Agreed. But because it requires individual sacrifice for the greater good, and because people are (individually) selfish, it has to be mandatory via an act of law.
This isn't something that "the rest of the world" needs to do - if it's something that you should do if it's something that you feel strongly about (and everyone else that feels similarly).
It is something the rest of the world (or at least the country) needs to go along with, if it's going to make a difference. I could quit buying stuff from China, but if nobody else does, then it doesn't really matter, does it?
When people/companies/countries trade, then both of the trading partners are better off. Otherwise they wouldn't trade...
Trade is generally, though not always, good for society as a whole. It is always good for the traders. It is often not good for the labors, especially when one partner in the trade uses unethical labor practices to reduce prices.
The labourers are traders too, when I go to work I trade my time and expertise for money, I wouldn't make this trade if it wasn't in my best interest. What makes these Chinese labourers any different? Why am I qualified to make that trade but you feel the need to remove that option from them for their own good?
Let's do a prison scenario:
Prisoner A offers to make Prisoner B his bitch. A will protect B from getting raped by the rest of the inmates. In return, B will give his ass freely to A anytime he wants it.
Was this a valid trade? Maybe. But no matter whether Prisoner B takes the deal or not, he's going to get fucked.
Clearly Prisoner B is in a pretty bad position. If A's offer isn't extortion (ie take the offer or I'll arrange rapes) than it is a valid trade and B could be better off taking the deal.
Obviously it would be best if B wasn't getting raped at all, but if there's no one offering B a deal that doesn't involve rape than I don't think you're doing B any favours by prohibiting him from making a deal that involves less rape.
Agreed, but the implicit point in GP was that the problem is that Prisoner B shouldn't be forced to choose between those two options. A third option, not getting raped, should be available to him. In much the same way, Laborers who are forced to either starve or work 100 hours a week are not being given a real choice, either. The reason they are made to choose between such dismal fates is because a few very rich and/or powerful people control their choices (the very thing communism is supposed to prevent, ironically).
would help Chinese workers because they wouldn't have to endure this kind of shit,
Can't endure a shitty job if you're begging on the street, resorting to prostitution, or just plain starving.
But, at least they aren't working in a sweatshop. Liberals once again posit a compassionate solution.
And conservatives posit a straw man argument. You act as if there's nothing to do for a living in China except work in a sweat shop manufacturing goods headed toward the US. They could be farmers, or own fruit stands, or *gasp* manufacture products for use by Chinese consumers!
When people/companies/countries trade, then both of the trading partners are better off. Otherwise they wouldn't trade...
Trade is generally, though not always, good for society as a whole. It is always good for the traders. It is often not good for the labors, especially when one partner in the trade uses unethical labor practices to reduce prices.
The labourers are traders too, when I go to work I trade my time and expertise for money, I wouldn't make this trade if it wasn't in my best interest. What makes these Chinese labourers any different? Why am I qualified to make that trade but you feel the need to remove that option from them for their own good?
Let's do a prison scenario:
Prisoner A offers to make Prisoner B his bitch. A will protect B from getting raped by the rest of the inmates. In return, B will give his ass freely to A anytime he wants it.
Was this a valid trade? Maybe. But no matter whether Prisoner B takes the deal or not, he's going to get fucked.
Okay, so here's the thing.. The rest of the world needs to refuse to do any sort of business with China until business practices are brought in line with at least a minimal respect for human life. It would help Chinese workers because they wouldn't have to endure this kind of shit, and it would help the developed world because our factories wouldn't have to try to compete with stuff produced in this way.
How is PHP/MySQL so insecure? I write asp.net for a living (I'd rather write in python or C, but such is life), and I find it hard to imagine where these pages are so vulnerable. Is PHP vulnerable to buffer overflows the way old C code is? Does MySQL not support parameterized queries? If that's not the case, then what kind of attacks are people using to hack these sites?
When reading a review about a game, I want to know what the game is about, in a general sense. I don't need specific details, but I do want somebody to tell me if the end game isn't worth my time. Its certainly a grey area when deciding how much info is too much, but movie critics have been doing it for years.
Yet another instance of the prisoner's dilemma.. We're each better off individually to buy the cheapest thing possible regardless of where it comes from, but as a society we'd be better off to support only businesses that contribute back to our economy (i.e. American businesses).
Protectionism, in the forms of high taxes and tariffs, has given many European countries a very comfortable lifestyle. Why not the same for us?
I've worked with a few H1-B's, and that's generally the impression I got. We had one guy who had a CS Masters from some Indian university, but after 6 months of trying, he still couldn't write a simple text processing app. At another job, we had hired a Crystal Reports 'expert' to create some reports that none of the staff had time for. For a couple of days the guy would ask how to make the numbers round down, rather than just rounding off. On the second day I took pity on him and showed him the joys of the Floor function. I had never programmed anything in CR, but I knew that there had to be a floor operator in there somewhere.
I'm sure there are good Indian programmers. I'm also relatively certain that most of them are here on student visas, working on their grad school degrees. Those not in school most likely expect the same level of pay as their American counterparts. Never forget that you get what you pay for.
It's true, the reception is noticeably worse with DTV. The issues are much more annoying, as it will cut in and cut out, rather than having a relatively linear level of quality based on how good your signal is. I have a nice HDTV, but I'm dreading the switch, as I won't be able to get the channels that don't have a clear enough signal for DTV.
Which is basically redundant considering the market's assessment of an organization's value at any given point in time is mankind's most influential determinant of its future value. Your first post was fine as is.
Academia usually pushes students into smaller and smaller areas of specialization.. Sounds like this guy has actually managed to be a generalist (assuming his degrees aren't all in roughly the same subject)
Well, I personally thought autorun was stupid when they introduced it in the mid 90s, but I can understand the reasoning for it.
Back then, it was specifically added to make it easier for people to install software simply by inserting a disk and pressing a button. Of course, back then this mainly applied only to optical media, since floppies were on their way out and USB hadn't made an impact at the time. Transferring via CDRs was of course possible, but would have required a lot more effort on the virus writer's part since they would have to write specific exploits for each major CD burning software package.
Now though, with real R/W media back in the picture, the flaw looks more like a glaring security hole than it did 13 years ago.
it wasn't hunt and peck.. he never looked away from the screen. I had to see his scores on the typing program to believe it, but he managed it. I don't know if he could type that fast in real world situations, but he could do it in front of Mavis Beacon
i knew a guy in high school who could do 120 wpm on qwerty.....using only 2 fingers. Instead of learning to type like the rest of us he just used his index fingers. I don't know what he's doing now, but I bet he has carpal tunnel syndrome..
Why would that be no longer effective? If the cloak reroutes 90% of the light, then you're left with 10% opacity, right? Sure, something that translucent would be very difficult to see, especially from a distance.
The Predator still got his ass shot up good with that hand-held vulcan gun, because the soldier saw the 10% of light that he couldn't cloak.
Yes, but if you look at it from a D&D point of view, you get a 90% miss chance, which is a game-breaking advantage.
Agreed. But because it requires individual sacrifice for the greater good, and because people are (individually) selfish, it has to be mandatory via an act of law.
OK, off you go, then.
This isn't something that "the rest of the world" needs to do - if it's something that you should do if it's something that you feel strongly about (and everyone else that feels similarly).
It is something the rest of the world (or at least the country) needs to go along with, if it's going to make a difference. I could quit buying stuff from China, but if nobody else does, then it doesn't really matter, does it?
When people/companies/countries trade, then both of the trading partners are better off. Otherwise they wouldn't trade...
Trade is generally, though not always, good for society as a whole. It is always good for the traders. It is often not good for the labors, especially when one partner in the trade uses unethical labor practices to reduce prices.
The labourers are traders too, when I go to work I trade my time and expertise for money, I wouldn't make this trade if it wasn't in my best interest. What makes these Chinese labourers any different? Why am I qualified to make that trade but you feel the need to remove that option from them for their own good?
Let's do a prison scenario:
Prisoner A offers to make Prisoner B his bitch. A will protect B from getting raped by the rest of the inmates. In return, B will give his ass freely to A anytime he wants it.
Was this a valid trade? Maybe. But no matter whether Prisoner B takes the deal or not, he's going to get fucked.
Clearly Prisoner B is in a pretty bad position. If A's offer isn't extortion (ie take the offer or I'll arrange rapes) than it is a valid trade and B could be better off taking the deal.
Obviously it would be best if B wasn't getting raped at all, but if there's no one offering B a deal that doesn't involve rape than I don't think you're doing B any favours by prohibiting him from making a deal that involves less rape.
Agreed, but the implicit point in GP was that the problem is that Prisoner B shouldn't be forced to choose between those two options. A third option, not getting raped, should be available to him. In much the same way, Laborers who are forced to either starve or work 100 hours a week are not being given a real choice, either. The reason they are made to choose between such dismal fates is because a few very rich and/or powerful people control their choices (the very thing communism is supposed to prevent, ironically).
would help Chinese workers because they wouldn't have to endure this kind of shit,
Can't endure a shitty job if you're begging on the street, resorting to prostitution, or just plain starving.
But, at least they aren't working in a sweatshop. Liberals once again posit a compassionate solution.
And conservatives posit a straw man argument. You act as if there's nothing to do for a living in China except work in a sweat shop manufacturing goods headed toward the US. They could be farmers, or own fruit stands, or *gasp* manufacture products for use by Chinese consumers!
When people/companies/countries trade, then both of the trading partners are better off. Otherwise they wouldn't trade...
Trade is generally, though not always, good for society as a whole. It is always good for the traders. It is often not good for the labors, especially when one partner in the trade uses unethical labor practices to reduce prices.
The labourers are traders too, when I go to work I trade my time and expertise for money, I wouldn't make this trade if it wasn't in my best interest. What makes these Chinese labourers any different? Why am I qualified to make that trade but you feel the need to remove that option from them for their own good?
Let's do a prison scenario:
Prisoner A offers to make Prisoner B his bitch. A will protect B from getting raped by the rest of the inmates. In return, B will give his ass freely to A anytime he wants it.
Was this a valid trade? Maybe. But no matter whether Prisoner B takes the deal or not, he's going to get fucked.
Okay, so here's the thing.. The rest of the world needs to refuse to do any sort of business with China until business practices are brought in line with at least a minimal respect for human life. It would help Chinese workers because they wouldn't have to endure this kind of shit, and it would help the developed world because our factories wouldn't have to try to compete with stuff produced in this way.
How is PHP/MySQL so insecure? I write asp.net for a living (I'd rather write in python or C, but such is life), and I find it hard to imagine where these pages are so vulnerable. Is PHP vulnerable to buffer overflows the way old C code is? Does MySQL not support parameterized queries? If that's not the case, then what kind of attacks are people using to hack these sites?
no barriers to each other. huge barriers to everyone else
When reading a review about a game, I want to know what the game is about, in a general sense. I don't need specific details, but I do want somebody to tell me if the end game isn't worth my time. Its certainly a grey area when deciding how much info is too much, but movie critics have been doing it for years.
again, individual vs. society. the exporters and importers do not outweigh the rest of society
Or better yet, tax the shit out of them
Yet another instance of the prisoner's dilemma.. We're each better off individually to buy the cheapest thing possible regardless of where it comes from, but as a society we'd be better off to support only businesses that contribute back to our economy (i.e. American businesses).
Protectionism, in the forms of high taxes and tariffs, has given many European countries a very comfortable lifestyle. Why not the same for us?
I learned to read playing Dragon Warrior on NES. For years the teachers would tell me not to use "thee" and "thou".
I've worked with a few H1-B's, and that's generally the impression I got. We had one guy who had a CS Masters from some Indian university, but after 6 months of trying, he still couldn't write a simple text processing app. At another job, we had hired a Crystal Reports 'expert' to create some reports that none of the staff had time for. For a couple of days the guy would ask how to make the numbers round down, rather than just rounding off. On the second day I took pity on him and showed him the joys of the Floor function. I had never programmed anything in CR, but I knew that there had to be a floor operator in there somewhere.
I'm sure there are good Indian programmers. I'm also relatively certain that most of them are here on student visas, working on their grad school degrees. Those not in school most likely expect the same level of pay as their American counterparts. Never forget that you get what you pay for.
It's true, the reception is noticeably worse with DTV. The issues are much more annoying, as it will cut in and cut out, rather than having a relatively linear level of quality based on how good your signal is. I have a nice HDTV, but I'm dreading the switch, as I won't be able to get the channels that don't have a clear enough signal for DTV.
Wow.. Go Bill! Way to predict Gmail's success!
Which is basically redundant considering the market's assessment of an organization's value at any given point in time is mankind's most influential determinant of its future value. Your first post was fine as is.
Fixed that for you
Academia usually pushes students into smaller and smaller areas of specialization.. Sounds like this guy has actually managed to be a generalist (assuming his degrees aren't all in roughly the same subject)
Well, I personally thought autorun was stupid when they introduced it in the mid 90s, but I can understand the reasoning for it.
Back then, it was specifically added to make it easier for people to install software simply by inserting a disk and pressing a button. Of course, back then this mainly applied only to optical media, since floppies were on their way out and USB hadn't made an impact at the time. Transferring via CDRs was of course possible, but would have required a lot more effort on the virus writer's part since they would have to write specific exploits for each major CD burning software package.
Now though, with real R/W media back in the picture, the flaw looks more like a glaring security hole than it did 13 years ago.
yuh huh!
it wasn't hunt and peck.. he never looked away from the screen. I had to see his scores on the typing program to believe it, but he managed it. I don't know if he could type that fast in real world situations, but he could do it in front of Mavis Beacon
So are they going to make a special hole in the atmosphere over the base so they can pelt them with solar radiation?
i knew a guy in high school who could do 120 wpm on qwerty.....using only 2 fingers. Instead of learning to type like the rest of us he just used his index fingers. I don't know what he's doing now, but I bet he has carpal tunnel syndrome..
Why would that be no longer effective? If the cloak reroutes 90% of the light, then you're left with 10% opacity, right? Sure, something that translucent would be very difficult to see, especially from a distance.
The Predator still got his ass shot up good with that hand-held vulcan gun, because the soldier saw the 10% of light that he couldn't cloak.
Yes, but if you look at it from a D&D point of view, you get a 90% miss chance, which is a game-breaking advantage.
If you have to ask, then your idea probably isn't that great.