Good to know, thank you! I think I'll still invest in a little extra cooling down the road for overclocking (especially if/when I decide to Crossfire), but considering how far over my original budget I've gone, if I can hold out on pushing my system for a while to save some money, I think I'll do just that.
The main thing is that I'm hoping to run games off of these, so I need something with at least a bit of power- I know most of the cheaper ones out I can handle most anything that's put out these days, but I'm hoping to future-proof myself a little, or rather as much as is possible in my budget, since I'm getting this instead of any next-gen consoles. AMD's price is very enticing, and the out of the box clock speeds look pretty impressive, but it seems like the major selling point of this CPU over Intel, aside from price, is graphics better than Intel's integrated.
But in the end... I basically agree with your last paragraph. It's all a pissing contest and either one will probably work just fine for me, but given my current lack of any good D&D campaigns, I'm jonesing for a bit of min-maxing. At this point I could probably decide with a coin toss and still be perfectly content. Either way, thanks for your input! It's given me plenty to consider.
Actually one of the comments I read about the Ivy Bridge i5 I was looking at mentioned how the fan was less than reliable, which is one of the reasons I'm quite glad these came out when they did, since I'd love to read the reviews without (immediately) spending more on cooling.
You never had (cpu related) cooling problems with your intel machines? That would be quite helpful to know, actually!
Within about a month or so I'll be building a PC- initially when I started the process of selecting parts I was happy to go with an i5 from the last series, but now AMD and Intel both release their new guns...
I'm not sure which to go with any more- still leaning towards Intel since I'll be getting a separate graphics card and I like their raw power, but at the same time, it's hard to beat the price on AMD.
Good thing I've still got a month to mull it over.
Good point- I can't say for sure how this works, I just really like the idea. I mean, I still keep all my old consoles around, but for convenience sake this would be nice. I'll have to research it when I'm not at work.
I know the meanings of all the words you're saying but I'm having a difficult time actually understanding what you're talking about in the voting context. Please elaborate.
It doesn't- but the Wii U emulates the wii, which emulated the gamecube, and if the software is there and you're loading it all from a USB drive, it might be possible.
I'd love to try this out, but lack the console. I fully intend to get it... once there are games I'm interested in playing, just like every other console I've ever purchased.
Best I can do for you is about.5 of a European Swallow, unladen, and.435 of a laden swallow. If you wanted the data for an African Swallow, well, you're just SOL.
I'm not sure how relevant that is. The top comment on that link shows that the PS2 outsold the PS3 for quite a while immediately after the PS3 was released, and the PS3 didn't die.
My guess is that people keep buying the old generation console until there are enough major games that only run on the new one. There aren't that many major titles for the Wii-U yet, so I wouldn't say its sales are too surprising.
Nintendo's been like this for a while now, for most of their launches- short on good launch titles, but picking up steam usually within a year of release. You're right in comparing it to the 3DS, which now has too many games for me to afford, compared to when I first bought it, and only one game seemed even remotely interesting.
You list a lot of good games required- Mario Kart will undoubtedly be included, SSB will not only be included but cross-compatible with the 3DS version I hear, F-Zero's in the works, we're due for Metroid, and there are several studios interested in bringing back Starfox. Right now it's pretty empty, but give it some time and we'll see what Nintendo can do.
And if you haven't already, for the love of all that is holy, pick up Fire Emblem Awakening. Easily the best in the series with fantastic writing, blew me away with just how good it was.
It may be a fun little time waster like spinning the globe on the Wii Weather Channel, but this is far from a killer app.
That aside... the Wii U's far from dead. If anything I'd say it hasn't even lived yet. What it needs are games, first party, be they classic IPs or new ones. It's a game console, guys. Give us some good games and you can take all my money.
This is probably now my favorite Slashdot interview. Nothing to do with tech, really, but it was an outright entertaining read.
It also helps to put into perspective some of my failed relationships, given that none of them tried to kill me (well, not quite as blatantly, anyway.)
It's a little difficult to provide multiple citations when browsing and posting from a cell phone, but you're correct in that I lacked citation. I'm interested in how you can demonstrate point C, considering neither of us has posted any citations.
Regardless... I don't necessarily agree with either side here. I think WB's in the wrong for using this without proper licensing, but most of the trademarks I know are associated with a brand- and outside of this thread I've never seen this particular trademark linked back to its creator/brand. It's just... Nyancat.
no one thought it even remotely strange that crewmen were bringing their families aboard battleships.
I'm with you on every point but this one- there wasn't an actual Battleship in the Federation UNTIL DS9. The rest of the fleet, and most of the ships shown in the show, were vessels of discovery- for exploration, and science. They did have weapons and defensive systems of course, but it was quite rare that they'd be used pre-emptively against anyone but Borg (excluding of course during war time from DS9 and onwards.)
Reminds me of the Onion article about the multiverse of possibilities from the US Election results. "What if your fighting machines break?"
Dont forget to ask "What if your battleships get trapped under a force field?"
And finish up with "What if you need to throw a ring away really bad, like *really* bad, but the ring itself doesn't want to be and can control YOU???"
So many irrelevant questions, so much time to waste...
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Good to know, thank you! I think I'll still invest in a little extra cooling down the road for overclocking (especially if/when I decide to Crossfire), but considering how far over my original budget I've gone, if I can hold out on pushing my system for a while to save some money, I think I'll do just that.
+1 Helpful, good sir.
The main thing is that I'm hoping to run games off of these, so I need something with at least a bit of power- I know most of the cheaper ones out I can handle most anything that's put out these days, but I'm hoping to future-proof myself a little, or rather as much as is possible in my budget, since I'm getting this instead of any next-gen consoles. AMD's price is very enticing, and the out of the box clock speeds look pretty impressive, but it seems like the major selling point of this CPU over Intel, aside from price, is graphics better than Intel's integrated.
But in the end... I basically agree with your last paragraph. It's all a pissing contest and either one will probably work just fine for me, but given my current lack of any good D&D campaigns, I'm jonesing for a bit of min-maxing. At this point I could probably decide with a coin toss and still be perfectly content. Either way, thanks for your input! It's given me plenty to consider.
Actually one of the comments I read about the Ivy Bridge i5 I was looking at mentioned how the fan was less than reliable, which is one of the reasons I'm quite glad these came out when they did, since I'd love to read the reviews without (immediately) spending more on cooling.
You never had (cpu related) cooling problems with your intel machines? That would be quite helpful to know, actually!
Within about a month or so I'll be building a PC- initially when I started the process of selecting parts I was happy to go with an i5 from the last series, but now AMD and Intel both release their new guns...
I'm not sure which to go with any more- still leaning towards Intel since I'll be getting a separate graphics card and I like their raw power, but at the same time, it's hard to beat the price on AMD.
Good thing I've still got a month to mull it over.
Good point- I can't say for sure how this works, I just really like the idea. I mean, I still keep all my old consoles around, but for convenience sake this would be nice. I'll have to research it when I'm not at work.
I know the meanings of all the words you're saying but I'm having a difficult time actually understanding what you're talking about in the voting context. Please elaborate.
It doesn't- but the Wii U emulates the wii, which emulated the gamecube, and if the software is there and you're loading it all from a USB drive, it might be possible.
I'd love to try this out, but lack the console. I fully intend to get it... once there are games I'm interested in playing, just like every other console I've ever purchased.
Best I can do for you is about .5 of a European Swallow, unladen, and .435 of a laden swallow. If you wanted the data for an African Swallow, well, you're just SOL.
Even the original Wii is outselling it.
I'm not sure how relevant that is. The top comment on that link shows that the PS2 outsold the PS3 for quite a while immediately after the PS3 was released, and the PS3 didn't die.
My guess is that people keep buying the old generation console until there are enough major games that only run on the new one. There aren't that many major titles for the Wii-U yet, so I wouldn't say its sales are too surprising.
Quoted to reiterate what AC said.
Nintendo's been like this for a while now, for most of their launches- short on good launch titles, but picking up steam usually within a year of release. You're right in comparing it to the 3DS, which now has too many games for me to afford, compared to when I first bought it, and only one game seemed even remotely interesting.
You list a lot of good games required- Mario Kart will undoubtedly be included, SSB will not only be included but cross-compatible with the 3DS version I hear, F-Zero's in the works, we're due for Metroid, and there are several studios interested in bringing back Starfox. Right now it's pretty empty, but give it some time and we'll see what Nintendo can do.
And if you haven't already, for the love of all that is holy, pick up Fire Emblem Awakening. Easily the best in the series with fantastic writing, blew me away with just how good it was.
I don't know about you, but I find it very hard to have an "immersive" experience on something the size of a phone.
It may be a fun little time waster like spinning the globe on the Wii Weather Channel, but this is far from a killer app.
That aside... the Wii U's far from dead. If anything I'd say it hasn't even lived yet. What it needs are games, first party, be they classic IPs or new ones. It's a game console, guys. Give us some good games and you can take all my money.
Man uses skill to pay for education which furthers his knowledge in his desired field.
I'm not sure I see the problem.
You're that guy who's using 77 TB of data, aren't you?!
"Things are only impossible until they're not." -Captain Jean Luc Picard
I believe if you take an alternate path somewhere in the process, in winter, the gorillas freeze.
Most of what you have said is demonstrably false.
So... go ahead and demonstrate it- or would it be too much work for YOU to google, or experiment on yourself rigorously?
It always has seemed like my movements start as soon as I'm outside, especially if I can't get back in any time soon.
Thanks for the share- if I hadn't posted you'd get modded up for it!
Only if she doesn't still float- I could still potentially build a bridge out of her.
When your work witch is over 150 years old, you'll definitely want an overhaul.
Or retirement.
This is probably now my favorite Slashdot interview. Nothing to do with tech, really, but it was an outright entertaining read. It also helps to put into perspective some of my failed relationships, given that none of them tried to kill me (well, not quite as blatantly, anyway.)
It's a little difficult to provide multiple citations when browsing and posting from a cell phone, but you're correct in that I lacked citation. I'm interested in how you can demonstrate point C, considering neither of us has posted any citations.
Regardless... I don't necessarily agree with either side here. I think WB's in the wrong for using this without proper licensing, but most of the trademarks I know are associated with a brand- and outside of this thread I've never seen this particular trademark linked back to its creator/brand. It's just... Nyancat.
DS9 was the best ST series
no one thought it even remotely strange that crewmen were bringing their families aboard battleships.
I'm with you on every point but this one- there wasn't an actual Battleship in the Federation UNTIL DS9. The rest of the fleet, and most of the ships shown in the show, were vessels of discovery- for exploration, and science. They did have weapons and defensive systems of course, but it was quite rare that they'd be used pre-emptively against anyone but Borg (excluding of course during war time from DS9 and onwards.)
Otherwise, you're right on all counts.
Reminds me of the Onion article about the multiverse of possibilities from the US Election results. "What if your fighting machines break?"
Dont forget to ask "What if your battleships get trapped under a force field?"
And finish up with "What if you need to throw a ring away really bad, like *really* bad, but the ring itself doesn't want to be and can control YOU???"
So many irrelevant questions, so much time to waste...
In this order... Wizard, Wizard, Hobbits.
Any more questions?