correct way, I'm sure you'll agree.

  22. the question is a lie by fche · · Score: 2

    The presumption that there is only one "correct way" is a lie.