It tracks all of the changes. If a train left Paris at 12:06pm on Jan 12, 1936 and averaged 60mph all the way to Moscow, you can't tell when it arrives in Moscow just by knowing the timezones now and the length of the track. You need to know what the timezones were at the time. And, you need to know exactly when they changed -- especially if they changed during the journey.
Also, since zoneinfo doesn't guarantee integrity for data before 1970 and Unix time can't even express it, that's not even a good example!:)
The database is designed in a smart enough way that those problems are just a series of easy steps that can be abstracted away from the perspective of the C libraries in question. Replace "complicated" with "elegantly modularized according to Unix tradition."
It's a surprise the C library that uses these files can manage to keep all the time accounting straight...
It's not that complicated. They all translate into offsets in seconds. To the computer, I don't live in America/Los_Angeles on 3:47pm Thu March 3, 2011. The computer sees:
1299196020 (unix time in UTC)
- 28800 (my zone offset in seconds, using the tz database)
+ 0 (no DST in my zone right now)
= 1299167220 (local time)
So the really impressive work has just been in conceptualizing and organizing the database so that a program just needs to lookup two questions: which of the zones am I in, and what is the current offset for that zone?
The tz database is meant to keep track of present and historical changes. Your proposed changes would not simplify anything - they'd only make the tz database bigger.
This. There are always new problems to be solved. Instead of complaining about how easy it is to do the same things we did in 1995, how about dedicating all your free time and ostensible baremetal skills to writing patches that solve TODAY's problems and tomorrow's problems? Help with btrfs, Tor, SystemD, DNSsec, or how about writing the code to finally make xinerama with compositing work again in xorg? That is currently an OPEN BUG. Anyone who says they miss the grit, and isn't spending their time on this stuff, is just all talk.
"The most important difference from conventional hacking is that the fraudsters do not need to log into the online banking computers - they simply ride on the existing and authenticated session, much as a child might slip in unnoticed through a turnstile at a sports event, train station, etc."
I don't get it. Why is the name nina more fsckable and mountable than reiser? Because she's dead, or because she's a woman? I was told in a previous thread that slashdot is free of sexual and gender bias, so that can't be it. Plz help a confused girl understand why this is +5 Funny.
Why not go for the best of both worlds through emulation/virtualization? I thought that's exactly what they are doing. From TFA:
Classic, the most interesting of the three environments, is the approach that Microsoft will be taking with Windows 7. Essentially, Classic provided a complete API and binary abstraction layer which allows Mac OS 9 code to run within a "virtual machine" inside Mac OS X.
Just from reading the previous/. articles, it seems that the people working on E8 all along expected it to be applied to theoretical physics and a GUT (grand unified theory). I don't understand how it can be called his original idea and thus a breakthrough. Can anyone explain?
I understand the difference between "hating" an entire gender and having an analysis of existing gender politics. Why don't you?
I'm glad you think geeks are "the most accepting group on the planet." I don't think that's true, but I don't think geeks in general are the great oppressor either. At WORST many geeks have a self-satisfied libertarian attitude towards life. Plenty of geeks would also have the good sense to just apologize for assuming someone's pronoun, and understand why a woman might hate that. Given the number of men who instantly chimed in with vitriolic jokes, defensive lectures and mod points, in response to a 6 word aside by a single woman about an issue central to the question of womens' inclusion in geek culture, plenty of geeks should also be able to figure out how fucked up that is. How much more coherent and rational does this need to be?
Yeah, sorry I'm not your wife. I picked/., an old boys' club where "proving them wrong" would mean writing the hastiest snarkiest flamebait of them all. I'm sure she has much higher standards and better things to do. I'll accept your forgiveness anytime.
As for male domination, unless you're going to explicitly deny it both in the present context AND in general, I'll accept your apology in turn. I don't care about a hypothetical cosmo forum or that you role-play on MMO's or whether I "come off as misandrist" if you're too busy yawning to rationally address what I'm talking about.
Who else needs to say something stupid/irrelevant because the truth makes them mildly guilty and uncomfortable? Anyone?
Nice job modding up a defensive pile of phallocentric FUD. I almost managed to read my tech news in peace without such "surprise" (er, reminder) of what's in the pants of my fellow techies (didn't want to know) - and to think I had to wade through parent links just to find the lone woman's voice in the first place! Some irony.
For all these gestures towards laissez faire gender equality it seems like the real surprise is from an all boys' club caught off guard. When the (allegedly) 1 in 20th voice actually notices and objects to traditional/. pronoun assumptions, it's her own high expectations at fault, and somehow she gets bated as naive. The expectation that every slashdotter has balls to scratch between coding shifts? Apparently that's not naivety and is impervious to "newsflashes" to the contrary.
It's amazing that the men who every day self-deprecate their understanding of women and gender, joke about their perpetual lack of girlfriends and general lack of contact with what they call the "opposite sex", suddenly become experts regarding fairness and equality when a woman has the sass to correct her own pronoun and expect some RESPECT for it. Where are you men grabbing such hidden expertise? Is there a hidden man page I don't know about? (I tried typing "man man", but that was something else *shrug*) How could a flame war about lesbians and man hating and the children of the fabled hermaphroditus possibly be easier and more appropriate than saying something along these lines???:
Oops. Sorry. I guess since Slashdot is male-centric I assumed your pronoun incorrectly.
Yeah, way too complex. KISS.
Believe me, such a courageous advocate as you are for the word and good name of your own gender, MY GODDESS, you would surely hate it too!
Slashdot Mirror
A slashdotted LJ entry. Slow news day?
I hereby declare the room in which I reside the Republic of Bob!.... Why are you laughing at me? For legal purposes it means just as much.
It'd be just about as legitimate as Gadafi's rule is.
It'd be just about as legitimate as Gadafi's rule is.
$ date -d 'November 16, 1999 PST' +%s
942739200
$ date -d @942739200
Tue Nov 16 00:00:00 PST 1999
Also, since zoneinfo doesn't guarantee integrity for data before 1970 and Unix time can't even express it, that's not even a good example! :)
The database is designed in a smart enough way that those problems are just a series of easy steps that can be abstracted away from the perspective of the C libraries in question. Replace "complicated" with "elegantly modularized according to Unix tradition."
It's not that complicated. They all translate into offsets in seconds. To the computer, I don't live in America/Los_Angeles on 3:47pm Thu March 3, 2011. The computer sees:
1299196020 (unix time in UTC)
- 28800 (my zone offset in seconds, using the tz database)
+ 0 (no DST in my zone right now)
= 1299167220 (local time)
So the really impressive work has just been in conceptualizing and organizing the database so that a program just needs to lookup two questions: which of the zones am I in, and what is the current offset for that zone?
The tz database is meant to keep track of present and historical changes. Your proposed changes would not simplify anything - they'd only make the tz database bigger.
This. There are always new problems to be solved. Instead of complaining about how easy it is to do the same things we did in 1995, how about dedicating all your free time and ostensible baremetal skills to writing patches that solve TODAY's problems and tomorrow's problems? Help with btrfs, Tor, SystemD, DNSsec, or how about writing the code to finally make xinerama with compositing work again in xorg? That is currently an OPEN BUG. Anyone who says they miss the grit, and isn't spending their time on this stuff, is just all talk.
"The most important difference from conventional hacking is that the fraudsters do not need to log into the online banking computers - they simply ride on the existing and authenticated session, much as a child might slip in unnoticed through a turnstile at a sports event, train station, etc."
Like putting too much air in a balloon!
sudo make me a sandwich
in one, a seam divides the mask into two rough triangles, and in the other a seam creates two rough rectangles
My digital alarm clock already invented that.
That's what it sounds like to me.
Not if they're transgendered in some states.
I don't get it. Why is the name nina more fsckable and mountable than reiser? Because she's dead, or because she's a woman? I was told in a previous thread that slashdot is free of sexual and gender bias, so that can't be it. Plz help a confused girl understand why this is +5 Funny.
Nobody knows how to spell San Francisco?
Don't blame me, I voted for Clippy.
that the Linux using croud is still composed mostly of geeks, and that geeks being dorks and all don't really have friends
I'm offended by the ignorant and insulting generalization that geeks = dorks.
In other news, identity theft becomes even more profitable and more deadly.
... we'll need an army of super-virile men re-jiggering 'round the clock!
Just from reading the previous /. articles, it seems that the people working on E8 all along expected it to be applied to theoretical physics and a GUT (grand unified theory). I don't understand how it can be called his original idea and thus a breakthrough. Can anyone explain?
I understand the difference between "hating" an entire gender and having an analysis of existing gender politics. Why don't you?
I'm glad you think geeks are "the most accepting group on the planet." I don't think that's true, but I don't think geeks in general are the great oppressor either. At WORST many geeks have a self-satisfied libertarian attitude towards life. Plenty of geeks would also have the good sense to just apologize for assuming someone's pronoun, and understand why a woman might hate that. Given the number of men who instantly chimed in with vitriolic jokes, defensive lectures and mod points, in response to a 6 word aside by a single woman about an issue central to the question of womens' inclusion in geek culture, plenty of geeks should also be able to figure out how fucked up that is. How much more coherent and rational does this need to be?
Yeah, sorry I'm not your wife. I picked /., an old boys' club where "proving them wrong" would mean writing the hastiest snarkiest flamebait of them all. I'm sure she has much higher standards and better things to do. I'll accept your forgiveness anytime.
As for male domination, unless you're going to explicitly deny it both in the present context AND in general, I'll accept your apology in turn. I don't care about a hypothetical cosmo forum or that you role-play on MMO's or whether I "come off as misandrist" if you're too busy yawning to rationally address what I'm talking about.
Who else needs to say something stupid/irrelevant because the truth makes them mildly guilty and uncomfortable? Anyone?
For all these gestures towards laissez faire gender equality it seems like the real surprise is from an all boys' club caught off guard. When the (allegedly) 1 in 20th voice actually notices and objects to traditional
It's amazing that the men who every day self-deprecate their understanding of women and gender, joke about their perpetual lack of girlfriends and general lack of contact with what they call the "opposite sex", suddenly become experts regarding fairness and equality when a woman has the sass to correct her own pronoun and expect some RESPECT for it. Where are you men grabbing such hidden expertise? Is there a hidden man page I don't know about? (I tried typing "man man", but that was something else *shrug*) How could a flame war about lesbians and man hating and the children of the fabled hermaphroditus possibly be easier and more appropriate than saying something along these lines???:
Yeah, way too complex. KISS.
Believe me, such a courageous advocate as you are for the word and good name of your own gender, MY GODDESS, you would surely hate it too!