There's little reason to believe that our ancestors, going quite far back, had any less inherent intellectual, cultural or social capacity than us. (Other than what we might have from superior nutrition, health, etc. See Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs and Steel for that...)
Jared's "The Third Chimpanzee" goes about how humans branched off and took a separate path from the "other chimps". In it he also goes speculates about how and when we took our great leap forward.
While Guns Germs and Steel seemed a more insightful book, The Third Chimpanzee goes exactly about the evolutionary differentiation that made us, how different (or not) we are from chimps and other mammals, and about the plausible evolutionary explanations for these differences.
(I am not the GP). Many books I am interested in reading, don't have a decent "downloable version" on PirateBay. The lack of a decent non-DRM service does hurt.
I have a ebook reader (Hanlin v3), and I am also at point in my life where I have the surplus income to buy all books I want without problems. I could and would pay for books for it. The books I want are not in PirateBay, or just have crappy scanned copies.
Specially when going on vacations, I would really rather the Hanlin than 10 dead-tree books. Even if willing to download, and pay for the dead-trees, I can't have decent files for my e-reader.
The primary reasons for my GF to get one (MSI-Wind) was weight and battery life. The other choices were around 1000 euros, which was the price of a 13" laptop capable of handling Vista. But still the weight was higher, and battery life worse. Same for the ~1000euros Mac we saw.
Among voters aged under 30, some 19 percent are believed to have cast a vote for the Pirate Party.
"They are the biggest party among young people, bigger than both the Social Democrats and the Moderates," said politics professor SÃren Holmberg.
As I was just telling my girlfriend, one way or another, it should be the first time the EP gets people who actually understand present day computer technology.
Seriously, someone needs to find who wrote the fucking memo that says you can have all the regressions you want as long as your applications use Qt4.
It's a new app, there is no such thing as a regression. Same applies to many other KDE4 progs.
If it is a _new app_ why they keep using the same names, and increasing the version numbers? Which is the computing standard for "new version of app X".
This is exactly the problem I have. There is a minority of old public domain books, from which I can have a custom PDF generated for it, with my own choice of fonts and font size.
I tried downloading books from the web. Often the HTML based ones are so fragmented I can't read comfortably. The PDF based will have fonts I consider too small, and the zooming of the HanlinV3 is not very functional as you can't scroll to the side.
Oh, also... is it really necessary to buy a full-priced dev phone, or can the subsidized ones still be rooted with trivial ease?
Rooting the OS is trivial for US consumers. You have to install the older hackable firmwares, root, and then upgrade to "rooted" images (or the ADP image itself). Check the XDA forums on the "Dream" for the information on how to do that with the G1.
Java on embedded devices is relatively small, certainly not as widespread as you'd think. I'd go out on a limb and guess that there are more Symbian developers (who use C++) as there are simply far more Nokia phones in circulation than any java-based phones.
Wikipedia tells me that RIM with its Java based BlackBerry has 20% of the smart phone market. Wasn't a new BBerry outselling the iphone the other day?
Java may not be the biggest language platform for embedded systems, but in the context of mobile phones it can only be "relatively small" if you actually meant "second largest".
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I have many co-workers that use Eclipse everyday, but that never got hold of point of the joke in the name.
"Eclipse" is when the Sun is blocked/hidden/occulted by something else. It makes IBM's reasons for funding Eclipse dead obvious. Turn one of your competitor's product niche into a commodity.
I second that. Eclipse can be a mess, downloading and installing it directly is, by far, the best option.
I have a bunch of co-workers using Eclipse and Ubuntu. Nobody even considers using the Ubuntu distributed version. The age of this bug should make it clear how much attention Eclipse gets in Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/81900
I was going to say that for Java development you are normally better off by downloading and setting up everything yourself, but I guess that is also true for all other programming languages. At least I did that also when developing with Python.
Interesting post. The most informative post about the state of OM I read in this thread so far.
However from your own description, you confirm that moko's window of opportunity is long gone.
You mention that 10 months ago, the phone was riddled with problems. Potential buyers (like me) were hearing these reports, and simply decided to wait for the G1. The G1 comes out with much superior hardware running stable software. In the mean time the OM guys were still fixing basic issues with their handset.
Another note, perhaps adding 3G would have cost that much when hardware design was made several years ago. The difference in price of my contract with a "free G1" or SIM only was â220.
The poster I was answering to was making a point that because OM was open source, the knowledge generated by the project would not die.
I made the point that most of the code will not be reused anywhere, and therefore should be considered dead. Perhaps I should have made that clearer.
In any case, there is code that although unmaintained, reaches a level of stability and usefulness that makes people continue using it. Synergy is an example of an unmaintained project that people keep using because there is no better alternative. I don't think that there is any code from OpenMoko that will be used like that outside of the Freerunner context.
How many competent developers do you expect to be interested in porting software to a phone that doesn't support 3G? How many months will you have to wait? How many months have you been waiting?
Honestly, I turned my G1 into a Android Developer Phone (it is possible). What am I missing?
Mind you, I can have Debian running on it already.
Wake up dude. It is easier to rewrite, than to read code.
I don't know much of OMoko. But from what I see from the mess they made, never actually getting the thing to work as a phone. I don't expect much of their code to be on a level of maturity that would grant the time investment to get acquainted to it.
My honest guess, as developer, is that the code produced by these guys that did not get merged into other active projects will just die.
There was a window of opportunity for the OpenMoko but this window is long gone. They failed to ship on time, and when they did it was a ultra-expensive **non-functional** toy.
I, for one, kept waiting to buy one. But the reports of non-working hardware, and the other news about 3 or 4 different frameworks being worked upon, each of which not working properly for SMS + Calls, completely put me off. Point is there are not that many enthusiasts willing/able to throw so much money in the risky bet that the Freerunner was. That thing was just too expensive, and did less (as far as phone is concerned) than a 40 euro Nokia.
Then Google releases Android: open enough and ***fully*** working. Is anybody surprised?
The fact that I believe that people are entitled to have access to culture.
The working model here in the NL shows that you can guarantee the right to access cultural works, and still have a working healthy (lucrative) market for artists and the like.
The easiest and cheapest way to have a ADP is to buy the regular locked G1. Root, flash the OS, and flash the boot-ROM. Effectively turning your G1 into a ADP.
Take a look at the Dream Development forum at XDA for more information.
FYI I would like to point to my fellow slashdotters that in many countries unlike the USA, it is explicitly spelled out as legal the downloading of copyrighted music or movies for _private_ _non-comercial_ use. In the Netherlands it is like this, and AFAIK also in Spain.
This is just to point out that it is possible to have sane laws, and that the world just doesn't come to end if you do.
What speed can you get out of t-mobile running through tethering on your phone?
I have a G1. You can still install the tethering app, but you just won't do it from the Android market.
The G1 has its downsides to a brand new Nokia. My gf has the the "5800 xpress music", which I find a _much_ better phone than the G1 in many respects, but the G1 is a much better hand-held computer. Not to mention that the integration with Google apps is much better...
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Google just announced a Native Code Development Kit for Android:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/06/introducing-android-15-ndk-release-1.html
There's little reason to believe that our ancestors, going quite far back, had any less inherent intellectual, cultural or social capacity than us. (Other than what we might have from superior nutrition, health, etc. See Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs and Steel for that...)
Jared's "The Third Chimpanzee" goes about how humans branched off and took a separate path from the "other chimps". In it he also goes speculates about how and when we took our great leap forward.
While Guns Germs and Steel seemed a more insightful book, The Third Chimpanzee goes exactly about the evolutionary differentiation that made us, how different (or not) we are from chimps and other mammals, and about the plausible evolutionary explanations for these differences.
Amazon reps got in contact with the guy.... They simply don't a have a clue of what happens, and may try to change policy. Worth a read...
http://www.geardiary.com/2009/06/21/kindlegate-confusion-abounds-regarding-kindle-download-policy/#more-34458
(I am not the GP). Many books I am interested in reading, don't have a decent "downloable version" on PirateBay. The lack of a decent non-DRM service does hurt.
I have a ebook reader (Hanlin v3), and I am also at point in my life where I have the surplus income to buy all books I want without problems. I could and would pay for books for it. The books I want are not in PirateBay, or just have crappy scanned copies.
Specially when going on vacations, I would really rather the Hanlin than 10 dead-tree books. Even if willing to download, and pay for the dead-trees, I can't have decent files for my e-reader.
My G1 tethers just fine...but not by default.
Unless you got an app I haven't seen, you had to get root, right?
You don't actually need root http://code.google.com/p/proxoid/
Honestly this is actually __much__ better than tethering through wifi because the root+wifi option EATS the phone battery in no time.
A stock unmodified G1 can install applications from different places other than the Android Market.
The application to do tethering on a stock un-rooted Android can be obtained here: http://code.google.com/p/proxoid/
Being tiny is also a major selling point.
The primary reasons for my GF to get one (MSI-Wind) was weight and battery life. The other choices were around 1000 euros, which was the price of a 13" laptop capable of handling Vista. But still the weight was higher, and battery life worse. Same for the ~1000euros Mac we saw.
http://www.thelocal.se/19928/20090607/
Among voters aged under 30, some 19 percent are believed to have cast a vote for the Pirate Party.
"They are the biggest party among young people, bigger than both the Social Democrats and the Moderates," said politics professor SÃren Holmberg.
As I was just telling my girlfriend, one way or another, it should be the first time the EP gets people who actually understand present day computer technology.
Seriously, someone needs to find who wrote the fucking memo that says you can have all the regressions you want as long as your applications use Qt4.
It's a new app, there is no such thing as a regression. Same applies to many other KDE4 progs.
If it is a _new app_ why they keep using the same names, and increasing the version numbers? Which is the computing standard for "new version of app X".
It works for Apple who used a vowel present in any language, instead of a fucking voiceless consonant that sounds horrible in almost any language.
Try saying _i_ 20 times in a row, now try saying _k'_. Your throat appreciates the difference.
This is exactly the problem I have. There is a minority of old public domain books, from which I can have a custom PDF generated for it, with my own choice of fonts and font size.
I tried downloading books from the web. Often the HTML based ones are so fragmented I can't read comfortably. The PDF based will have fonts I consider too small, and the zooming of the HanlinV3 is not very functional as you can't scroll to the side.
Will they be selling books with or withOUT DRM?
I own a Hanlin V3, and to a great extent stopped using it, as I can't get the books I want for it.
Oh, also... is it really necessary to buy a full-priced dev phone, or can the subsidized ones still be rooted with trivial ease?
Rooting the OS is trivial for US consumers. You have to install the older hackable firmwares, root, and then upgrade to "rooted" images (or the ADP image itself). Check the XDA forums on the "Dream" for the information on how to do that with the G1.
Java on embedded devices is relatively small, certainly not as widespread as you'd think. I'd go out on a limb and guess that there are more Symbian developers (who use C++) as there are simply far more Nokia phones in circulation than any java-based phones.
Wikipedia tells me that RIM with its Java based BlackBerry has 20% of the smart phone market. Wasn't a new BBerry outselling the iphone the other day?
Java may not be the biggest language platform for embedded systems, but in the context of mobile phones it can only be "relatively small" if you actually meant "second largest".
I have many co-workers that use Eclipse everyday, but that never got hold of point of the joke in the name.
"Eclipse" is when the Sun is blocked/hidden/occulted by something else. It makes IBM's reasons for funding Eclipse dead obvious. Turn one of your competitor's product niche into a commodity.
I second that. Eclipse can be a mess, downloading and installing it directly is, by far, the best option.
I have a bunch of co-workers using Eclipse and Ubuntu. Nobody even considers using the Ubuntu distributed version. The age of this bug should make it clear how much attention Eclipse gets in Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/81900
I was going to say that for Java development you are normally better off by downloading and setting up everything yourself, but I guess that is also true for all other programming languages. At least I did that also when developing with Python.
Interesting post. The most informative post about the state of OM I read in this thread so far.
However from your own description, you confirm that moko's window of opportunity is long gone.
You mention that 10 months ago, the phone was riddled with problems. Potential buyers (like me) were hearing these reports, and simply decided to wait for the G1. The G1 comes out with much superior hardware running stable software. In the mean time the OM guys were still fixing basic issues with their handset.
Another note, perhaps adding 3G would have cost that much when hardware design was made several years ago. The difference in price of my contract with a "free G1" or SIM only was â220.
I don't think that was a tautology.
The poster I was answering to was making a point that because OM was open source, the knowledge generated by the project would not die.
I made the point that most of the code will not be reused anywhere, and therefore should be considered dead. Perhaps I should have made that clearer.
In any case, there is code that although unmaintained, reaches a level of stability and usefulness that makes people continue using it. Synergy is an example of an unmaintained project that people keep using because there is no better alternative. I don't think that there is any code from OpenMoko that will be used like that outside of the Freerunner context.
How many competent developers do you expect to be interested in porting software to a phone that doesn't support 3G? How many months will you have to wait? How many months have you been waiting?
Honestly, I turned my G1 into a Android Developer Phone (it is possible). What am I missing?
Mind you, I can have Debian running on it already.
Wake up dude. It is easier to rewrite, than to read code.
I don't know much of OMoko. But from what I see from the mess they made, never actually getting the thing to work as a phone. I don't expect much of their code to be on a level of maturity that would grant the time investment to get acquainted to it.
My honest guess, as developer, is that the code produced by these guys that did not get merged into other active projects will just die.
There was a window of opportunity for the OpenMoko but this window is long gone. They failed to ship on time, and when they did it was a ultra-expensive **non-functional** toy.
I, for one, kept waiting to buy one. But the reports of non-working hardware, and the other news about 3 or 4 different frameworks being worked upon, each of which not working properly for SMS + Calls, completely put me off. Point is there are not that many enthusiasts willing/able to throw so much money in the risky bet that the Freerunner was. That thing was just too expensive, and did less (as far as phone is concerned) than a 40 euro Nokia.
Then Google releases Android: open enough and ***fully*** working. Is anybody surprised?
What makes you think that's sane?
The fact that I believe that people are entitled to have access to culture.
The working model here in the NL shows that you can guarantee the right to access cultural works, and still have a working healthy (lucrative) market for artists and the like.
The easiest and cheapest way to have a ADP is to buy the regular locked G1. Root, flash the OS, and flash the boot-ROM. Effectively turning your G1 into a ADP.
Take a look at the Dream Development forum at XDA for more information.
IMMV.
FYI I would like to point to my fellow slashdotters that in many countries unlike the USA, it is explicitly spelled out as legal the downloading of copyrighted music or movies for _private_ _non-comercial_ use. In the Netherlands it is like this, and AFAIK also in Spain.
This is just to point out that it is possible to have sane laws, and that the world just doesn't come to end if you do.
What speed can you get out of t-mobile running through tethering on your phone?
I have a G1. You can still install the tethering app, but you just won't do it from the Android market.
The G1 has its downsides to a brand new Nokia. My gf has the the "5800 xpress music", which I find a _much_ better phone than the G1 in many respects, but the G1 is a much better hand-held computer. Not to mention that the integration with Google apps is much better...