To quote the AC: "Call of duty 3 has sold 1 million on 360, 600 thousand on PS2, 250 thousand on Wii, and 200 thousand on PS3. Madden 07 has sold 3.2 million on PS2, 1.2 million on 360, 350 thousand on PS3, and 300 thousand on Wii."
Break down those numbers based on the number of consoles sold and you'll see some more interesting numbers. Besides, you can't base everything off of the sale of certain games when certain consoles (e.g. the Wii) haven't even met market demand. There's no telling how many people haven't bought a Wii that would buy Madden 07. Moreover, Madden 07 is one of the few games that are worth buying right now for the PS3. Until the market is saturated with games and consoles, many of these figures are meaningless.
While it's true that Nintendo provides excellent games for their own console that appeal directly to their fanbase, it also is true that if third parties produced better games and ports of games for the Wii (than they did with the Gamecube) they would sell more units. Games and consoles are mutually reinforcing items. Consoles sell games and games sell consoles. The beauty of the video game market.
The irony in this post is that he makes excuses for the PS3's minimal library, but ignores the fact that the Wii launched AFTER the PS3.
If you're going to make excuses that Sony's hardware will have better games coming, the logical inference would be that Nintendo has better games on the way as well.
Until MS can crack the Japanese market, the will be at a decisive disadvantage.
Sony has a good product, the question is whether it will fall in price enough, soon enough, to claim a significant market share. If Nintendo can capitalize on the Wii, they will certainly be able to finance their next console sooner than Sony, and will be able to match the graphics at a lowered price.
Also, in response to a thread above: it is true that games sell consoles, but it is also true that consoles sell games. You may be rich enough to buy a console for one game, but I personally buy the console that has the greatest number of interesting games. If Nintendo has a large install base, the third parties will be sure to capitalize.
Pray tell me, what am I a fanboy of?
Somebody really should ban this guy's IP. He's trying to create an altercation that really is unnecessary. If anything my initial post was commenting on the longevity and success of the PS2, while noting the failure (thus far) of the PS3 to duplicate or elipse it's predecessor.
Obviously Anonymous Coward is so upset that the PS3 isn't selling that his entire world is falling apart, leading him to depend on profanity to make him "one of the cool kids."
Calling me a "moron" and a "pathetic little shit" serves no end but to demonstrate your own inadequacy as a person. Why don't you think of some creative insults that actually have some meaning, considering you make a mockery of yourself by challenging my intelligence.
Another Sony-fanboy posting as an anon. coward.
Two things to point out here:
1) There have been reports of PS2 games not functioning correctly on the PS3. Give me a break, I not a poor little whiny rich kid who shelled out his parents money to buy an (under)priced blu-ray player.
2) Next gen developers will go where the consoles have sold. PS2 is now competing against teh 360, PS3, and Wii. Even the Wii's graphics are better than a PS2's. Devs aren't going to keep producing for the console with the smallest install base.
Have a nice day Coward.
Yeah, the biggest story is the differential between the 360 and the ps3. Sony can't be liking that the gulf between the ps3 their self-proclaimed "competitor" is getting even wider.
On a positive note, the PS3 has passed up the 3DO in sales (*thumbs up!*)
Another hidden story, from the article: "And the PS2 also continues to outperform the PS3; Sony's six-year-old system sold 299K units."
Yeah, I think it is very important to remember there are plenty of us out there (even gamers) who want a Wii, but simply are too busy with *real life* to fight for one. Lots of folks still want one, but are waiting for ready availability.
I can't wait to try some of the new games, but will simply have to wait until my opportunity.
Yep, sucks for Sony and M$. I've been holding out for a while now on buying a PS or 360... only game I'm looking for is GH2. However, now I guess I can just wait for the Wii release:)
others games existed before the computer, hence the reason you can talk about them at newsgroups but nowhere else:)
i come from a family of teachers... I hear plenty of reports of children spending their whole weekends gaming. Bad thing? Only for when they get old enough to start dating...
I can allege to personally seeing PS3s sitting on shelves at the Target by Lancaster Mall in Salem, OR, the K-Mart off Aurora Ave in North Seattle, and Targets by the South Hill Mall and near Lakewood in Tacoma, WA. I've also seen PS3's on sale at EB games in several malls.
Still yet to find a Wii on a shelf, or a Wiimote/Chuck. I've seen the CC though.
Every store (that carries such merchandise) that I have been to in the last week in Oregon and Washington has had at least three PS3s sitting on the shelf and no Wiis.
Good to see Sony is getting at least one good game on their machine. I loved playing Gauntlet 2 back when I was 6 with my brother.. We got up to around level 200 before we realized the game never ended. Pissed us off royally.
Too bad I won't be buying a PS3. At least I can dig up the old NES sometime and play it;p
Not to mention, when the Playstation was launched, it was cheaper than the 3D0, Jaguar, etc. Nobody was stupid enough to buy a $600+ console then, and nobody would be dumb enough to market another console at that inflated price again.
are 360s starting to look more and more like computers, following the computer business model? consistent hardware upgrades, new versions, accessories, etc. etc.? Why buy a 360 when you can get high end gaming computer and do more things with your purchase?
Gotta back this up. In Seattle I went to two stores (Target and Kmart) at two different times on two different days and found ps3s sitting on the shelves. I've yet to see a Wii though:(
Guess Sony is just outproducing the amazingly high demand, huh S-fanboys?
Probably because die-hard nintendo fans like myself are too poor to buy the console at the minute or too busy to wait in lines or go searching for one.
I plan to get one by next summer personally, and I expect there are plenty of others like me.
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9 year olds don't understand the concept of value either. Moreover, they just want to buy the console they think the older kids would like.
Pretty sure the kids around here are enjoying their Wiis right now, no pun intended.
To quote the AC:
"Call of duty 3 has sold 1 million on 360, 600 thousand on PS2, 250 thousand on Wii, and 200 thousand on PS3. Madden 07 has sold 3.2 million on PS2, 1.2 million on 360, 350 thousand on PS3, and 300 thousand on Wii."
Break down those numbers based on the number of consoles sold and you'll see some more interesting numbers. Besides, you can't base everything off of the sale of certain games when certain consoles (e.g. the Wii) haven't even met market demand. There's no telling how many people haven't bought a Wii that would buy Madden 07. Moreover, Madden 07 is one of the few games that are worth buying right now for the PS3. Until the market is saturated with games and consoles, many of these figures are meaningless.
While it's true that Nintendo provides excellent games for their own console that appeal directly to their fanbase, it also is true that if third parties produced better games and ports of games for the Wii (than they did with the Gamecube) they would sell more units. Games and consoles are mutually reinforcing items. Consoles sell games and games sell consoles. The beauty of the video game market.
The irony in this post is that he makes excuses for the PS3's minimal library, but ignores the fact that the Wii launched AFTER the PS3.
If you're going to make excuses that Sony's hardware will have better games coming, the logical inference would be that Nintendo has better games on the way as well.
Until MS can crack the Japanese market, the will be at a decisive disadvantage.
Sony has a good product, the question is whether it will fall in price enough, soon enough, to claim a significant market share. If Nintendo can capitalize on the Wii, they will certainly be able to finance their next console sooner than Sony, and will be able to match the graphics at a lowered price.
Also, in response to a thread above: it is true that games sell consoles, but it is also true that consoles sell games. You may be rich enough to buy a console for one game, but I personally buy the console that has the greatest number of interesting games. If Nintendo has a large install base, the third parties will be sure to capitalize.
Pray tell me, what am I a fanboy of? Somebody really should ban this guy's IP. He's trying to create an altercation that really is unnecessary. If anything my initial post was commenting on the longevity and success of the PS2, while noting the failure (thus far) of the PS3 to duplicate or elipse it's predecessor. Obviously Anonymous Coward is so upset that the PS3 isn't selling that his entire world is falling apart, leading him to depend on profanity to make him "one of the cool kids." Calling me a "moron" and a "pathetic little shit" serves no end but to demonstrate your own inadequacy as a person. Why don't you think of some creative insults that actually have some meaning, considering you make a mockery of yourself by challenging my intelligence.
Another Sony-fanboy posting as an anon. coward. Two things to point out here: 1) There have been reports of PS2 games not functioning correctly on the PS3. Give me a break, I not a poor little whiny rich kid who shelled out his parents money to buy an (under)priced blu-ray player. 2) Next gen developers will go where the consoles have sold. PS2 is now competing against teh 360, PS3, and Wii. Even the Wii's graphics are better than a PS2's. Devs aren't going to keep producing for the console with the smallest install base. Have a nice day Coward.
Yeah, the biggest story is the differential between the 360 and the ps3. Sony can't be liking that the gulf between the ps3 their self-proclaimed "competitor" is getting even wider.
On a positive note, the PS3 has passed up the 3DO in sales (*thumbs up!*)
Another hidden story, from the article:
"And the PS2 also continues to outperform the PS3; Sony's six-year-old system sold 299K units."
Yeah, I think it is very important to remember there are plenty of us out there (even gamers) who want a Wii, but simply are too busy with *real life* to fight for one. Lots of folks still want one, but are waiting for ready availability.
I can't wait to try some of the new games, but will simply have to wait until my opportunity.
Yep, sucks for Sony and M$. I've been holding out for a while now on buying a PS or 360... only game I'm looking for is GH2. However, now I guess I can just wait for the Wii release :)
One should think about who posts on Wikipedia before you proffer it's information as "proof." Though I admit wikipedia is a good substitute for crack.
You forget slingo and snood
You missed out.. The next two worlds (especially inside the technodrome) were insanely hard (but fun).
I only beat the original 1 or 2 times in my life though... Very very fun.
others games existed before the computer, hence the reason you can talk about them at newsgroups but nowhere else :)
i come from a family of teachers... I hear plenty of reports of children spending their whole weekends gaming. Bad thing? Only for when they get old enough to start dating...
i too wish to buy a wii, but likely won't have the opportunity until next summer. that's fine though, I'm too busy with school anyway :)
I can allege to personally seeing PS3s sitting on shelves at the Target by Lancaster Mall in Salem, OR, the K-Mart off Aurora Ave in North Seattle, and Targets by the South Hill Mall and near Lakewood in Tacoma, WA. I've also seen PS3's on sale at EB games in several malls. Still yet to find a Wii on a shelf, or a Wiimote/Chuck. I've seen the CC though.
Every store (that carries such merchandise) that I have been to in the last week in Oregon and Washington has had at least three PS3s sitting on the shelf and no Wiis.
Ashton Kutcher punked Ken Kutaragi
joystiq is saying the Wiimote didn't win either, but that the D-pad was the lauded innovation? What about the thumb-stick?
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http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/09/oops-sony-decla
Scientific progress goes *boink!*
Good to see Sony is getting at least one good game on their machine. I loved playing Gauntlet 2 back when I was 6 with my brother.. We got up to around level 200 before we realized the game never ended. Pissed us off royally.
;p
Too bad I won't be buying a PS3. At least I can dig up the old NES sometime and play it
Green Elf, your life force is running out!
Not to mention, when the Playstation was launched, it was cheaper than the 3D0, Jaguar, etc. Nobody was stupid enough to buy a $600+ console then, and nobody would be dumb enough to market another console at that inflated price again.
Wait a second..... oh yeah...
are 360s starting to look more and more like computers, following the computer business model? consistent hardware upgrades, new versions, accessories, etc. etc.? Why buy a 360 when you can get high end gaming computer and do more things with your purchase?
Gotta back this up. In Seattle I went to two stores (Target and Kmart) at two different times on two different days and found ps3s sitting on the shelves. I've yet to see a Wii though :(
Guess Sony is just outproducing the amazingly high demand, huh S-fanboys?
E4RL?
great, naming conventions after old men "gamers"
Probably because die-hard nintendo fans like myself are too poor to buy the console at the minute or too busy to wait in lines or go searching for one. I plan to get one by next summer personally, and I expect there are plenty of others like me.
They are going to settle. Only 2% of filed suits actually make it to trial.