Average users haven't a clue what Mozilla or Netscape or Linux is; unless the read about it in the paper, heard about it on talk radio, or saw it on the evening news. Average users do not rely on message boards like/. They take their cues from friends and family and the special "Tech" issues put out by magazines like Time, Newsweek, and RollingStone and the occasional "Tech" specials on TV.
The average user receives a free AOL CD and uses it. Or buys a computer at Best Buy and signs up for MSN. Or worse yet, contracts with a company like Adelphia or @Home or ATT and uses their home page (recommended browser? IE 5.5).
The average user doesn't have the same interest as 99% of the/. community. Hence, the average user doesn't care if: 1) Linux is free and far more stable than Windows or 2) Mozilla has better security than any version of IE.
The average user really ONLY cares that 1) his kids can do homework using MS Office; 2) that he can access the Internet using something that is easy and familiar (like the browser at work, which is more than likely IE) 3) that AOL was easy to install and setup and his family and friends use the same 4) that the free "parental control" software he downloaded works on AOL and IE; and 5) that Quicken runs on his system.
My only point is that Mozilla and Netscape will grow, yes. But like Apple & Linux, they will more than likely compete for a small portion of the marketplace.
Is there a way that these products could take a larger portion of the marketplace? I don't know. Probably. But, you would have to convince the average consumer that these products are "the thing" they can't live without... just as Microsoft has done for the past 10 years.
Anyway, I have to say I like it the way it is now. No corporate fingers exercising control over the development cycles of Mozilla and Linux means good stuff in the future. And with the advent of Micorsoft and Intel's efforts to cease all "pirated" software and media files; Mozilla and Linux, (et al) development is very important to me.
Average users will never switch to Linux or Mozilla. Average users will stay with their Dell or Gateway systems with AOL and MS software already imbedded.
Those of us that use our systems for more than emailing Grandma new pictures of the kids or "instant messaging" our long lost college roommate will continue to promote and use Linux and Mozilla.
Considering Edwards Theatres here in Orange County, CA cut half of their IMAX theatres (due to NO ticket sales), I'm sure I'll have to travel to LA or better yet Vegas.:)
Moviefone.com will have the dates and times sometime soon.
Whoa... put down that fifth cup of coffee and step away from the computer. Go outside and take a deep breath.
Please don't think for a moment that the/. community is not aware of current political and social affairs. We are. More than you are aware.
In addition, don't think for a moment that the/. community isn't active in political and social affairs. We are. More than you are aware.
However, it is not realistic to expect us to discuss only one topic. One issue. One idea. Etc...
People die, everyday. Nations attack each other, everyday. Children go hungry, everyday. That sucks... but life and work goes on. And so must we.
So, we discuss "bubble-gum" topics like AOTC going to IMAX.
Personally, I think it's cool. Seeing a 40 foot tall Yoda will be cool. Does it change what's going on in the Middle-East, Africa, Asia, or Los Angeles? No. Does it make the world a better place? Probably not. But it will give my wife and I some enjoyment for a couple of hours. And enjoyment and happiness is what's important, my friend.
This sounds like a consulting firm drumming up business for themselves. Kind of like the telemarketers that call everyday offering to sell us toner at a reduced rate.
At least they gave us notice of their intent... gives me time to un-install XP and run Linux solely. And time to save up for that new Mac I'll be buying come Christmas.:)
I'm confused... I've never had a problem with XP and setting my defaults as other-than-Micorsoft. I use Mozilla as my browser and several different programs for media (my default being QuickTime). If I double click on a JPG, then PhotoShop opens (my default setting). If I click on an HTML or HTM page, then Mozilla or Dreamweaver opens (depending on the file folder).......
I've worked for 2 companies that experienced what WoTC is going through. My two previous companies operated at a very good profit (mostly due to good R&D and good QA). Both companies had more than $10million cash in the bank. Enter the "parent" company and a buy-out offer that fattens board members and some executives. 9 months later the $10 million is gone and the lay-offs begin. Both companies cash reserves were used to "prop" up the parent company's own operation.
Nothing really new here. Kinda sucks for those still at WoTC; especially considering how hard they have worked in the past 4 years.
Microsoft's corporate/campus mentality doesn't strike me as one that would welcome a "hacker/cracker" into its fold... especially a person that may have "broken" MS code.
This definitely worked for the Dead. Never sold more than 2 million units of their studio albums, but consistantly generated over $50US from live shows.
"who want to make their music, and not sell their soul in the process"
You can't. In order to sell (500,000+ units) anything in this country, you have to compromise your values and artistic freedoms. However, you can go the old-fashioned route and save some of your values and freedoms: 1. Create your own label. 2. Play 300 nights a year all over the country (thus creating a fan base) 3. Sell CDs and Tapes at shows and local music stores. (Large chain stores probably won't sell your CDs, because of contracts and deals with major labels and distributors) 5. Create a web-site with tour dates, photos, band info, message board, etc... and sell CDs and Tapes.
You may not sell a million albums, but you'll certainly make more money than if you hand-over your rights to the big "labels." The old-fashioned way, you retain the rights to your image, music, and all related materials.
The rapper/business mogul Master P started with some capital from another "business," created his own label and sold albums out of the trunk of his car. He only sold 50,000 units of his second single, but made more money that most artists on a major label selling a million plus units.
No substitute for just getting out there and playing shows. Lots and lots and lots of shows.
Yup yup it works... sometimes. It's kind of tricky to "upgrade" from DOS to Win 3.1, but doable. After that, it's all about sitting in front of your monitor and pressing the NEXT button several hundred times.
When is it too much? Pretty soon, there will be no need to leave one's bed... everything will be done for you, to you, and around you by computers. Not much fun...
Please oh please oh please oh please come to Southern California with this show. I'm tired of the same old "computer shows," harvest festivals, and monster truck/dirtbike events. I need this!!!
So ICANN pulls the plug on Verisign and hands it to another company... what changes? Does this new group have some magical software that will "verify" every registry, every address, every phone number, and add security? I think not. Sounds suspiciously like someone is willing to fork over a pile of cash to some key ICANN people in return for Verisign's business.
Is the DMCA written so poorly that other companies like IBM and Lexmark should be worried about their typewriters violating the DMCA? Or Xerox and their copiers? Or Kinkos? Is the hope courts will begin to see that the DMCA is far too vague in its language and too draconian in its punishments?
As far as Tron not having much CGI, you're right. But, you must realize that it was one of the first movies to use CGI at a time when a hundred computers and tape drives were needed to store the same amount of information you can now store on a single hard drive. In other words, Tron (the movie and story) was ahead its time.
In addition, I think it is safe to say that had Tron not been released by Disney and Apple had not released such a powerful AD campaign (i.e. the Superbowl 1984esq commercial for the Mac), studios may not have given movies like The Last Starfighter a chance for some years and investors may not have funded the likes of IBM, Apple, and Microsoft R&D.
You may view Tron as "primitive" today, but it is one of the primary reasons you fork over $9US to watch Pixar's newest creations every Summer.
Average users haven't a clue what Mozilla or Netscape or Linux is; unless the read about it in the paper, heard about it on talk radio, or saw it on the evening news. Average users do not rely on message boards like /. They take their cues from friends and family and the special "Tech" issues put out by magazines like Time, Newsweek, and RollingStone and the occasional "Tech" specials on TV.
/. community. Hence, the average user doesn't care if:
The average user receives a free AOL CD and uses it. Or buys a computer at Best Buy and signs up for MSN. Or worse yet, contracts with a company like Adelphia or @Home or ATT and uses their home page (recommended browser? IE 5.5).
The average user doesn't have the same interest as 99% of the
1) Linux is free and far more stable than Windows or
2) Mozilla has better security than any version of IE.
The average user really ONLY cares that
1) his kids can do homework using MS Office;
2) that he can access the Internet using something that is easy and familiar (like the browser at work, which is more than likely IE)
3) that AOL was easy to install and setup and his family and friends use the same
4) that the free "parental control" software he downloaded works on AOL and IE; and
5) that Quicken runs on his system.
My only point is that Mozilla and Netscape will grow, yes. But like Apple & Linux, they will more than likely compete for a small portion of the marketplace.
Is there a way that these products could take a larger portion of the marketplace? I don't know. Probably. But, you would have to convince the average consumer that these products are "the thing" they can't live without... just as Microsoft has done for the past 10 years.
Anyway, I have to say I like it the way it is now. No corporate fingers exercising control over the development cycles of Mozilla and Linux means good stuff in the future. And with the advent of Micorsoft and Intel's efforts to cease all "pirated" software and media files; Mozilla and Linux, (et al) development is very important to me.
Average users will never switch to Linux or Mozilla. Average users will stay with their Dell or Gateway systems with AOL and MS software already imbedded.
Those of us that use our systems for more than emailing Grandma new pictures of the kids or "instant messaging" our long lost college roommate will continue to promote and use Linux and Mozilla.
"20-30 science museum sites"
A lot of people are complaining that this is a ploy by George to earn himself more money and possibly surpass Spiderman (not gonna happen).
But, did anyone think maybe the Science Museums showing the film may benefit finacially tremendously? That's only a good thing.
Amen.
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Sometimes I wonder about the criteria used to sift through and post stories on
Something more than "closed system" would be helpful to facilitate some kind of constructive discussion here.
Considering Edwards Theatres here in Orange County, CA cut half of their IMAX theatres (due to NO ticket sales), I'm sure I'll have to travel to LA or better yet Vegas. :)
Moviefone.com will have the dates and times sometime soon.
Happens all the time. Sorry, my friend..........
Yes, it would make sense if they were selling Fax toner. They're not. They're selling printer toner.
Out
Whoa... put down that fifth cup of coffee and step away from the computer. Go outside and take a deep breath.
/. community is not aware of current political and social affairs. We are. More than you are aware.
/. community isn't active in political and social affairs. We are. More than you are aware.
Please don't think for a moment that the
In addition, don't think for a moment that the
However, it is not realistic to expect us to discuss only one topic. One issue. One idea. Etc...
People die, everyday. Nations attack each other, everyday. Children go hungry, everyday. That sucks... but life and work goes on. And so must we.
So, we discuss "bubble-gum" topics like AOTC going to IMAX.
Personally, I think it's cool. Seeing a 40 foot tall Yoda will be cool. Does it change what's going on in the Middle-East, Africa, Asia, or Los Angeles? No. Does it make the world a better place? Probably not.
But it will give my wife and I some enjoyment for a couple of hours. And enjoyment and happiness is what's important, my friend.
Out.
This sounds like a consulting firm drumming up business for themselves. Kind of like the telemarketers that call everyday offering to sell us toner at a reduced rate.
At least they gave us notice of their intent... gives me time to un-install XP and run Linux solely. And time to save up for that new Mac I'll be buying come Christmas. :)
Everything you need to know about the laws of physics you can learn by watching Wylie E. Coyote and Roadrunner cartoons.
Beep! Beep!
I'm confused... I've never had a problem with XP and setting my defaults as other-than-Micorsoft. I use Mozilla as my browser and several different programs for media (my default being QuickTime). ......
If I double click on a JPG, then PhotoShop opens (my default setting). If I click on an HTML or HTM page, then Mozilla or Dreamweaver opens (depending on the file folder).
I've worked for 2 companies that experienced what WoTC is going through. My two previous companies operated at a very good profit (mostly due to good R&D and good QA). Both companies had more than $10million cash in the bank.
Enter the "parent" company and a buy-out offer that fattens board members and some executives. 9 months later the $10 million is gone and the lay-offs begin.
Both companies cash reserves were used to "prop" up the parent company's own operation.
Nothing really new here. Kinda sucks for those still at WoTC; especially considering how hard they have worked in the past 4 years.
Microsoft's corporate/campus mentality doesn't strike me as one that would welcome a "hacker/cracker" into its fold... especially a person that may have "broken" MS code.
LOL! Ummmm... $50million US. :)
This definitely worked for the Dead. Never sold more than 2 million units of their studio albums, but consistantly generated over $50US from live shows.
"Long strange trip..........."
"who want to make their music, and not sell their soul in the process"
You can't. In order to sell (500,000+ units) anything in this country, you have to compromise your values and artistic freedoms.
However, you can go the old-fashioned route and save some of your values and freedoms:
1. Create your own label.
2. Play 300 nights a year all over the country (thus creating a fan base)
3. Sell CDs and Tapes at shows and local music stores. (Large chain stores probably won't sell your CDs, because of contracts and deals with major labels and distributors)
5. Create a web-site with tour dates, photos, band info, message board, etc... and sell CDs and Tapes.
You may not sell a million albums, but you'll certainly make more money than if you hand-over your rights to the big "labels." The old-fashioned way, you retain the rights to your image, music, and all related materials.
The rapper/business mogul Master P started with some capital from another "business," created his own label and sold albums out of the trunk of his car. He only sold 50,000 units of his second single, but made more money that most artists on a major label selling a million plus units.
No substitute for just getting out there and playing shows. Lots and lots and lots of shows.
Umm...tell us something we didn't already know.
Yup yup it works... sometimes. It's kind of tricky to "upgrade" from DOS to Win 3.1, but doable. After that, it's all about sitting in front of your monitor and pressing the NEXT button several hundred times.
When is it too much? Pretty soon, there will be no need to leave one's bed... everything will be done for you, to you, and around you by computers.
Not much fun...
Please oh please oh please oh please come to Southern California with this show.
I'm tired of the same old "computer shows," harvest festivals, and monster truck/dirtbike events. I need this!!!
Make him sit and upgrade a single machine from DOS to 3.1 to 95 to 98 to NT to 2000 to XP. That's about 8 hours of sheer "insert next disk" hell. :)
evil...
So ICANN pulls the plug on Verisign and hands it to another company... what changes? Does this new group have some magical software that will "verify" every registry, every address, every phone number, and add security? I think not.
Sounds suspiciously like someone is willing to fork over a pile of cash to some key ICANN people in return for Verisign's business.
Is the DMCA written so poorly that other companies like IBM and Lexmark should be worried about their typewriters violating the DMCA? Or Xerox and their copiers? Or Kinkos?
Is the hope courts will begin to see that the DMCA is far too vague in its language and too draconian in its punishments?
As far as Tron not having much CGI, you're right. But, you must realize that it was one of the first movies to use CGI at a time when a hundred computers and tape drives were needed to store the same amount of information you can now store on a single hard drive. In other words, Tron (the movie and story) was ahead its time.
In addition, I think it is safe to say that had Tron not been released by Disney and Apple had not released such a powerful AD campaign (i.e. the Superbowl 1984esq commercial for the Mac), studios may not have given movies like The Last Starfighter a chance for some years and investors may not have funded the likes of IBM, Apple, and Microsoft R&D.
You may view Tron as "primitive" today, but it is one of the primary reasons you fork over $9US to watch Pixar's newest creations every Summer.