if we were the law makers, a great deal of things would be different, including patent laws. patents should be for works (including but not limited the specific algorythmes, physical objects, works of art), and not general things. i know i don't have alot of backing on the first examplle of works with the slashdot crowd, but i do think that if you build a codec, people shouldn't be aloud to rip you off (not a problem if its free software, but if you are commercial, its a huge problem), but if you try to get a patent for something like this, the rough equivelant of "a method of making object move towards massive objects by apperent majic (e.g. gravity)" you should be taken out back and shot.
the mexican govrenment, lies. they lie alot. the mexican government makes the american government look like a bunch of club scouts and choir boys. i do not like the mexican government. everybody look into the zapatisa movement as to why the mexican government is evil. they have no interest in fighting poverty, their bankroll gets paid because of it. as of 1994 (the year NAFTA went into effect) the people of mexico have been getting poorer, which means that multi-national corperations can come in and pay them nothing, which means that the mexican people will work for less, which means that the next company in will pay less. the mexican government refuses to intervien in this cycle. the mexican government is selling public lands for personal profeit. how would you feel if the mayor of los angelos sold the statue of liberty to some multi-national corperation so that they could strip mine the (small) island and melt down the staute? the mayor of los angelos is thousands of miles away, and even still has no rights to sell the land. the point is that the government has consistantly gone back on what they said they would do, they have sold lands which belongs to the people to fatten their coffers, and have subdued non-violent reform groups with extreme violence, and extreme prejudice. do not support the mexican government, and hold your hands still, it may be a victory for the linux community, but it comes at the hands of an enemy to humanity.
    there are fundimentaly right. open source threatens the way that america does business, becuase (to over simplify it) open source is a form of socialism, which goes tooth and nail against capitalism. however, since it is socialism as directed by the first amendment, and you can't stop people from giving gifts or expressing their beliefs (see bill of rights), and patents are a tact-on, and not even a right, MicroSoft (and the rest of the closedsource community) should releize that we are PROTECTED BY THE FUCKING CONSTITUTION AND THEY ARE NOT!     if they don't want to do business, they have to pack up shop, they can't slander us to death (cause of them pesky laws), or threaten us, or try to take our market shares (we are our market) and drive us out of business. the only weapon that they have is endoctrination and the weight that they carry with the hardware industry, if we take away the government from them (with quality GPL software) then private businesses will follow. microsoft had a glorious run at the top of the heap, and a long one at that, i think its time to frag them. there will always be corperate support for the man trying to take out the industrial giants, this is the nature of business
the key to breaking RSA encryption, as most people know, is factoring large numbers quickly. according to the current state of mathimatics this is not possible except by trial and error, brute force. However if there was a way to factor numbers without the need for mathimatics, this method of encryption could be rendered useless. I have an idea for using physical means to break down large numbers into their prime number componants (factoring). If anybody is interesting in reading about my machine (which will never be build because i lack the skill, drive, and malice towards society) feel free to write me and i'll post it somewhere.
pretty much the only part of that paragraph was the line that said "take control of kernel development so that kernel development would better suit the interests of said $2 billion industry." i thought the point was that the industry didn't control the software, that the programmers did. if we can assume this to be true, then linus, the program, has the only say in what happens to the kernel, end of story...
this is really cool. its like a speedpass barcode! as my friend jake pointed out you could use this to inventory the products in your house again a grocery list and have what you need to buy upoaded to your PDA. that to would be sweet. even better is that if someone wants to know what you are getting, for market information, or to rob you blind, they need only a simple device to do it! just like how a high frequency RF scan from something like a satelite can see the location of every speed pass in america or the world really! big brother may not be shy, but at least ill do it willingly. if anybody wants to track me, email me and ill give you my mailing address, send cool technology to me, and ill fucking tell you where i am and what im doing, no need to buy tracking gizmos!
except for reading the stolen code (which i personally recommend against, keeping the high ground means not violating the law, no matter what the gains could be), there would be no way to find stolen code in microsoft products.
I'm sure that the people who are working on the wine project can show tarballs of source code going farther back than microsoft could. it doesn't matter anyways, if they can show the source from four months ago (one month before MS got cracked) than they can prove beyond any doubt that they aren't receiving stolen code in any way shape or form and then also that MS is trying to sabbotage them, thats not only an unfair bussiness practice, but i doubt that the FBI likes it when big brother cries wolf...
I have seen another ad from microsoft. it basically went on to say that UNIX was ancient, hard to train people for, and Linux/BSD was ONLY used on about 11% of americas servers.
Its funny that they apparently don't relize how old they've become, they are older than Linux, that no operating system is intuitive, that 11% of a market is pretty good for something that was started as a re-implimentation of an "ancient" system, and that Gates has a really annoying voice, and should never do speeches or television.
    After giving the matter not to much thought it occured to me that maybe instead of forking away corperations like IBM, who are undoubtably promoting their own hardware line by making it "Linux Compatable", we fork them in. OK, so thats a lousy way of putting it, what I mean is that 'Special Directive' code (drivers for missles and other such non-sense I will never need), would be downloaded as extras:
    A special tree would be made for the 'special directive' code, when you need it, you download it, hit the 'Special Directive' option in the kernel configuration program, it gives you a seperate dialog box for the extra-code (or optimally, it knows what options go with which configuration boxes and changes the config options intellegently), you compile, and everybody is happy:
  You are happy because your 80 terraflop supercomputer the size of a small state is running what you consider to be a well refined and sophisticated operating system,
  I'm happy because I didn't have to download kernel source for hardware I'll likely never get to see,
  J.Q. Hacker is happy because his system of configuring the extra code into the kernel (in an intellegent and automated manor) got picked up and works splendidly.
    Forking projects divides efforts and invariably duplicates efforts.     Duplicated effort is waste.
the feul you want is nitro-methane, its a safe, natural gas that is what they use in things like models and race cars because the engines that use it can handle a huge number of revolutions per minute. in addition it is cheap, safe, (hard to catch on fire, and ecologically more sound than fossil fuels). we should use this, it would be a small task of dumbing down racing engines to work for the general public.
. I don't think this is even going to need to go to court. No matter how you read the GPL, it clearly states that if you used a GPL'ed program, "in part or in whole", then any and all derivitives are GPL'ed. Whichever company decided that they made to much money to pay attention to copyright laws needs to go back and Read The * Manual (ok so its a licence agreement, but thats kinda a manual of exceptable uses of the covered works).
there is some post down there about forming a Open Source Patenting commitee. That is a very good idea, if everything Open Source we're patented than people like microsoft (who buy stolen software like DOS 1.0) would have follow open source rules when using things like symlinks and this apt-like system (i know its not the same, but its really close). I think that we need to have someone look into forming this commitee, anybody interested? This is the post
if i had one question, i think that it would have to be "what are you going to do with the names once you get them?" it hardly makes sense that they would sit on them until something happened than pull out the list and say "he's on the list!". but i really must wonder if this will turn into an ugly case of 'thought crime', for those of you who haven't read 1984, thought crime is something you cant prove you didnt do, any devient behaviours or thought get reported and you are essentially dissappeared by the appropriate authorities, also, go read the book. but i just think that unless they are gunna violate constitutional rights, that they have no reason to compile this 'black list'. and i must admit that its more than a little scary that this sort of KGB crap is leagal.
i think this is a story i will be following very closely.
galen is right to point that if the DoD wants to strengthen security they should do away with shared accounts and stregthen passwds. also they should get some of those key logging keyboards that were on slashdot, we'll maybe not. anyways, one way ive heard to ensure that the user at the terminal is who they say they are is to go back to another slashdot article which pointed me to this interveiw: http://www.geeknews.net/interveiws/kevinw.shtml
for those of you who dont want to read, its about the cybernetics prof from Reading who put a chip in his arm (a setup similar to the mobile speedpas) that allowed computers and rooms to identify him and open doors for him and log into terminals for him.
instead of loggin inot terminals, it should be used like a second passwd.
login: daevt passwd: ************
Reading from chip............
authorization failed! your unique chip number has been reported to the proper authorities!
or
authorization success! $USER, welcome to $HOST
naturally, i think that there are a bunch of us who wouldn't want the governemnt to be able to track us with military grade satellites, (the chip is powered when it receives radiowaves through its powercoil and then spits out a string of numbers) but it would be the second securest method i can think of.
the first would require a direct link into my head which nobody will ever get my permission to do. but the abilty to get a unique feedback for an image or sound fed into your brain. like you brain is your own passwd chipher, and since no one can duplicate your automatic responses, only you could give back every detail of your response. however i do beleive that time will never come, and its probably a good thing to, what happens if this thing crashes while your logining in, braindamage? now that im why off topic...
if the DoD isn't gunna use gpl, its my understanding having actually sat down one night and read all of gnu.org, that they can't write anything based on it. the reasoning is that if they make their own linux distro, all components that share code with current linux distros will require it, by law, to be gpl, which the government will not be happy with. it appears that although title 17 section 105 is very close to gpl'ing something, it goes against the gpl of a product if its children are title 17 section 105'ed instead of gpl'ed.
although it would appear on other occasions that the governemnt, in the end, will do what it damn well pleases, and that we can all go to hell if we think we can change that. we cant stop them from stealing from gpl'ed software, and it would be foolish of us to make them use it at the risk of them stealing it or classifing its children.
maybe it would be good to have the government refining the code of non-critical source, imagine the us governemnt doing bug fixes for you, or better yet getting a government contract to do the bug fixes you already do!
well, maybe none of this is really relevant, but i think that the government would be an asset and a danger (the kind of person your glad to work for but you always keep an eye on) on account that they could easily warp all of our effort for the use of evil (making the products of 'DoD Linux' closed source for security reasons).
I think that its very cool that the government is looking into open source. in fact i think its fantastic. but the government should not be limited to open source, the government has to be able to use what ever software gets the job done. one way to ensure that this is open source is to have open source people work in government, to an extent that we write enough software to get the job of government done, that they dont need to buy propritary software.
i don't like the idea of my government be run by non-gpl software, but i also dont like the idea of forcing anybody's hand.
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if we were the law makers, a great deal of things would be different, including patent laws. patents should be for works (including but not limited the specific algorythmes, physical objects, works of art), and not general things. i know i don't have alot of backing on the first examplle of works with the slashdot crowd, but i do think that if you build a codec, people shouldn't be aloud to rip you off (not a problem if its free software, but if you are commercial, its a huge problem), but if you try to get a patent for something like this, the rough equivelant of "a method of making object move towards massive objects by apperent majic (e.g. gravity)" you should be taken out back and shot.
the mexican govrenment, lies. they lie alot. the mexican government makes the american government look like a bunch of club scouts and choir boys. i do not like the mexican government. everybody look into the zapatisa movement as to why the mexican government is evil. they have no interest in fighting poverty, their bankroll gets paid because of it. as of 1994 (the year NAFTA went into effect) the people of mexico have been getting poorer, which means that multi-national corperations can come in and pay them nothing, which means that the mexican people will work for less, which means that the next company in will pay less. the mexican government refuses to intervien in this cycle. the mexican government is selling public lands for personal profeit. how would you feel if the mayor of los angelos sold the statue of liberty to some multi-national corperation so that they could strip mine the (small) island and melt down the staute? the mayor of los angelos is thousands of miles away, and even still has no rights to sell the land. the point is that the government has consistantly gone back on what they said they would do, they have sold lands which belongs to the people to fatten their coffers, and have subdued non-violent reform groups with extreme violence, and extreme prejudice. do not support the mexican government, and hold your hands still, it may be a victory for the linux community, but it comes at the hands of an enemy to humanity.
don't eat spicy foods before bed
    there are fundimentaly right. open source threatens the way that america does business, becuase (to over simplify it) open source is a form of socialism, which goes tooth and nail against capitalism. however, since it is socialism as directed by the first amendment, and you can't stop people from giving gifts or expressing their beliefs (see bill of rights), and patents are a tact-on, and not even a right, MicroSoft (and the rest of the closedsource community) should releize that we are PROTECTED BY THE FUCKING CONSTITUTION AND THEY ARE NOT!
    if they don't want to do business, they have to pack up shop, they can't slander us to death (cause of them pesky laws), or threaten us, or try to take our market shares (we are our market) and drive us out of business. the only weapon that they have is endoctrination and the weight that they carry with the hardware industry, if we take away the government from them (with quality GPL software) then private businesses will follow. microsoft had a glorious run at the top of the heap, and a long one at that, i think its time to frag them.
there will always be corperate support for the man trying to take out the industrial giants, this is the nature of business
the key to breaking RSA encryption, as most people know, is factoring large numbers quickly. according to the current state of mathimatics this is not possible except by trial and error, brute force. However if there was a way to factor numbers without the need for mathimatics, this method of encryption could be rendered useless. I have an idea for using physical means to break down large numbers into their prime number componants (factoring). If anybody is interesting in reading about my machine (which will never be build because i lack the skill, drive, and malice towards society) feel free to write me and i'll post it somewhere.
don't be a spelling nazi, it makes you look like a dickhead
pretty much the only part of that paragraph was the line that said "take control of kernel development so that kernel development would better suit the interests of said $2 billion industry." i thought the point was that the industry didn't control the software, that the programmers did. if we can assume this to be true, then linus, the program, has the only say in what happens to the kernel, end of story...
how long before we get another album from you guys? how about from mono puff?
this is really cool. its like a speedpass barcode! as my friend jake pointed out you could use this to inventory the products in your house again a grocery list and have what you need to buy upoaded to your PDA. that to would be sweet. even better is that if someone wants to know what you are getting, for market information, or to rob you blind, they need only a simple device to do it! just like how a high frequency RF scan from something like a satelite can see the location of every speed pass in america or the world really! big brother may not be shy, but at least ill do it willingly. if anybody wants to track me, email me and ill give you my mailing address, send cool technology to me, and ill fucking tell you where i am and what im doing, no need to buy tracking gizmos!
because like on this ballot, cowboy neal was not an option...
except for reading the stolen code (which i personally recommend against, keeping the high ground means not violating the law, no matter what the gains could be), there would be no way to find stolen code in microsoft products.
I'm sure that the people who are working on the wine project can show tarballs of source code going farther back than microsoft could. it doesn't matter anyways, if they can show the source from four months ago (one month before MS got cracked) than they can prove beyond any doubt that they aren't receiving stolen code in any way shape or form and then also that MS is trying to sabbotage them, thats not only an unfair bussiness practice, but i doubt that the FBI likes it when big brother cries wolf...
advertiszing is like campaigning, people get sick of negative VERY quickly, in short, this makes MS look like the lot of whining brats they are...
I have seen another ad from microsoft. it basically went on to say that UNIX was ancient, hard to train people for, and Linux/BSD was ONLY used on about 11% of americas servers.
Its funny that they apparently don't relize how old they've become, they are older than Linux, that no operating system is intuitive, that 11% of a market is pretty good for something that was started as a re-implimentation of an "ancient" system, and that Gates has a really annoying voice, and should never do speeches or television.
    A special tree would be made for the 'special directive' code, when you need it, you download it, hit the 'Special Directive' option in the kernel configuration program, it gives you a seperate dialog box for the extra-code (or optimally, it knows what options go with which configuration boxes and changes the config options intellegently), you compile, and everybody is happy:
  You are happy because your 80 terraflop supercomputer the size of a small state is running what you consider to be a well refined and sophisticated operating system,
  I'm happy because I didn't have to download kernel source for hardware I'll likely never get to see,
  J.Q. Hacker is happy because his system of configuring the extra code into the kernel (in an intellegent and automated manor) got picked up and works splendidly.
    Forking projects divides efforts and invariably duplicates efforts.
    Duplicated effort is waste.
the feul you want is nitro-methane, its a safe, natural gas that is what they use in things like models and race cars because the engines that use it can handle a huge number of revolutions per minute. in addition it is cheap, safe, (hard to catch on fire, and ecologically more sound than fossil fuels). we should use this, it would be a small task of dumbing down racing engines to work for the general public.
in that case, maybe they should build a barn-door. right, like your response made any sense what-so-ever...
. I don't think this is even going to need to go to court. No matter how you read the GPL, it clearly states that if you used a GPL'ed program, "in part or in whole", then any and all derivitives are GPL'ed. Whichever company decided that they made to much money to pay attention to copyright laws needs to go back and Read The * Manual (ok so its a licence agreement, but thats kinda a manual of exceptable uses of the covered works).
there is some post down there about forming a Open Source Patenting commitee. That is a very good idea, if everything Open Source we're patented than people like microsoft (who buy stolen software like DOS 1.0) would have follow open source rules when using things like symlinks and this apt-like system (i know its not the same, but its really close). I think that we need to have someone look into forming this commitee, anybody interested? This is the post
if i had one question, i think that it would have to be "what are you going to do with the names once you get them?" it hardly makes sense that they would sit on them until something happened than pull out the list and say "he's on the list!". but i really must wonder if this will turn into an ugly case of 'thought crime', for those of you who haven't read 1984, thought crime is something you cant prove you didnt do, any devient behaviours or thought get reported and you are essentially dissappeared by the appropriate authorities, also, go read the book. but i just think that unless they are gunna violate constitutional rights, that they have no reason to compile this 'black list'. and i must admit that its more than a little scary that this sort of KGB crap is leagal.
i think this is a story i will be following very closely.
ford doesnt possition itself so that ford motors are the only option for doing business like ms tried to.
galen is right to point that if the DoD wants to strengthen security they should do away with shared accounts and stregthen passwds. also they should get some of those key logging keyboards that were on slashdot, we'll maybe not. anyways, one way ive heard to ensure that the user at the terminal is who they say they are is to go back to another slashdot article which pointed me to this interveiw: http://www.geeknews.net/interveiws/kevinw.shtml
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for those of you who dont want to read, its about the cybernetics prof from Reading who put a chip in his arm (a setup similar to the mobile speedpas) that allowed computers and rooms to identify him and open doors for him and log into terminals for him.
instead of loggin inot terminals, it should be used like a second passwd.
login: daevt
passwd: ************
Reading from chip
authorization failed!
your unique chip number has been reported to the proper authorities!
or
authorization success!
$USER, welcome to $HOST
naturally, i think that there are a bunch of us who wouldn't want the governemnt to be able to track us with military grade satellites, (the chip is powered when it receives radiowaves through its powercoil and then spits out a string of numbers) but it would be the second securest method i can think of.
the first would require a direct link into my head which nobody will ever get my permission to do. but the abilty to get a unique feedback for an image or sound fed into your brain. like you brain is your own passwd chipher, and since no one can duplicate your automatic responses, only you could give back every detail of your response.
however i do beleive that time will never come, and its probably a good thing to, what happens if this thing crashes while your logining in, braindamage? now that im why off topic...
grow up
if the DoD isn't gunna use gpl, its my understanding having actually sat down one night and read all of gnu.org, that they can't write anything based on it. the reasoning is that if they make their own linux distro, all components that share code with current linux distros will require it, by law, to be gpl, which the government will not be happy with. it appears that although title 17 section 105 is very close to gpl'ing something, it goes against the gpl of a product if its children are title 17 section 105'ed instead of gpl'ed.
although it would appear on other occasions that the governemnt, in the end, will do what it damn well pleases, and that we can all go to hell if we think we can change that. we cant stop them from stealing from gpl'ed software, and it would be foolish of us to make them use it at the risk of them stealing it or classifing its children.
maybe it would be good to have the government refining the code of non-critical source, imagine the us governemnt doing bug fixes for you, or better yet getting a government contract to do the bug fixes you already do!
well, maybe none of this is really relevant, but i think that the government would be an asset and a danger (the kind of person your glad to work for but you always keep an eye on) on account that they could easily warp all of our effort for the use of evil (making the products of 'DoD Linux' closed source for security reasons).
ok im rambling
I think that its very cool that the government is looking into open source. in fact i think its fantastic. but the government should not be limited to open source, the government has to be able to use what ever software gets the job done. one way to ensure that this is open source is to have open source people work in government, to an extent that we write enough software to get the job of government done, that they dont need to buy propritary software.
i don't like the idea of my government be run by non-gpl software, but i also dont like the idea of forcing anybody's hand.