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Ecuador Complains Julian Assange Was a Bad Housegust, Neglected His Pet Cat (bbc.com)

The BBC reports that Ecuador's foreign minister Jose Valencia has been sharing complaints about Julian Assange's conduct during his stay in Ecuador's embassy -- for example, that Julian Assange "damaged the facilities by riding his skateboard and playing football, despite being told not to do so." Cleaning staff, Mr Valencia said, had described "improper hygienic conduct" throughout Assange's stay, an issue that a lawyer had attributed to "stomach problems". One unnamed senior Ecuadorean official told AP news agency that other issues included "weeks without a shower" and a "dental problem born of poor hygiene". Interior Minister Maria Paula Romo then complained that Assange had been allowed to do things like "put faeces on the walls of the embassy and other behaviours of that nature...."

Assange's stay at the embassy cost Ecuador some $6.5m (£5m) from 2012 to 2018, Mr Valencia said.

NPR reports that Julian Assange's cat also "arguably played a small role in Ecuador's decision to end its asylum agreement," citing remarks from Ecuador President Lenin Moreno: Moreno explained that Assange treated his hosts disrespectfully; late last year the embassy implemented a series of rules for Assange, including a requirement to be responsible for the "well-being, food, hygiene and proper care of your pet." If Assange didn't, the embassy threatened to put the cat in a shelter. In other words, it is likely that Assange didn't effectively clean up after his cat's own wiki-leaks...

The New Yorker reported in 2017 that Assange's interest in the cat was less as an animal lover and more as a master of his own brand. "Julian stared at the cat for about half an hour, trying to figure out how it could be useful, and then came up with this: Yeah, let's say it's from my children," the magazine quoted one of Assange's friends as saying. "For a time, he said it didn't have a name because there was a competition in Ecuador, with schoolchildren, on what to name him. Everything is P.R. -- everything."

Journalist James Ball, an early WikiLeaks employee (who left after three months) said Thursday on Twitter that he'd "genuinely offered to adopt" the cat -- but it was "reportedly given to a shelter by the Ecuadorian embassy ages ago."

Assange's legal team, however, tweeted in November that Assange had been outraged by embassy threats to send the cat to the pound, and asked his lawyers "to take his cat to safety. The cat is with Assange's family. They will be reunited in freedom."

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  1. Gaslighting? by houstonbofh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can't help but think that a lot of this character assignation is cover so that no one is talking about how he was sold out for a $4.2 billion loan...

    1. Re:Gaslighting? by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      From his rants and ravings, I expect this guy just isn't right in the head. Normally these "warriors of the norm" tend to have issues with basic common courtesy. Part of the outrage from what is considered normal for these people, because they just cannot understand normal conditions needed to live with other people.
      Often, people who don't understand why people treat them poorly, they assume it is their fault, where it just may be them making others uncomfortable.

      Being such an outsider is probably what drives him to do what he does, but it is also putting him into additional trouble. He was a guest of the Ecuador government, he seemed to think that the government is an unbreakable ally, not realizing that governments are just a group of people, the same groups of people he has a hard time dealing with.

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    2. Re:Gaslighting? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2

      It could be but my opinion is that Assange seems like a guy who would do things on purpose just to screw with you.

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    3. Re:Gaslighting? by Falos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm leaning towards "opportunistic assassination". I'm quite ready to believe he's an asshole, and a good chunk of TFS.

      But only a naive person will overlook how emphatically it's being presented as relevant. Plenty of criminals were unhygienic assholes and such, but how many articles about murderers bother to mention it? Except as distraction, a sideshow, a circus, misdirection.

      Or to discredit someone. Especially someone with things to claim that you really want discredited.

    4. Re:Gaslighting? by hdyoung · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, a fair bit of it is spin, misinformation and gaslighting, and the US clearly got Ecuador to come over to it's side on the matter. I have no illusions about my own country. Initially, the US was doing everything in it's power to screw with him from any angle that it could, then for a few years they were content to keep him bottled up, but eventually decided to end the game and bring him in.

      That being said, there's been enough coverage get a clear picture of him beyond the hype - he's a controlling megalomaniac who thought that he could hold his own playing power-geo-politics in the same arena as the US and Russia. The man thought that he could go toe-to-toe with a frikkin superpower. Talk about delusions of grandeur.

      Wikileaks was a noble idea at the very start but it quickly got corrupted, and Assange himself is mostly to blame. If you're going to run a clean free-information clearinghouse, then you treat all submitted information the same and release it all in the same matter. Assange wasn't doing this. He was releasing some info, holding other info back, and timing the releases in order to settle scores and make points with whomever he chose. Sorry, you don't get to do that and simultaneously claim victimhood or nobility. Well, you can, but anyone with (IQ>90) isn't gonna buy it.

    5. Re:Gaslighting? by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      Remember it was the Obama administration that did not bring charges against Assange because it was felt this would be a bad precedent for journalists who do the same thing. Then Trump, who once praised Assange, soured on him and his administration pressed charges.

      And yes, Assange was controlling wikileaks from where he was, one of the things that the Ecuadorean embassy was not happy about (ie, not politics while being a refugee).

    6. Re:Gaslighting? by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 2

      He doesn't do them to screw you, he does them to enhance his own image. When I first heard about the cat I was pretty confused, Mendax never gave a toss about animals, why would he want a cat? This NPR commentary explains it.

      And no, it's not a smear campaign, that's the real Assange, they're describing him as he actually is.

    7. Re:Gaslighting? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Being stuck in the Ecuadorian embassy for years will not have improved his health, mental or physical.

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  2. Cardinal Richelieu could have written this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him.

    A depressed man stares at his cat? He must be a rogue!

    1. Re: Cardinal Richelieu could have written this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Will make a better movie than SJW Skywalker.

  3. Yeah sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No character assassination going on here, just honest diplomatic concern.

  4. When there's bipartisan agreement by DCFusor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Get out the lube...you're about to be bent over. Ask Sam Clemens and many others. Julian peed in a lotta cornflakes. Funny that not one of the offended parties claims anything he published was fake or a lie. This is pure shoot the messenger to deflect from your own guilt stuff.

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  5. Equator has been complaining about him for years by pgmrdlm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    About not taking care of his cat.

    About him having terrible hygiene.

    About him wiping feces all over the walls

    About verbally attacking officials at the embassy

    Remember, they started restricting his movements and internet access years before. This is NOTHING new.

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  6. He's an asshole by DogDude · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know, I was originally behind what he was trying to do, but now I just see the guy as a self-serving asshole. He shits on everybody with no apparent rhyme or reason: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/12/world/europe/ecuador-assange-wikileaks.html. I do think that getting government secrets out in the open is important, but there's a right way and a wrong way to do it. He's done it the wrong way.

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  7. Re:Equator has been complaining about him for year by pgmrdlm · · Score: 2

    Would YOU accept that type of behavior by any guest in your house? I doubt it. But, because he is your idol and it wasn't your house. You forgive him. Yes or no????

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  8. Re:Don't believe it for a second by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While the feces on walls thing is new, the not showering thing has been reported for several years.

    Not that any of this has to do with whether Assange should be granted asylum or not (probably not, he was running from a rape investigation) or whether he should be being charged by the US as a party to Manning's "crimes" (probably not on that, no.) It suggests he's an asshole (but we already knew that about stuff that's actually important), I'm just saying that at least some of this, about the cat and the lack of personal hygene, is old news.

    Also it's not even a wiki.

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  9. Re:True or not WTF difference does it make by jellomizer · · Score: 2

    The being the BBC news, not Fox News or MSNBC, I expect a degree of professional journalism from them. There is little to gain from making him seem like a model resident vs. a horrible human. In terms of the court and countries that want him to see locked up behind bars, they have more evidence to show thean being a bad house guest.

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  10. Viewpoint by a law professor ... by kbahey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is a opinion piece by a US law professor: How likely is an Assange conviction in the USA.

    The thing that Assange will be extradited for, is the password thing with Manning. The professor says this is no different than a journalist setting up a drop point for information.

    Never the less, Assange will be convicted, and most likely new charges will magically appear once he is on US soil.

    The issue here is not whether Assange has bad personal hygiene, or whether he is a self serving narcissist. The issue is freedom of the press in Western democracies, and the willingness to make an example out of him to deter others.

    1. Re:Viewpoint by a law professor ... by dryeo · · Score: 2

      Well luckily, as always pointed out here, the USA has strong freedom of speech protections so any judge will release him due to the 1st amendment.

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  11. bbc read slashdot by Cederic · · Score: 5, Informative

    After https://slashdot.org/comments.... I finally heard the BBC reporting on the radio this morning that Wikileaks have advised that the cat is ok.

    No mention of how Assange is doing, but at least they finally covered the important aspect of the story.

  12. Re:Don't believe it for a second by Richard_at_work · · Score: 2

    The UN ruling is ridiculous and should be laughed at, because it doesn't just cover the time in the Ecuadorean embassy - the UN ruling said Assange was "arbitrarily detained" from the moment he was first arrested under the extradition warrant.

    Basically, the UN ruling implied that no one can be arrested pending extradition. In fact, if taken seriously, it throws into doubt the entire concept of arrest and detention at any point prior to conviction.

    Which is why every one laughed at it and rightfully took no notice of it.

  13. Re:Don't believe it for a second by Darinbob · · Score: 2

    Also remember that most journalists don't just dump secret documents they get wholesale without curating them. This is why a lot of people hate Assange but praise Snowden.

  14. Re: True or not WTF difference does it make by astrofurter · · Score: 2

    "professional journalism"

    It appears all the semi-official media outlets are regurgitating the Official Narrative. I believe that is what's now considered journalistic professionalism.

  15. Re:Don't believe it for a second by MrKaos · · Score: 2

    He is not being charged with anything related to the mishandling or publishing of classified material.

    Not according to the charges laid. They allege that he was in possession of US military databases.

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  16. Re:Don't believe it for a second by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

    Assange just told the Swedish he's a Syrian refugee. So naturally they dropped the rape charges.

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