Terrible idea.
If it is not enough that the NSA and FBI already track the behavior of citizens..*cough*...suspected terrorist without much oversight, what happens when they add this company's technology to its set of tools to monitor our activities. Looks like I'll be moving to Canada or Greenland soon...
I agree. I started off using an early version of Red Hat, but it was not until I used gentoo that I "actually" learned Linux. Also, I found it particularly helpful to set up a simple network (2~3 machines) and worked on making a router, NIS, dhcp server, etc. I took notes and placed them on a personal wiki. One of these days I'll get around to posting it online, but the only way you will learn is by getting your hands dirty. Oh, and for a real challenge, read the Linux from scratch documentation and have a crack at that.
The problem is that there is still a pretty large learning curve to linux. It does not take much time to teach a kid how to 'ls','cd', or grep their process list. Problems come into play when their internet goes down, or they forget their password. Or, when they really need to run a windows specific program that their professor/boss hands out. If HP and Dell offer a list of "supported" MS/Linux programs and offer easy RPM/.deb install methods, I'll be behind them 100%. The critical mass of linux users will develop over time, it can be forced upon them as an incomeplete solution (i.e. mp3,mpeg,dvd support out of the box). Stay the course, otherwise the only punch we'll see comes from Joestown.
I never upgrade when there is a new release. This is responsible thinking and planning on the Korean government's part. Now, if we could only convince our government and other consumers to follow suit.
Sometimes I can't tell the difference between slashdot and fox news. I'm sure everyone is tired of this conversation. Until I see a formal tech sheet and notes, I'm finished with reading about the iphone. I'm interested in facts and genuine speculation, not sensationalism.
I agree with hacking into US goverment machines. I have no plans of spending the next 10 years in a federal prison or Gitmo for that matter. But, who is then responsible for testing the security of our critical systems? Is that no our duty as programming and security professionals?
Please explain to me why such machines were connected to the internet again? That's like walking outside the door in the morning without a pair of pants.
Knock on wood...
Don't say that. You'll just encourage someone to do it. I'd prefer not to read about Viagra and penny stocks when I'm trying to look up a bio on Linus.
Is anyone else tired of people attacking our freedom of speech and expression? I for one am glad the courts are still on our side. Separation of powers at work.
They guy has ethics. For a researcher and academic, the world is not just about making a quick dime. His reputation, it seems, is more important to him.
That is correct. The groups are usually pretty small. But this past summer I participated in a group with over 40 students. I don't know all the detailed statistics about the programs, but I'm sure the NSF tracks that type of data, since they are the largest funder for these types of programs. Also, remember, small does not nessesarely translate into selective or impossible to enroll.
A buddy told me a few years back a group of science school kids were invited to Clemson University to work on a visualization cluster. Most of the students had little to no programming experience at all, but after a few weeks, everyone was able to write a basic c/python program and touch on how to write parallel code. As a young student, you probably won't have the oppertunity to write linux kernel code, but if you scan the web for REU programs, you may find a few that allow even a prospective college student (I'd write that in a letter) to participate. With so many student defecting from the sciences (at least in the US. no I do not have a citation) I'm sure the interest of a young mind would motivate any program director to include you in a research experience. Would you guys agree?
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Terrible idea. If it is not enough that the NSA and FBI already track the behavior of citizens..*cough*...suspected terrorist without much oversight, what happens when they add this company's technology to its set of tools to monitor our activities. Looks like I'll be moving to Canada or Greenland soon...
I agree. I started off using an early version of Red Hat, but it was not until I used gentoo that I "actually" learned Linux. Also, I found it particularly helpful to set up a simple network (2~3 machines) and worked on making a router, NIS, dhcp server, etc. I took notes and placed them on a personal wiki. One of these days I'll get around to posting it online, but the only way you will learn is by getting your hands dirty. Oh, and for a real challenge, read the Linux from scratch documentation and have a crack at that.
The problem is that there is still a pretty large learning curve to linux. It does not take much time to teach a kid how to 'ls','cd', or grep their process list. Problems come into play when their internet goes down, or they forget their password. Or, when they really need to run a windows specific program that their professor/boss hands out. If HP and Dell offer a list of "supported" MS/Linux programs and offer easy RPM/.deb install methods, I'll be behind them 100%. The critical mass of linux users will develop over time, it can be forced upon them as an incomeplete solution (i.e. mp3,mpeg,dvd support out of the box). Stay the course, otherwise the only punch we'll see comes from Joestown.
I stand corrected.
I'd prefer to see another worthless iPhone post. Seriously...Harry Potter? It's not a slow news day, so what gives? Again, is this /. or middle school.
...whatever makes you that extra billion.
I never upgrade when there is a new release. This is responsible thinking and planning on the Korean government's part. Now, if we could only convince our government and other consumers to follow suit.
Sometimes I can't tell the difference between slashdot and fox news. I'm sure everyone is tired of this conversation. Until I see a formal tech sheet and notes, I'm finished with reading about the iphone. I'm interested in facts and genuine speculation, not sensationalism.
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Hey, sometimes it's your average Joe who points out a problem. http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/30/133 3216
I agree with hacking into US goverment machines. I have no plans of spending the next 10 years in a federal prison or Gitmo for that matter. But, who is then responsible for testing the security of our critical systems? Is that no our duty as programming and security professionals? Please explain to me why such machines were connected to the internet again? That's like walking outside the door in the morning without a pair of pants.
Knock on wood... Don't say that. You'll just encourage someone to do it. I'd prefer not to read about Viagra and penny stocks when I'm trying to look up a bio on Linus.
Is anyone else tired of people attacking our freedom of speech and expression? I for one am glad the courts are still on our side. Separation of powers at work.
They guy has ethics. For a researcher and academic, the world is not just about making a quick dime. His reputation, it seems, is more important to him.
That is correct. The groups are usually pretty small. But this past summer I participated in a group with over 40 students. I don't know all the detailed statistics about the programs, but I'm sure the NSF tracks that type of data, since they are the largest funder for these types of programs. Also, remember, small does not nessesarely translate into selective or impossible to enroll.
A buddy told me a few years back a group of science school kids were invited to Clemson University to work on a visualization cluster. Most of the students had little to no programming experience at all, but after a few weeks, everyone was able to write a basic c/python program and touch on how to write parallel code. As a young student, you probably won't have the oppertunity to write linux kernel code, but if you scan the web for REU programs, you may find a few that allow even a prospective college student (I'd write that in a letter) to participate. With so many student defecting from the sciences (at least in the US. no I do not have a citation) I'm sure the interest of a young mind would motivate any program director to include you in a research experience. Would you guys agree?
Me too. Just kidding.