System programming is done with C because it is a pretty lcean abstraction away from the hardware. Assembly is the cleanest, but C maps pretty well onto assembly that maps pretty well onto what the processor actaully implements.
This is important because the programmer has some idea of what the program is actaully doing, and a good programmer has a great idea of what the program is actually doing.
Anything that is pretty close to the hardware should be done in C or soemthing similar. Computers have been fucked up enough by people who don't actually realize how computers work and just right code that works rather than being sleek or taking advantage of the tasks that computers are good at.
As a hardware person, any time someone talks about using higher level languages for system programming, it makes me want to go postal.
you know.. i disagree with almost every single piece of support that you use, but I wholeheartidly agree with the basic argument that both systems suck in practice.
I'm not sure who I'm going to vote for. There is no way that I am voting for either bush or nader, and I'm open to all other options. Any helpful resources that you could point me towards?
this is one of the gaps between theory and practice
in theory, they know corps are bad and should be punished or shrunk
but that is a lot of capital to move around.. as in socialist revolution of the world, all the workers unite type level.
I just can't see it working out.
The ways that the rules are currently set, the laws that could be changed would allow the corps to take control long before we could tweak the constitution enough to maybe protect people.
one of the main things that always ticks me off with it is that the initial justification for how the world works was completely reliant on christianity. Later revisions have dropped the religious aspect, but they never replaced it. It also incorporates a lot of conflicting ideas (depending on implementation) that need fancy arguments to sustain the theory.
"I'm all for smaller government, less intrusion into personal matters, etc."
something about this is that under libertarianism, you have no protection from corperations. While it would not be fit for the government to spy on you, or take over 100% of the airways (because they could make better use of them, and at thattime they weren't claimed..) private rich jackasses and their companies could and would do this.
I loke a lot of the basic ideas in libertarianism, but whenever I really try to sit down and think about what the world would be like, I always come to the conclusion that using the principles outlined, the result would be very negative.
it is also strongly based on an open world model, which may again work if we start flying about the galaxy, but we are running low on resources, and under libertarianism, anything that isn't claimed by a person who is using it can be claimed by someone who can use it. so all of our natioal forests would be junked in days. There is no way to limit consumption because that goes against the core ideas, so we'd run through resources as quickly as possible in order to last longer than the poor suckers next to us. Future generations would be screwed. but it would be interesting until that happened.
Locke was living at a time where they had jsut discovered a whole new world where no one cared about the people living there and it appeared to have unlimited resources. In that environment, I can see how he would look at unlimited resources as a valid assumption, but in 2004 I can't really see how one could say that.
I also think that libertarians would set a new record for quickest party to be bought out by corporations. with all of the media and funding restrictions removed, they could finally merge into one huge dystopian metacorp that would run the whole world with its killer robots with ion beam eyes, walking through NY scorching all of the umbrellas in peoples' drinks. Err, scratch that last bit.
I'm kinda fucked by our current system in that I think that there is a positive right to life, that this would benifet everyone and that we ought to be economically responsible and that we have a moral duty to go back to our country's original intent of fucking over all huge corporations and limiting them to their charters. (we revolted more against the Mass. Bay company and the like than the king.. one thing that has been forgotten)
So, I'll probably vote for kerry because I hate bush so much, but I'll wash my hands 20 times after I do so
um.. uh, sorry to break this too ya, but in the olden days, journalists were just open about being one sided. The whole thing about being accurate and impartial is a newfangled thing.
please please please please read some locke to understand where librertarianism comes from. It sounds good at first, but once you start digging about its roots, you may begin to notice some stuff missing.
you have the overhead of keeping the process at the correct temperature. Kinda like vacuum tubes and transistors (well, not really, but close enough). One of the reasons that transistors are so much better is that you don't have the overhead of keeping the tube heated at 450V
I'm looking to do a very simple game for myself as a hobby and this fits what I need perfectly. I was going to use something very outdated before I saw this. I doubt I"ll ever create anything worth releasing, but you just greatly aided my learning, which is the goal anyways (-:
really innovative stuff. I.E. render faster, better, bigger than ID's products, or at LEAST as good
_This_ is why OSS games don't work. (-: OSS could have a minor hit with a game that is addictive as crack, but decent graphics. Not Doom 3 hit, but tyrian or commander keen type hit. Making it pretty really isn't that important
nah, we'll stick more on every chip (hence more heat) until it becomes so horribly overkill for every home user that no one can justify the cutting edge to play Doom 6. (so it'll be a little while, but my guess is in our lifetime)
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oh come on 0.A.Fa is totally readable
Next you'll be telling me that 2'b00, 2'b01: a ? c : 1; is hard to read
yeash.. people these days (-:
What about all of the user privaledge escalation holes in windows?
System programming is done with C because it is a pretty lcean abstraction away from the hardware. Assembly is the cleanest, but C maps pretty well onto assembly that maps pretty well onto what the processor actaully implements.
This is important because the programmer has some idea of what the program is actaully doing, and a good programmer has a great idea of what the program is actually doing.
Anything that is pretty close to the hardware should be done in C or soemthing similar. Computers have been fucked up enough by people who don't actually realize how computers work and just right code that works rather than being sleek or taking advantage of the tasks that computers are good at.
As a hardware person, any time someone talks about using higher level languages for system programming, it makes me want to go postal.
We are nerds, right? why not use HEX? Version 0.A
you know.. i disagree with almost every single piece of support that you use, but I wholeheartidly agree with the basic argument that both systems suck in practice.
what a strange world
I'm not sure who I'm going to vote for. There is no way that I am voting for either bush or nader, and I'm open to all other options. Any helpful resources that you could point me towards?
this is one of the gaps between theory and practice
in theory, they know corps are bad and should be punished or shrunk
but that is a lot of capital to move around.. as in socialist revolution of the world, all the workers unite type level.
I just can't see it working out.
The ways that the rules are currently set, the laws that could be changed would allow the corps to take control long before we could tweak the constitution enough to maybe protect people.
one of the main things that always ticks me off with it is that the initial justification for how the world works was completely reliant on christianity. Later revisions have dropped the religious aspect, but they never replaced it. It also incorporates a lot of conflicting ideas (depending on implementation) that need fancy arguments to sustain the theory.
"I'm all for smaller government, less intrusion into personal matters, etc."
something about this is that under libertarianism, you have no protection from corperations. While it would not be fit for the government to spy on you, or take over 100% of the airways (because they could make better use of them, and at thattime they weren't claimed..) private rich jackasses and their companies could and would do this.
I loke a lot of the basic ideas in libertarianism, but whenever I really try to sit down and think about what the world would be like, I always come to the conclusion that using the principles outlined, the result would be very negative.
it is also strongly based on an open world model, which may again work if we start flying about the galaxy, but we are running low on resources, and under libertarianism, anything that isn't claimed by a person who is using it can be claimed by someone who can use it. so all of our natioal forests would be junked in days. There is no way to limit consumption because that goes against the core ideas, so we'd run through resources as quickly as possible in order to last longer than the poor suckers next to us. Future generations would be screwed. but it would be interesting until that happened.
Locke was living at a time where they had jsut discovered a whole new world where no one cared about the people living there and it appeared to have unlimited resources. In that environment, I can see how he would look at unlimited resources as a valid assumption, but in 2004 I can't really see how one could say that.
I also think that libertarians would set a new record for quickest party to be bought out by corporations. with all of the media and funding restrictions removed, they could finally merge into one huge dystopian metacorp that would run the whole world with its killer robots with ion beam eyes, walking through NY scorching all of the umbrellas in peoples' drinks. Err, scratch that last bit.
I'm kinda fucked by our current system in that I think that there is a positive right to life, that this would benifet everyone and that we ought to be economically responsible and that we have a moral duty to go back to our country's original intent of fucking over all huge corporations and limiting them to their charters. (we revolted more against the Mass. Bay company and the like than the king.. one thing that has been forgotten)
So, I'll probably vote for kerry because I hate bush so much, but I'll wash my hands 20 times after I do so
um.. uh, sorry to break this too ya, but in the olden days, journalists were just open about being one sided. The whole thing about being accurate and impartial is a newfangled thing.
please please please please read some locke to understand where librertarianism comes from. It sounds good at first, but once you start digging about its roots, you may begin to notice some stuff missing.
sideways. It still takes up two slots and needs a fan though.
I want 2 AGP slots just so that I can have 4 monitors without having to use PCI
oddly enough, that is sorta how I feel. Whenever I have to work in windows I realize how many of the apps I use just aren't available.
only 1/3rd of the apps in my dock have a windows port
I have my mousewheel click as apple click so that it works to open a link as a new tab.
It was really tempting to make it apple-V, but I still wouldn't be able to copy via highlighting
you have the overhead of keeping the process at the correct temperature. Kinda like vacuum tubes and transistors (well, not really, but close enough). One of the reasons that transistors are so much better is that you don't have the overhead of keeping the tube heated at 450V
It is a woman in a tub doing scatological(sp?) things, who has easten plenty of ruffage and has impressive distance
not linked on purpose, if you want to see that shit, then you shouldn't just be randomly clicking (-:
http://images.google.com/images?q=tubgirl&ie=UTF-8 &hl=en&btnG=Google+Search
Though you are technically correct, there are no highways or railroads leading to Hawaii.
Yeah.. 2 that I know.. 0 that I like
If it makes you feel any better, I'm 19 and I only know two of them
Wow, thank you greatly
I'm looking to do a very simple game for myself as a hobby and this fits what I need perfectly. I was going to use something very outdated before I saw this. I doubt I"ll ever create anything worth releasing, but you just greatly aided my learning, which is the goal anyways (-:
really innovative stuff. I.E. render faster, better, bigger than ID's products, or at LEAST as good
_This_ is why OSS games don't work. (-: OSS could have a minor hit with a game that is addictive as crack, but decent graphics. Not Doom 3 hit, but tyrian or commander keen type hit. Making it pretty really isn't that important
make a loop in your left hand of the cable
place the loop so that you can only see one wire of it (as in looking at it sideways, 3 feet in front of you
slice with the knife across to your right
if you slip, the knife goes harmlessly not into you
(not being snottty.. i've just cut myself too
nah, we'll stick more on every chip (hence more heat) until it becomes so horribly overkill for every home user that no one can justify the cutting edge to play Doom 6. (so it'll be a little while, but my guess is in our lifetime)