Perhaps you've missed the big business that has grown up surrounding slashdot's sale of $3 crack, but I assure you it is quite profitable and mutually beneficial. If you'd like to start selling $3 crack, please reply to this message with your credit card number and address.
You missed the other half; this is obviously an attempt to shut down or regulate the nascent VoIP market. The big phone companies don't want to slash their margins and have to compete with Vonage and the 10-10 numbers on price and value, so they'll do it in the courtroom.
Motorola has done a horrible job of marketing their technology over the years, from the failed and forgotten AIM (Apple, IBM, and Motorola) alliance (remember? Taligent? "Pink"? Yeah, me neither...) to their more recent "Digital DNA" (I still don't know what that meant) marketing campaign.
What does Motorola do? As far as the rest of the world is concerned, they make cellphones and stuff. People hear about the PowerMac from Apple, and occasionally the PowerPC from IBM, but they hear nothing that makes sense out of Motorola. Hopefully this will change, for their sake.
Did I say Enron? Have you forgotten about the rolling black-outs? About Gray Davis' under-the-table dealings?
Sure, there are lots of stupid things happening at the federal level too; that doesn't excuse California, however....and if you don't know the difference between a political office and a corporation, that's your problem.
As for the rest, do some research; pay attention to the news. See which court decisions have been made or overturned lately, and where they came from. Decide for yourself whether or not you like the idea of a recall.
The only thing you've shown me here is your ignorance to all things political. And that's fine if you just want to talk tech on/., but... well, if you don't know what someone is talking about, that's not a good reason to reply.
I'm posting this from Xenolinux right now, and I must say, I'm quite impressed. The virtualization is seamless, the time sharing is quite well done. I haven't tried stressing it too much, just running nbench on one domain (that's how they divide it up) and mozilla on the other (forwarded through ssh back to the first domain)....now if only I could run some other OSes on here as well...
This isn't new; many people have had this idea before, including me, but this is the first time I've ever seen a state actually trying to *do* something about it.
California, I admit that I haven't trusted your judgement that much of late, what with your energy scandals, your various boneheaded court decisions, and currently the California recall... but I support and applaud your efforts to hold Microsoft accountable to the consumer again. Who knows, maybe we'll see a Microsoft recall next.
I know for a fact that earlier versions of atoi() definitely assume ASCII (otherwise, they'd call it stoi(), right?); of course you could replace my 0..9 check with isdigit(), but that still leaves you with the -'0' hack, which is fairly common. You'd probably want to replace *that* with a lookup table. Feel free to do so; knock yourself out.
Also, note that strtol() can have support for both different bases and different locales; the different bases would be slightly more involved, (replacing the *10 with a *base and possibly adding in A-Z in your lookup table) and the locale support would be as well (for example, ignoring commas or periods or whatever, as is appropriate).
Yeah, atoi() is pretty simple, but I'm sure there are a fair number of variations out there. Some earlier versions only supported positive numbers, and didn't allow leading whitespace.
Anyhow, SGI, if you ever want a non-infringing version of atoi(), feel free to use this one. I just made it up, so any similarity to anyone else's code is purely coincidental.
int atoi(const char * s) {
int i, r = 0, n = 0;
if (s) {
for(i=0;s[i]&&isspace(s[i]);i++);
switch (s[i]) {
case '-': n = 1;
case '+': i++; break;
}
for(;s[i]>='0'&&s[i]<='9';i++)
r = r*10 + s[i]-'0';
if (n) r = -r;
}
return r; }
Seeing as how SCO released 32V (amongst other Unixes) under a BSD-style license, that link actually just helps show that even if Linux *was* descended from Unix, it would *still* be free! Yay, SCO!
Yes, HP does agree that there are some serious issues here. Namely, that SCO is trying to shake HP's customers down for cash that SCO didn't earn and doesn't deserve. It's nice to see HP taking a stand against that.
First, why do you want to do this in the first place? You can get many of the benefits of "Thin Clients" by using a networked filesystem to store applications and configuration data, but still run the applications on the client PC. Also, you'll probably need less servers for this approach, since they'll just be networked disk servers, not application servers.
In my experience, the big benefit of having a Citrix server is being able to run Windows applications from clients that are not x86-based. For example, if the client is running Solaris on SPARC, but needs access to a Windows-only application, then that client can just access it through Citrix. Then any slowness from the network or the (loaded) server is somewhat acceptable, seeing as how you couldn't otherwise run the application. But that doesn't sound like the case at all in your scenario.
Also, you might want to see what VMWare has to offer; they are also in the x86 Server virtualization market.
* The GPL is not the end-all, be-all on what is and isn't Open Source Software * However, the DFSG sort of are. * No, this doesn't look like a DFSG-compliant license to me. * IANAL
After the second civil war, we'll be much more worried about the next world war, which will make a mere asteroid crashing into the earth look like a tiny drop in the bucket.
I think the main difference is that the RIAA is successful, and might actually have a monopoly of some sort. But annoying/exploiting your customers is never good, whether you make money doing so or not.
However, I--like you--don't use Mandrake. I tried it once, and wasn't impressed, and went from RedHat to Gentoo. But it looks like a lot of people here do use or otherwise support Mandrake.
Ok, this is really really stupid, and I'm surprised you're all just sitting idly by and not calling Mandrake on this one. Here's what will happen if Mandrake doesn't get a clue.
Mandrake releases a downloadable Linux distribution with ads imbedded into it.
5 minutes later, a Linux developer releases a tool to get rid of all the ads in the Mandrake installer and whatnot. (binary patch to the ISO, whatever)
Mandrake changes their licensing terms to make this illegal (or maybe they already have?) and considers legal action.
Slashdot users finally get pissed at Mandrake
Now, my question is, why do you guys support a failing company that founded its business on slightly modifying RedHat's distribution and then trying to sell it for a profit? Why did you give money to Mandrake (when they begged for it) in the first place? And once they proved that they were irresponsible with it, or didn't have a sound business model, why did you do it again? And now, when Mandrake starts talking about selling advertising to pay for Free software, why are you supporting them?
Either don't support them, or help them make an honest living that doesn't involve annoying and/or exploiting their customers. That's what I'd say about the RIAA, and I won't compromise those values for Mandrake either.
I don't know if the cost of installing them was included in that estimate, but maybe it was.
As for the disk 'servers', I figured they were just sharing all of the 160GB HDs over the network, seeing as how 160GB x 1100 ~= 176TB (ok, it's more like 172TB, but who's counting...)
I wasn't sure how they were using the word 'node' there. That would raise the price to... $5,120.00 per machine! Their consumer prices for RAM must be hugely inflated, seeing as how you could get a 1U dual 2Ghz Opteron with 4GB RAM for $4,500.00...
Looks like the costs come out to $23,636 per node, or $4727 per machine. According to the Apple Store, an equivalently specced machine (dual proc G5, 160GB HD, 1GB RAM) comes out to just a little over $3,000. I suppose you might want a display on the management machine in each node, but that won't raise the price that much (say, $3,200 per machine instead). So that leaves ~$1,500 per machine for the networking hardware and whatever other expenses.
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Perhaps you've missed the big business that has grown up surrounding slashdot's sale of $3 crack, but I assure you it is quite profitable and mutually beneficial. If you'd like to start selling $3 crack, please reply to this message with your credit card number and address.
You missed the other half; this is obviously an attempt to shut down or regulate the nascent VoIP market. The big phone companies don't want to slash their margins and have to compete with Vonage and the 10-10 numbers on price and value, so they'll do it in the courtroom.
Motorola has done a horrible job of marketing their technology over the years, from the failed and forgotten AIM (Apple, IBM, and Motorola) alliance (remember? Taligent? "Pink"? Yeah, me neither...) to their more recent "Digital DNA" (I still don't know what that meant) marketing campaign.
What does Motorola do? As far as the rest of the world is concerned, they make cellphones and stuff. People hear about the PowerMac from Apple, and occasionally the PowerPC from IBM, but they hear nothing that makes sense out of Motorola. Hopefully this will change, for their sake.
Nothing to see here, move along...
Did I say Enron? Have you forgotten about the rolling black-outs? About Gray Davis' under-the-table dealings?
...and if you don't know the difference between a political office and a corporation, that's your problem.
/., but... well, if you don't know what someone is talking about, that's not a good reason to reply.
Sure, there are lots of stupid things happening at the federal level too; that doesn't excuse California, however.
As for the rest, do some research; pay attention to the news. See which court decisions have been made or overturned lately, and where they came from. Decide for yourself whether or not you like the idea of a recall.
The only thing you've shown me here is your ignorance to all things political. And that's fine if you just want to talk tech on
I'm posting this from Xenolinux right now, and I must say, I'm quite impressed. The virtualization is seamless, the time sharing is quite well done. I haven't tried stressing it too much, just running nbench on one domain (that's how they divide it up) and mozilla on the other (forwarded through ssh back to the first domain). ...now if only I could run some other OSes on here as well...
This isn't new; many people have had this idea before, including me, but this is the first time I've ever seen a state actually trying to *do* something about it.
California, I admit that I haven't trusted your judgement that much of late, what with your energy scandals, your various boneheaded court decisions, and currently the California recall... but I support and applaud your efforts to hold Microsoft accountable to the consumer again. Who knows, maybe we'll see a Microsoft recall next.
I know for a fact that earlier versions of atoi() definitely assume ASCII (otherwise, they'd call it stoi(), right?); of course you could replace my 0..9 check with isdigit(), but that still leaves you with the -'0' hack, which is fairly common. You'd probably want to replace *that* with a lookup table. Feel free to do so; knock yourself out.
Also, note that strtol() can have support for both different bases and different locales; the different bases would be slightly more involved, (replacing the *10 with a *base and possibly adding in A-Z in your lookup table) and the locale support would be as well (for example, ignoring commas or periods or whatever, as is appropriate).
Yeah, atoi() is pretty simple, but I'm sure there are a fair number of variations out there. Some earlier versions only supported positive numbers, and didn't allow leading whitespace.
Anyhow, SGI, if you ever want a non-infringing version of atoi(), feel free to use this one. I just made it up, so any similarity to anyone else's code is purely coincidental.
int atoi(const char * s) {
int i, r = 0, n = 0;
if (s) {
for(i=0;s[i]&&isspace(s[i]);i++);
switch (s[i]) {
case '-': n = 1;
case '+': i++; break;
}
for(;s[i]>='0'&&s[i]<='9';i++)
r = r*10 + s[i]-'0';
if (n) r = -r;
}
return r;
}
Get your fill of nerdy software song parodies (filks), including several popular slashdot originals!
Seeing as how SCO released 32V (amongst other Unixes) under a BSD-style license, that link actually just helps show that even if Linux *was* descended from Unix, it would *still* be free! Yay, SCO!
Yes, HP does agree that there are some serious issues here. Namely, that SCO is trying to shake HP's customers down for cash that SCO didn't earn and doesn't deserve. It's nice to see HP taking a stand against that.
First, why do you want to do this in the first place? You can get many of the benefits of "Thin Clients" by using a networked filesystem to store applications and configuration data, but still run the applications on the client PC. Also, you'll probably need less servers for this approach, since they'll just be networked disk servers, not application servers.
In my experience, the big benefit of having a Citrix server is being able to run Windows applications from clients that are not x86-based. For example, if the client is running Solaris on SPARC, but needs access to a Windows-only application, then that client can just access it through Citrix. Then any slowness from the network or the (loaded) server is somewhat acceptable, seeing as how you couldn't otherwise run the application. But that doesn't sound like the case at all in your scenario.
Also, you might want to see what VMWare has to offer; they are also in the x86 Server virtualization market.
* The GPL is not the end-all, be-all on what is and isn't Open Source Software
* However, the DFSG sort of are.
* No, this doesn't look like a DFSG-compliant license to me.
* IANAL
After the second civil war, we'll be much more worried about the next world war, which will make a mere asteroid crashing into the earth look like a tiny drop in the bucket.
I've worked with some "C++ compilers" that didn't implement the bool types at all, amongst other things.
\\ no, it isn't.
I call prior art; CmdrTaco has been doing this for years!
I agree, they are interesting; fortunately, someone beat you to it. :)
I think the main difference is that the RIAA is successful, and might actually have a monopoly of some sort. But annoying/exploiting your customers is never good, whether you make money doing so or not.
However, I--like you--don't use Mandrake. I tried it once, and wasn't impressed, and went from RedHat to Gentoo. But it looks like a lot of people here do use or otherwise support Mandrake.
Now, my question is, why do you guys support a failing company that founded its business on slightly modifying RedHat's distribution and then trying to sell it for a profit? Why did you give money to Mandrake (when they begged for it) in the first place? And once they proved that they were irresponsible with it, or didn't have a sound business model, why did you do it again? And now, when Mandrake starts talking about selling advertising to pay for Free software, why are you supporting them?
Either don't support them, or help them make an honest living that doesn't involve annoying and/or exploiting their customers. That's what I'd say about the RIAA, and I won't compromise those values for Mandrake either.
I don't know if the cost of installing them was included in that estimate, but maybe it was.
As for the disk 'servers', I figured they were just sharing all of the 160GB HDs over the network, seeing as how 160GB x 1100 ~= 176TB (ok, it's more like 172TB, but who's counting...)
I wasn't sure how they were using the word 'node' there. That would raise the price to... $5,120.00 per machine! Their consumer prices for RAM must be hugely inflated, seeing as how you could get a 1U dual 2Ghz Opteron with 4GB RAM for $4,500.00...
Looks like the costs come out to $23,636 per node, or $4727 per machine. According to the Apple Store, an equivalently specced machine (dual proc G5, 160GB HD, 1GB RAM) comes out to just a little over $3,000. I suppose you might want a display on the management machine in each node, but that won't raise the price that much (say, $3,200 per machine instead). So that leaves ~$1,500 per machine for the networking hardware and whatever other expenses.
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