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What's The Correct Way to Pronounce 'GIF'? (thenewstack.io)
"Apparently we're all fighting about how to pronounce 'GIF' again on Twitter," writes technology columnist Mike Melanson:
I personally find the argument of web designer Aaron Bazinet, who managed to secure the domain howtoreallypronouncegif.com, rather convincing in its simplicity: "It's the most natural, logical way to pronounce it. That's why when everyone comes across the word for the first time, they use a hard G [as in "gift"]." Bazinet relates the origin of the debate as such:
"The creator of the GIF image format, Steve Wilhite of CompuServe, when deciding on the pronunciation, said he deliberately chose to echo the American peanut butter brand, Jif, and CompuServe employees would often say 'Choosy developers choose GIF(jif)', playing off of Jif's television commercials. If you hear anyone pronounce GIF with a soft G, it's because they know something of this history."
Wilhite attempted to settled the controversy in 2013 when accepting a lifetime achievement award at the 17th annual Webby awards. Using an actual animated .gif for his five-word acceptance speech, he authoritatively announced his preferred pronounciation. However, the chief editor of the Oxford English Dictionary argues that "A coiner effectively loses control of a word once it's out there," adding that "the pronunciation with a hard g is now very widespread and readily understood."
One linguist addressed the topic on Twitter this week, noting studies that found past usage of "gi" in words has been almost evenly split between hard and soft g sounds. Their thread also answers a related question: how will I weaponize a trivial and harmless consonant difference to make other people feel bad and self-conscious about themselves?
Her response? "Maybe just....don't do this."
"The creator of the GIF image format, Steve Wilhite of CompuServe, when deciding on the pronunciation, said he deliberately chose to echo the American peanut butter brand, Jif, and CompuServe employees would often say 'Choosy developers choose GIF(jif)', playing off of Jif's television commercials. If you hear anyone pronounce GIF with a soft G, it's because they know something of this history."
Wilhite attempted to settled the controversy in 2013 when accepting a lifetime achievement award at the 17th annual Webby awards. Using an actual animated .gif for his five-word acceptance speech, he authoritatively announced his preferred pronounciation. However, the chief editor of the Oxford English Dictionary argues that "A coiner effectively loses control of a word once it's out there," adding that "the pronunciation with a hard g is now very widespread and readily understood."
One linguist addressed the topic on Twitter this week, noting studies that found past usage of "gi" in words has been almost evenly split between hard and soft g sounds. Their thread also answers a related question: how will I weaponize a trivial and harmless consonant difference to make other people feel bad and self-conscious about themselves?
Her response? "Maybe just....don't do this."
Because choosy nerds choose GIF!
For those overseas or under 30, it's a play on the old Choosy mothers choose Jif peanut butter commercial
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
You don't call a JPEG a Jay-Pheg!!
Kriston
Outside of being the best format to store a 1x1 pixel image (usually for spacing in websites, although now better to use CSS), there's no benefits that GIF has these days over PNG. This was a discussion for eons ago, not 2019.
It is pronounced like "JIF" the peanut butter. Anyone who doesn't know this is a crayon eating moron who needs to be locked up for their own safety.
Thanks for asking.
Now kindly fuck off.
"The debate over how to pronounce GIF, which stands for Graphics Interchange Format, re-emerged this week when Steve Wilhite, the inventor of the widely used Web illustration, declared it should be pronounced “jif,” like the brand of peanut butter, rather than with a hard G sound."
Wish we could downmod the article as Troll.
When it stands for Jraphics Interchange Format I'll pronounce it with a soft g.
Instead of wondering how to pronounce it, we should be asking "who gives a shit?" This argument was all the rage in the BBS days, in 1989. Today, nobody uses gifs so who gives a shit?
I read at +2. If your post doesn't reach that level I will not see or respond to it.
The "G" in GIF stands for "Graphics" which has a hard G sound. I don't care if sometimes "GI" words are mostly pronounced with a soft "J" sound.
Using the same logic, would the "T" in TIFF be pronounced as "SH" because of words that end in "TION" (like education, motion, and election) is pronounced as "SHUN"? NO!
As a old techie, I feel justified. I shall always pronounce gif correctly. I will say though, the gif vs jif example does not clear it up for me, as j and g both have hard versions and soft versions that are slightly different.
pea nnnn geee
Get with the times.
Khazar Talmudic Jews believe this of all they call goyim/gentiles (any non-jew): Jews = biggest racists of all for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Peron, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No. Driven into DESERTS ages ago! Don't wonder why after all those exilings above.
Should anyone doubt any of this see Jacob Javits' crony Rosenthal spill the beans on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ where he called all Christianity fools for helping Israel and the biggest scam of all time per their beliefs below from their Talmud.
This is the province of the synagogue of Satan (Pharisees whom Jesus Christ himself kicked to the curb out of the temple & they killed him for it. Jeremiah did the same to them also + the Essenes could not stand them either breaking away from the pharisee corruption):
Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier):
1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."
2. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."
3. Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."
4. Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."
5. Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."
6. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."
7. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."
8. Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."
9. Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."
10. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."
11. Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."
12. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."
13. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."
14. Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."
15. Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."
16. Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."
17. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."
18. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."
19. Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."
20. Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."
21. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen H
Its pronounced: ob-soh-leet.
It is superseded in every way by .png. Can we please stop using it already.
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Easy, how do you pronounce JIF versus GIF, if you pronounce them the same, you probably have problem and are probably a Joat or is that Goat. Different ascents pronounce the same words differently, hence the recognisable accents. By the way, accurately, you are pronouncing it correctly if the person you are talking to understands what you are saying, if they do not and remember the intent is communicating with them, you are pronouncing incorrectly because they did not understand what you were trying to say, hence you failed at your attempt at communication. Proper pronunciation is for the receiver of the verbal communications and not the sender.
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As the other commenters say, even for animations and fixed palette images there are better, open options.
Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
I'm sorry, but it is pronounced pong.
I'm an old nerd and I always said hard g gif.
That said, I really don't give a rip. Use PNGs (pings BTW, not puhnugs) and be done with it.
Since, we don't give Geoff the gee sound either, although we appear to offer a phonetical alternative spelling.
Don't forget. We've deemed it appropriate to have shuggar on a Wed-nez-day in Feb-roo-ary.
It's also the way our language helps us determine when to ask, "You're not from around here, are you?" Looking at you, R-Kansas.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.
Ernest Hemingway
" That's why when everyone comes across the word for the first time, they use a hard G [as in "gift"]."
Except, for the small problem that this absolutely isn't true. Wishing it, doesn't make it so. Neither does pissing your money away on a domain name.
I will punch you in the groin.
Graphics is the first word. Hard G
Animated ifs are great, gifs and jifs are silly.
My sig doesn't address Anons, sigs aren't visible to them.
I also say ess-sea-ess-eye
"It's the most natural, logical way to pronounce it. That's why when everyone comes across the word for the first time, they use a hard G [as in "gift"]."
This is an argument a friend once used on me. The argument had two flaws:
1) I pronounced it with a soft G right off the bat, because it least dumb
2) my friend's name is Geoff.
Excellent point. We pronounce it Jay-Peg. Though if weâ(TM)re truly following the same logic, shouldnâ(TM)t we be pronouncing it Jehpegg?
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It's "jif". And for bonus points, it's also "jiggabyte" (giga has the same root as gigantic, rock stars have gigs). Extra-special points for "multi-medium" instead of "multimedia", unless you think "multiparts forms" is proper English.
"National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
It's pronounced like gigawatt. That is, with a soft g.
Circumcision is child abuse.
Choosey mothers choose Jif, with the J pronounced like the G in golf. :)
and the creators of the format will kick you in the throat. And the rest of us will then piss on your slowly asphyxiating body...
Obsolete (n)
Awb sew leet
1. A file format that is no longer necessary.
Well we are at it, we also need to resolve how to pronouce "lib", "bin", "char", and "vi".
"vi" is the worst. I have heard it pronounced "vee-eye", "vee", "vie" (like "pie"), and "six".
If CompuServe says it's "jiff", that just reinforces my belief that the hard g is the way to go.
#DeleteChrome
"joat" is an acronym for "jack of all trades". I've been a "joat" and a goat on the same project, which got unpleasant when i got blamed for all the problems caused by people who knew only their own narrow tasks. (Yes, Object Oriented programmers, I mean you!)
You're a retarded NAZI FAGGOT!! So nobody cares.
Giving a gift of a GIF is great!
Sites like Twitter use the term GIF in short videos but are just hosting the thing in video formats like MP4. Since that's not GIF anymore, it matters even less what the creator of the original format wanted it pronounced.
and hydrogenated vegetable oils, so I pronounce it ghif.
and who's to stop the creator's wisdom of those CompuServe days? It is Jif
But goat is greatest of all time, so you had that going for you...
Gif is for pictures
This is what Slashdot is reduced to now?
GIF has become the latest way to bypass the video blocking issues.
Since most browsers let GIFs run, but may not allow HTML5 video due to all the exploits that have happened in the codecs/players, GIFs have made a comeback, particularly for porn clips, animated cat videos, and other short snippets that don't need audio.
Just like how all the major TV shows on today are throwbacks to the 1980s, so are the popular image formats, although the reasons for the reduxes are dramatically different (security vs not risking new ideas.)
And those that think it sounds like peanut butter are wrong Sorry
Then the creator should have learned to spell. Since they did not it is now and has always been pronounced with a hard throaty G sound.
..., what's the frequency?
Jraphics Interchange Format
Requiem for the American Dream
Or a gigantic gigolo. Or a giraffe.
No but Iâ(TM)m going to now.
Surely you jest. Everyone calls it "the six editor."
Kriston
So, Jay-IF?
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
And "etc" is properly pronounced etsy.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
It stands for Jgraphics interchange format so the pronunciation is obvious.
Well, the creator could have not written that format, but it happened. Anyway, the creator intended the pronunciation to be Jif, so deal with it.
I mean,
this is "word" which people around the world speaking different languages with different native sound vocabularies all need to speak.
Is it so surprising if a Spanish speaker would pronounce the 'G' more like English 'H'? What is the problem there?
What is the problem if different English speakers pronounce it differently?
Isn't it the case that natural English words are pronounced differently by different native English speakers according to their dialect?
So how is applying that same concept here so far out that people can't seem to even consider it a possibility?
Incidentally though, the quote in original article is dead wrong just based on my own usage/awareness...
"If you hear anyone pronounce GIF with a soft G, it's because they know something of this history."
I personally was unaware of any details regarding that, I use "soft G" because A) I heard others use that, and B) I like it.
What is funniest is when I think of the times I heard nerds promote "knowing computer language" as replacing actual foreign language study.
When they are unable to follow basic scientific linguistics, even in regards to their own language (something which actual foreign language study promotes).
The idea there is any one absolute 'correct' way to pronounce any word is just absolutely unscientific given the actual processes of human language.
Truly,
Like the world doesnâ(TM)t have enough (of other) problems right now. They say every generation needs one.
of why I do not have a twitter account! Or Facebook! I am smiling as I sit back in my desk chair and savor the moment with out main stream social media. Life is good. ;)
;)
Just my 2 cents
Language changes with usage, so hard and soft g both seem to be reasonable conclusions. If not, we can always keep going back, all the way to Old English:
the Old English word gif 'if' (pronounced "yiff")
(from a completely unrelated article about entries for the Universal Coded Character Set that has, of course, bounced around the internet since).
Jif is a brand of toilet cleaner in the UK and elsewhere. Mind you given the taste of peanut butter I suppose it is possible it is just the same product repurposed.
Interestingly they tried to rename it "Cif" a few years ago but my family back in the UK still just calls it Jif so if the trend continues soon it won't matter what the first letter is, "?if" will always get pronounced "Jif".
Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
I pronounce it with a soft g, others with a hard. Both of us know what the other is talking about and don't give a monkeys flying fuck.
Now, on to actual pet peeves..
ITIL pronounced IDLE - I-T-I-L or EYE-till, but IDLE? That's just brain-damaged-fucked.
ACL pronounced ACK-il. WTF is an ACK-il? Sounds like a hair-ball that Bill the Cat coughed up. A-C-L or Access Control List. Not ACK-il like you're having a seizure.
Now - for a really deep sociological discussion..
Is it Soda or Pop?
Fred in IT.
Damn slashdot, reposting questions that were answered in the days of Compuserve and BIX. Must be a new record on being slow to report something. ;-)
I pronounce it as "dead format" - which, outside of shitty Reddit memes, is all it is good for.
Giraffics.
It's pronounced "gif".
For reference, see: https://imgur.com/gallery/RRKV...
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
If he had wanted it pronounced Jif, he should have spelled it as .JIF and not expect the whole world to violate some basic rules of grammar to satisfy him. But hey, CompuServe used to bill people $6/hr (300 baud) or $12/hr (1200 baud) so it's understandable they might be a bit full of themselves.
Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
Its Gif pronounced Jif, like the peanut butter. End of story. I can't help it if someone can't accept that.
CompuServe used it and if you never used CompuServe, you don't know jack.
What other words start with 'gif'? Gift is one. Probably the most closely related word to gif. And it's got a hard G.
That's easy. I pronounce it "vim".
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
I think Doc Brown would disagree with your claim that it's a soft g. Either that, or I'm in the wrong timeline.
p.s. I alternate between saying "gif" and "gif."
The proof is here! http://dailyety.tumblr.com/pos...
If you have to say that "gif" is pronounced the same as "jif", like the brand "jif", then you've obviously done it wrong.
Who really cares at this point that the author wanted it pronounced unintuitively, for the sake of a pun?
...and our choosy mothers here would never choose "Jif" becase we pronounce our "J" like you pronounce your "Y", and it just sounds wrong somehow. Besides, we don't like the wimpy ways you pronounce your "G", anyway. :) Viel Glück!!!
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Yap. It's the editor of the devil.
We go with the "sex" editor, meaning it's the editor replacing sex.
Obligatory comic: How we debate the pronounciation of...
Who gives a shit?
It's pronounced 'Graphics Interchange Format' or G - I - F, just like 'Portable Document Format' is pronounced P - D - F. We aren't about to argue how to pronounce 'pdf' as a word, are we?
So, given your own examples, now it should be "jayf" or "jif"?
The G in GIF stands for GRAPHICS, which doesn't start with a J sound. Therefore I, and many others, have pronounced GIF with a "hard" G since its inception as a file format, and we are not wrong to do so. I will argue this until I die, I am not kidding.
This is a hacked account, for which the owner can not be held responsible.
DCLXVI, the number of the beast!
vi is simply pronounced "we I"
I never even heard anyone say as in *gift* until the late 90's. I always find it funny. I also find it irritating when someone tries to lecture me on computers when they don't know shit like this.
nt
GENERATION 26: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation.
....just use PNG!
How very descent of you to say that.
Not true. People can correct for errors, but they're still errors. It's much harder work than listening to someone who doesn't need decoding.
This applies in writing too. The middle sentence of your post is a fucking train wreck.
Your advice on language usage ranks right up there with Stephen Hawking's guide to rollerblading.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Which language, though? J sound before i or e is the rule in Italian. Of the words you used gentle, giants & angels are from that side of the family. Orange is Spanish, though it should be norange.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Only in Geordie land.
but closing off with an F.
It is all connected. The "Jif" brand used to be called "Vim" in my country.
As far as anyone who is not an asshole is concerned, it's pronounced:
dgif or jif or jaff or juf or giph or goph or steve.
It all depends on how big of a pedantic asshole you're talking to, and what you want them to think of you.
For example. The stuff soda cans are made of. If you pronounce it al-OO-min-um, people will likely surmise you're American, or at least, not from a commonwealth country. If you pronounce it al-oo-MIN- i um, you're most likely British or from a commonwealth country, (a current or former part of the British empire OTHER than the US.
If someone says, "send it to me as a 'Gif' image," OR "send it to me as a 'djiph' image," will you be confused and transmit it as a 'BRUFPHTH' image? No. There are at least two perfectly legit ways to pronounce it.
I pronounce it like the peanut butter, or the first half of "jiffy" as in, "I'll tell you how to pronounce this word in a GIF-fy" but if you say GIF as in gift without the T, I won't dgump down your throat.
https://youtu.be/MSJaSS_Zj0Y
#DeleteFacebook
There's a gigantic gigabyte gif in my git repo Giles!
God said, "div D = rho, div B = 0, curl E = -@B/@t, curl H = J + @D/@t," and there was light.
Six is actually funny.
I played once with an america ex soldier Eve Online. There are planets and the planets have moons, both are numbered using roman numbers. He insisted calling "lets warp to planet vie eye eye and moon eye eye eye" ... So I asked: "you are aware that this are roman numbers?" He was confused and answered "yes, and that is how we pronounce them in the field" (not sure if that is true - we simply pronounce them by saying the number, never heard any one else spelling them out letter by letter).
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
Seriously now.
Emacs vs. Vim anyone?
Tabs vs. Spaces? (It's tabs, btw. but since the Space morons are always are quick to set the standards I play along when a project is standards compliant).
Bottom line:
Quabbles like these show that we have nothing other than first world problems, which is a good thing.
Be glad and perhaps help someone in need close by, but please stop debating this stuff for longer than 90 seconds per year.
My 2 cents.
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
English is retarded.
Well, one of the least retarded languages out there.
But still retarded.
Look at e.g. Polish. Every letter has its own sound.
Every. Well, almost: there are two-sounds like sz, cz.
You can actually *read* Polish, not guess the pronunciation. Even one letter at a time. So handy for children learning this beautiful language...
How fscking retarded one must be to have spoken language, which consists of limited number of well-known sounds, and create a written language in which letters do not match these sounds?!
I can promise you the linguist didn't write that. No linguist worth their salt would use an extra dot for an ellipsis-as-a-comma.
Slashdot writers probably shouldn't either.
...
If they're pronouncing it in the field, and pronouncing th letters, then it should have been pronounced
"Let's warp to planet Victor India India and moon India India India"
"An out of date obsolete format pressed into a use it was never designed for"
Honestly, it only supports up to 256 colours. It uses LZW compression which is only useful for images created in a pixel based paint program. It can be used for poor quality animations, but its lack of worthwhile compression means we end up with huge files.
You forgot /etc, as in et-see. Also, vi is always ve-i, two distinct syllables.
Many of the original 2-letter commands in Unix are pronounced as their letters: ar, tr, ls, vi, rm, etc..
CAP === 'sterling'
Yes, it is written "GIF' but it is pronounced "Throatwobbler Mangrove"!
IDGIF!
Can't we go back to discussing about Trump?
How to make people (any race or creed or unknown origin) stop saying forward slash then repeating it as if the first instance was not cringe-inducing enough.
Hereâ(TM)s the thing all you snowflakes. Back in the good old days when we downloaded our porn over 2400, we literally watched the gif load in real time. Because it took literally minutes to load. A real time peep show. Watch it load line by line.
Wait, what was the question again? Ah yes itâ(TM)s gif with the soft g you tools.
G is supposed to be soft before I or E. Just like C is soft before I or E. The problem isn't English. The problem is the morons who don't know how to spell English.
Gift should have been spelt guift just like guild and guilt. At it's very core, English is a Germanic language, but it got a massive French overhaul that fundamentally changed things. Gif - soft G - is for the educated French overlords. Guif is for the archaic, uneducated, backwoods Briton.
As an aside, in contrast, for 7,000 years Indo-European has distinguished between lie and lay. But the dumb Yanks in less than one generation have proven that their modern society has regressed back to caveman days, a verifiable idiocracy. For the cavemen out there: 'you lie down on a bed, and lay your keys down onto your night-stand." Ghet it? Got it? Good.
Because there is no alternative to pronouncing a .jif extension.
As you were.
He explains the illogic of when people say "since G stands for Graphical, therefore its a hard G". And gives a lot of irrefutable examples. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Can we just get rid of soft-G in general?
If your goal is for me to make the J sound, write a J.
Likewise, C, S, and K.
-Dave
GIF has not changed much in tech since 1989 (it was developed in 1987). For most of its existence it had been pronounced with a soft g, like "jif". That means that in its 32 year existence MOST people had called it with a soft-g. Meaning, gif wasn't simply invented recently as a way to pass animated memes on social media.
Anyway, it wasn't until gif's resurgence in popularity among the (primarily) Millenials to pass animated imagery via instant messaging and other social media that its pronunciation was rechristened by them to be a hard "G", because after all "GIF" looks like the shortened version of "GIFT" and they are kinda/sorta receiving a gift from a friend when they get an animated surprise message! Hooray!
Gif's CHANGED pronunciation -- to be a hard-G -- is actually a new occurrence in Gif's very long history. And so, for the young generation to think they somehow invented gif and now are trying to "teach" others how to pronounce it correctly kinda seems comical.
This whole mess could have been averted if APNG replaced the aging and horribly inefficient Gif. APNG is a better format. Yes GIF and APNG are both lossless, but APNG has much better compression, supports 24-bit color (gif only supports 256 colors), 8-bit transparency, and of course animation, but with much more granular control and options. It's also supported in all major browsers. But yet GIF just won't die already.
Oh God, that brings up bad memories of co-workers saying "Oh Ess Eks"!
but it should really be pronounced png.
The presumption that there is only one "correct way" is a lie.
Not this shit AGAIN!
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Way to make a strawman when you have nothing else to write about in your column. Make up that everyone is fighting about something. If one hundredth of one percent of "us" are fighting about this, I'd be surprised.
Video codecs that play in web browsers for iOS are patented. This means a user living in Slashdot's home country or another country with software patents has to purchase a licensed AVC encoder. GIF, by contrast, is no longer patented.
How do you provide a mask for a video that plays in a web browser so that some parts of each frame are transparent?
split the image in 256 color chunks and change palette for each animation frame showing each chunk
The sample animation you linked shows only one 256-color chunk animating at once. I'm interested to see a tech demo of multiple palette chunks animating in parallel. If you don't animate, you might as well use PNG.
Who's "we", and if they're twitiots, why care? Fucking kids and their complete lack of priorities.
when used for animations it provides no inter-frame compression at all. Each frame is run-length encoded separately.
GIF animations can "stack" a transparent frame on the previous frames. GIMP and numerous other GIF tools have a frame differencing feature that turns runs of pixels that match the previous frame into blocks of highly compressible transparency. This adds compression unless some pixels are changing from opaque to transparent or unless the scene has global motion.
When I started working on puters, I said gif. Now I say jif. Still work with puters.
The "I" is silent and the "F" is pronounced as if asking a question.
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Don't worry about it. Use PNGs.
https://www.youtube.com/c/BrendaEM
Hi, I'm Leenus Toorvalds and I pronounce gif as pee enn gee.
I haven't strong opinions on this debate.
But the argument "That's why when everyone comes across the word for the first time, they use a hard G [as in "gift"]", just don't sound correct. May be true for North Americans, maybe. But it surely isn't for a lot of people in Europe, or in South America. I don't even venture thinking about people in Asia.
I still say that. It is cooler than 10.
The creator of the standard explicitly explained it is pronounced like the peanut butter, with a soft g. That's how it was pronounced for years. It's not hard to pronounce it the way the creator suggests. It doesn't hurt anyone except Germans!.
Here's the snowflake tldr;
I can't believe you would aggressively re-appropriate my culture like this! You tyrant!
There is ONE good thing about the pronunciation difference. It serves as early warning that you are about to be told (oh so earnestly) by a hip ninja-coder that it would really be better if you replaced every piece of your stack with a new java script framework.
500 million Spanish speakers can't be wrong.
Jif is a a peanut butter. Gif is a Graphics format.
On the otherhand the worls might be a better place if we could gave something called Computer Giraffics. I don't know what it would be but the logo would be nice.
And I like Scooby do, so I prefe Scuba prononced Scooba.
And dont' get me started on FuBar and Ghoti.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
The original developer chose a totally non-logical pronunciation for his acronym, at that's just going to fail the test of time.
Speaking of the test of time, this shouldn't even matter anymore.
Just die already.
Nassau is a place. NASA is the US space agency.
BBC is wrong, consistent, but wrong.
Ga-IF - hard G.
And to all the Jeff's spelling your names wrong, you should fix that too.
And don't get me started with Vietnamese, Korean and Chinese names written using Latin characters. Either use the normal sounds or go with a European name like Vicky/Victor, Steve, Sean. I have yet to meet anyone from Japan who selected Larry as their western name. Why is that?
Of course, westerners can't pronounce thousands and thousands of words in Mandarin, Japanese, Korean, Thai, Vietnamese - I dated a girl who couldn't even say "Vietnamese" - she didn't know she couldn't pronounce it. After that point, she'd always convert to "the people of Vietnam" - smart. Should have married her.
then 'jif' would be right.
but it's not.
That's easy. I pronounce it "vim".
Like lime right? I knew I wasn't the only one.
How do you pronounce Wilhite??
And SCSI should be pronounced "sexy"!
"According to Apple Computer Corporation documentation, pronounced sexy (Only by Apple itself)"
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/SCSI
In the Youtube video, Steve Wilhite's animated acceptance speech is "It's pronounced 'JIF' not 'GIF'".
So, if we substitute "GIF" for the pronoun "it", we get "GIF is pronounced 'JIF' not 'GIF'" or, if we omit the "JIF" term and move "not" to make it grammatically correct for English, we simply get "GIF is not pronounced 'GIF'"
I find this amusing.
Anti-Vaxxer
Animated Gifs are quite common nowadays - often being used as 'reaction-images' in forums and social media. In fact, the Millennials call any moving image that isn't a 'video' a 'Gif'. Their main limitation is that they are limited to 8 bits per pixel (with a palette) - hence 256 colours. Seeing that nowadays, just about everyone uses 24-bit colour, the MNG and APNG formats did not take off despite having been around for more than 10 years (IIRC, Mozilla deliberately decided to drop MNG from their browser back in 2003(?) for reasons unknown to myself). An image such as this satisfying animation of tea being poured would look a lot better if it wasn't limited to 256 colours. I really hope that whoever created it kept the source-material.
Since the G in the acronym is short for Graphical the G in GIF is also pronounced the same as the word. Therefore it is pronounced GIF, not jif. Problem solved.
"A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson
GIF --> MSFT
gif --> UNIX
jif --> pedantic Englishman
hif --> Jorge
Ever hear of a Jiraffe???
If any pedantic autistic shit nerds goes on correcting you, punch him hard, kick his teeth in, piss over the quivering little shit and then force him to run away with his pants down. Everybody likes it when autistic shit nerds are humiliated.
"G" is graphics. Hard g. The creator is a moron. (He does this for the publicity)
dead or pronounced 'webm'. Actual .gif images died a while ago anyway yet the morons still eat up 'gfycat' or imgurs .gifv switcher. This is leading to a regression since people still type in 'how to make gif' and google tells them exactly how to make that shitty image format with zero p-frames.
As long as we don't start in wifi and Gigawats
Gif as in giraffe. Why are people even arguing about this? And yes, jpeg is jay-peg, and png is pee-en-gee, global warming/pollution is happening, and Pluto is a planet.
This is some old-school Usenet-level argument going on in here. Makes me nostalgic!
I think you are confusing peanut butter with a cleaning product.
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
just a reminder that Boucher the originator of the SCSI name intended it to be pronounced sexy not skuzzy
probably wednesday arctic often comfortable applicable nuclear iran espresso gala gyro qatar mauve meme february
people are bad at pronouncing plenty of other words, so why should i care for their "opinion" on this?
giant george genuine generate giraffe genius gem gentle general germ ginger
yeah, tell me another one.
I pronounce regex wrong too. :)
Folks, it's not the word, it's the language.
Forget about the correct way to say it (or write it)... it's English, you'd better get used to the lack of rules (and that does NOT mean Freedom, no matter what you're smoking...)
we should ban gifs and end this whole pronounciation discussion which has been going on for decades and stop the flood of animated gifs.
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
how many drinks I've had. and indeed it does become a soft G after a while.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Just drop the T.
That has the same G sound as graphics.
http://progressquest.com/spoltog.php?name=Son+Of+Son+Of+DarkRookie
Hello, I'm Steve Wilhite and I pronounce GIF as GIF.
JRAPHICS PARK
What do brits have against peanut butter, anyway?
It tastes vile. It seems to be the North American equivalent of marmite or, for our Australian friends, vegemite. Somehow if you are exposed to these products as a young kid your body must develop some type of immunity to the taste to protect you. Thereafter you can safely ingest the stuff and possibly even pretend to enjoy it while for the rest of us the only protection we have is our gag reflex.
"JIF" is a trademarked name. Given the litiginous-happy state of America, it's a wonder the J.M. Smucker Company hasn't started suing anyone who says "jif" when referring to a digital file format for diluting their brand identity. But give them time...