Both were pushing different approaches to such problems. I never was trying to say Netscape was the superior browser, but the problem with two sides pushing their non-standards the side that is chosen would have the better rendering browser. Early DHTML and CSS that Microsoft did pioneer was not really implemented in its own development tools. And during the browser war period, site designers were resistant to use Javascript. I avoided it until Google started releasing the Google Suggestions feature and Google Maps (after the browser wars) mostly because we couldn't trust enough people would be able to support the Javascript, so I had it limited to basic data validation. However if Netscape won, I expect we would be using more layers and special tags vs javascripts and css. But I expect the sites would look and work closely as they are now.
I am reminded of the NetBook fad a decade ago. Cheap Low End laptops used mostly for low end users. Microsoft didn't have too much luck in that field, as most Netbook users gravitated towards Linux.
I don't see Chromebooks (which are Netbooks under a different name) getting big in MS territory. If you want windows, chances are you will be wanting to do some gaming, and you need more horse power.
That is great, there is already a good collection of some rather powerful text editors you can use. For some other jobs a Word Processor is a better tool.
Oddly enough people who are good at the command line interfaces can be extremely efficient in getting their work done. However it also makes them very resistant to changes, a small update to the command line parameters could in essence put such people into a productivity stand still. The GUI Office tools are less efficient for the expert then a command line expert. However small changes are easier to adapt to.
I had a server that needed Office 97. This server has been upgraded time and time again, running Office in 2017 I was amazed on how fast that loaded I clicked on the icon and the app was running awaiting my input.
However I had this server so protected and locked down because of that. Because Office 97 is a security nightmare. In essence it came out before people knew how to take advantage of buffer overflows, and macros were enabled by default. Over time a good portion of Office is just security features, and the move to.NET components probably slowed it down too.
I found that the normal YouTube App has crippled itself for You Tube Red only features, such as playing audio while the App is in the background, and makes a point to nag you about it all the time.
Well keep in mind, the new phones now have 4k screens, on them, so just for the fancy logo in the corner for it to download it would take megs. Then we have JQuery and Angular js libaries on most sights that get downloaded. Pictures and videos will often stream even before you see them. We have all these ads that send back and forth your personal data.
But compared to the G3 Phones and today the biggest thing is the amount of video watched.
I was told to stop listening to the Rightwing media, Only people with agenda are conservatives who want to impose their ancient ideas on free Americans who want to grow.
I use to do some consulting work for a company that made one type of product, their business was cyclical so they rented their workforce and machinery to an other company that made a different product all together. This company was still known for their product that they sold, but made a lot of money renting its services to others companies that had a different cycle.
I think Microsoft WINE would run much better. A lot of the problems with WINE is the fact there is a lot of components that are hacked to mimic what windows does. If it had full MS support, these wouldn't be hacks but components straight from the specifications.
I like Linux and Unix systems and they are my preference when I can use them. However with Windows being turned to a *nix OS like OSX we will no longer have much diversity in Operating Systems, they will all be Unix or Unix Like OS's. 20 years ago, We had Windows, *Nix, VMS, MacOS... A slew of OS's all with their own advantages and disadvantages. Going to one Style OS we are loosing options.
Back in the late 1990's Microsoft won the browser war against Netscape. However they had failed to reach the objective of such war. Microsoft never really liked the World Wide Web. With Windows 95 it came with rather limited IE browser (in essence a tool to download Netscape) but at the time they really didn't care much, because they were pushing MSN service to compete against AOL. These services at the time were less an ISP but a large multi-node BBS with graphics. That was the direction they wanted to go. The internet and WWW was just for academic and those looser who had those Unix based servers.
However the Web Grew in popularity, and Netscape was getting big, and showing a future of an OS independent system, where the browser was king. This future was a threat to Microsoft, however it seemed inevitable. So Microsoft started the browser war by beefing up IE to compete with Netscape (Which was a bold move at the time, as most applications that come with the OS were just small tools that just barely get the job done, eg. notepad, wordpad, calc, paint ). Now Microsoft is on its EEE strategy. Embrace the Web, Extend it with its own custom html commands and http protocol changes, then being able to kill it, because what everyone is using is so far from the normal web, there isn't any point to it anymore.
With Windows 98 and the embedded full feature browser. It fully Embraced the web, and basically killed Netscape. Then they were in the process of Extending, with some ideas that are still common such as CSS, and others that are just a bad idea such as Active X, and Sliverlight. However Microsoft got stuck on IE 6 for way too long, and the Active X became a security nightmare. Microsoft extensions made people to not trust Microsoft, as their systems were getting hacked, often working around firewalls and all the other best practices at the time, because a trusted sight may had a less then trustful advertiser which would run applications on your PC.
This security problem brought in a new lightweight browser called Firefox. Which supported the standards much better then IE, was faster and didn't use the stuff that allowed people to break into the computer. Then Firefox grew where it started to be too big, that is where Google Chrome came in (at around the same time Safari came in for Apple also based on WebKit)
Now the growth of the WebKit based browsers, now meant for browsing the Web, it really doesn't matter if you are using Linux, Windows, MacOS or even some of the lesser known OS's such as the BSD's. And Netscapes vision of nearly all your applications being web based is nearly true today. Now Microsoft is having to fight to keep its market share, and having to deal with mobile devices with Apple and Google based OS's. Microsoft is still going strong, but they had to change their business model a lot.
So they had won the browser war but failed the objective. Now with them trying to put effort into a rendering engine is just wasting resources. Going to a WebKit chromium browser will probably just let them focus more on what they really want to focus on and less on trying to get a better HTML5 support score.
I think Netflix/Hulu/Amazon Prime/YouTube had already opened that door. Besides with current video/audio compression methods, and how we get faster bandwidth, with home users exceed 100mbs streaming video isn't that big of an issue anymore. Even with 4k.
Well it is more innovative then most companies, who just blatantly copy the older technology warts and all. There is an innovative nature to this refinement that Apple is good at. We will normally get use to the problems with technology and quickly fail to see its problems. Think of the "QWERTY" keyboard. How many people actually use the DVORAK keyboard or the other alternate methods? It isn't that QWERTY is better (it was designed to slow down the typist, to prevent jamming) but because we all use it, and know it it has became standard. And switching to a different style will just hinder us for a long time until we get use to it. Now even Apple isn't going to try to change the keyboard layout (for now), but there are a lot of smaller changes that apple does for things that are just annoying.
I am not sure how many people remember trying to connect to Wi-Fi back in 2002, burning a CD back in the 1990's, or trying to connect to dial up with windows 3.1 or early version of Slackware.
I could say I remembered a time when Slashdot didn't get fixed into details of semantics. However that was never the case. 2^128 would be enough for every atom on earth to get an address. So in essence it is more then we could ever conceive of using. In terms of practicality the supply of address is so high, we can treat it like infinity
Wait a minute. I though the NSA and CIA were run by the Conservative agenda, to block free speech of left of center ideas, making sure the people who are in power keep it there without disruptive influences from these "Others"
Not ignoring evidence. Just disagreeing with the assertion that the major facet is psychological while they are evidence of social pressures.
You could just put your head in the sand, and blame the "Other" for the problems, or stand up an realize problems are far more complex and may need effort done by all.
I am not stating there is no value in formal college Education. However such values are not taught skills, but your own ability to use other unrelated skills to help enhance your career.
Despite my dyslexia which often makes expressing my ideas in words difficult for me. I actually have a Masters Degree in Business Administration, Bachelors in Science in Computer Science, Minors in Mathematics and Music. I find my Music Minor to be secrete weapon at work, Jazz training has made me comfortable with being to think on the fly, find patterns in seemingly chaos.
Apple is rarely on the leading edge of technology. Their business model is to take existing tech and refine it. They will let other companies to make all the mistakes first and then build it again while trying to clear out many of the mistakes.
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Both were pushing different approaches to such problems. I never was trying to say Netscape was the superior browser, but the problem with two sides pushing their non-standards the side that is chosen would have the better rendering browser. Early DHTML and CSS that Microsoft did pioneer was not really implemented in its own development tools. And during the browser war period, site designers were resistant to use Javascript. I avoided it until Google started releasing the Google Suggestions feature and Google Maps (after the browser wars) mostly because we couldn't trust enough people would be able to support the Javascript, so I had it limited to basic data validation.
However if Netscape won, I expect we would be using more layers and special tags vs javascripts and css. But I expect the sites would look and work closely as they are now.
I am reminded of the NetBook fad a decade ago. Cheap Low End laptops used mostly for low end users. Microsoft didn't have too much luck in that field, as most Netbook users gravitated towards Linux.
I don't see Chromebooks (which are Netbooks under a different name) getting big in MS territory. If you want windows, chances are you will be wanting to do some gaming, and you need more horse power.
How far we have fallen. In a sight full of hard core Unix users, you seem to be the only one using LaTex how far have we fallen.
That is great, there is already a good collection of some rather powerful text editors you can use.
For some other jobs a Word Processor is a better tool.
Oddly enough people who are good at the command line interfaces can be extremely efficient in getting their work done. However it also makes them very resistant to changes, a small update to the command line parameters could in essence put such people into a productivity stand still.
The GUI Office tools are less efficient for the expert then a command line expert. However small changes are easier to adapt to.
I had a server that needed Office 97. This server has been upgraded time and time again, running Office in 2017 I was amazed on how fast that loaded I clicked on the icon and the app was running awaiting my input.
However I had this server so protected and locked down because of that. Because Office 97 is a security nightmare. In essence it came out before people knew how to take advantage of buffer overflows, and macros were enabled by default. Over time a good portion of Office is just security features, and the move to .NET components probably slowed it down too.
That is the big problem with Google, they will often do these grand reveled, but not follow thru.
I found that the normal YouTube App has crippled itself for You Tube Red only features, such as playing audio while the App is in the background, and makes a point to nag you about it all the time.
Any number > 0 is significant.
Just like Apple Fan Boys they are Google Fans who will buy anything Google.
Well keep in mind, the new phones now have 4k screens, on them, so just for the fancy logo in the corner for it to download it would take megs. Then we have JQuery and Angular js libaries on most sights that get downloaded. Pictures and videos will often stream even before you see them. We have all these ads that send back and forth your personal data.
But compared to the G3 Phones and today the biggest thing is the amount of video watched.
I was told to stop listening to the Rightwing media, Only people with agenda are conservatives who want to impose their ancient ideas on free Americans who want to grow.
I use to do some consulting work for a company that made one type of product, their business was cyclical so they rented their workforce and machinery to an other company that made a different product all together. This company was still known for their product that they sold, but made a lot of money renting its services to others companies that had a different cycle.
I think Microsoft WINE would run much better. A lot of the problems with WINE is the fact there is a lot of components that are hacked to mimic what windows does.
If it had full MS support, these wouldn't be hacks but components straight from the specifications.
The KDE Project was mainly designed for a UI experience for *nix systems.
I like Linux and Unix systems and they are my preference when I can use them. However with Windows being turned to a *nix OS like OSX we will no longer have much diversity in Operating Systems, they will all be Unix or Unix Like OS's.
20 years ago, We had Windows, *Nix, VMS, MacOS...
A slew of OS's all with their own advantages and disadvantages. Going to one Style OS we are loosing options.
Back in the late 1990's Microsoft won the browser war against Netscape. However they had failed to reach the objective of such war.
Microsoft never really liked the World Wide Web. With Windows 95 it came with rather limited IE browser (in essence a tool to download Netscape) but at the time they really didn't care much, because they were pushing MSN service to compete against AOL. These services at the time were less an ISP but a large multi-node BBS with graphics. That was the direction they wanted to go. The internet and WWW was just for academic and those looser who had those Unix based servers.
However the Web Grew in popularity, and Netscape was getting big, and showing a future of an OS independent system, where the browser was king. This future was a threat to Microsoft, however it seemed inevitable. So Microsoft started the browser war by beefing up IE to compete with Netscape (Which was a bold move at the time, as most applications that come with the OS were just small tools that just barely get the job done, eg. notepad, wordpad, calc, paint ). Now Microsoft is on its EEE strategy. Embrace the Web, Extend it with its own custom html commands and http protocol changes, then being able to kill it, because what everyone is using is so far from the normal web, there isn't any point to it anymore.
With Windows 98 and the embedded full feature browser. It fully Embraced the web, and basically killed Netscape. Then they were in the process of Extending, with some ideas that are still common such as CSS, and others that are just a bad idea such as Active X, and Sliverlight. However Microsoft got stuck on IE 6 for way too long, and the Active X became a security nightmare. Microsoft extensions made people to not trust Microsoft, as their systems were getting hacked, often working around firewalls and all the other best practices at the time, because a trusted sight may had a less then trustful advertiser which would run applications on your PC.
This security problem brought in a new lightweight browser called Firefox. Which supported the standards much better then IE, was faster and didn't use the stuff that allowed people to break into the computer. Then Firefox grew where it started to be too big, that is where Google Chrome came in (at around the same time Safari came in for Apple also based on WebKit)
Now the growth of the WebKit based browsers, now meant for browsing the Web, it really doesn't matter if you are using Linux, Windows, MacOS or even some of the lesser known OS's such as the BSD's. And Netscapes vision of nearly all your applications being web based is nearly true today. Now Microsoft is having to fight to keep its market share, and having to deal with mobile devices with Apple and Google based OS's. Microsoft is still going strong, but they had to change their business model a lot.
So they had won the browser war but failed the objective. Now with them trying to put effort into a rendering engine is just wasting resources. Going to a WebKit chromium browser will probably just let them focus more on what they really want to focus on and less on trying to get a better HTML5 support score.
Compared to those conservative universities, who are still trying to disprove man made global warming, evolution, and the negative effects of tobacco.
I think Netflix/Hulu/Amazon Prime/YouTube had already opened that door. Besides with current video/audio compression methods, and how we get faster bandwidth, with home users exceed 100mbs streaming video isn't that big of an issue anymore. Even with 4k.
Well it is more innovative then most companies, who just blatantly copy the older technology warts and all. There is an innovative nature to this refinement that Apple is good at. We will normally get use to the problems with technology and quickly fail to see its problems. Think of the "QWERTY" keyboard. How many people actually use the DVORAK keyboard or the other alternate methods? It isn't that QWERTY is better (it was designed to slow down the typist, to prevent jamming) but because we all use it, and know it it has became standard. And switching to a different style will just hinder us for a long time until we get use to it.
Now even Apple isn't going to try to change the keyboard layout (for now), but there are a lot of smaller changes that apple does for things that are just annoying.
I am not sure how many people remember trying to connect to Wi-Fi back in 2002, burning a CD back in the 1990's, or trying to connect to dial up with windows 3.1 or early version of Slackware.
I could say I remembered a time when Slashdot didn't get fixed into details of semantics. However that was never the case.
2^128 would be enough for every atom on earth to get an address. So in essence it is more then we could ever conceive of using. In terms of practicality the supply of address is so high, we can treat it like infinity
Wait a minute. I though the NSA and CIA were run by the Conservative agenda, to block free speech of left of center ideas, making sure the people who are in power keep it there without disruptive influences from these "Others"
Not ignoring evidence. Just disagreeing with the assertion that the major facet is psychological while they are evidence of social pressures.
You could just put your head in the sand, and blame the "Other" for the problems, or stand up an realize problems are far more complex and may need effort done by all.
Yes, I do suffer from dyslexia.
I am not stating there is no value in formal college Education. However such values are not taught skills, but your own ability to use other unrelated skills to help enhance your career.
Despite my dyslexia which often makes expressing my ideas in words difficult for me. I actually have a Masters Degree in Business Administration, Bachelors in Science in Computer Science, Minors in Mathematics and Music. I find my Music Minor to be secrete weapon at work, Jazz training has made me comfortable with being to think on the fly, find patterns in seemingly chaos.
Well this is Slashdot, we need a reason to rage against Apple for something.
Apple is rarely on the leading edge of technology. Their business model is to take existing tech and refine it. They will let other companies to make all the mistakes first and then build it again while trying to clear out many of the mistakes.