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Happy Odd Day!
From a mailing-list "Today is November 19th, 1999. The numerical format for today is 19-11-1999. All of the digits are odd. The next Odd day will be 1-1-3111 - which is well over a thousand years away, which we will never see. Days such as 13-4-89 have both even and odd digits, thus, it is neither odd nor even. The next even day will be 2-2-2000 - the first one since 28-8-888. So, now you have a reason to celebrate this Friday as it'll be your last odd day on Earth!!!!!!" So Slashdot wishes you a nice odd day!
...but I expect to live to see 1-1-3111. :^)
As Woody Allen said, some people try to achieve immortality through their work, others through their children. I hope to achieve immortality by not dying.
True that! It confuses the crap out of my teachers when I put the date for the jewish calendar on my papers...
This is easier:
bash$ factor 1999
1999: 1999
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Does anyone remember were they were at
12:34:56 on 7/8/90 ? (following American date "standard, July 8th).
A perfect sequeance of numbers
or, for others. August 7th.
That won't happen for a few years.
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"They refuse to listen"? How odd. All it takes is a simple demonstration of Cantor's diagonalization approach, and there you have it.
However, all of number theory relies on the fact that 1 is not prime. The Fundamental Theory of Arithmetic (that every number has a unique prime factorization) would fall flat on its face if you could stick in as many 1's as you wanted.
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Cool, so as another poster mentioned, 11:59:59 19/11/1999 is the last odd timestamp of our lifetimes. It's also an entirely prime timestamp!
That will be one primo second to be alive!
Eric
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the last prime number day was 7/31/1999 and the next one is 1/1/2003.
Party on!
Some days I get the sinking feeling Orwell was an optimist.
Although, this isn't terribly fascinating, seeing as how 11-19-1997 was all odd, too.
And last Wednesday, and last Monday. And the Saturday before that. And the Thursday before that. And Tuesday before that. Then the previous Sunday. And that Friday, Wednesday and Monday.
Woo. I'm underwhelmed.
Last time I checked, 1,1,2001 is odd...
The formula for odd numbers is 2*(n+.5)
N for 2001 = 100
N for 1 = 0
It may be the last one of the millenium, but not the last we will be alive to see. (At least I hope so!)
This kind of story brings out the people who don't bother to read before they post. 2001 contains 3 even digits, 2, 0, and 0. the requirements state that all digits must be odd.
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All Real numbers are not Integers, but all Integers are Real.
While we're being pedantic, this should read "Not all Real numbers are Integers," or better, "Not all real numbers are integers." The way you phrased it seems to say that none of the real numbers are also integers, which is the opposite of your point.
"All people are not dead" is very different from "Not all people are dead."
Sorry, but with all this fine logical niggling going on, I couldn't help myself.
I don't recall the exact definition, but I believe 1 isn't prime.
This is just result of the common decimal notation. If we use hexadecimal notation, then all of this changes.
Personally, I find all these people talking about the new millenium in 2000 to be complete idiots. The new millenium doesn't start until the end of 2048.
I realy like a sig. I like that one. And you know what? I'd bet it is...
Yeah, but the leap month is simply referred to as "Adar II"
:-)
(as opposed to "Adar, the month", or "Adar II: The Wrath of Haman", or "Adar-3D, the search for forced humor"
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It said odd numbers though... I don't quite get that... that would be silly since 21/11/1999 (november 21, 1999) should be the next "odd" day... and even if it's primes... then 23/11/1999 (november 23, 1999) should be the next "prime" day. What's up with this... maybe I missed some significance here... I'm confused about what's so special with today!!
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Amen, I always hated how people seemed so amazed by this when it is simply a definition.
What a coincidence. Everyone always told me I was odd.
Happy 23rd to me! Yippee!
That's the number of days in the interval between
this odd day and the next one. Of course, it
falls out from the specification of an odd day
and arithmetic, (and a little luck with the
number of days this month) but it's still kind of
neat.
If that wasn't enough to make you feel warm and fuzzy:
TODAY IS A PRIME DAY, ALSO!
The last prime day for a while (until 2/2/2003) will be 11/29. That is phat.
And if that wasn't cool enough- 3/3/3119 is the next prime odd day. Wow....deep....warm and fuzzy.
-mark
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...who loved stuff like this. (He probably mentioned it in class today back home.) I just missed his anniversary, too -- he got married on November 18, 1988, or 111888. He even has that six-digit number engraved on the innerside of his wedding ring.
We won't have any of those combos around again until 11/11/2011 (111111) or 11/12/2022 (111222) if you want distinct digits.
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Ok, I realised that they actually meant ALL digits odd, as opposed to the actual numbers. That would then rule out 3/11/1999 (march 11, 1999) becuase it's actually 03/11/1999, and 0 is even... well sort of, that's actually mathematically debate-able, but I guess the idea is that all the digits are odd (and even if 0 isn't even, then neither is it odd).
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um, dude:
A)Slashdot is based in the US if i am not mistaken, and no one has said anything that suggests that it has a responsibility to be international (As nice as that would be).
B)Just reverse the numbers and have a happy 19/11/1999.
I agree with you about the date format, but it is not something to get bent out of shape about.
but the argument could be made that 1 is not an even or an odd number because an odd number must be only have two factors, 1 and itself. 1 is divisible only by itself, therefore, not odd.
.5.
You just described PRIME numbers. Odd numbers are #s not evenly (that is with no remainder)divisible by 2. 0 is even because 0/2 = 0. 1 is not because 1/2 =
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I guess I don't quite get it. Why won't 11/13/1999 be an odd day?
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How would we never see the next one when the Grand Unified Theory of Physics will be discovered in 2050?
1 is not prime because it is only divisible by one number, namely, itself.
:-)
0 is not prime because it is divisible by an infinite number of numbers, namely, any number other than itself.
Ho hum.
Time to go be as odd as possible.
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Hmm ... so the last odd timestamp of our lifetime would be: 19:59:59 11/19/1999
I'll be letting out a little whoop at that time to celebrate.
:-)
How the hell is it ironic?
Interesting, maybe, conincidental, maybe, but not ironic!
The next Odd day will be 1-1-3111 - which is well over a thousand years away, which we will never see
Walt Disney is scheduled to be taken off ice then. That should coincide with the opening of Disney Solar System on Pluto.
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Wouldn't the last prime timestamp be 23:59:59 19/11/1999?
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If you are looking at digits, then the next even year is 2/2/2222, since 0 is not odd nor even. But if you are looking at the whole year, then 2000 is even. But that means that 1/1/2001 would be the next odd day, since 2001 is odd. So I suspect that it is digits we are looking at. Therefore, enjoy today while you can, it's going to be a *LOOOONG* time until an even or odd day.
Ok, one more time for the math impaired. 0 = EVEN. Because it is divisible by 2 with no remainder. 0/2 = 0. Done, fini. It fits the definition of even.
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Why are int's not real? 12/6 = 2, so to is a real number right? two is certanly an integer....
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Short answer: Even.
Long answer:
You can say that any number divisible by 2 with no remainder is even. That makes zero even. You can also say any number divisible by 2 with a remainder of 1 is odd. That makes zero even.
If you want to talk binary, the Least Significant Bit determines even or oddness, zero being even, one being odd. This makes zero even. Of course, that's just another way of saying the same as above.
If you want to talk properties of even numbers, let's start with multiplication:
Ev * Ev = Ev
Ev * Od = Ev
Od * Od = Od
Zero times anything is zero. So,
0 * Ev = 0
0 * Od = 0
As you can see, zero must be even by this method.
Or how about addition?
Ev + Ev = Ev
Ev + Od = Od
Od + Od = Ev
Zero plus something = something. So,
0 + Ev = Ev
0 + Od = Od
Again, zero must be even.
Pretty much any way you slice it, zero is even.
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Why is 11-11-1999 not an odd day? I feel that I am missing something very fundamental here..
WHO THE HELL TAUGHT ALL YOU PEOPLE THAT 0 IS SOMEHOW A SPECIAL NON-EVEN NON-ODD NUMBER!?!?!?!?!?
0 is just like 2 or 6 or -4. When you divide by 2, you get an integer!
That's all "even" means! It is not very complicated!!!
0 is not special!!!
This isn't number theory, it is simple 2nd grade arithmetic!
*pant* *gasp* *wheeze*
No offence to you personally (offence maybe to the average second grade math teacher tho), but i had to get that off my chest.
Simple:
Wi-to-kay = 3 sylables
yir-to-thow-sand = 4 sylables
Y2K = 3 chars
Year 2000 = 9 chars
Y2K means a computer bug
Year 2000 means a year or a computer bug or a host of other things
% man cron | grep "day of the week"
day of the week (0-6 with 0=Sunday).
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"prime is a number that is divisible only by two numbers, 1 and the number itself."
Isn't 1 prime though...it is devisible by 1 and the number itself (1). These just happen to be the same number. According to Mirriam Webster, though:
"any integer other than 0 or ± 1 that is not divisible without remainder by any other integers except ± 1 and ± the integer itself"
1 would be prime unless they made the special provision so that by definition it isn't.
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Except for your personal prime/odd confusion and understaing of the number of stupid wrong things that have been repeated ad nausueum, "Exactly!"
http://www.treasure-troves.com/ math/EvenNumber.html is a good math dictionary and agrees that zero is even.
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ZERO IS EVEN!!! GO ASK ANY PRIMARY SCHOOL TEACHER!!!
0/2 = 0, 0 is an integer, therefore 0 is even!
ZERO IS A NUMBER!!! WHO THE HELL TOLD YOU THAT ZERO ISNT A NUMBER?
Zero is the number before 1 and after -1. It is the NUMBER that is the additive identity. It is the NUMBER that when multiplied by another number makes itself. It is the NUMBER that when raised to any power other than itself, equals itself. It is the NUMBER that when any other number is raised to its power, equals 1. It is the NUMBER whose angle signifies the positive x direction. It is the NUMBER that is arbitrarily chosen to be the value of potential energy at infinity for a point charge, and works EXACTLY the same as if you picked any other number!
Please do not run around slashdot disscusions talking about things you do not understand, like basic math.
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If you write the date in British format (as most countries do), 19/11/1999, then 19111999 is prime as well!
When you say a statement is wrong, you imply that there's a correct one, that there is some authoritative basis on which you can say "It's wrong." Saying "A new millenium begins on 1 Januiary 2000" is not not like saying "Carbon's atomic number is 42." While there is an obvious physical basis for days and years, there is no physical basis for centuries and millenia. (Except for the fact that we have ten digits on our hands.) Calendars are a matter of human consensus - you have to look to a human authority.
I'm not aware of any legal authority that states when the millenium begins.It would be perfectly legal and reasonable for Congress to legislate that centuries begin on January 1, xx00. The 250+ million people in this country would then abide by that convention. If you think that's a silly example, then I'd ask you how many people would have to agree on a calendar before it became "right". There have been many peoples through out history who observed different calendars, and there are numerous extant calendars now. So, for example, would you say that Jews who observe the Jewish calendar wrong to believe that the third millenium won't begin on 1 January 2001? Why or why not?
I'll grant that according to the commonly accepted calendar in the US and most of the Western world, the 3rd millenium begins on 1 January 2001. But I've got to ask, "Third millenium since when?" Not the birth of Jesus of Nazareth; the date and year of his birth are impossible to specify without supernatural knowledge. The calendar itself was adopted hundreds of years after 0001. It's been changed a number of times - you'd be very hard pressed to say how many years and days it's been since, say, November 19, 500. There are whole strings of years and days that have been skipped or never observed.
So if a whole group of people choose to believe that a new millenium begins on 1 January 2000, just party with them, and be sure to invite them to your party on 1 January 2001. Personally, I will continue to believe that every day begins a new millenium, and I'll party accordingly.
The original poster might have been confusing even/odd with prime/composite. While 0 is even, it is neither prime nor composite (this holds true for 1 too, except it's odd).
Depending on how you choose to format your dates, (I prefer 1999.11.19 with all digits filled) you could contest that the next odd day will be 3111.11.11 instead of 3111.01.01. But that's quibbling over something that I'll probably not really care about when the time rolls around.
10-28-1888
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1 is not an even number. All the *digits* have to be even. The last even day was not in 1888, but rather 888.
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There is a physical basis for the atomic number. It's the number of protons in the nucleus. Your analogy would be better served by atomic weight, which is a truly arbitrary number.
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Why is this article under "It's Funny."?
Is it supposed to be a parity?
That was the day I was born (an odd occurance that).. :-) Perhaps not as odd as the appearance of the Devon Rex cat, though.
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If I had written: ... dang no bullets.
Give me a minute
Then it would have been more obvious. I don't know if it would have been any funnier though.
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But, there was no year 1 on the calender ether, or 2 for that matter. Infact we didn't start using the xian calender untill ether the 400's or the 1400s (I'm not exactly sure). there's no reason why you cant' say that the year that was 1 BC was the first year, Jesus wasn't born in 1AD anyway!
People don't give a fuck about the year 2001, they care about 2000.
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1 is not an even didgit, ALL of the didgits must be even for it to be an 'even' day.
so nothing from 1000-1999 can be an even day.
And nothing from 2000-2999 can be an odd day.
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The last odd timestamp will be:
;-)
19:59:59 19-11-1999
I am 2h, 59m, 9s away from that
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Oops. I forgot to post the definition of prime.
A prime number is a number that is divisible by exactly two numbers. One, and itself.
1 is only divisible by one number.
Anyway, the other respondant is correct. One is not prime because it is defined as not prime for convienence.
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Ok, to Clarify this, TODAY IS THE *LAST* Odd day until 3111. However the 17th, 15th,13th, and 11th of this month were ALSO odd days. But this is the LAST one.
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No... 12 is the weight of carbon-12, which is "arbirarily" defined. This is different from the number of protons and neutrons, which "coincidentally" is also 12. An atoms weight is not determined only by the number of nucleons, because the binding energy also plays a factor. If the weight of C-12 was defined as 1 or 42 everything would work out the same.
the 2 and the zero's
I just got this in my mailbox like 10 minutes ago from my coworker...and it shows up on slashdot...
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I think their year just turned to 5760, so in 11 years it will be 5771.
George
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On the last Odd Day for the next 1000+ years, I get the feeling I can try abusing the office NT machine to see if it doesn't crash.
Of course if/when it does, I'll start planning for 2/2/2000 as my "Get Even" day.
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You're wrong.
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Give me a minute....
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Good one! But like I said, it was just a random sampling to demonstrate the point. And despite the objection in this same heirarchy by osu-neko, even if it's not technically accurate (I have no idea whether he pulled this figure out of his navel, or if it's right on), the number is still one that sticks anytime I see that particular cart ... not that I'm obsessed with grovery carts, they just make a handy example of how we assign arbitrary connections. Just how brains work, I say.
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