So what? Are we already at the point in the U.S. where research must yield a product and quickly or its considered "liburul" and meaningless?
I guess I don't want to know the answer to that.
It seems we're already at a point with research where 1) it has to be a money maker and quick or 2) some rich dude can put his name on it or claim they did it in some monomaniacal way.
If this were to happen in Japan, they'd have 90% or more that would have paid. They are a society that loves rules and order and (to an extent) they still believe in personal honor.
The vast majority of corporate donations go to Republicans. Not to say that the Democrats are entirely clean; but when somebody submits a bill that curbs corporate power, just watch which party screams the loudest. It's not the Democrats.
I've been talking a lot about this with my family lately... the culture in the U.S. is so screwed up right now that people almost always get punished for doing what is morally and ethically right while people that ignore those rules almost always get rewarded. Let's face it, knowing that you "did the right thing" doesn't put food on the table or assure a decent retirement... at least not in our age. It certainly doesn't make a corporate loyal to you if you live in the corporate world.
Japan has such a successful corporate culture and they aren't like this at all. The CEO gets on his knees and begs forgiveness if he has to do something like lay off workers that have devoted their working lives to the organization. In the use this is done with no remorse and at the blink of an eye. The U.S. has lost all sense of right and wrong and sacrificed it on the altar of a corporate god.
While there are plenty of stupid people out there, not everyone is. The smartest are moving away from these careers in droves because of these outsourcing issues. The final result of outsourcing in the messed-up corporate mind is that *everyone* will become a manager and that's the only job that holds any worth and it is the only job worth doing. It's also the only job, therefore, that deserves a living wage. If we stubbornly follow this as a country then we're is MASSIVE trouble.
When I was younger I worked as a tech in a major metro newspaper.
Reporters seem to have a overblown sense of self worth. They can't be bothered to go down the hall and talk to lowly "technical" people to find out if what they are saying even makes sense. This seems to happen with reporters at every level. They go on air regularly and make asses of themselves because they are sure they know everything.
You can complain to the paper, but it will just go to a jackass editor that even has a MORE overblown sense of self-worth.
Problem is the dumbasses we put in government are a lot more likely to listen to windbags like Murdock as opposed to someone that really has a level head in the situation.
If you could take a copy of the Ferrari without degrading the original copy I would say that is *not* stealing. It might be something else illegal, but its not stealing. That's why it is such an unfair word for the *AAs to use.
I think there are always going to be a lot of people that steal because they can.
Winnona Rider? Lindsay Lohan? Did either one HAVE to steal anything?
The problem is that RIAA logic counts these people as "lost revenue" when they were never going to get their money to begin with. Where they are ACTUALLY losing money is with the people that are willing to pay but where it out prices what they are willing to pay. That is supply/demand economics.
There are people that will NEVER pay and there are people will ALWAYS pay.
Crow: Joel, I hate movies where the men wear shorter skirts than the women. Tom: Yeah, I can just imagine a scene from Ancient Greece: "Oh, hi, Hercules, have a seat!! Noooo!!!" Joel: You are so right my little itty buddies. That's why we've put together a presentation. It's a little thing we like to call: PANTS! Tom: (singing) Pants Crow: Pants! Bots: Sing the praises of pants! Joel: Nothing better shows my taste, than what I wear below my waist! Tom: Say! Pants! Hoo hoo! Crow: Pants! Bots: Sing the praises of pants! Tom: They help me suck in my gut They always cover up my butt! Huh? Pants! Crow: Pants! All: Sing the praises of pants! Crow: Wear them and you're a cool guy, as long as you zip up your fly! Tom: Zip! Pants! Crow: Pants! Bots: Sing the praises of pants! Joel: (spoken) That's right ladies and gentlemen! Consider the PANT! You know, the Pants Association urges you to wear your pants at least three times a day! Crow: The great men of our time have all worn pants! Roosevelt! Churchill! DeGualle! Ghandi!--Well, almost all of them! Tom: Dolphins! One of the smartest mammals on earth. Do they wear pants? NO! But they wish they did! That's how smart they are! Joel: What keeps our legs all warm and hot? All: Pants! Crow: What prevents a buffalo shot? All: Pants! Tom: What do they got that I ain't got? All: Pants! Tom: Well, you can say that again Huh? [Deep 13] Frank: (singing and marching) Pants! Pants! Yang dang dang dang da Pants! Dang'a dang dang uh ha..ha ? (Dr. F. walks up behind him and quickly picks up his microphone) DEEP HURTING! DEEP HURTING!
This is why my slant is currently slightly towards the Democrats.
They aren't using the "big lie" strategy... at least not right now. The Republicans are currently in a mode (and have been for 10 years) where they repeat falsehoods over and over and claim ignorance. However I am pretty sure the Democrats, as much as they would prefer to keep falsehoods out of the debate and keep it factual, are going to have to deploy the same strategy just to keep up.
Even though I personally think the Republican party is worse there is little integrity from any political party right now. They are for openness until it runs against their own interests then they are against it. They want cuts until it hurts their re-election in their district. They will take any side they are paid to take. Our system has totally broken down and is beginning to resemble the systems that people in the middle east are currently protesting about. It's very sad... the whole thing is going to hell.
Most of the *good* academics that I have known would probably have no problems in contributing to such a project... as long as their work isn't nitpicked and second guessed by idiots. That why they and so many other people that know their subject won't participate. Who can blame them...
I don't see how it can be done at all in wikipedia's current state. You'd need something like protected edits or two separate pages for each subject. It basically throws the idea behind wikipedia into the toilet. It probably would be a good idea if wikipedia's house is in order, but the latest fiascos show that the whole thing is out of control and is being hijacked by some losers with inflated egos that go on campaigns against people. I personally can't even make an edit on a talk page without some self-important ass being rude to me. No academic who has spent years studying their subject is going to put up with that.
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more and more of these are going to go away, methinks.
anything that can be unscrewed will be sold for quick cash.
Look what local governments are doing... selling off the infrastructure for fast bucks.
So what? Are we already at the point in the U.S. where research must yield a product and quickly or its considered "liburul" and meaningless?
I guess I don't want to know the answer to that.
It seems we're already at a point with research where 1) it has to be a money maker and quick or 2) some rich dude can put his name on it or claim they did it in some monomaniacal way.
If this were to happen in Japan, they'd have 90% or more that would have paid. They are a society that loves rules and order and (to an extent) they still believe in personal honor.
The vast majority of corporate donations go to Republicans. Not to say that the Democrats are entirely clean; but when somebody submits a bill that curbs corporate power, just watch which party screams the loudest. It's not the Democrats.
I've been talking a lot about this with my family lately... the culture in the U.S. is so screwed up right now that people almost always get punished for doing what is morally and ethically right while people that ignore those rules almost always get rewarded. Let's face it, knowing that you "did the right thing" doesn't put food on the table or assure a decent retirement... at least not in our age. It certainly doesn't make a corporate loyal to you if you live in the corporate world.
Japan has such a successful corporate culture and they aren't like this at all. The CEO gets on his knees and begs forgiveness if he has to do something like lay off workers that have devoted their working lives to the organization. In the use this is done with no remorse and at the blink of an eye. The U.S. has lost all sense of right and wrong and sacrificed it on the altar of a corporate god.
While there are plenty of stupid people out there, not everyone is. The smartest are moving away from these careers in droves because of these outsourcing issues. The final result of outsourcing in the messed-up corporate mind is that *everyone* will become a manager and that's the only job that holds any worth and it is the only job worth doing. It's also the only job, therefore, that deserves a living wage. If we stubbornly follow this as a country then we're is MASSIVE trouble.
When I was younger I worked as a tech in a major metro newspaper.
Reporters seem to have a overblown sense of self worth. They can't be bothered to go down the hall and talk to lowly "technical" people to find out if what they are saying even makes sense. This seems to happen with reporters at every level. They go on air regularly and make asses of themselves because they are sure they know everything.
You can complain to the paper, but it will just go to a jackass editor that even has a MORE overblown sense of self-worth.
We don't have reasoned debate in public sphere... not at this point in history.
The human race is on an anti-rationalistic downturn. Public "debate" is simply invective and fact is routinely ignored. Twitter simply reflects this.
..at least not in the U.S.
To have some sort of rational debate on twitter you have to have rational debate [full stop].
We don't have rational debate at all in the U.S. right now. It's simply one logical fallacy after another which we call debate.
Until we grow up enough to get past our anti-rationalist phase Tim's comment is rather moot.
-1 Troll.
Problem is the dumbasses we put in government are a lot more likely to listen to windbags like Murdock as opposed to someone that really has a level head in the situation.
Be sure to get off my lawn!
...or pictures of Samantha Fox in her prime.
Same results. BAN PAGE 3! You could have a heart attack.
Idiocy in its purest form.
so would an ASSHOLE tax. You'd have to take a 2nd job.
If you could take a copy of the Ferrari without degrading the original copy I would say that is *not* stealing. It might be something else illegal, but its not stealing. That's why it is such an unfair word for the *AAs to use.
I think there are always going to be a lot of people that steal because they can.
Winnona Rider? Lindsay Lohan? Did either one HAVE to steal anything?
The problem is that RIAA logic counts these people as "lost revenue" when they were never going to get their money to begin with. Where they are ACTUALLY losing money is with the people that are willing to pay but where it out prices what they are willing to pay. That is supply/demand economics.
There are people that will NEVER pay and there are people will ALWAYS pay.
Crow: Joel, I hate movies where the men wear shorter skirts than the women.
Tom: Yeah, I can just imagine a scene from Ancient Greece: "Oh, hi, Hercules, have a seat!! Noooo!!!"
Joel: You are so right my little itty buddies. That's why we've put together a presentation. It's a little thing we like to call: PANTS!
Tom: (singing) Pants
Crow: Pants!
Bots: Sing the praises of pants!
Joel: Nothing better shows my taste, than what I wear below my waist!
Tom: Say! Pants! Hoo hoo!
Crow: Pants!
Bots: Sing the praises of pants!
Tom: They help me suck in my gut They always cover up my butt! Huh? Pants!
Crow: Pants!
All: Sing the praises of pants!
Crow: Wear them and you're a cool guy, as long as you zip up your fly!
Tom: Zip! Pants!
Crow: Pants!
Bots: Sing the praises of pants!
Joel: (spoken) That's right ladies and gentlemen! Consider the PANT! You know, the Pants Association urges you to wear your pants at least three times a day!
Crow: The great men of our time have all worn pants! Roosevelt! Churchill! DeGualle! Ghandi!--Well, almost all of them!
Tom: Dolphins! One of the smartest mammals on earth. Do they wear pants? NO! But they wish they did! That's how smart they are!
Joel: What keeps our legs all warm and hot?
All: Pants!
Crow: What prevents a buffalo shot?
All: Pants!
Tom: What do they got that I ain't got?
All: Pants!
Tom: Well, you can say that again Huh?
[Deep 13]
Frank: (singing and marching) Pants! Pants! Yang dang dang dang da Pants! Dang'a dang dang uh ha..ha ? (Dr. F. walks up behind him and quickly picks up his microphone) DEEP HURTING! DEEP HURTING!
This is why my slant is currently slightly towards the Democrats.
They aren't using the "big lie" strategy... at least not right now. The Republicans are currently in a mode (and have been for 10 years) where they repeat falsehoods over and over and claim ignorance. However I am pretty sure the Democrats, as much as they would prefer to keep falsehoods out of the debate and keep it factual, are going to have to deploy the same strategy just to keep up.
Having 7 kids without the way to pay for them is living outside of your means.
Isn't that what the GOP hates so much? Why is it so righteous to have so many kids? It's not. It's as bad as the welfare mom that has a Cadillac.
Even though I personally think the Republican party is worse there is little integrity from any political party right now. They are for openness until it runs against their own interests then they are against it. They want cuts until it hurts their re-election in their district. They will take any side they are paid to take. Our system has totally broken down and is beginning to resemble the systems that people in the middle east are currently protesting about. It's very sad... the whole thing is going to hell.
And me without mod points AGAIN...
This is stupid in light of the fact that Facebook is openly hostile to idea of user privacy and Google actually seems to care, at least a little bit.
Most of the *good* academics that I have known would probably have no problems in contributing to such a project... as long as their work isn't nitpicked and second guessed by idiots. That why they and so many other people that know their subject won't participate. Who can blame them...
I don't see how it can be done at all in wikipedia's current state. You'd need something like protected edits or two separate pages for each subject. It basically throws the idea behind wikipedia into the toilet. It probably would be a good idea if wikipedia's house is in order, but the latest fiascos show that the whole thing is out of control and is being hijacked by some losers with inflated egos that go on campaigns against people. I personally can't even make an edit on a talk page without some self-important ass being rude to me. No academic who has spent years studying their subject is going to put up with that.