I wish Fedora or RHEL would let you upgrade between major versions. So far as RHEL is concerned, I understand the main reason is that major changes which would break a lot of things do not occur in minor version updates... although I've encountered the occasional upgrade that reset a config file (looking at you, logwatch and you, httpd) or was simply impossible to do without huge risk (HP SAN drivers, required pre-RHEL 5.3, which required kernel modifications).
I can't think of a great reason for Fedora to require a reinstall though. I've still got a few Fedora 8 machines because they're deployed in remote locations and they still work. When they eventually die, or have hardware problems severe enough to warrant shipping back to HQ, I will replace them with the latest Fedora.
Linux and Mac don't require registry cleanup or defrags. For independent examples, I suggest clearing the browser cache, applying updates, and managing personal documents.
You missed the point yet again. I'm beginning to think you're being intentionally thick. While you've hem-hawed around the points I originally made, you can't do basic things such as produce a list of updates available to a system. This PowerShell relies on a hefty library of framework objects for pretty basic stuff. It's meh at best, and the more I hear about how exciting you think it is, the more I think you're simply a Microsoft fanboy trying to promote another half-assed tool.
But please do wake me when you feel you might have something interesting or insightful to add to the conversation. So far it's smoke and mirrors and I'll have no more of it.
The point was the grandstanding, the comment "I do have to say Powershell is pretty sweet" implied something interesting or insightful was going on. Half of the people in this thread make it sound like this is such a big deal, and it's still a pile of steaming crap. It's like I've stumbled into some bizarro-world edition of Slashdot where getting a limited command shell to function under Windows is some sort of nirvana. You still have a (very very very) limited shell with little of the functionality of shells created 20+ years ago. It's not exciting at all unless you haven't used any proper tools before.
Or, to put it simply, "there is nothing to see here". What you think of as the Rapture is a meh moment at best.
"from Microsoft Update"... you are missing the point. I didn't ask about updates to Windows, or even updates to Microsoft Office. I specifically mentioned "Windows updates for all packages", i.e. all the third-party stuff that is involved with a server update.
Reading skills are important. Maybe try a spoonful of that with your ignorance.
I can do the same thing in 3 lines of code using only SSH and virsh in our KVM environment (1 line to set sh as shell, 1 to run SSH and use virsh to clone / create a VM, and 1 to start it). Perhaps a better example would be getting the current swap usage... No that's 2 lines using SSH. Maybe determining the list of software updates available on our entire network of Linux servers? 1 line to set sh as the shell, 1 line to read the list of servers from a file, 1 to start the loop, 1 to execute SSH with a yum list updates, 1 to accumulate the output, 1 to close the loop, and 1 to use mutt to email me the file. 7 lines.
How exactly do you see Windows updates for all packages again? Oh, right, it's not a feature. Yawn. Call me when that toy becomes as powerful as the Linux/UNIX tools we've been using for decades. And doesn't require a huge set of frameworks for basic tasks.
Unfortunately I have tried both -- and those were the only times I got my Mac to the point where I had to reinstall. Well, other than the time I used Monolingual and removed all PPC code from Tiger. All so I could re-use some scripts I built for work...
Another option is to remove the optical drive in the MBP and install a second hard drive. Do a fresh install there and tell it to look on the other drive for all your apps, documents and settings. It worked well for me.
Remember to add the "old" drive to the exclusions list for Spotlight and Time Machine, and unmount it on boot. Use it a week or two this way so you can make absolutely sure you aren't using anything on the old drive. Eventually you can pull the plug so to speak and use it as a seconday backup (I use CCC to clone the drive periodically and Time Machine for backups whenever I'm home and connected to the NAS).
Agreed. The thing that disappoints me most about the Wii is the crappy store. It's as useless as the built-in browser.
Add a progress bar for downloads, change the entire layout so that navigating from one page to the next isn't so time-consuming, use an interface that resembles any other standard interface (even a bad one would be better than the current one), show "new" items easier, include search, include demo games, etc.
Nintendo could be making money hand-over-fist via the store if they could get it right. After getting burned several times buying console games that were fairly highly rated but disliking them, I don't buy many console games anymore. I guess I could go to the trouble of renting them to try them out or buying a GameFly subscription, but that's more bother than it's worth to me and I don't game regularly. Give me a downloadable, playable demo that can be upgraded easily to the full version so that when I'm available to play I can actually play something interesting to me.
I buy prepaid cards as gifts at least once or twice a year and it's not been that expensive. Setup fees have typically been in the $8-10 range; at that price I just make sure the cards are at least $100. Since the recipients use them for short-term purchases, monthly fees aren't an issue.
There are few valid excuses to being poor, and this isn't one of them. Lifestyle choices (don't buy the cigarettes, beer, fast food, cable TV, "spinner rims", large gold jewelry, car spoilers, designer clothes) would seem to result in much larger savings, enough to easily offset these bank setup fees.
Yes, these are the same people who stuff their plates at buffets then leave them barely touched while they get up from the table to get more food. I understand in some societies there is a belief of equating this with power or prestige, but it sickens me when I see it. Gluttony is not pretty.
Hampton Inn, SE US (Atlanta GA, Chattanooga TN, Palm Beach FL), $150-$250 a night, has a microwave, fridge, iron, coffee maker, etc. Other hotels such as Doubletree do the same thing. In many places you can get a much nicer Hampton Inn room for a little more than a crappy Holiday Inn room, and stays at the Hampton include complimentary weekday 5 pm drinks (beer and wine), free newspaper (usually USA Today) delivered to your door each morning, hot breakfast buffet, weight room, shared computer, wireless internet, breakfast-in-a-bag (Otis Spunkmeyer muffin, banana or apple, random packaged item such as a granola bar), and fresh baked cookies around 7pm every night.
I don't have any special connection with the Hampton, but I've always had excellent service with them and the one in Palm Beach at Okeechobee and Jog is especially nice.
Forgive my ignorance, but why not KVM instead of Xen? And assuming you have a complicated setup with bunches of scripts, mounts, etc, how do you image the entire thing? We have to schedule off-hour downtime to do a snapshot (everything except data) for our internal servers since a new install / config from scratch would take too long for recovery -- but that involves a lot of control that you may or may not have in a "cloud" situation.
+1 Insightful. The Playstation would never have acquired the market share it has without PSN. People would have bought something else. It's a major part of the promotion of the product.
Netflix streaming only is like $8 per month, and the "1 out" makes it $10 or so. Why waste time making a list when you could be watching the movies today?
I wish we still had Redbox units around here -- the nearby ones are now Blockbuster which are horrible. These replacements are considerably slower to browse, they rent out only 3 videos at a time instead of 4 (makes a difference with kids), and when you finally check out, the vend time is outrageous -- literally a minute or two standing there per movie.
I typed "HP printer linux support" in Google and the very first result was this page, which lists the "more than 1200" HP printers supported in Linux. Additional info would be from the CUPS project, Gutenprint, or other sources.
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I wish Fedora or RHEL would let you upgrade between major versions. So far as RHEL is concerned, I understand the main reason is that major changes which would break a lot of things do not occur in minor version updates... although I've encountered the occasional upgrade that reset a config file (looking at you, logwatch and you, httpd) or was simply impossible to do without huge risk (HP SAN drivers, required pre-RHEL 5.3, which required kernel modifications).
I can't think of a great reason for Fedora to require a reinstall though. I've still got a few Fedora 8 machines because they're deployed in remote locations and they still work. When they eventually die, or have hardware problems severe enough to warrant shipping back to HQ, I will replace them with the latest Fedora.
Linux and Mac don't require registry cleanup or defrags. For independent examples, I suggest clearing the browser cache, applying updates, and managing personal documents.
One of the important things to remember is that Bridge is case sensitive. There are lots of guides on the topic, here's one I found quickly that looked OK as I skimmed through it. It works very well once setup. http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/rhel-linux-kvm-virtualization-bridged-networking-with-libvirt/
You missed the point yet again. I'm beginning to think you're being intentionally thick. While you've hem-hawed around the points I originally made, you can't do basic things such as produce a list of updates available to a system. This PowerShell relies on a hefty library of framework objects for pretty basic stuff. It's meh at best, and the more I hear about how exciting you think it is, the more I think you're simply a Microsoft fanboy trying to promote another half-assed tool.
But please do wake me when you feel you might have something interesting or insightful to add to the conversation. So far it's smoke and mirrors and I'll have no more of it.
The point was the grandstanding, the comment "I do have to say Powershell is pretty sweet" implied something interesting or insightful was going on. Half of the people in this thread make it sound like this is such a big deal, and it's still a pile of steaming crap. It's like I've stumbled into some bizarro-world edition of Slashdot where getting a limited command shell to function under Windows is some sort of nirvana. You still have a (very very very) limited shell with little of the functionality of shells created 20+ years ago. It's not exciting at all unless you haven't used any proper tools before.
Or, to put it simply, "there is nothing to see here". What you think of as the Rapture is a meh moment at best.
"from Microsoft Update"... you are missing the point. I didn't ask about updates to Windows, or even updates to Microsoft Office. I specifically mentioned "Windows updates for all packages", i.e. all the third-party stuff that is involved with a server update.
Reading skills are important. Maybe try a spoonful of that with your ignorance.
I can do the same thing in 3 lines of code using only SSH and virsh in our KVM environment (1 line to set sh as shell, 1 to run SSH and use virsh to clone / create a VM, and 1 to start it). Perhaps a better example would be getting the current swap usage... No that's 2 lines using SSH. Maybe determining the list of software updates available on our entire network of Linux servers? 1 line to set sh as the shell, 1 line to read the list of servers from a file, 1 to start the loop, 1 to execute SSH with a yum list updates, 1 to accumulate the output, 1 to close the loop, and 1 to use mutt to email me the file. 7 lines.
How exactly do you see Windows updates for all packages again? Oh, right, it's not a feature. Yawn. Call me when that toy becomes as powerful as the Linux/UNIX tools we've been using for decades. And doesn't require a huge set of frameworks for basic tasks.
Unfortunately I have tried both -- and those were the only times I got my Mac to the point where I had to reinstall. Well, other than the time I used Monolingual and removed all PPC code from Tiger. All so I could re-use some scripts I built for work...
+1 Insightful. And a USB option would be welcome.
Another option is to remove the optical drive in the MBP and install a second hard drive. Do a fresh install there and tell it to look on the other drive for all your apps, documents and settings. It worked well for me.
Remember to add the "old" drive to the exclusions list for Spotlight and Time Machine, and unmount it on boot. Use it a week or two this way so you can make absolutely sure you aren't using anything on the old drive. Eventually you can pull the plug so to speak and use it as a seconday backup (I use CCC to clone the drive periodically and Time Machine for backups whenever I'm home and connected to the NAS).
SunTrust was $7.95 or so; I have an account. Wal-Mart was around $10 -- you guessed that one.
I happen to notice a bluescreened or malfunctioning ATM at least once or twice a month. Not sure if it's the population here or what.
Agreed. The thing that disappoints me most about the Wii is the crappy store. It's as useless as the built-in browser.
Add a progress bar for downloads, change the entire layout so that navigating from one page to the next isn't so time-consuming, use an interface that resembles any other standard interface (even a bad one would be better than the current one), show "new" items easier, include search, include demo games, etc.
Nintendo could be making money hand-over-fist via the store if they could get it right. After getting burned several times buying console games that were fairly highly rated but disliking them, I don't buy many console games anymore. I guess I could go to the trouble of renting them to try them out or buying a GameFly subscription, but that's more bother than it's worth to me and I don't game regularly. Give me a downloadable, playable demo that can be upgraded easily to the full version so that when I'm available to play I can actually play something interesting to me.
I buy prepaid cards as gifts at least once or twice a year and it's not been that expensive. Setup fees have typically been in the $8-10 range; at that price I just make sure the cards are at least $100. Since the recipients use them for short-term purchases, monthly fees aren't an issue.
There are few valid excuses to being poor, and this isn't one of them. Lifestyle choices (don't buy the cigarettes, beer, fast food, cable TV, "spinner rims", large gold jewelry, car spoilers, designer clothes) would seem to result in much larger savings, enough to easily offset these bank setup fees.
Thanks to both of you for mentioning this!
Yes, these are the same people who stuff their plates at buffets then leave them barely touched while they get up from the table to get more food. I understand in some societies there is a belief of equating this with power or prestige, but it sickens me when I see it. Gluttony is not pretty.
Hampton Inn, SE US (Atlanta GA, Chattanooga TN, Palm Beach FL), $150-$250 a night, has a microwave, fridge, iron, coffee maker, etc. Other hotels such as Doubletree do the same thing. In many places you can get a much nicer Hampton Inn room for a little more than a crappy Holiday Inn room, and stays at the Hampton include complimentary weekday 5 pm drinks (beer and wine), free newspaper (usually USA Today) delivered to your door each morning, hot breakfast buffet, weight room, shared computer, wireless internet, breakfast-in-a-bag (Otis Spunkmeyer muffin, banana or apple, random packaged item such as a granola bar), and fresh baked cookies around 7pm every night.
I don't have any special connection with the Hampton, but I've always had excellent service with them and the one in Palm Beach at Okeechobee and Jog is especially nice.
Thanks! I will have to check that out.
Many thanks.
Forgive my ignorance, but why not KVM instead of Xen? And assuming you have a complicated setup with bunches of scripts, mounts, etc, how do you image the entire thing? We have to schedule off-hour downtime to do a snapshot (everything except data) for our internal servers since a new install / config from scratch would take too long for recovery -- but that involves a lot of control that you may or may not have in a "cloud" situation.
+1 Insightful. The Playstation would never have acquired the market share it has without PSN. People would have bought something else. It's a major part of the promotion of the product.
Netflix streaming only is like $8 per month, and the "1 out" makes it $10 or so. Why waste time making a list when you could be watching the movies today?
I wish we still had Redbox units around here -- the nearby ones are now Blockbuster which are horrible. These replacements are considerably slower to browse, they rent out only 3 videos at a time instead of 4 (makes a difference with kids), and when you finally check out, the vend time is outrageous -- literally a minute or two standing there per movie.
I use Netflix instead.
I typed "HP printer linux support" in Google and the very first result was this page, which lists the "more than 1200" HP printers supported in Linux. Additional info would be from the CUPS project, Gutenprint, or other sources.
http://www.hp.com/wwsolutions/linux/products/printing_imaging/index.html
HP Blades ship with no OS as default. It's only their lower-end DL- and ML- servers and SOHO stuff that ships with an OS preinstalled.