Posted by
CmdrTaco
on from the stuff-to-download dept.
Gaza writes
"Heard the Q3A linux test was just released on Id
Software's site a few minutes ago. It is going to be a
long night... " We're gonna need some mirrors people!
I have posted some thoughts and screenshots of it running under Linux at http://www.osoal.org.nz/ in the comments section. Basically its very cool, seems to run ok in 1024x768 on my celery 333 ( with 2 8mb diamond voodoo II's ).
-- I am a lawyer and this constitutes legal advice and I shall indemnify you against any losses arising from taking it.
...but I had to copy the libMesaGL.so.3.1 to the q3test directory and rename it to libGL.so. And obviously, the framerate was WAY too slow:) I ran it on my P2-350 w/ 128MB RAM.
These were set up already by all the Mac users and submitted to the Quake3T Finder database so you can thank them. Last time I checked, they all have pings below 200.
If the person who submitted this had bothered to check id's Quake 3 Arena web site, he'd see they already have a nice big list of mirror sites for downloading Q3Test.
A suggestion to those who get it
by
Coretti
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· Score: 2
And no, my suggestion isn't mirror it immediately - I hope you will have already done that.
What I'm going to suggest is that if you want to test the game, try a server other than id's. The night that the Mac version of Q3Test came out, the test servers (which Tim Willits said were on the same machine as the FTP server, for some stupid reason) were severely lagged. I don't think anyone other than the id employees had under a 500 ping.
So after hopping from mirror to mirror to find the damn program, I finally downloaded it and installed it.
Tried to run it. Can't run it.
I have a Riva TNT and NVidia is still without a Linux driver (not even a binary driver), so my TNT is basically a fancy 2D card and I can't play any neato games in linux. I refuse to boot into windows (i don't even think it works any more now that i've been booting into windows w/ vmware), and i don't care.
I do not claim to be able to damn anyone or anything to Hell, or anywhere else. I do not claim to be the right hand of Chaos. That aside, 408-615-2500 is a phone number to Nvidia's corporate headquarters. After calling it and stating my business, i was curtly forwareded to the desk of some or another marketing manager by a secretary that seemed like she'd already done that a thousand times today, where the marketing executive whoever's voicemail kindly kept him from having to talk to me and the countless others who may have called already. I have to wonder if perhaps nvidia just isn't aware of how powerful of an resource the linux community could be to them. Perhaps they have no idea? I wonder if it would change their minds if the evidence was all packed into their marketing manager's voicemail at 3:00 on an idle friday afternoon? --just an idea-- ~jon
Here are my Two private T1 Mirrors
by
Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 3
1. There isn't a current framerate counter. You can use 'timerefresh' to get a guess based on the current position.
2. Because you have vsync on. Turn it off. Quake3 has renderered its pass and is waiting to for the vblank interval to switch buffers. You can turn off vsync by doing this in the shell:
export FX_GLIDE_SWAPINTERVAL=0
3. Quake3 is a _lot_ more demanding than Q2. It pushes about five to ten times as many triangles as Q2 did. Use "fastest" in the video configuration along with r_lodbias 2 in the console.
4. This 'faster' you are seeing is vsync.
5. Great! The only real problem people are having is that Q3 blows up if you don't have a 16bit depth on the desktop. I'm going to revise this in the next test relesae.
Please add to this list. Personally, I'm amazed these companies don't have 800 numbers (they probably do and just don't list them). That does not speak well for their desire to hear feedback from customers.
I just called nVidia - and I told their receptionist that I HAD checked the website and needed to talk to someone (Dave was my victim) about the driver support.
Don't email. It doesn't take effort to email. SPEND the $ and make a call, or send it in via snail mail. Email has no real impact on the recipient, but taking the time to call and let them know in a friendly supportive way that you like their hardware but that you need the support or you'll have to go somewhere else really has a lot more impact. It's all about confrontation, you'll reach someone much more effectively by actually talking to them and appreciating their position, but holding firm on at least getting a binary driver module. It also takes up their time to have people answer the phones, email can be read and roundfiled in seconds.
Anyway, Dave was supportive (he offered the 2D X-Windows support which I explained was good but that I could do 2D with any old card, I had bought the TNT because it was the best 3D card (whether that's true is irrelevant - it helps to be supportive when we're asking for something)) and clearly unhappy at the prospect of telling me that there was no support for the 3D in Quake yet. He was really wanting to tell me what they had on their agenda but they have not made it public yet so he wasn't at liberty - I told him that I understood and that it was fine, I was willing to wait a little bit, but I wanted to know if the company even planned on addressing the issue. He then told me DEFINITELY and that in a couple of weeks he thought I would be very happy with what the company was doing.
You can./ their telephones WAY more easily than you can their website or email or mailroom. Most companies have very few incoming lines, when they can't do business they'll look for ways to address the problem, and to do so they'll HAVE to publicize some sort of stance that will keep us from calling.
I'd like to see some coordinated./ phone planning so that we can focus our efforts a vendor or two at a time and make them feel the demand.
My $.03 (inflation)
-- http://www.bullnet.com
Primitive Q3A Pinging tool
by
rebrane
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· Score: 3
it's kludgy as hell and it's written in perl, but it -does- ping a realtime list of public q3a servers for you. check it out: http://rebrane.k-r4d.com/~rebrane/lin uxspy.pl make sure to edit the constants in the top of the file (accepting command line arguments would be too nonkludgy).
As you may all know q3test runs out of the box on voodoo. But there are two other cards you can use it on. That's the matrox g200 and 3dlabs permedia 2. I'm in the process of making a HOWTO for the pm2. If you have such a card please let me know. I heard the fps wasnt that good (~10fps) , but viewable.
Also, it runs fine on vanialla mesa. (No 3d) on my celery 450 (300a oced), i get about 0.5 FPS with software only mesa. But it looks cool. Though xdm wouldnt take a screenshot, due to the way colors were handeled. Download q3 just to check it out at 0.5 fps! Yah!
More to come.
Department of Non-3dfx Users --
-- ...free your source and the rest would follow...
Hey... listen, I don't want to hear about "Q3Test doesn't support this" and "Q3Test doesn't support that". That's Windoze thinking. If Q3Test doesn't support your card, it probably means your card's manufacturer hasn't written drivers, or released the specs from which drivers could be written.
This means you should find 800 numbers and email addresses for that company and BUG THE HELL out of them. Whining on Slashdot about a lack of support will get you nowhere. Turn that energy to more productive efforts and start letter-writing campaigns to get get Linux drivers AND SPECS from nVidia, ATI, and others. Call their 800 numbers daily. Let them know that Linux users will not sit quietly and wait for the powers-that-be to acknowledge us.
I have posted some thoughts and screenshots of it running under Linux at http://www.osoal.org.nz/ in the comments section. Basically its very cool, seems to run ok in 1024x768 on my celery 333 ( with 2 8mb diamond voodoo II's ).
I am a lawyer and this constitutes legal advice and I shall indemnify you against any losses arising from taking it.
Go here to find quake3 servers for all your gaming needs.
2^5
I served up 8gigs the day the 2nd SW Trailer came out. Can we beat that?
templestowe.res.cmu.edu
...but I had to copy the libMesaGL.so.3.1 to the q3test directory and rename it to libGL.so. And obviously, the framerate was WAY too slow :)
I ran it on my P2-350 w/ 128MB RAM.
I got the whole quake3 dir mirrored on my linux box (along with the redhat 6 iso and tree)
:)
... and missing.
ftp://129.21.135.202/pub
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The art of flying is throwing yourself at the ground...
Look at lists.openprojects.net/mail man/listinfo/g200-dev
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Do you have X setup to emulate a middle mouse button when you have both pressed? That would definitely be a likely cause of your problem if you do...
Didn't I read something somewhere about support for the ATI 3D Rage Pro cards??
Oh, and when will they start making pcmcia voodoo cards, so we all can start enjoying quake on your laptops?
Is the cardbus tech fast enough?
If we can transfer the /. effect to telephone lines, we can make a BIG impression today.
Let's call them and demand Linux drivers by the time Q3A is released!
These were set up already by all the Mac users and submitted to the Quake3T Finder database so you can thank them. Last time I checked, they all have pings below 200.
207.126.125.81
216.33.28.135
24.130.84.219
140.160.38.58
128.193.141.243
129.123.1.24
209.232.186.173
216.101.212.137
24.0.194.145
209.77.121.130
209.20.177.59
128.138.140.101
207.183.249.202
209.43.135.111
24.113.18.121
216.36.24.47
209.102.106.170
198.28.62.76
128.113.175.234
204.0.130.110
204.52.135.50
128.118.209.8
207.170.210.25
24.64.247.71
4.3.32.77
24.112.9.58
209.107.90.14:21040
24.93.25.79
24.93.101.45:1044
24.2.44.20
24.93.26.115
207.161.246.243
128.118.125.25
24.64.201.214
128.2.98.20
24.93.63.4
128.123.68.14
206.53.233.68
209.53.28.217
24.64.96.84
194.88.93.27
194.88.93.27:27961
207.236.206.135
194.88.93.27:27962
163.1.186.38
207.239.72.11
If the person who submitted this had bothered to check id's Quake 3 Arena web site, he'd see they already have a nice big list of mirror sites for downloading Q3Test.
That's http://www.quake3arena.com/q3test/mirrors.html
And no, my suggestion isn't mirror it immediately - I hope you will have already done that.
What I'm going to suggest is that if you want to test the game, try a server other than id's. The night that the Mac version of Q3Test came out, the test servers (which Tim Willits said were on the same machine as the FTP server, for some stupid reason) were severely lagged. I don't think anyone other than the id employees had under a 500 ping.
There's a good server list on the id page at:
http://underworld.idsoftwa re.com/cgi-win/q3aservers.exe/
My machine is a K6-266 with an 8mb V2, running RedHat 6.0...
AdamL.
I had this problem.
If you have your mouse set to 'Microsoft' in your XF86Config, turn off both 'ChordMiddle' and 'Emulate3Buttons', and restart X.
Play interactive fiction! Its thriving, makes you think, and it's sexy. Reading is sexy. 90% of games can be played under Linux using X-zip of TADS.
ftp.gmd.de/if-archive (main archive)
rec.games.int-fiction (talk)
interactfiction.tqn.com (resource)
www.textfire.com (competition!)
Using inform, a reversed engineered language that makes 100% infocom games, things are cool. That was a bad gramatical sentence.
Ok, enough envangilizing.
when Push Comes to Shove
Tried to run it. Can't run it.
I have a Riva TNT and NVidia is still without a Linux driver (not even a binary driver), so my TNT is basically a fancy 2D card and I can't play any neato games in linux. I refuse to boot into windows (i don't even think it works any more now that i've been booting into windows w/ vmware), and i don't care.
Damn NVidia! Damn you to HELL!
all i have is the RPM
50 clients:
ip: 35.10.22.48
login: slash
pass: dot
ip: 21
20 clients:
ip: 35.10.22.61
login: slash
pass: dot
ip: 21
Anthony Fuentes
fuentesa@egr.msu.edu
1. There isn't a current framerate counter. You can use 'timerefresh' to get a guess based on the current position.
2. Because you have vsync on. Turn it off. Quake3 has renderered its pass and is waiting to for the vblank interval to switch buffers. You can turn off vsync by doing this in the shell:
export FX_GLIDE_SWAPINTERVAL=0
3. Quake3 is a _lot_ more demanding than Q2. It pushes about five to ten times as many triangles as Q2 did. Use "fastest" in the video configuration along with r_lodbias 2 in the console.
4. This 'faster' you are seeing is vsync.
5. Great! The only real problem people are having is that Q3 blows up if you don't have a 16bit depth on the desktop. I'm going to revise this in the next test relesae.
/// Zoid.
ATI - email: sales@atitech.ca
phone: (905)882-2600 - Sales and Marketing
nVidia - email: info@nvidia.com
phone: (408) 615-2500
Please add to this list. Personally, I'm amazed these companies don't have 800 numbers (they probably do and just don't list them). That does not speak well for their desire to hear feedback from customers.
http://rebrane.k-r4d.com/~rebrane/lin uxspy.pl
make sure to edit the constants in the top of the file (accepting command line arguments would be too nonkludgy).
Check www.3dfiles.com. They have a list of mirrors. I'm heading there now.
Linuxberg has it, so check your berg mirrors to see if they updated yet. Should be soon
/Rob
--- Webmaster - http://linux-howto.com, http://ext2.org Helpdesk - http://www.linuxberg.com ICQ: 12542549
Hello,
As you may all know q3test runs out of the box on voodoo. But there are two other cards you can use it on. That's the matrox g200 and 3dlabs permedia 2. I'm in the process of making a HOWTO for the pm2. If you have such a card please let me know. I heard the fps wasnt that good (~10fps) , but viewable.
Also, it runs fine on vanialla mesa. (No 3d) on my celery 450 (300a oced), i get about 0.5 FPS with software only mesa. But it looks cool. Though xdm wouldnt take a screenshot, due to the way colors were handeled. Download q3 just to check it out at 0.5 fps! Yah!
More to come.
Department of Non-3dfx Users
--
Hey... listen, I don't want to hear about "Q3Test doesn't support this" and "Q3Test doesn't support that". That's Windoze thinking. If Q3Test doesn't support your card, it probably means your card's manufacturer hasn't written drivers, or released the specs from which drivers could be written.
This means you should find 800 numbers and email addresses for that company and BUG THE HELL out of them. Whining on Slashdot about a lack of support will get you nowhere. Turn that energy to more productive efforts and start letter-writing campaigns to get get Linux drivers AND SPECS from nVidia, ATI, and others. Call their 800 numbers daily. Let them know that Linux users will not sit quietly and wait for the powers-that-be to acknowledge us.
WE WANT QUAKE, AND WE WANT IT NOW!
bowms