A fellow Brazilian, I take... The bad state of our roads aren't as much due to trucks, I believe, as to bad engineering, bad materials and corruption taking the money originally meant to build the damn roads.
I'm not whinning about OpenOffice being lightweight or not in relation to MS Office. An application that takes more than half a minute from click icon to ready to work, eating a couple hundred megs of RAM and maxing out an Athlon 64 3200+ CPU in the process is not lightweight by any book. Abiword is lightweight, kword is lightweight, but OpenOffice is definitely not.
Besides, you download/install once, but (depending on your job) you fire it up every so often.
This may be anedoctal evidence, but I got my Broadcom WiFi card on my AMD64 Pavilion zv5200 laptop quite easily (without WPA, though) as follows:
/sbin/modprobe ndiswrapper # (I had previously installed the Windows driver for the card) /sbin/iwconfig wlan0 essid myessid key CAFEBABE /sbin/dhcpcd wlan0
The key is for WEP, notoriously insecure, but... it works. I'm using Gentoo here, and the Gentooese for setting this up is quite simple. Just put the following on/etc/conf.d/net:
essid_wlan0="myessid" key_myessid="CAFEBABE" con fig_myessid=("dhcp")
and I'm happily WiFiing away. I've tried to get WPA working with the card, but no luck so far. wpa supplicant is obscure at best, and with the variety of schemes and keys and certificates and algorithms and protocols and whatnot, and having to know what each means, I'm still lost.
For instance, what should we say when the non-free Invidious video driver, the non-free Prophecy database, or the non-free Indonesia language interpreter and libraries, is released in a version that runs on GNU/Linux? Should we thank the developers for this "support" for our system, or should we regard this non-free program like any other--as an attractive nuisance, a temptation to accept bondage, a problem to be solved?
Why don't these researchers go after the mechanisms that leads to liver diseases and exactly what substances in tea/coffe prevent those diseases? Coffee-drinkers tend to be smokers also, or stay up longer, or have more regular schedules, whatever (not that any of these things are necessarily true, I'm just trying to make a point here). Why is it necessarily coffee or tea that helps prevent liver diseases? How exactly do these beverages prevent liver diseases? What chemical reactions take place with (or are prevented by) those drinks?
In other news, researchers confirmed: water causes cancer. In 2004, 100% of all people who died of cancer drank water daily since early childhood.
The problem is not criticism per se, it is his offensive choice of words. I take it rather personnaly when someone refers to the members of my community (myself included) as "Linux freaks". He doesn't like it? He is free to appoint errors, to criticize, whatever. He is free even to insult me and my community, but he can't expect to do that without taking some heat.
More insightful than funny IMHO. No one is telling this fucktard to use OSS at gunpoint. He is free to drop his money on Microsoft crap, or Apple crap, or whathever the proprietary fuck other corporations have to offer.
We sit here, discussing about how to make an alien world suitable for our own needs, as if it belonged to us or something like that. How would we feel if we found out that, a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, a bunch of hairy little green men, looking at this blue grain of dust traveling around a smallish nondescript star, discussed and moved to "tatooineform" it, ignorant or oblivious to our presence?
I feel very uncomfortable talking about (possibly) someone else's world like this. It seems as if we were talking about taking posession of a seemingly abandoned house.
Sweet that! A note in the Gentoo forums would be appropriate, as there are many many people there suffering with emerge's slowness, oblivious to eix. Thank you for that.
I don't know when you last took a look at Gentoo, I'm staring at a Gentoo on my AMD64 laptop right now.
but recent changes have sped up package selection and descriptions have always been available. A new query tool, equery, can list all the build options for a package and is also improving with each release.
I tried that too, but still slow. I have no idea why, whether it's because of Python, or because it has to search more than a hundred thousand little files, or because of some design/implementation mistake, whatever. The thing is that FreeBSD's ports, with a ports tree of size comparable to Gentoo's portage and nothing fancier than a couple of clever makefiles and an utility to sync the tree (syncing per se is not the problem with Gentoo; rsync is just fine) is much faster.
At most, the "slowness" of Gentoo's portage system wastes only a couple seconds of my time each day, and who of us isn't multitasking anyway when we are updating stuff. As far as I'm concerned, Gentoo is about as close to perfect as you can get between automated updates and total control over a Linux system.
You don't seem to care about software bloat, and I hate that. It's unbearable to think that my fancy new multi-gigahertz processor coupled with a gig of ram performs as fast as a glorious 386-25 with 8 megs of ram. Portage takes MINUTES to find a list of package if I tell it to search by description. Wasn't running FAST one of the biggest selling points of Gentoo?
I don't much care about Gentoo, but I'm dying to try portage (being a fan of FreeBSD ports).
Don't bother. Gentoo's portage is based on a bunch of python scripts. They are hugely inefficient, desperatingly slow. If you come from FreeBSD, you'll miss the snappiness of make search and portupgrade & Co. Besides, I still find the portage tree (roughly equivalent to BSD's ports tree) quite badly arranged (not that you'll find many useful things there, like short descriptions of packages or well-documented build parameters).
I'm still looking for a distro with a Linux kernel and a BSD userspace (more specifically the ports tree). Gentoo just doesn't cut it.
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You wouldn't want to run your computer on VIA chipset, would you?
No, of course not, but I would want to run it on a nForce chipset.
When pigs:
a) turn green
b) sprout wings and fly
A fellow Brazilian, I take... The bad state of our roads aren't as much due to trucks, I believe, as to bad engineering, bad materials and corruption taking the money originally meant to build the damn roads.
In NASA Linux is only for desktops!
I'm not whinning about OpenOffice being lightweight or not in relation to MS Office. An application that takes more than half a minute from click icon to ready to work, eating a couple hundred megs of RAM and maxing out an Athlon 64 3200+ CPU in the process is not lightweight by any book. Abiword is lightweight, kword is lightweight, but OpenOffice is definitely not.
Besides, you download/install once, but (depending on your job) you fire it up every so often.
I believe I read "lightweight" referring to OpenOffice... oooh the hangover
With ndiswrapper, yes it is, as long as you don't need WPA (which I found a bitch to configure on my HP laptop; without WPA, it is dead easy)
From your third link:
:D
For instance, what should we say when the non-free Invidious video driver, the non-free Prophecy database, or the non-free Indonesia language interpreter and libraries, is released in a version that runs on GNU/Linux? Should we thank the developers for this "support" for our system, or should we regard this non-free program like any other--as an attractive nuisance, a temptation to accept bondage, a problem to be solved?
Gotta love Saint Ignucius
*shudders*
more recent web browsing technologies such as Apple's Safari or... Fir... Firef... Firefly... Fireox... Firexof...
Actually, I have a GF as well (12 years today IIRC)
You better RC, lest the world crumbles and falls upon your insensitive, un-loving head!
Why don't these researchers go after the mechanisms that leads to liver diseases and exactly what substances in tea/coffe prevent those diseases? Coffee-drinkers tend to be smokers also, or stay up longer, or have more regular schedules, whatever (not that any of these things are necessarily true, I'm just trying to make a point here). Why is it necessarily coffee or tea that helps prevent liver diseases? How exactly do these beverages prevent liver diseases? What chemical reactions take place with (or are prevented by) those drinks?
In other news, researchers confirmed: water causes cancer. In 2004, 100% of all people who died of cancer drank water daily since early childhood.
Of course. Number Theory gods looked at that and said in a portentous voice:
All your base are belong to us.
Superpopulated Hiroxima is?
The problem is not criticism per se, it is his offensive choice of words. I take it rather personnaly when someone refers to the members of my community (myself included) as "Linux freaks". He doesn't like it? He is free to appoint errors, to criticize, whatever. He is free even to insult me and my community, but he can't expect to do that without taking some heat.
More insightful than funny IMHO. No one is telling this fucktard to use OSS at gunpoint. He is free to drop his money on Microsoft crap, or Apple crap, or whathever the proprietary fuck other corporations have to offer.
We sit here, discussing about how to make an alien world suitable for our own needs, as if it belonged to us or something like that. How would we feel if we found out that, a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, a bunch of hairy little green men, looking at this blue grain of dust traveling around a smallish nondescript star, discussed and moved to "tatooineform" it, ignorant or oblivious to our presence?
I feel very uncomfortable talking about (possibly) someone else's world like this. It seems as if we were talking about taking posession of a seemingly abandoned house.
I hope, I *really* hope that KDE4 won't bring the same dumbing down as GNOME 2.x did in the name of "usability".
As a vim user, I say Emacs stands for Esc Meta Alt Control Shift.
Sweet that! A note in the Gentoo forums would be appropriate, as there are many many people there suffering with emerge's slowness, oblivious to eix. Thank you for that.
I don't know when you last took a look at Gentoo,
I'm staring at a Gentoo on my AMD64 laptop right now.
but recent changes have sped up package selection and descriptions have always been available. A new query tool, equery, can list all the build options for a package and is also improving with each release.
I tried that too, but still slow. I have no idea why, whether it's because of Python, or because it has to search more than a hundred thousand little files, or because of some design/implementation mistake, whatever. The thing is that FreeBSD's ports, with a ports tree of size comparable to Gentoo's portage and nothing fancier than a couple of clever makefiles and an utility to sync the tree (syncing per se is not the problem with Gentoo; rsync is just fine) is much faster.
At most, the "slowness" of Gentoo's portage system wastes only a couple seconds of my time each day, and who of us isn't multitasking anyway when we are updating stuff. As far as I'm concerned, Gentoo is about as close to perfect as you can get between automated updates and total control over a Linux system.
You don't seem to care about software bloat, and I hate that. It's unbearable to think that my fancy new multi-gigahertz processor coupled with a gig of ram performs as fast as a glorious 386-25 with 8 megs of ram. Portage takes MINUTES to find a list of package if I tell it to search by description. Wasn't running FAST one of the biggest selling points of Gentoo?
Bah, I think I'm getting old.
Thanks for the tip, I'll look into that.
I don't much care about Gentoo, but I'm dying to try portage (being a fan of FreeBSD ports).
Don't bother. Gentoo's portage is based on a bunch of python scripts. They are hugely inefficient, desperatingly slow. If you come from FreeBSD, you'll miss the snappiness of make search and portupgrade & Co. Besides, I still find the portage tree (roughly equivalent to BSD's ports tree) quite badly arranged (not that you'll find many useful things there, like short descriptions of packages or well-documented build parameters).
I'm still looking for a distro with a Linux kernel and a BSD userspace (more specifically the ports tree). Gentoo just doesn't cut it.
You owe me a new shirt!