anyone who's run ethereal/gtk+ on win32 knows how goofy and slow it looks compared to the rest of the desktop, and that is, in essence what linux desktop users see all the time.
Limwire just a Gnutella client. there is nothing new here except a new logo.. even the app looks excactly the same.
btw, I found the article amazing shallow incomplete and lacking in any technical merit, it appeared that the author copy and pasted the PR release then added a sentence or two about what his 30 second impression was.
For one FreeNet was not mentioned, likely because the author was unable to install it (it takes a little more then double clicking on a icon). Second he seemed in the dark about the level of decentralization that many of the apps had, for instance eDonkey2000 *IS* decentralized, the servers are user run, eDonkey themselves do not list anything. He failed to mention that FastTrack (aka Morpheus, Kazza) also feature multiplexed downloads like eDonkey2000. No mention of the failings of the Gnutella network, the progress Bearshare and Limewire are making to improve it...
Bah, the list goes on. The really dishearting part is interest in P2P (gaud i hate that term) has faded out when the rest of the internet boom; Very disappointing, The tech can be used for a lot more then sharing britney spears albums! It can be could also be used for file mirrors, (aka wolfinstien off eDonkey = fast fuckin download), instant messaging, web hosting and its approaching a way to get scalable bandwidth for any internet application, soon you'll see.
I shouldn't respond to such a cowardly attack... but anyway.
A: I'm only about 50% sure that killing/scaring/generally pissing more people off is the best action. I logically see this as an un-fightable war much like the war on drugs instantiated by the Reagan administration.
But to explain my comment, as an American I very much want to see retaliation, it's illogical irrational and emotional but it's (more then anything) what I want to see.
B: to echo millions; I before Tuesday I was not a patriotic person, I was cynical and felt no connection to the rest of the county. Now I am ready to fight, with a gun for America.
I agree, it pisses no-one off more then to post a passionate story only to get modded to "-1 Offtopic" because the inane story was about some stupid tech junk no one at this time honestly cares about.
Admit it, everything else is just a diversion so we won't/don't think about whets going on, but it is going on and we as humans in disaster need to talk about it.
1. goto drudgereport.com scan for new news
2. goto cnn.com, then msbnc.com for new news
3. goto Slashdot.org and shacknews.com for new news
4. Get frustrated that there is no new news and turn on the (freakin) tv.
5. Sit in front of the tube, clicker in hand looking for the news I want.
6. Get annoyed that I'm not hearing about shit blowing up in the middle east. 7. goto 1.
She stayed up to wake me up for my weekly 9:30 meeting (i didn't sleep until 3am). At about 8:30 CST she woke me up and told me
"A plane just crashed into one of the twin towers"
i'm like, "Whhaat?" (just waking up w/ no sleep)
she turns on _any_channel_ on the little tv on top of my dresser, which only gets bad reception of network channels. I saw the two building in flames, i just laid there stunned. about 5 min latter we got news that the pentagon was hit as well. 30 min latter we saw the first building fall, my girl friend shoke in fear.
OO design is a pretty vague term, as it means different things to different people. However one concept that is proven to work for backwards compatibility is component design as found in COM and other component based frameworks.
For those who are not familiar with the concept you don't deal with objects per say, instead you deal with interfaces to implementations of objects.
COM does it a little differently but the basics are there. You request an implementation to an interface, not the object itself. The way this works for different versions is that instead of IID_ICAT you can have IID_ICAT2 and ICat2 interfaces without having to break your old ICat clients. The implementation could even share much of the old code.
Admittedly it's not the most elegant design, but it works in the sense that you're not breaking old clients and still have room to support new interfaces.
I used to work as Microsoft, MS Press and MS Research. While at research I needed to hack IE so it would forget about ActiveX security, I managed to reckon the registry settings but still had some questions.
The place to ask questions to other developers internally is via Outlooks groups (like usenet), it's surprising there isn't a better channel to converse with other Microsoft developers, maybe there is, but that's all I knew about. Anyway, so I posted a question to the IE-dev group about my problem. The response was surprising, the lead PM of IE started flaming me, telling me about how Microsoft can not have any more exploits in IE, how I my manager would be informed etc..
I guess I should have mentioned that what I was doing was only going to go out to a few select terminal ill users.
The point I'm trying to make is that Microsoft is a large company made up many small groups which don't necessarily talk to each other, I'm not saying this in there defense, but it helps explain how so many problems can arise over and over again. Even if I had just went ahead and implemented this IE hack into something major I don't who would have held me accountable, as far as I know software does not need to go through a standard security audit, each group has there own QA which will vary wildly.
the TOS for most broadband service says you can't run servers. Even my speakeasy static IP service in seattle said i'm not allowed to run a server. in reality they don't care/check.
I HAVE NO limitations on what I can/can't do.
I RUN a run sweet unix based servers at home
I HAVE sweet upload capability that won't hinder my websites (256kb upstream)
Ok, i don't have a static IP, but i do have dyndns, which works fine.
i live in the college district of Austin, i guess college students are too busy studying or fucking to suck up the pipe. Up north around the tech area I hear it can get pretty slow.
Nov 15: Speakeasy puts in order with southwestern bell
Dec 25: Southwestern bell hooks up the loop, but does it wrong.
Jan 15: Southwestern bell hooks up loop correctly.
Jan 25: some dude comes to my house to install stuff, but can't get it working becaues my house was built around the 1850's or some such crap. Tells me i -might- be able to get DSL but it requires sacraficeing a chicken around the next full moon, and thats not for another 15 days!!
Jan 26: I call about Road Runner cable, after ONE ring a person answers the phone and tells me I can have a STUPID FAST connect TOMMOROW.
Jan 27t: I get my cable modem with NO PROBLEMS, and bitchin 250k sec d/l speeds for 50 bucks a month. w00t!
from the home page...
The DOE's Accelerated Strategic Computing Initiative (ASCI) is building simulation capabilities to predict performance, safety, and manufacturability of U.S. nuclear weapons systems. The program has several mandates, among them:
Determine nuclear weapons' behavior upon deployment using high-resolution, three-dimensional calculations and high-fidelity physical models.
Monitor possible accident scenarios and changes to stockpiled weapons caused by the aging process and variations in the manufacturing of replacement parts.
Extend the lifetime of existing nuclear weapons systems into the indefinite future.
Reduce the overall uncertainty associated with the costs and risks of weapons testing.
Don't htey have anything better to do with all that power?
Bahh, I just woke up and it's to early for me to post.
About 2 years ago I started getting interested in genetic programming, all one had to do was define the problem well enough give the computers the right pieces and boom you have the next perfect speech to text engine, or Pac-man ghost logic.
The first think you'll realize when you get into this field is that there are two type of genetic programming; "Genetic Algorithms" and "Genetic Programming". The first is really just defining an answer set, like trying to re-arrange a DNA strand so it fits a certain criteria, the latter is actually having the computer create some "code" or an actual algorithm. Naturally I was more interested in "Genetic Programming".
The first thing I set out my test program to do was find an algorithm to find prime numbers, just a little test before I moved on to bigger and better things (like Pac-man ghost logic). I plugged in a few operations for the GP to work with, Add, Sub, Mul, Dev, Mod etc.. and gave it a fitness saying "your fit if you have an algorithm that given N you return Nth prime number". Well this didn't work.
The GP would come up with the most retarded algorithms; long lines of Add/Sub etc.. Some of them worked moderately well, all could have been reduced to a more finite set. Either way it wasn't going to work. The problem was that I needed to give the GP better tools then basic arithmetic, it needed for loops, if branches, variables! Maybe if I could figure out how to give the GP the right set of tools, and defined the problem we'll enough it could have gotten further.
You'll find GP successful in a limited range of problems. This is defined by the tools you can give them to work with, and by how well you can grade its "fitness. Fitness becomes very limited when the user most be evolved, imagine trying to have a GP come up with a good text to speech, ever time a new "generation" of code was produced you could have to personally grade the static garble it came out with.
A good example of a decentralized p2p network is FastTrack; you'll find FastTrack in some of the newer p2p software like Morpheus and Kazza. FastTrack extends what the Gnutella developers have been trying to do.
1. It incorporates SuperNodes automatically. A SuperNode is a computer with the capacity to host serial other clients. Which solves the weakest-link problem with the Gnutella network; an example would be a user with a 56k connection having to relay all PING/PONG/QUERY messages for its section of the network. It also solves the problem of slow searches.
2. It uses a hashing scheme to identify files, this allows for the software to positively identify identical files for simultaneous downloads.
3. It's not file specific. Users could share anything. Or course he network is rampant with copyrighted software, pornographic material and mp3's. But at least it's not designed to do that - it's just used for that.
The central problem with FastTrack isn't the technology but in how's it's marketed. FastTrack license its technology to be marked by third party developers, these third partly developers market as the next napster. To manage there user base they have established a login system which breaks the decentralized nature of the network.
Thankfully the gnutella scene has been working on incorporating these features into the gnutella network. Namely the flagship gnutella companies, BearShare and Limewire.
Freenet IMO is broken except for the most fanatic of freedom fighters. The central problem with Freenet is its speed, which I believe is inherently broken. When a user begins a transfer of a file over the Freenet network it is copied to every node (space abiding) along the path. This is to enforce redundancy, and is central to the anonymous nature of the Freenet network as it allows users to be unaware of what they are storing; it also has a weakest link problem in that a hop from the source might be very slow. In theory if a file is popular enough it will always be close, however we have yet to see that happen.
The other problem with Freenet is that it is un-searchable; users are required to KNOW what they are looking for. I don't deem this is a death blow as other services could get around this, an indexing service for example
After reading the artical i installed gater, after filling out my lifes story and fake credit card info i was left with little gater eye's peering from my system tray.
The little eye's creeped me out so i uninstalled it, the little gater's gone, right now all i have is
The Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA") prohibits the circumvention of "a technological protection measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title." 17 U.S.C. * 1201(a)(1)(A). As previously noted, Live365.com has designed its web site and related software to ensure that the streaming music it provides on its Internet radio stations complies with the provisions pertaining to the statutory license to publicly perform sound recordings under the Copyright Act. In so doing, Live365.com has taken precautions to preclude users from recording or storing transmissions of its Internet broadcasts. The player software designed to be used with Live365.com does not permit recording and, in fact, is designed to prevent it.
In contravention of this precaution, you have created software which enables users to store these broadcasts. This has circumvented a "technological measure" which "effectively controls access" to copyrighted works. See RealNetworks, Inc. v. Streambox, Inc., No. C99-2070P, 2000 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 1889, at *18-19 (W.D. Wash. Jan. 18, 2000). Such manipulation of Live365's protective measures constitutes a violation of the provisions of the DMCA.
Ya, it's a load of bullshit, but unless you can afford to defend it you SoL.
Slashdot Mirror
very well put Florian, good points.
anyone who's run ethereal/gtk+ on win32 knows how goofy and slow it looks compared to the rest of the desktop, and that is, in essence what linux desktop users see all the time.
-Jon
SwapNut is Limewire + new marketing.
Limwire just a Gnutella client. there is nothing new here except a new logo.. even the app looks excactly the same.
btw, I found the article amazing shallow incomplete and lacking in any technical merit, it appeared that the author copy and pasted the PR release then added a sentence or two about what his 30 second impression was.
For one FreeNet was not mentioned, likely because the author was unable to install it (it takes a little more then double clicking on a icon). Second he seemed in the dark about the level of decentralization that many of the apps had, for instance eDonkey2000 *IS* decentralized, the servers are user run, eDonkey themselves do not list anything. He failed to mention that FastTrack (aka Morpheus, Kazza) also feature multiplexed downloads like eDonkey2000. No mention of the failings of the Gnutella network, the progress Bearshare and Limewire are making to improve it...
Bah, the list goes on. The really dishearting part is interest in P2P (gaud i hate that term) has faded out when the rest of the internet boom; Very disappointing, The tech can be used for a lot more then sharing britney spears albums! It can be could also be used for file mirrors, (aka wolfinstien off eDonkey = fast fuckin download), instant messaging, web hosting and its approaching a way to get scalable bandwidth for any internet application, soon you'll see.
-Jon
you might want to try using The All Seeing Eye to find a game.
The in-game server list seems to be broken/hammered right now.
-Jon
http://www.pcwholesalers.net/WolfMPTEST0915.exe
everyone post more. this is the only good one icould find.
I shouldn't respond to such a cowardly attack... but anyway.
A: I'm only about 50% sure that killing/scaring/generally pissing more people off is the best action. I logically see this as an un-fightable war much like the war on drugs instantiated by the Reagan administration.
But to explain my comment, as an American I very much want to see retaliation, it's illogical irrational and emotional but it's (more then anything) what I want to see.
B: to echo millions; I before Tuesday I was not a patriotic person, I was cynical and felt no connection to the rest of the county. Now I am ready to fight, with a gun for America.
-Jon
I agree, it pisses no-one off more then to post a passionate story only to get modded to "-1 Offtopic" because the inane story was about some stupid tech junk no one at this time honestly cares about.
Admit it, everything else is just a diversion so we won't/don't think about whets going on, but it is going on and we as humans in disaster need to talk about it.
The method of my madness.
1. goto drudgereport.com scan for new news
2. goto cnn.com, then msbnc.com for new news
3. goto Slashdot.org and shacknews.com for new news
4. Get frustrated that there is no new news and turn on the (freakin) tv.
5. Sit in front of the tube, clicker in hand looking for the news I want.
6. Get annoyed that I'm not hearing about shit blowing up in the middle east.
7. goto 1.
yes, i'm going nuts.
-Jon
maybe it's just me, but i don't think news about harddrives is very important at that moment.
-Jon
She stayed up to wake me up for my weekly 9:30 meeting (i didn't sleep until 3am). At about 8:30 CST she woke me up and told me
"A plane just crashed into one of the twin towers"
i'm like, "Whhaat?" (just waking up w/ no sleep)
she turns on _any_channel_ on the little tv on top of my dresser, which only gets bad reception of network channels. I saw the two building in flames, i just laid there stunned. about 5 min latter we got news that the pentagon was hit as well. 30 min latter we saw the first building fall, my girl friend shoke in fear.
-
OO design is a pretty vague term, as it means different things to different people. However one concept that is proven to work for backwards compatibility is component design as found in COM and other component based frameworks.
For those who are not familiar with the concept you don't deal with objects per say, instead you deal with interfaces to implementations of objects.
For example
ICat *pCat = NULL;
pCat = MakeCat(IID_ICAT);
pCat->Meow();
delete pCat
COM does it a little differently but the basics are there. You request an implementation to an interface, not the object itself. The way this works for different versions is that instead of IID_ICAT you can have IID_ICAT2 and ICat2 interfaces without having to break your old ICat clients. The implementation could even share much of the old code.
For example:
ICat2 *pCat = NULL;
pCat = MakeCat(IID_ICAT2);
pCat->MeowLoudly();
delete pCat
Admittedly it's not the most elegant design, but it works in the sense that you're not breaking old clients and still have room to support new interfaces.
-Jon
I used to work as Microsoft, MS Press and MS Research. While at research I needed to hack IE so it would forget about ActiveX security, I managed to reckon the registry settings but still had some questions.
The place to ask questions to other developers internally is via Outlooks groups (like usenet), it's surprising there isn't a better channel to converse with other Microsoft developers, maybe there is, but that's all I knew about. Anyway, so I posted a question to the IE-dev group about my problem. The response was surprising, the lead PM of IE started flaming me, telling me about how Microsoft can not have any more exploits in IE, how I my manager would be informed etc..
I guess I should have mentioned that what I was doing was only going to go out to a few select terminal ill users.
The point I'm trying to make is that Microsoft is a large company made up many small groups which don't necessarily talk to each other, I'm not saying this in there defense, but it helps explain how so many problems can arise over and over again. Even if I had just went ahead and implemented this IE hack into something major I don't who would have held me accountable, as far as I know software does not need to go through a standard security audit, each group has there own QA which will vary wildly.
-Jon
I HAVE NO limitations on what I can/can't do.
I RUN a run sweet unix based servers at home
I HAVE sweet upload capability that won't hinder my websites (256kb upstream)
Ok, i don't have a static IP, but i do have dyndns, which works fine.
I HAVE NO NO BLOCKED PORTS
Oh yeah, BTW, STOP THE FUCKING FUD
-Jon
i live in the college district of Austin, i guess college students are too busy studying or fucking to suck up the pipe. Up north around the tech area I hear it can get pretty slow.
http://www.fuckedcompany.com/images/developers.mpe g
Nov 1: Move to Austin from Seattle.
Nov 2: Call speakeasy to request DSL
Nov 3: Get off the phone with speakeasy.
Nov 15: Speakeasy puts in order with southwestern bell
Dec 25: Southwestern bell hooks up the loop, but does it wrong.
Jan 15: Southwestern bell hooks up loop correctly.
Jan 25: some dude comes to my house to install stuff, but can't get it working becaues my house was built around the 1850's or some such crap. Tells me i -might- be able to get DSL but it requires sacraficeing a chicken around the next full moon, and thats not for another 15 days!!
Jan 26: I call about Road Runner cable, after ONE ring a person answers the phone and tells me I can have a STUPID FAST connect TOMMOROW.
Jan 27t: I get my cable modem with NO PROBLEMS, and bitchin 250k sec d/l speeds for 50 bucks a month. w00t!
-Jon
The DOE's Accelerated Strategic Computing Initiative (ASCI) is building simulation capabilities to predict performance, safety, and manufacturability of U.S. nuclear weapons systems. The program has several mandates, among them:
Determine nuclear weapons' behavior upon deployment using high-resolution, three-dimensional calculations and high-fidelity physical models.
Monitor possible accident scenarios and changes to stockpiled weapons caused by the aging process and variations in the manufacturing of replacement parts.
Extend the lifetime of existing nuclear weapons systems into the indefinite future.
Reduce the overall uncertainty associated with the costs and risks of weapons testing.
Don't htey have anything better to do with all that power?
I just installed Win2k and Redhat 7.2. Both bootable cdroms, both on mix match newish machines:
From first POST to "installed":
Linux: 35 min
Win2k: 45 min
Time to get drivers up to speed.
Linux: 0 min (had all my stuff)
Win2k: 25 min (nvidia, creative)
Time to get Quake3 running
Linux: 5 hours (still doesn't work right)
Win2k: 10 min
Time to get my RAID ATA-100 card working
Linux: 0 (it doesn't work)
Win2k: did it at boot, only took 2 min
-Jon
true, thats a better way, relize i was just trying to show an example of how you couldn't use GP for something.
maybe text to speach isn't a good example.
thanks,
-Jon
Bahh, I just woke up and it's to early for me to post.
About 2 years ago I started getting interested in genetic programming, all one had to do was define the problem well enough give the computers the right pieces and boom you have the next perfect speech to text engine, or Pac-man ghost logic.
The first think you'll realize when you get into this field is that there are two type of genetic programming; "Genetic Algorithms" and "Genetic Programming". The first is really just defining an answer set, like trying to re-arrange a DNA strand so it fits a certain criteria, the latter is actually having the computer create some "code" or an actual algorithm. Naturally I was more interested in "Genetic Programming".
The first thing I set out my test program to do was find an algorithm to find prime numbers, just a little test before I moved on to bigger and better things (like Pac-man ghost logic). I plugged in a few operations for the GP to work with, Add, Sub, Mul, Dev, Mod etc.. and gave it a fitness saying "your fit if you have an algorithm that given N you return Nth prime number". Well this didn't work.
The GP would come up with the most retarded algorithms; long lines of Add/Sub etc.. Some of them worked moderately well, all could have been reduced to a more finite set. Either way it wasn't going to work. The problem was that I needed to give the GP better tools then basic arithmetic, it needed for loops, if branches, variables! Maybe if I could figure out how to give the GP the right set of tools, and defined the problem we'll enough it could have gotten further.
You'll find GP successful in a limited range of problems. This is defined by the tools you can give them to work with, and by how well you can grade its "fitness. Fitness becomes very limited when the user most be evolved, imagine trying to have a GP come up with a good text to speech, ever time a new "generation" of code was produced you could have to personally grade the static garble it came out with.
-Jon
A good example of a decentralized p2p network is FastTrack; you'll find FastTrack in some of the newer p2p software like Morpheus and Kazza. FastTrack extends what the Gnutella developers have been trying to do.
1. It incorporates SuperNodes automatically. A SuperNode is a computer with the capacity to host serial other clients. Which solves the weakest-link problem with the Gnutella network; an example would be a user with a 56k connection having to relay all PING/PONG/QUERY messages for its section of the network. It also solves the problem of slow searches.
2. It uses a hashing scheme to identify files, this allows for the software to positively identify identical files for simultaneous downloads.
3. It's not file specific. Users could share anything. Or course he network is rampant with copyrighted software, pornographic material and mp3's. But at least it's not designed to do that - it's just used for that.
The central problem with FastTrack isn't the technology but in how's it's marketed. FastTrack license its technology to be marked by third party developers, these third partly developers market as the next napster. To manage there user base they have established a login system which breaks the decentralized nature of the network.
Thankfully the gnutella scene has been working on incorporating these features into the gnutella network. Namely the flagship gnutella companies, BearShare and Limewire.
Freenet IMO is broken except for the most fanatic of freedom fighters. The central problem with Freenet is its speed, which I believe is inherently broken. When a user begins a transfer of a file over the Freenet network it is copied to every node (space abiding) along the path. This is to enforce redundancy, and is central to the anonymous nature of the Freenet network as it allows users to be unaware of what they are storing; it also has a weakest link problem in that a hop from the source might be very slow. In theory if a file is popular enough it will always be close, however we have yet to see that happen.
The other problem with Freenet is that it is un-searchable; users are required to KNOW what they are looking for. I don't deem this is a death blow as other services could get around this, an indexing service for example
Some links that you might find helpful:
FastTrack
BearShare
Limewire
Gnutella Developer Forum @ Yahoo
MusicCity's Morpheus
Freenet
-Jon
he's 0x003F years old.
or 63 for the hexaphobic
-Jon
After reading the artical i installed gater, after filling out my lifes story and fake credit card info i was left with little gater eye's peering from my system tray.
The little eye's creeped me out so i uninstalled it, the little gater's gone, right now all i have is
Winamp's Agent
Download Accelerator
Geoscope Banner Filter
Volume control
MSN Instant Messenger (freakin Brian)
Aol Instant Messenger (most everyone)
Streamripper for Winamp.
-Jon
for instance i got this a few months ago because my program ripped live365.com streams.
The Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA") prohibits the circumvention of "a technological protection measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title." 17 U.S.C. * 1201(a)(1)(A). As previously noted, Live365.com has designed its web site and related software to ensure that the streaming music it provides on its Internet radio stations complies with the provisions pertaining to the statutory license to publicly perform sound recordings under the Copyright Act. In so doing, Live365.com has taken precautions to preclude users from recording or storing transmissions of its Internet broadcasts. The player software designed to be used with Live365.com does not permit recording and, in fact, is designed to prevent it.
In contravention of this precaution, you have created software which enables users to store these broadcasts. This has circumvented a "technological measure" which "effectively controls access" to copyrighted works. See RealNetworks, Inc. v. Streambox, Inc., No. C99-2070P, 2000 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 1889, at *18-19 (W.D. Wash. Jan. 18, 2000). Such manipulation of Live365's protective measures constitutes a violation of the provisions of the DMCA.
Ya, it's a load of bullshit, but unless you can afford to defend it you SoL.
-Jon
thanks for the advice, might save me quite a bit.
of course i'm also gonna get a iBook, so maybe not, hehe.
-Jon
DAMIT! that JUST added that, i swear!