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YouTube Disabled Comments On Livestreams Of A Congressional Hearing On White Nationalism Because They Were Too Hateful (buzzfeednews.com)
Tuesday's hearing was meant to examine the rise of white nationalism and white supremacy and the role social media plays in its spread. Then the comments got hijacked. From a report: YouTube moderators disabled comments on livestreams of the House Judiciary Committee's hearing about hate crimes the rise of white nationalism on Tuesday, deeming them too hateful for the platform. The comment sections quickly flooded with hate speech and white nationalist memes before the hearing had even started. The comments included derogatory remarks about women on camera, anti-Semitic slurs, far-right memes with references to "white genocide," and pro-Trump slogans. The channels' comments sections were deactivated within an hour. [...] YouTube's disabling of comments is ironic: House Judiciary Committee Chair Jerrold Nadler, a Democrat from New York, made special reference in his opening statement of the role social media platforms play in spreading hate speech and extremism in his opening statement.
I don't know if these "You Tube Moderators" have looked around much, but you can find hateful comments on pretty much any video. Why block comments on just this one?
If YouTube wants to block "hateful comments" why do they allow comments anywhere?
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
The more speech is suppressed the stronger the suppressed will react. Censorship is a loser's game
Hey Anonymous Coward - Don't quote the constitution if you don't understand it.
The constitution says THE GOVERNMENT can't censor your speech. Last time I checked, there was no mention in the constitution of private corporations like YouTube.
YouTube blocked comments on this video because it's politically sensitive. They want to maintain control of the narrative, and having the congress look at the comments is likely to impact their control of the narrative.
I understand what a "white supremacist" is. I understand what a "French Nationalist", or a "Argentinian Nationalist" would be. However, the term "White Nationalist" is semantically and massively wrong (but then, so would "Black Nationalist" or "Asian Nationalist"...) After all, what nation is titled as "White"?
I get that stamping out racism is a good thing, but seriously, folks - at least don't mangle the language while you do it.
Quo usque tandem abutere, Nimbus, patientia nostra?
Free Speech. Guaranteed by the first (foremost) amendment to the supreme law of the land.
Anyone who would knowingly abridge it is an enemy of the United States of America.
Period. Full Stop.
All Trump supporters should be tied to a post and flogged with a clue stick whilst wearing a refrigerated steel butt plug up their fundament <- That was free speech, now mod me up for making use of the 1st amendment.
Why is the government then using a private corporation like YouTube to stream?
It's nearly the 10 year anniversary of John Gabriel's groundbreaking theory. https://www.penny-arcade.com/c...
Free Speech. Guaranteed by the first (foremost) amendment to the supreme law of the land.
Anyone who would knowingly abridge it is an enemy of the United States of America.
Period. Full Stop.
All Trump supporters should be tied to a post and flogged with a clue stick whilst wearing a refrigerated steel butt plug up their fundament <- That was free speech, now mod me up for making use of the 1st amendment.
So, modded down to -1 already, it's fun being censored by a bunch of Trump supporters who usually are the first to complain about being censored for hating on brown people in violation of their rights under the 1st amendment.
Agreed. Just look at 4chan, the guys who tried to get "hitler did nothing wrong" voted as a new Mountain Dew flavor. The do it to get a rise out of people, or in their own words, do it for the lulz. There certainly are real neo nazis, stormfront wouldn't exist otherwise, but that site has always been tiny. I think it more closely represents the true size of such groups. And they aren't all that big or threatening.
What we do have is a polarization problem right now. It feels like people are generally more divided than they have been in some time. Trolls being trolls and Godwin's law has always been a thing. But now I see people seriously calling others Nazis and getting into fights about it. Guys, nobody is a Nazi. We used to be able to disagree about politics. Just exaggerating everything and demonizing one another just pushes each other farther apart. Until eventually we do have people who are something like Nazis when they otherwise wouldn't be.
For the same reason the Government uses newspapers to advertise and TV networks for televised addresses. Just because the government can use private companies for providing services does not mean that private companies suddenly become branches of the government, and bound to the first Amendments.
Jesus Christ, the utter lack of understanding on the part of some here just astonishes. This black and white thinking, this inability to comprehend nuance or complexity, and the fundamental ignorance that gets married to it, so that your lack of knowledge gets coupled with astonishing arrogance, that you become blind to how things are actually supposed to work.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
As usual, the dullards miss the teeny, tiny caveat to the First Amendment. It only applies to the government.
As has been stated who knows how many times, a company is free to limit free speech if it so chooses. This is no different than if a casino doesn't want to provide service to someone. It's their property, their rules. Same with YouTube.
It has nothing to do with being an "enemy" of the U.S. It has to do with a company doing what it wants on its platform. Don't like it? Don't frequent YouTube.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
Upwards of 4% of European DNA is Neanderthal DNA; black Africans have zero Neanderthal DNA.
The point is not that one group is "better" than another, but this idea that all humans are clones of each other, and that race is a social construct, makes no sense; it makes no sense in the raw numbers, and it makes no sense in everyday life.
People know it's bullshit.
Now, look into average IQ measurements. Come on; you can do it. Stare into that deep abyss, and know reality for what it is.
Um, actually, if you march carrying torches at night shouting Nazi slogans, then yes, you are a Nazi. Mike Godwin himself, author of that law, came out and publicly said "Go right ahead and call them Nazis, because they are!" AC
Guys, nobody is a Nazi.
You generally have a good point, but the people marching with torches chanting "the Jews will not replace us" are nazis.
Not everyone who disagrees with me is a nazi. Nor is everyone more conservative than I am or everyone who believes negative stereotypes based on skin color or religion.
But that does not mean there are no nazis.
But the interesting difference between your lawn and google's lawn is google has opened their lawn to the public. For now you are correct but we do need to have a conversation about privately owned public spaces.
But I don't see anyone banning Che Guevara shirts.
That anyone would think they are making a point by starting off with fake laughter and the word "seriously"
If you can't deal with talking about issues own it and and own the rest of your mental health problems.
any place at all where speech is truly free is going to be flooded with hatred trying to drown out everything else.
It's unfortunate, and I don't have a solution, but it is an incontrovertible fact of life.
I totally disagree. Sunlight is a great disinfectant, and more speech is always better. The issue comes in echo chambers that are cut off from one another either voluntarily or by force. These allow extreme ideas and sentiment to exist. Some of the best research on getting rid of extremism states that two people talking will do more than nearly any amount of censorship.
It's a lot harder to use the n-word when a friend will smack you in the back of the head. It's a lot harder to breed resentment when people close to you say "not cool" when you post about white genocide. Virtue signalling usually gets you odd looks when you do it on the bus. But get into a community of like minded people who enforce such behavior and that all goes out the window.
Being social and interacting with others is a muscle like any other (even the "brain muscle")... without training and exercise one can easily become an NPC.
I find it amusing and interesting that the "conservatives" want businesses to have rights and religion when they are discriminating against gays, but freak out when some business decides they don't want said "conservatives" as a customer.
It's a bit like the "tolerance" groups that only have tolerance for the groups/religions/etc. THEY like.
Left/Right, D/R, doesn't matter. They are all stupid. :)
There is an awful lot of anger out there.
Those of Caucasian decent have been told for years that they are racists simply because of their skin color.
They can't be discriminated against because they aren't the right color.
They have something called " White Privilege " that, apparently, is some sort of " I win " button available on tap.
They get turned down for jobs and education slots because the Company or University has to have enough minorities lest they be called racists too.
Standardized tests are all racist because, apparently, minorities have issues with them. So they just get rewritten to make the numbers look better.
Slavery is still their fault apparently, irregardless of the fact the last " slaves " in America were freed ~150 years ago.
( The reparations movement, and all the politicians using it to further their political career, can just f*ck off. )
Starting a #WhiteLivesMatter movement would instantly be classified as some White Nationalist Klan Nazi Terrorist Group and the media would just lose it.
Given the above:
Is there anyone out there who doesn't think a very small percentage of impacted folks might be just a tad bit angry about it all ?
Is there anyone out there who doesn't think an even smaller percentage of that small percentage might even be REALLY angry about it ?
And of that laughably tiny percentage, a few folks might actually do something rather radical ?
This is shocking why ?
Maybe they're just tired of being the " Bad Guy " for nothing more than their skin color.
The Problem is that when you cut programs for fighting domestic terror in a country where white supremacists account for a disproportionate amount of attacks and then say both sides are bad when literal Nazis are rallying, well...
There just comes a time to call a Spade a Spade. I don't care of Trump really drinks the Kool-Aid or is just doing it for the votes or even the lulz. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and hiel Hitler's like a duck, it's a White Nationalist. Sooner we stop living in denial the better. This will not end well for us otherwise. Ignoring reality never does...
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