I know this post is going to be buried but I'll say it anyway:
As someone who lived in Africa I can tell you first hand how nasty those flies are. Their huge and they hurt when they bite you. Fortunatly I was vaccinated against some of the nasty diseases they carry such as Yellow Fever and African Sleeping Sickness. Unfortunatly most of the population of Africa is too poor to even know what a vaccine is much less afford one. So any idea to get rid of the flies is a good one.
I'm ashamed by the/. FUD on this one. These flies aren't 'nuclear' or 'radioactive'. They've been steralized (by radiation) the idea being that there will be so many sterile flies that populations of flies will decrease as ones 'in the wild' mate with the sterile ones and don't produce offspring.
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Yeah I know but I guess I'm masicistic because I get some sort of sick enjoyment from reading them
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There are lots of different people on the Internet. Those people use it for the things they are interested in.
Some people use it for sex.
I wish I could mod down JonKatz: Offtopic, Redundant and Stupid.
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Hey Google! Why not make the agreement state that all entries go under the GPL?
While for the most part I agree with your statements Microsoft's growth in the desktop market is slowing because they simply have no one left to sell to. That doesn't mean that Linux couldn't make inroads if it can be proven better or if users know about it in the first place.
But this post is instant flamebait.... To prove that I'm not just a Linux zealot out for flames because I'm a l337 h@x0r and Windoze sucks, I'll go over your post and tell you exactly why you are wrong.
Applications such as StarOffice and KOffice are high on glitz and glamour, but lack the backend to fulfil this stability requirement. While Corel and Microsoft focus on ensuring their system works before incorporating new "features,"
Hahahaahahaha... what planet are you from? Granted I don't use KOffice so I don't really know much about it but I've been using StarOffice 5.1 for 2 years. I've used to to create countless documents, spreadsheets, presentations, etc. In that time the program has only had a crash once and it was due to a faulty harddrive. As far as look and feel its much like Word, I didn't have to have retraining to use it. The only drawback in the monolithic desktop idea they came up with but that will be gone in version 6. Compare that with MS Office. Office 2000 can't save Word 97 or RTF documents without mungling the spacing and the quotes. Its nicely scriptable for all the virus writers out there. Excel 97 can't open Excel files older than version 6. I had a client the other day who gave me a spreadsheet in Excel 5. If I hadn't had StarOffice I would have been screwed. Features and Glitz.... I guess if the word processor works its a feature these days.
On your training point see above. Most apps are so similar a monkey could find their way around. Users of Linux don't have to know how to use an Xterm anymore. Just like they don't have to use the command prompt in Windows. Have you every tried Mandrake 8.1? Very nice system, things are consistant and you don't have to go into a xterm to use your office documents or web browser. Some configuration still should be done on the command line but that's for an admin. (how many windoze users do you know that install their own PCI cards??? I'm talking grandmas and secretarys)
In the end, the Linux kernel is maintained by a group of hobbyists. As with the applications, these hobbyists put a large amount of time into programming glitz and glamour features into the kernel, and neglect important functions
Again... what??? The VM issue is being worked out IBM is putting Linux on Mainframes!!! They must think there is some good code in there. I see the kernel developers constantly adding new support for all kinds of new hardware, coming out with new versions that fix all sorts of small problems. Do you see MS patching and fixing their bugs so quickly? I didn't think so. Alan and Linus et. al. seem to be pretty humble guys, they do this for fun and they do a very good job and making an easy to use (yes it is easy people just need to learn its different) stable, secure operating system. And on top of that if you don't like the SMP features or the VM then write your own and quit complaining.
This is a great idea. One that I've been saying for a long time. As mentioned by other posters linux doesn't have a marketing dept, its not a corporation, bla bla bla....
Why not a open source marketing department? If we could get a significant number of people to contribute to a fund. (With some sponsership of one or more of the Linux corps, Redhat, IBM, Mandrake etc.) and every year release ads in magazines and TV, radio, billboards, dispelling myths and giving MS a run for the marketing crown. It can be done. But not until we quite whining that it can't.
I want the gov to pass a law like that, Linux has 30% of the server market share. Having to remove all of that is going to be noticeable. The fallout from such an act should be noticeable enough for the gov to reverse such a stupid decsion and think twice about simply listening to the corps.
I'll believe it when I see it. People have been saying that at the end of every season for almost as long as its been going. I agree that its bad but die?... I don't know.
I develop web applications in a small town. My boss comes to me and gives me specs on some new project. I look over them and give him a quote, say 40 hours, he then proceeds to laugh and say that the client will never pay that much for the app. So we spend an afternoon looking at what we can cut, trying to reuse code, maybe take out a feature or two here and there and come up with half the quote (20 hours) which I tell my boss we can make unless problems arise.
As with all development, problems arise, the client complains about X feature stuff gets redone, the code ends up being a huge mess and usually takes 1 and a half times the original quote.(60 hours). Yet my boss still doesn't figure it out. Why? Probably because his boss keeps breathing down his neck to cut development times as well.
What's worse is when a sales person or my boss talks to a client and gets them to agree on a list of features and the time it takes to develop before even consulting me. Last month a client wanted a content managment system for a website, discussion forums, polls, etc. Because of certain features it couldn't just be downloaded and I ended up just writing it. The client was charged 25 hours, it took closer to 80.
Mods on CRACK! My original post is flamebait, maybe with a slight bit of troll. It is not offtopic. I even quoted the article! This post however is a perfect example of being offtopic:)
Long live Dimitry... oh wait I mean Long live Jon!
I pity your poor soul, the U I graduated from did the same thing, I'm a perl/mysql developer. My proffesional opinion is that blackboard a collection of cgi scripts written by monkeys, or Matt Wright ala Matt's script archive.
Internal Server Error when you don't follow instructions. It was comical to break it for my profs:)...
"Forget that it may be problematic to extradite the individual, or that they may be young, or claim to be doing 'research.' We need to catch them, and place them in a position whereby they are seen for what they are -- a terrorist," Cooper said. "The cost to our businesses, not to mention our way of life, is simply too high to not pursue these individuals."
This is the sort of thing that really pisses me off. Not to say that virus writers don't do damage or even that they are not criminals but how can you compare a computer glitch to killing 3000+ people? These virus writers are kids with too much time on their hands, they aren't terrorists! The solution isn't to toss them in jail or throw away the key, the solution is to get them to do something useful with their skills and then to use products that don't have so many security problems. </rant>
I do not understand why a majority of people on/. are so quick to flame Perl. If you don't like it don't use it but don't flame people who do. I love Perl. As far is being hard to read or understand well I think that's people who have never tried. When I started coding Perl I was a complete newbie. I'd done a little C and a bit of Basic and I wanted to learn how to right CGI scripts. Someone showed me Perl and inside a week I was writting (badly but still writting) a message board. It took me weeks, it was horrid but it worked. I know very few people who can do that in any other language. In fact it was Perl that got me to move away from the darkside of Windows (this was before ActiveState made Perl on Windows a more manageable beast).
Try it before you knock it. Give it a chance. If you don't like it then use the tool you like but don't keep spreading flames and lies about it. Saying its only good for 500 line programs or that its always unmaintainable or it can't be used by teams simply isn't true. And ANY language can have all of those attributes.
Perl also has a great community that I've not seen in other languages. Don't know how to do something, ask Perlmonks. Those guys are even one of the few places where newbies can come. Very rarely do I even see someone screaming RTFM at them. Most of the time you just get your question answered and answered fast. There are other places that aren't so kind.
"We easily sent hundreds of these letters over the past year," he said. Indeed, he wondered why this was considered newsworthy at all, as "many organizations do this."
And many organizations are freaking retarded too.
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Hello! When people link to you its like free advertising... hmmm maybe if we allow people to link to our site they might actually find it.
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That's the problem, many PHB's don't know it because M$oft is always touting the whole "The system costs less but then you have to pay more support!" What we really need to do is tell the world that most people still need a high payed system admin for windoze machines as well as linux.
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It can be both and that's the point that most people miss. The GPL doesn't say you can't sell the software, it just says that you have to provide the source and that it can be copied.
The copying issue is the problem and what I would love to see is a free license with the following restrictions:
Source must be open (like GPL)
The code or the program can be copied and given away but it can't be charged for or mass produced without compensating the original author or getting his/her consent
Derivative works could be created but should be shown to the original author for a review before it can be mass produced or sold this would keep people from changing one line of code and calling it their own.
If the original author cannot be found (and the creator of the derivative work has tried in good faith to find them), no longer supports the project and has not appointed another person to do so (i.e. the project is dead) then the work becomes public domain. This would keep people committed to their projects or finding others who would be.
I believe something like this would go a long way to making sure that developers get their due, and can earn a living by charging for software but other developers/users can make copies, share with friends, or learn from the code.
The difference here is that Afghani women have no other recourse than to break the law. We do have the right to vote.
Oddly enough less than 50% of registered voters actually excersise their right to do so. If someone could convince all these people to support a cause we could easily get rid of all the laws we love to hate and probably the corporations that right them.
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I know this post is going to be buried but I'll say it anyway:
/. FUD on this one. These flies aren't 'nuclear' or 'radioactive'. They've been steralized (by radiation) the idea being that there will be so many sterile flies that populations of flies will decrease as ones 'in the wild' mate with the sterile ones and don't produce offspring.
As someone who lived in Africa I can tell you first hand how nasty those flies are. Their huge and they hurt when they bite you. Fortunatly I was vaccinated against some of the nasty diseases they carry such as Yellow Fever and African Sleeping Sickness. Unfortunatly most of the population of Africa is too poor to even know what a vaccine is much less afford one. So any idea to get rid of the flies is a good one.
I'm ashamed by the
Yeah I know but I guess I'm masicistic because I get some sort of sick enjoyment from reading them
There are lots of different people on the Internet. Those people use it for the things they are interested in.
Some people use it for sex.
I wish I could mod down JonKatz: Offtopic, Redundant and Stupid.
Hey Google! Why not make the agreement state that all entries go under the GPL?
While for the most part I agree with your statements Microsoft's growth in the desktop market is slowing because they simply have no one left to sell to. That doesn't mean that Linux couldn't make inroads if it can be proven better or if users know about it in the first place.
Hahahaahahaha... what planet are you from? Granted I don't use KOffice so I don't really know much about it but I've been using StarOffice 5.1 for 2 years. I've used to to create countless documents, spreadsheets, presentations, etc. In that time the program has only had a crash once and it was due to a faulty harddrive. As far as look and feel its much like Word, I didn't have to have retraining to use it. The only drawback in the monolithic desktop idea they came up with but that will be gone in version 6. Compare that with MS Office. Office 2000 can't save Word 97 or RTF documents without mungling the spacing and the quotes. Its nicely scriptable for all the virus writers out there. Excel 97 can't open Excel files older than version 6. I had a client the other day who gave me a spreadsheet in Excel 5. If I hadn't had StarOffice I would have been screwed. Features and Glitz
On your training point see above. Most apps are so similar a monkey could find their way around. Users of Linux don't have to know how to use an Xterm anymore. Just like they don't have to use the command prompt in Windows. Have you every tried Mandrake 8.1? Very nice system, things are consistant and you don't have to go into a xterm to use your office documents or web browser. Some configuration still should be done on the command line but that's for an admin. (how many windoze users do you know that install their own PCI cards??? I'm talking grandmas and secretarys)
Again... what??? The VM issue is being worked out IBM is putting Linux on Mainframes!!! They must think there is some good code in there. I see the kernel developers constantly adding new support for all kinds of new hardware, coming out with new versions that fix all sorts of small problems. Do you see MS patching and fixing their bugs so quickly? I didn't think so. Alan and Linus et. al. seem to be pretty humble guys, they do this for fun and they do a very good job and making an easy to use (yes it is easy people just need to learn its different) stable, secure operating system. And on top of that if you don't like the SMP features or the VM then write your own and quit complaining.
This is a great idea. One that I've been saying for a long time. As mentioned by other posters linux doesn't have a marketing dept, its not a corporation, bla bla bla....
Why not a open source marketing department? If we could get a significant number of people to contribute to a fund. (With some sponsership of one or more of the Linux corps, Redhat, IBM, Mandrake etc.) and every year release ads in magazines and TV, radio, billboards, dispelling myths and giving MS a run for the marketing crown. It can be done. But not until we quite whining that it can't.
I want the gov to pass a law like that, Linux has 30% of the server market share. Having to remove all of that is going to be noticeable. The fallout from such an act should be noticeable enough for the gov to reverse such a stupid decsion and think twice about simply listening to the corps.
I'll believe it when I see it. People have been saying that at the end of every season for almost as long as its been going. I agree that its bad but die?... I don't know.
Hehe, yeah just imagine if one got into some geeks stomach.
"Sir robot 1,344,533 is reporting that the whole ocean has turned to Mountain Dew!"
is PHBs who want the software done yesterday.
I develop web applications in a small town. My boss comes to me and gives me specs on some new project. I look over them and give him a quote, say 40 hours, he then proceeds to laugh and say that the client will never pay that much for the app. So we spend an afternoon looking at what we can cut, trying to reuse code, maybe take out a feature or two here and there and come up with half the quote (20 hours) which I tell my boss we can make unless problems arise.
As with all development, problems arise, the client complains about X feature stuff gets redone, the code ends up being a huge mess and usually takes 1 and a half times the original quote.(60 hours). Yet my boss still doesn't figure it out. Why? Probably because his boss keeps breathing down his neck to cut development times as well.
What's worse is when a sales person or my boss talks to a client and gets them to agree on a list of features and the time it takes to develop before even consulting me. Last month a client wanted a content managment system for a website, discussion forums, polls, etc. Because of certain features it couldn't just be downloaded and I ended up just writing it. The client was charged 25 hours, it took closer to 80.
Anyway its the PHBs that cause the problem
Mods on CRACK! My original post is flamebait, maybe with a slight bit of troll. It is not offtopic. I even quoted the article! This post however is a perfect example of being offtopic :)
Long live Dimitry... oh wait I mean Long live Jon!
Hehehe.
Hopefully the above poster is correct in summarizing the situation.
/.! :)
I love
I pity your poor soul, the U I graduated from did the same thing, I'm a perl/mysql developer. My proffesional opinion is that blackboard a collection of cgi scripts written by monkeys, or Matt Wright ala Matt's script archive.
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Internal Server Error when you don't follow instructions. It was comical to break it for my profs
It sucks!
Well in defense of my sig, its meant to be humorous and ironic. Besides war criminals and terrorists are too different things.
This is the sort of thing that really pisses me off. Not to say that virus writers don't do damage or even that they are not criminals but how can you compare a computer glitch to killing 3000+ people? These virus writers are kids with too much time on their hands, they aren't terrorists! The solution isn't to toss them in jail or throw away the key, the solution is to get them to do something useful with their skills and then to use products that don't have so many security problems. </rant>
... when you can pry it from my cold dead fingers!!!!
:)
Someone had to say it
I make my living as a perl programmer
/. are so quick to flame Perl. If you don't like it don't use it but don't flame people who do. I love Perl. As far is being hard to read or understand well I think that's people who have never tried. When I started coding Perl I was a complete newbie. I'd done a little C and a bit of Basic and I wanted to learn how to right CGI scripts. Someone showed me Perl and inside a week I was writting (badly but still writting) a message board. It took me weeks, it was horrid but it worked. I know very few people who can do that in any other language. In fact it was Perl that got me to move away from the darkside of Windows (this was before ActiveState made Perl on Windows a more manageable beast).
I do not understand why a majority of people on
Try it before you knock it. Give it a chance. If you don't like it then use the tool you like but don't keep spreading flames and lies about it. Saying its only good for 500 line programs or that its always unmaintainable or it can't be used by teams simply isn't true. And ANY language can have all of those attributes.
Perl also has a great community that I've not seen in other languages. Don't know how to do something, ask Perlmonks. Those guys are even one of the few places where newbies can come. Very rarely do I even see someone screaming RTFM at them. Most of the time you just get your question answered and answered fast. There are other places that aren't so kind.
Perl is great. Long live Perl
Hmmmmmm.... maybe they should use a small percentage of that to buy a decent website ...
"We easily sent hundreds of these letters over the past year," he said. Indeed, he wondered why this was considered newsworthy at all, as "many organizations do this."
/.? Or me? Whatever. so there!, and there!, and there!
And many organizations are freaking retarded too.
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Hello! When people link to you its like free advertising... hmmm maybe if we allow people to link to our site they might actually find it.
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What are they going to do now? Sue Google? Or
(That was very therapetic)
That's the problem, many PHB's don't know it because M$oft is always touting the whole "The system costs less but then you have to pay more support!" What we really need to do is tell the world that most people still need a high payed system admin for windoze machines as well as linux.
The copying issue is the problem and what I would love to see is a free license with the following restrictions:
I believe something like this would go a long way to making sure that developers get their due, and can earn a living by charging for software but other developers/users can make copies, share with friends, or learn from the code.
The difference here is that Afghani women have no other recourse than to break the law. We do have the right to vote.
Oddly enough less than 50% of registered voters actually excersise their right to do so. If someone could convince all these people to support a cause we could easily get rid of all the laws we love to hate and probably the corporations that right them.