Depends really. If they used golly once in a blue moon I'd be fine, it they used it as often as the work fuck ya I wouldn't watch it. it wasn't the word by itself which caused me to turn it off more of using in such a manner which detracted from the overall enjoyment of the show
I'd rather have a show with swearing and good writing vs. swearing and bad writing or no swearing and bad writing
I remember quite well. I remember swearing tons. And I remember the consequences of when I was caught. Now when I was a teenager (back in the early nineties) the Internet as it is today had not taken off. Email was seen as a dorky thing and BBSs were great. Moderation galore. Most places I was on abuse = goodbye and yoru name went to all the other BBSs.
Now fast forward to this day and age how much consequence is there for their actions and I think that's the difference.
I think when you have a situation where swearing is appropriate to the movie/show/etc then it works. When it just seems to use it after every other word I think it shows a lack of imagination on the writers part. I need a verb...fuck...I need a name...fuck...I need a subject...fuck. Ya know? A lot of swearing in DeadWood just seemed out of place and ruined the actual conversations..
There was some show on HBO awhile back called DeadWoor (or something) basically set during thr gold rush era. My fiance and I watched one show and that was it. The language was so hrash and so often it took away from our enjoyment.
Now I am used to bad language woked many years in a Bar as a bouncer/bartender. But even that show was too much for me.
I don't have to prove anything. You hacked the 360, you broke the rules for live. You now have to prove it CAN NEVER EVER be used for an exploit. Will you guarantee that with your life?
Again to use XBoX LIVE you have to follow the rules. You break them you are gone. It's not a matter of well I only broke this one little rule...
If you want his product then it has value to you. If something has value to you then you are willing to barter for it or will take it. Your morals will dictate which path you choose.
Let's look at the other side. How many subscribers would they LOSE if they allowed modified Xboxes to stay on the system? All of my friends with 360s would jump ship.
"That _is_ kind of a dumb analogy, considering "modding" your Xbox360, or in this case re-flashing the optical drive firmware gives you no advantage over "the playing field"
Its not like flashing the drive lets you run cheats or install your aimbot. The only playing field in question is shelling out $50 for the games.
"
Prove it. You can't.
Prove this hack doesn't allow any other hacks to be run. Are you 100% no hacks exist, are you sure right now a hack is being developed off the exploit. Are you sure no hack in the future will ever exist off this exploit? Of course you can't be sure.
That's why they ban any modded Xboxes. You are thinking well right this second nothing bad can be done, they are thinking ya but what about 1 second from now...1 min...1 day....1 month.
Again the rules are simple: 50 bucks a year no modded 360's. Follow them or get banned.
"However, what if I toiled away hours on end trying to sell something that had no value based on its level of scarcity? Would you say I was foolish?"
And with that the entire market for people trying to sell their work goes down the drain. The value of software is not defined by its scarcity (as it has none). Its value is determined by a) how much it will help you and b) and cost of development, support, infrastructure, salaries, etc.
If you want his product then it has value to you. If something has value to you then you are willing to barter for it or will take it. Your morals will dictate which path you choose.
As someone who has a 360 and had a silver account (the free one) then got a gold let me give you some facts:
1. Console updates are given to anyone.
2. You may download free stuff with either account
3. Some content (free) may first be only available to gold members then to silver.
4. You must have gold to play multiplayer.
5. You can buy extra content without having a gold membership
Look playing on xbox live has a set of rules. Like playing in the NBA, NFL, Nascar, etc,etc. Don't complain cause you get banned because you are no longer on the same level, doesn't matter what the "hack" is, want to play on live it costs 50 bucks a year and you can't mod your 360. Don't want to follow the rules then don't play.
Dumb analogy complaining sports have substance abuse rules. Why not let athletes who have been loaded up on steroids compete against those who trained without them?
If I wasn't losing so much to taxes I would have more money to invest, save, etc for rainy days (aka not having a job). And you are right people's gross pay will be lower to offset the cost. Businesses aren't dumb. And unemployment isn't a guarantee either, you get fired for stealing or what not guess what you aren't getting.
I didn't go with Cobra took the gamble. No pre existing conditions for me so I was lucky. But ya I feel that pain.
And if you are a person who doesn't agree with unemployment then lower the taxes a lot first. My last pay check 33% want to taxes. So I work almost two days a week to pay taxes. Now if that was much lower I could save more and in down times wouldn't be as big of an issue
As for goolging I think it is fine. However what I wish is that any background search a company does on you they must:
a. Give you a copy of everything they find
b. Allow you to explain any of it, if it is true.
c. If they don't hire you because of something from B that is not to be true a way to be compensated from that company. The internet is full of truths and lies. You want to use it to judge me fine, but the flip side is if you judge me wrong you should have a consequence for such action.
1. Usenet postings of me asking for help with perl 5.0, Zope 1.0beta, and a few other linux questions back around 2001. Ok I knew about those.
2. A webpage showing I was a quality tester for the game Prey, now my name is just listed as a quality play tester, but I had no clue it was up there. Now of course I knew being a play tester my name would be in the manual which pretty much guaranteed my name on some webpage. But this was new to me as of today.
And what if he had been these play testers where horrible to work with, did a bad job (though in this case I volunteered for a friend who works for that company), etc. how would that reflect one me?
While I agree with the firing/hiting and double taxation I disagree with unemployment. My story:
Working for a company in the UK (only 40 people os nice and small), they partnered with a University in the states to develop software for phase 2 to 3 clinical drug trials. The University wanted someone on site to do business requirements, training, writing documentation, UAT, support and installation. I got the job. Pretty slick, own suite, at the customer site in an Academia settings 10 mins form where I lived.
So for the first year things are going ok, turns out sr. mgmt. had made lots of promises before I was hired and now the developers and I were taking flak for things we had zero control over. But still the directors of this part of the university where very impressed with me and told me so. We had a very strong working relationship.
Of course it blew up. What happened well some of my company's board of directors told the clients board of directors they were going to rewrite the contract, charge more, a few days before the contract was going to be signed. The customer was pissed. So pissed in fact that come last August the University said I could no longer continue the business requirements phase of the next project I was doing for the, (aka no talking to university employees about the project, anything else was fine). Again the customers board of directors, Scott your work is top notch, just your company's BOD has done a shitty thing, we are trying to work it out.
2 months later we get a new CEO who decides he doesn't want to enter this market and focus in on another area. So he tells the customer sorry the BOD dicked you over, we have to end this relationship, shut down the office and end of Nov. my job is done with one month of severance.
So lets recap so far I did an awesome job, personal references all the directors from one of the biggest academia reading centers for clinical drug trials, personal references from my company's BOD (though not all I wanted especially the ones that caused this shit storm), and yet for 0 fault of my own I have no job. Oh the people who caused this mess still have jobs.
So here I am trying to find a job during the holidays (ya good luck with that), well this turns into mid January no job. I finally get a job offer end of Jan. they want to know right away. I need a few more days for personal family issues, oops to bad rescinded the offer. WTF? Cause I have personal family issues you cant give me a few days? Shows I wasn't "serious"...ya right.
Few more months pass, fiancé gets a job out of state I follow and now doing contract work. Have 4 months of where no money came in. Least there will be unemployment money to help me out to offset the cost.
Which is why when you do unemployment they ask you why you left your last job. If you get fired for incompetence, drug use, etc. it makes it a lot harder to get if any at all. If you are fired because you get a great job (again when you have personal references from all the directors most being very well published doctors) but your BOD fucked you over you get the money.
I'd have a nice big dent in my savings if it weren't for unemployment. Getting fired during the holidays isn't easy to find a new job everyone is on vacation. So tell me what else could I have done? Can't sure the BOD members who screwed up, can't sue the company for dicking me over, since I can't do that at least I have some assistance to fall back on.
A lot of my friends have this game and no one plays it anymore because it's pretty quick to beat. And we aren't acheviement junkies....so goets old quickly
Then we will have to agree to disagree. Learning a computer is not a survival skill at all.br>
Why don't we teach everyone how to farm that is the ultimate survival skill (throw some hunting and gathering in there too). If society crumbles how many people can fend for themselves?
If you can't afford to pay rent, get food, get your needed meds, you sure as heck aren't going to waste time to learn how to operate a computer. If you have enough free time and money to do that then count your blessings.
Not all jobs require computer skills or computer tech. And if you really want to open a can of worms define computer skills. Email, word processing, installing an OS, etc, etc? Does somebody who can barely use the OS but a master of Excel less computer skilled then someone who knows all about the OS but nothing about excel and being able to manipulate and read data?
Anyone may be able to learn anything. However because you can't learn everything there is to learn you have to pick and choose.
"People who choose not to learn how to use a computer when their lives would be improved through that knowledge (either in terms of employment opportunities or, seriously, basic survival skills [for example, using a publicly available computer at a town library or somesuch to research options for public assistance]) are acting in a stupid manner."
I don't equate with using a computer to survival skills. It helps a lot agreed but again some people are not in positions that they can or will learn the computer. If person A doesn't get a benefit from learning X they won't learn X and learn something else that will help them.
Now if your argument is that people who need to learn the computer don't [say for their job] refuse to do so because it's hard/scary/whatever then ya I would agree with you that those select people are being dumb.
However I believe (with no evidence what so ever and making wild guesses just based on experience with the small people I know, and of course this means nothing either) that most people have no desire to learn the computer because they would rather do other things in their life.
People who are poor are trying to focus on surviving?
Or there is so much information you can only learn so much? I have a masters degree in the IT world but knowledge of house construction is nil. So am I lazy? Ok I learn about houses, then cars, boats, farming, doctor stuff, etc. Oh wait I have a life outside of work, one can only learn so much.
Or the cost/benefit of technology doesn't add up for an individual? And by cost I don't just mean cash, I mean the time, maintenance, etc. of the tech item.
OR here is a crazy idea...people have other interests then technology that fulfill there lives?
My fiancé does neuroscience research, can you talk to at the absolute lowest level of neuron functionality? You can't? You must be lazy not to have learned that.
What people fail to realize is Tech toys are WANTS not NEEDS.
The middle class is dying. Which means they are the rich and the poor and what's in between is shrinking very fast. And the poor have more to worry about then if they can read/.
I don't follow you at all. XP/Vista's design are bad because hitting a key called delete prompts for you to answer did you mean to delete the item(S) and if you click yes it does?
But to delete under OS X i hold command and delete and that makes more sense?
A user sees a delete key, they assume when they press it the computer will confirm they want to delete the item. THey accept/dent and the action occurs.
Ummm then a keyboard should have no keys since any key could be dangerous depending on what applications might be open.
My workaround is my keyboard plugs into my monitors USB ports, when the monitor is off so is the keyboard (and anything else plugged in). No worry about cats hittings keys or mice (and I have 2 cats).
I wonder if they have taken into consideration the age of the audience when doing stuff like this. What I mean as we get older our ability to clearly hear certain sounds diminishes. A sad fact of life.
So I wonder when they take specs like this to build systems they go well our target audience is X years old so 90% of them don't need as good of quality in the sound so we can build something still good but cheaper because we don't need to use the 80% of the time to get the final 5% of sound?
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Depends really. If they used golly once in a blue moon I'd be fine, it they used it as often as the work fuck ya I wouldn't watch it. it wasn't the word by itself which caused me to turn it off more of using in such a manner which detracted from the overall enjoyment of the show
I'd rather have a show with swearing and good writing vs. swearing and bad writing or no swearing and bad writing
I remember quite well. I remember swearing tons. And I remember the consequences of when I was caught. Now when I was a teenager (back in the early nineties) the Internet as it is today had not taken off. Email was seen as a dorky thing and BBSs were great. Moderation galore. Most places I was on abuse = goodbye and yoru name went to all the other BBSs.
Now fast forward to this day and age how much consequence is there for their actions and I think that's the difference.
No I don't think that's it.
my 2 cents:
I think when you have a situation where swearing is appropriate to the movie/show/etc then it works. When it just seems to use it after every other word I think it shows a lack of imagination on the writers part. I need a verb...fuck...I need a name...fuck...I need a subject...fuck. Ya know? A lot of swearing in DeadWood just seemed out of place and ruined the actual conversations..
Oh ya that's it. As I said watched it only once...
There was some show on HBO awhile back called DeadWoor (or something) basically set during thr gold rush era. My fiance and I watched one show and that was it. The language was so hrash and so often it took away from our enjoyment.
Now I am used to bad language woked many years in a Bar as a bouncer/bartender. But even that show was too much for me.
I don't have to prove anything. You hacked the 360, you broke the rules for live. You now have to prove it CAN NEVER EVER be used for an exploit. Will you guarantee that with your life?
Again to use XBoX LIVE you have to follow the rules. You break them you are gone. It's not a matter of well I only broke this one little rule...
If you want his product then it has value to you. If something has value to you then you are willing to barter for it or will take it. Your morals will dictate which path you choose. Let's look at the other side. How many subscribers would they LOSE if they allowed modified Xboxes to stay on the system? All of my friends with 360s would jump ship.
"That _is_ kind of a dumb analogy, considering "modding" your Xbox360, or in this case re-flashing the optical drive firmware gives you no advantage over "the playing field" Its not like flashing the drive lets you run cheats or install your aimbot. The only playing field in question is shelling out $50 for the games. "
Prove it. You can't.
Prove this hack doesn't allow any other hacks to be run. Are you 100% no hacks exist, are you sure right now a hack is being developed off the exploit. Are you sure no hack in the future will ever exist off this exploit? Of course you can't be sure.
That's why they ban any modded Xboxes. You are thinking well right this second nothing bad can be done, they are thinking ya but what about 1 second from now...1 min...1 day....1 month.
Again the rules are simple: 50 bucks a year no modded 360's. Follow them or get banned.
"However, what if I toiled away hours on end trying to sell something that had no value based on its level of scarcity? Would you say I was foolish?"
And with that the entire market for people trying to sell their work goes down the drain. The value of software is not defined by its scarcity (as it has none). Its value is determined by a) how much it will help you and b) and cost of development, support, infrastructure, salaries, etc.
If you want his product then it has value to you. If something has value to you then you are willing to barter for it or will take it. Your morals will dictate which path you choose.
it is off by default (on a clean install). Companies may have turned it on as a corporate setting though.
As someone who has a 360 and had a silver account (the free one) then got a gold let me give you some facts:
,etc. Don't complain cause you get banned because you are no longer on the same level, doesn't matter what the "hack" is, want to play on live it costs 50 bucks a year and you can't mod your 360. Don't want to follow the rules then don't play.
1. Console updates are given to anyone.
2. You may download free stuff with either account
3. Some content (free) may first be only available to gold members then to silver.
4. You must have gold to play multiplayer.
5. You can buy extra content without having a gold membership
Look playing on xbox live has a set of rules. Like playing in the NBA, NFL, Nascar, etc
Dumb analogy complaining sports have substance abuse rules. Why not let athletes who have been loaded up on steroids compete against those who trained without them?
I know that my point is...
If I wasn't losing so much to taxes I would have more money to invest, save, etc for rainy days (aka not having a job). And you are right people's gross pay will be lower to offset the cost. Businesses aren't dumb. And unemployment isn't a guarantee either, you get fired for stealing or what not guess what you aren't getting.
I didn't go with Cobra took the gamble. No pre existing conditions for me so I was lucky. But ya I feel that pain.
And if you are a person who doesn't agree with unemployment then lower the taxes a lot first. My last pay check 33% want to taxes. So I work almost two days a week to pay taxes. Now if that was much lower I could save more and in down times wouldn't be as big of an issue
As for goolging I think it is fine. However what I wish is that any background search a company does on you they must:
a. Give you a copy of everything they find
b. Allow you to explain any of it, if it is true.
c. If they don't hire you because of something from B that is not to be true a way to be compensated from that company. The internet is full of truths and lies. You want to use it to judge me fine, but the flip side is if you judge me wrong you should have a consequence for such action.
I just googled myself and here is what I found:
1. Usenet postings of me asking for help with perl 5.0, Zope 1.0beta, and a few other linux questions back around 2001. Ok I knew about those.
2. A webpage showing I was a quality tester for the game Prey, now my name is just listed as a quality play tester, but I had no clue it was up there. Now of course I knew being a play tester my name would be in the manual which pretty much guaranteed my name on some webpage. But this was new to me as of today.
And what if he had been these play testers where horrible to work with, did a bad job (though in this case I volunteered for a friend who works for that company), etc. how would that reflect one me?
While I agree with the firing/hiting and double taxation I disagree with unemployment. My story:
...ya right.
Working for a company in the UK (only 40 people os nice and small), they partnered with a University in the states to develop software for phase 2 to 3 clinical drug trials. The University wanted someone on site to do business requirements, training, writing documentation, UAT, support and installation. I got the job. Pretty slick, own suite, at the customer site in an Academia settings 10 mins form where I lived.
So for the first year things are going ok, turns out sr. mgmt. had made lots of promises before I was hired and now the developers and I were taking flak for things we had zero control over. But still the directors of this part of the university where very impressed with me and told me so. We had a very strong working relationship.
Of course it blew up. What happened well some of my company's board of directors told the clients board of directors they were going to rewrite the contract, charge more, a few days before the contract was going to be signed. The customer was pissed. So pissed in fact that come last August the University said I could no longer continue the business requirements phase of the next project I was doing for the, (aka no talking to university employees about the project, anything else was fine). Again the customers board of directors, Scott your work is top notch, just your company's BOD has done a shitty thing, we are trying to work it out.
2 months later we get a new CEO who decides he doesn't want to enter this market and focus in on another area. So he tells the customer sorry the BOD dicked you over, we have to end this relationship, shut down the office and end of Nov. my job is done with one month of severance.
So lets recap so far I did an awesome job, personal references all the directors from one of the biggest academia reading centers for clinical drug trials, personal references from my company's BOD (though not all I wanted especially the ones that caused this shit storm), and yet for 0 fault of my own I have no job. Oh the people who caused this mess still have jobs.
So here I am trying to find a job during the holidays (ya good luck with that), well this turns into mid January no job. I finally get a job offer end of Jan. they want to know right away. I need a few more days for personal family issues, oops to bad rescinded the offer. WTF? Cause I have personal family issues you cant give me a few days? Shows I wasn't "serious"
Few more months pass, fiancé gets a job out of state I follow and now doing contract work. Have 4 months of where no money came in. Least there will be unemployment money to help me out to offset the cost.
Which is why when you do unemployment they ask you why you left your last job. If you get fired for incompetence, drug use, etc. it makes it a lot harder to get if any at all. If you are fired because you get a great job (again when you have personal references from all the directors most being very well published doctors) but your BOD fucked you over you get the money.
I'd have a nice big dent in my savings if it weren't for unemployment. Getting fired during the holidays isn't easy to find a new job everyone is on vacation. So tell me what else could I have done? Can't sure the BOD members who screwed up, can't sue the company for dicking me over, since I can't do that at least I have some assistance to fall back on.
Guess i should clarify
for me...
content = new missions, story, etc. not new guns or vehicles
Some content...
A lot of my friends have this game and no one plays it anymore because it's pretty quick to beat. And we aren't acheviement junkies....so goets old quickly
Then we will have to agree to disagree. Learning a computer is not a survival skill at all.br>
Why don't we teach everyone how to farm that is the ultimate survival skill (throw some hunting and gathering in there too). If society crumbles how many people can fend for themselves?
If you can't afford to pay rent, get food, get your needed meds, you sure as heck aren't going to waste time to learn how to operate a computer. If you have enough free time and money to do that then count your blessings.
Not all jobs require computer skills or computer tech. And if you really want to open a can of worms define computer skills. Email, word processing, installing an OS, etc, etc? Does somebody who can barely use the OS but a master of Excel less computer skilled then someone who knows all about the OS but nothing about excel and being able to manipulate and read data?
I'll have to respectfully disagree with you
Anyone may be able to learn anything. However because you can't learn everything there is to learn you have to pick and choose.
"People who choose not to learn how to use a computer when their lives would be improved through that knowledge (either in terms of employment opportunities or, seriously, basic survival skills [for example, using a publicly available computer at a town library or somesuch to research options for public assistance]) are acting in a stupid manner."
I don't equate with using a computer to survival skills. It helps a lot agreed but again some people are not in positions that they can or will learn the computer. If person A doesn't get a benefit from learning X they won't learn X and learn something else that will help them.
Now if your argument is that people who need to learn the computer don't [say for their job] refuse to do so because it's hard/scary/whatever then ya I would agree with you that those select people are being dumb.
However I believe (with no evidence what so ever and making wild guesses just based on experience with the small people I know, and of course this means nothing either) that most people have no desire to learn the computer because they would rather do other things in their life.
Duh German Poop Porn
Or perhaps...
People who are poor are trying to focus on surviving?
Or there is so much information you can only learn so much? I have a masters degree in the IT world but knowledge of house construction is nil. So am I lazy? Ok I learn about houses, then cars, boats, farming, doctor stuff, etc. Oh wait I have a life outside of work, one can only learn so much.
Or the cost/benefit of technology doesn't add up for an individual? And by cost I don't just mean cash, I mean the time, maintenance, etc. of the tech item.
OR here is a crazy idea...people have other interests then technology that fulfill there lives?
My fiancé does neuroscience research, can you talk to at the absolute lowest level of neuron functionality? You can't? You must be lazy not to have learned that.
Just my 2 cents
Agreed.
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What people fail to realize is Tech toys are WANTS not NEEDS.
The middle class is dying. Which means they are the rich and the poor and what's in between is shrinking very fast. And the poor have more to worry about then if they can read
I don't follow you at all. XP/Vista's design are bad because hitting a key called delete prompts for you to answer did you mean to delete the item(S) and if you click yes it does?
But to delete under OS X i hold command and delete and that makes more sense?
A user sees a delete key, they assume when they press it the computer will confirm they want to delete the item. THey accept/dent and the action occurs.
Again I am not 100% sure what your point is.
Ummm then a keyboard should have no keys since any key could be dangerous depending on what applications might be open.
My workaround is my keyboard plugs into my monitors USB ports, when the monitor is off so is the keyboard (and anything else plugged in). No worry about cats hittings keys or mice (and I have 2 cats).
I wonder if they have taken into consideration the age of the audience when doing stuff like this. What I mean as we get older our ability to clearly hear certain sounds diminishes. A sad fact of life.
So I wonder when they take specs like this to build systems they go well our target audience is X years old so 90% of them don't need as good of quality in the sound so we can build something still good but cheaper because we don't need to use the 80% of the time to get the final 5% of sound?