thank you! i'm glad i'm not the only crazy person thinking this.... esp. when the j2ee spec changes every 6 months. (just came off a huge EJB project, moved from ejb 1.0 to 1.1 to 2.0, used code generation, etc... )
slashdot has lowered my grammar expectations to the point that I thought the headline was supposed to be "Phantasy Star Online Dreamcast Servers TOO Close" (proximity)...
didn't figure it out on my own, but yeah, that brings back memories... we'd usually start the race off agreeing to "no cheating" and then sooner or later, someone would go over the wall, accompanied by "hey...how come i'm in 2nd place all of a sudden? HEY! YOU ASSHOLE!":]
I tried to code one of these once, my system was designed to correlate which songs I typically played in sequence..for instance, if I allowed song A to play, then B, then C, it would also assume that it was ok to play A and then C.. correspondingly, if I once played A, then skipped B when it came on, but allowed C to play after A, then it would also assume that B to C was not a good transition. Seems reasonable, right? the problem is, some days A to B is good..some days it's not.
In the end, I realized the system would never work when I realized that *I* did not know what i wanted to listen to at any particular moment, so how the hell was I going to code a system which could decide?? As a previous poster said, our moods vary too much for this sort of system to work, at least for those of us who are very very picky...(I don't put on "background" music..if i'm playing music, i'm listening to it intently)
as I recall they have some sort of confirmation process... I think. (been a while since i set mine up). If they don't, they certainly need one... something like they send a specific message to your phone, and you have to confirm that you got the message somewhere so they know it's your phone.
[Really? All you need is a nice persistance layer like Toplink. It creates and manages the a abstraction you need]
I checked it out, sounds like an interesting product, but for one reason or another, we're not using it. As such, we're forced to deal with creating schemas for DB2, Oracle, etc, on our own. Would Toplink work perfectly if we used it? I doubt it, though it might be an improvement. That still leaves the issue of migrating your beans between EJBServers (websphere->weblogic). Our beans didn't even migrate cleanly from Websphere4 to Websphere5, despite the supposed ejb1.1 compliance support.
[And you use Java? I'm sure what you just said was exactly what Gosling had in mind...]
Believe it or not, Java does not platform agnostic. Designed to be, yes. But there are many subtleties (bugs, if you prefer) in various platform implementations that mean you can't just write your application on windows and ship it out to the customer. You *have* to test all the platforms your going to support. And if it's client/server, all the *combinations* you support.
I had the same attitude when I started here: "it's java, why are we testing on Solaris/AIX/etc? It'll work" Wrong-o.
Let alone this MDA concept where the implementation code might be java, might be C++, might be C#.
I'm working on a large project at a big blue colored company in which we use UML models coupled with a code generator to target EJB deployment. Let's just say getting the models and code generator correct for ONE distributed architecture is bad enough. I don't want to think about trying to get it working for multiple deployment platforms.
And let's face it, the idea of writing your EJB and then deploying it on any EJBServer using any DB backend is a pipedream as well. So consider the problems with that, then imagine multiplying them by the number of different distributed architectures you want to support...forget it.
What's the point of all this anyway? Abstraction isn't always needed... the appropriate platform, code for it, optimize for it, test on it. Don't target 5 when you only need 1.
I know this sounds a little crazy, but what if someone wrote a VoIP app for one of these phones (for instance the new 7135 smartphone that's coming out soon). Now you can use your unlimited data connectivity (doesn't burn your voice minutes) and make voice phone calls all day, at peak times, without incurring any extra costs!
I'm sure you'd be hard pressed to cram a VoIP app on one of these weak processors, but the time may come....
*Animated* Gifs.. that means (presumably) Gifs and jpegs will work just fine. Still a lot of stuff to rule out support for, but it's not as bad as plain hypertext.
you've truly taken karma to a higher level... now, not only is it possible to make a typical karma boosting slashdot effect joke for hammered servers, we can even get a karma boost when the site *isn't* even slashdotted.. awesome!:)
This is exactly the point raised by Asimov in one of his book series.. there was a set of humans that, due to the planets they were living on, had 200 year life spans.. at one point, a group of "normal" humans in a spaceship threatens to ram a group of "supernormals"... the ploy works because the normal humans are only risking a few decades of life, while the supernormals have a century or more at risk, so they back down.... The virtue of life being (relatively) "cheap" makes us more likely to do exciting, interesting things...
I don't think this would work since winamp can fill that buffer faster than realtime. The point of the buffer is to have some ready audio if the system gets bogged down, but with a modern processor, it can fill that buffer much much faster (if it couldn't, it could never create a buffer in the first place...think about it)
I listened to tele2330.mp3 and there is some major bass going on there... i find it hard to believe a cell phone speaker could put that out, so is there any chance this was augmented with other instruments?
Slashdot Mirror
I found the spoof far more interesting/amusing than the main page..oh well, something for everyone i suppose.
thank you! i'm glad i'm not the only crazy person thinking this.... esp. when the j2ee spec changes every 6 months. (just came off a huge EJB project, moved from ejb 1.0 to 1.1 to 2.0, used code generation, etc... )
slashdot has lowered my grammar expectations to the point that I thought the headline was supposed to be "Phantasy Star Online Dreamcast Servers TOO Close" (proximity)...
didn't figure it out on my own, but yeah, that brings back memories... we'd usually start the race off agreeing to "no cheating" and then sooner or later, someone would go over the wall, accompanied by "hey...how come i'm in 2nd place all of a sudden? HEY! YOU ASSHOLE!" :]
When the power's out, it won't be interfering with the Ham radios anyway! :]
I tried to code one of these once, my system was designed to correlate which songs I typically played in sequence..for instance, if I allowed song A to play, then B, then C, it would also assume that it was ok to play A and then C.. correspondingly, if I once played A, then skipped B when it came on, but allowed C to play after A, then it would also assume that B to C was not a good transition. Seems reasonable, right? the problem is, some days A to B is good..some days it's not.
In the end, I realized the system would never work when I realized that *I* did not know what i wanted to listen to at any particular moment, so how the hell was I going to code a system which could decide?? As a previous poster said, our moods vary too much for this sort of system to work, at least for those of us who are very very picky...(I don't put on "background" music..if i'm playing music, i'm listening to it intently)
umm, presumably you'd still have to log in to the system. No worse than having telnet (or ssh) open.
is it just me or does it seem unlikely that this :]
technology will *ever* exist?
I presume they're selling this? Did you see a price before the site went down?
thanks.
Actually, I once saw a patent plaque for a method to handle undo in software, hanging on the walls at IBM's main software group building.
So you may be too late. (surprised? not really)
or does this sound like the beginning of a bad scifi movie that ends with large, rampaging monsters destroying Tokyo?
Set all the values identical and have it predict the winner...someone forgot to code the "tie" case. Not much of an expert if you ask me.
as I recall they have some sort of confirmation process... I think. (been a while since i set mine up). If they don't, they certainly need one... something like they send a specific message to your phone, and you have to confirm that you got the message somewhere so they know it's your phone.
[Really? All you need is a nice persistance layer like Toplink. It creates and manages the a
abstraction you need]
I checked it out, sounds like an interesting product, but for one reason or another, we're not using it. As such, we're forced to deal with creating schemas for DB2, Oracle, etc, on our own. Would Toplink work perfectly if we used it? I doubt it, though it might be an improvement. That still leaves the issue of migrating your beans between EJBServers (websphere->weblogic). Our beans didn't even migrate cleanly from Websphere4 to Websphere5, despite the supposed ejb1.1 compliance support.
[And you use Java? I'm sure what you just said was exactly what Gosling had in mind...]
Believe it or not, Java does not platform agnostic. Designed to be, yes. But there are many subtleties (bugs, if you prefer) in various platform implementations that mean you can't just write your application on windows and ship it out to the customer. You *have* to test all the platforms your going to support. And if it's client/server, all the *combinations* you support.
I had the same attitude when I started here: "it's java, why are we testing on Solaris/AIX/etc? It'll work" Wrong-o.
Let alone this MDA concept where the implementation code might be java, might be C++, might be C#.
I'm working on a large project at a big blue colored company in which we use UML models coupled with a code generator to target EJB deployment. Let's just say getting the models and code generator correct for ONE distributed architecture is bad enough. I don't want to think about trying to get it working for multiple deployment platforms.
And let's face it, the idea of writing your EJB and then deploying it on any EJBServer using any DB backend is a pipedream as well. So consider the problems with that, then imagine multiplying them by the number of different distributed architectures you want to support...forget it.
What's the point of all this anyway? Abstraction isn't always needed... the appropriate platform, code for it, optimize for it, test on it. Don't target 5 when you only need 1.
I know this sounds a little crazy, but what if someone wrote a VoIP app for one of these phones (for instance the new 7135 smartphone that's coming out soon). Now you can use your unlimited data connectivity (doesn't burn your voice minutes) and make voice phone calls all day, at peak times, without incurring any extra costs!
I'm sure you'd be hard pressed to cram a VoIP app on one of these weak processors, but the time may come....
the 300 minutes is peak (7am-9pm weekdays?)..these plans have unlimited off peak minutes.
:) )
And as the other poster said, using Vision data services doesn't count against your minutes.
(so really what we need is a VOIP solution for your phone
http://www.palmblvd.com/software/pc/The-Plucker-Te am-2001-3-30-palm-pc.html
it will convert any web page into a palm db and it has a browser... i haven't tried it but it sounds like it does what you want.
*Animated* Gifs.. that means (presumably) Gifs and jpegs will work just fine. Still a lot of stuff to rule out support for, but it's not as bad as plain hypertext.
you've truly taken karma to a higher level... now, not only is it possible to make a typical karma boosting slashdot effect joke for hammered servers, we can even get a karma boost when the site *isn't* even slashdotted.. awesome! :)
This is exactly the point raised by Asimov in one of his book series.. there was a set of humans that, due to the planets they were living on, had 200 year life spans.. at one point, a group of "normal" humans in a spaceship threatens to ram a group of "supernormals"... the ploy works because the normal humans are only risking a few decades of life, while the supernormals have a century or more at risk, so they back down.... The virtue of life being (relatively) "cheap" makes us more likely to do exciting, interesting things...
I don't think this would work since winamp can fill that buffer faster than realtime. The point of the buffer is to have some ready audio if the system gets bogged down, but with a modern processor, it can fill that buffer much much faster (if it couldn't, it could never create a buffer in the first place...think about it)
a melting webserver.
ah hah! makes much more sense now... thanks.
I listened to tele2330.mp3 and there is some major bass going on there... i find it hard to believe a cell phone speaker could put that out, so is there any chance this was augmented with other instruments?